it's too fucking huge for what it can do, has shit radar and if you are talking about the 27 variant specifically can't even launch soviet fox3 missiles, stuck with just fox1s and fox2s
in BVR it's target practice for amraams and there is not going to be a chance for it to engage at fox2 distance
but it looks fucking cool and that's all that matters
A bad idea, it was supossed to be the Russian F-15 but can't have medium-range missiles on a time where fights closer than ten clicks just weren't gonna happen unless it was an extreme case (like those Israelis who got from their base and slammed four syrians while they were being bombed).
Probably a killer dog fighter. Too bad air battles aren't based around cannons anymore. Reading about the SU27s embarrassing performance at international exercises or during various procurement trials really killed my boner for it. Designed to kill F15s, would die before getting chance to close in.
Even that was a joke as US fighters traditionally had better roll rates. Against a superior turning fighter it was just a matter of going vertical then rolling onto the tail of the bogie or sliding to the outside of the turn in a lag pursuit.
Shit radar and comparatively worse weapons hold it back
The latest Chinese Flankers are unironically better than the Su-35 in a number of ways, notably actually having AESA radar
Hey, can't fault them for trying
good luck trying that in the black sea kek
Please do tell me what Russian air and surface systems operating around the Black Sea can outmatch American aircraft.
>Expendable cheap drone >Expensive Plane with a fucking PILOT
I'd say the West won that clash, lol.
you see anon, Russian soldiers have negative existential value so their deaths actually result in a net profit for the motherland regardless of whether they kill the enemy or not
that's why they're obsessed with drawing their enemies into huge attritional battles and have zero regard for operator ergonomics or safety for their equipment
Its nearly as big as a fucking B-17 and has the RCS to match. Shit radar nowhere comparable to western ones. Its cannon fodder to any reasonably modern opponent. It will be detected and fired upon before it can lock up its opponent.
Great tanker aircraft, has the entire fuel capacity of the eagle with bags entirely in its internal tanks. sucks at everything else because everyone that builds or buys planes already has counters to them in countries that would fly against flankers.
The fuel capacity is a plus...for power projection not currently needed.
If it's not thirsty that's good for long CAP sorties (which use up hours between repairs and inspections, that gets expensive quick even with US assets).
Any Anons know what typical Russian aircraft engine inspection schedules and work performed look like? I've seen figures like 500 flight hours between SU-27 engine overhauls which isn't very good but it's not the hours (swapping engines is easy enough on any fighter you don't have to split in the middle like 1950s machines) but how quickly you run low on spare engines.
Personally, I think it's cool. Maybe because I think all airplanes are cool.
This is a pretty solid documentary on the development of the plane. I wish more airplane documentaries are done this way. Over 2 hours talking about a single airplane, from predevelopment to modernization upgrades.
I highly recommend the first 45 min to any planefag to understand the soviet union's fighter development.
im surprised this didn't get more replies.
that is a solid documentary. i mean you have to put up with the russians sucking themselves off, but it's really comprehensive.
like you said, that first 45 minutes does a good job of explaining the soviet evolution of the fighter and their strategic fighter concept.
i wonder if there is a higher quality version somewhere.
it's a big plane.
whether it's "good" is a subjective question, but the number of variants/derivatives suggests that at least the airframe is versatile
God i fucking wish they actually do something to provoke NATO.
I wish it because then the west would at long last be able to repay every single little barb and insult those mongoloid mutts ever inflicted on us.
The resulting humiliation of Russia would make the treaty of Versailles look like a fucking cakewalk.
Unable to deal with the shame, the chimp in Moscow will order the use of nuclear weapons.
Then millions of russian subhumans will die in nuclear fire.
Then millions more will suffer and starve, and will never again doubt who the real master of this world is.
Why did the pilot even do that? Was he trying to set the UAV on fire?
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Anonymous
For the same reasons he made a bunch of close passes first; trying to disable it in a way that let them go “oops, who put that there, teehee”. Except that only really works on the first try, and after they’d spent an hour or two fucking it up, they just decided “fuck it, ram the damned thing”.
(This is a work of speculation and unpaid anti-SU-27 propaganda)
Losing a drone over the black sea is pretty stupid.
Especially because it's stall speed is MUCH lower than the SU-27 and all they had to do was slow down.
LOL
They have done loads of shit to "provoke" NATO.
But NATO isn't full of psychopaths, so we deliberately palm away these provocations.
If the US wanted to argue that deliberately downing their drone is an act of war then they could. If Poland wanted to argue that the missile killing their farmers was an act of war then they could. If basically everyone wanted to shoot down Russians invading their airspace then they could. But NATO has very little to gain from great power war. The only way it would actually have a chance of happening is if a member was straight up invaded, Feb 24th-style.
It was okay in its time, but still inferior to the F-15. Although I heard that the new version, the SU-35 is pretty decent, but idk. I'm sure there's some dudes with esoteric knowledge in the forum that'll inform us.
I’ll start >wake up >shit/shower/shave >get on PrepHole to see what the Russians fucked up this time >SU-27 spent an hour trying to induce a maneuver kill on a UAV, then gave up and just rammed it
It’s like they’re actively trying to get no-fly zone’d or something.
The U.S. can enforce a no fly zone, but the main issue is nukes. From what I heard, the russians are very quick to go from throwing rocks to throwing nukes and the U.S. doesn't want to risk snowballing like that.
>s-400
Just like how there are s-300/400s in syria? That didn't stop America or Israel from operating withij the airspace openly. The s-400 has been proven a joke in both Ukraine and syria. Ukrainians are using old soviet surplus but still able to make the airspace contested. America can enforce a no fly zone and destroy all anti air assets. >muh iraq
Iraq had the most sophisticated AA network at the time. Baghdad was considered to be the most heavily defended city in the world and U.S. aircrafts were able to waltz in and bomb the shit out of it. Iraq had more sophisticated AA systems than russia at this point.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>Iraq had the most sophisticated AA network at the time
retard
1 week ago
Anonymous
1 week ago
Anonymous
Iraq had a range of SAM networks across their country and america was able to suppress it in no time. Just so you know, every AA network has its weaknesses and exploits. Russia is no different when it comes to revealing its weaknesses and exploits in its defense network because aa networks is a tricky thing to set up.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Soviets had to completely reevaluated air defense concepts after that war. In their view, their air defenses were rendered effectively obsolete.
1 week ago
Anonymous
You and everyone not personally involved in US military aviation at the time cannot have a clue how much work went into destroying/disabling Iraq defenses. That's because most of that work was done over the years before Desert Shield during the Reagan buildup. Words cannot convey the experience of late Cold War overhaul of the armed forces after the Hollow Force era.
The US flew enormous daily training sortie loads and had far more frequent exercises than today. We were preparing to halt the Red Army in the Fulda Gap and Saddam happened get froggy at the worst possible time. Constant practice at killing all things Russian is why that incredibly complex operation went so well. Everything but prepositioned stocks had to cross an ocean (or sometimes the Med) to get there from bombs to asswipe.
When we deployed (I went with the first F-16 squadrons to UAE, 33rd and 17th bringing a mix of Shaw jets) it went as or more smoothly than peacetime TDYs because at that point everything was instinctive. FMC rates matched or topped peacetime. Moving multiple cities worth of humans with their gear, building those cities then fighting from them made taking out Iraq look easy on CNN. Spectators just see the end result.
bro
lmao
come now, there is literally nothing in the air right now that beats the American Air Force.
There could be, in the future, and some missiles render the air force kinda obsolete, but in a pure head-to-head, air-to-air engagement, America wins 10 times out of 10.
that doesn't mean there couldn't be casualties or individually bad battles/sorties, but the overall air war is unwinnable for the opposition. It just can't be done, they're higher tech than yours, and there's more of them. Normally it's one or the other, when it's both you've just been eclipsed militarily and it's time to throw in the towel.
so why won't they do it? afraid of something? you just lost a fucking drone
1 week ago
Anonymous
>you just lost a fucking drone
Exactly. I know Russians have trouble understanding the concept of proportional response, but let me break it down this way: >drone: cheap, old, no pilot >F-35: expensive, new, yes pilot
We simply don’t give enough of a fuck about one recon drone go get off our asses and give Russmorons the bitch-slapping of the century, it’s not worth the effort.
Now knock down one of the AWACS birds, I fucking dare you.
1 week ago
Anonymous
>lose a $30 million drone >by ramming a $42 million plane into it and risking the trained pilot as well
Literally retarded even for Russians. Y'all can't even build new airframes to replace the aging ones, let alone use them like the Japs did in WW2.
1 week ago
Anonymous
They didn't ram it you fucking dipshit.
They jettisoned fuel into it.
Why do you feel the need to lie about this? Fuck.
1 week ago
Anonymous
Are you posting this twaddle for the purpose of being told you're a retard?
>The U.S. can enforce a no fly zone, but the main issue is nukes.
So... in other words they can't enforce a no fly zone.
Also no. You are VASTLY overestimating western militaries to have the ability to loiter over Russia or China for any extended period of time.
Excessive pride is a problem in the west. Be humble. Take your enemies seriously or they will fucking kill you.
You dumb stupid fuck.
I'm sorry, which nation still can't build a proper navigation system?
1 week ago
Anonymous
I'm sorry, are you going to address anything I just informed your peabrain?
I hate people like you who have excessive pride. Pride is one of the worst sins for a reason. Pride will get you fucking killed buddy boy.
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Anonymous
which is why russian peabrains are granted the gift of dying in droves for their leader.
Russians always accusing others of what they do themselves is far too accurate. All I see currently is 50 kopeck posters spamming this as an example of Russyia Strong.
No doubt it will end up being like the Donald Cook incident or HMS Defender FONOP where vatniks will use it for years to come as an example of mighty Russia dunking on NATO despite it being in reality an impotent response to NATO violating Russian claimed sovereignty and meaningless to them getting shot out of the air on day 1 of a war against NATO.
At least in the Cook and Defender incidents we didn't have real combat proofs of how useless the RuAF is as a massive counter-example.
plane designed in failing country with inferior technologies and then never properly modernized in 30 years of insane kleptocracy turned out mediocre. this is unpaid state dept. anti Su 27 propaganda
Keep shit real. Every AF loses a few. The US in the late Cold War as predicted to and did lose about a squadron per year or about 24 fighters.
The only way to lose none is fly none. Noobs have no idea which is why they imagine a crash isn't just the cost of doing business. Fighters are not repeat not airlifters and Class A rates prove it.
It's just underage PrepHoleiddies who have never even been in so much as a fist fight talking shit about things they know nothing about.
I mean read this shit
The U.S. can enforce a no fly zone, but the main issue is nukes. From what I heard, the russians are very quick to go from throwing rocks to throwing nukes and the U.S. doesn't want to risk snowballing like that.
This dipshit actually thinks we could enforce a no fly zone over ALL OF FUCKING RUSSIA
I mean fuck. This is what happens when you raise a generation on nothing but propaganda and hand everything to them while not asking them to work for jack shit in return.
Okay, Jack Hamburger of Ohio Oblast. It's certainly that everyone but you is retarded, and not that Putin is a monkey with a decent chance of mashing the nook button once he realizes that Russia is, in fact, not stronk.
>It's certainly that everyone but you is retarded
THANKS HOSS
I AM GOING TO PRINT THIS OFF AND SHOW IT TO BARB
I TRIED TELLING THIS TO HER FOR YEARS BUT SHE JUST WOULDN'T BELIEVE ME
Honestly anon, you said something fucking stupid and you got called out on it, just admit you are a dipshit, learn and move on.
prettiest sukhoi, almost in the same tier of sexy as F-15.
Capability-wise seems OK but not on par with western equipment. However, between the lax maintenance, inadequate training, low pilot flight hours and and sub-par weapon systems generally fielded with the flanker I kinda think it's mostly not the airframe's fault.
It's my favorite Soviet fighter.
I really like this pic, it's high quality and the ass is done just right. SU22 is a decent jet too, not sure why it's always overlooked in favor of the Mig.
whats the difference between sukhoi aircraft? i recently played ace combat and it said su30, su33, su35, and su37 were all variants based off the 27 and they looked the same to me
it's a potjemkin plane. They knew they had shit tech for a 4th gen so they made something that would impress the avarage joe with its looks and turning ability, while neglecting things that actually matter for a plane.
Same for su57
Pretty good at ramming drones
Absolute trash. Can only ram its enemy head on.
Pretty good at ramming apartment blocks
It's the best in a cold night
Pretty good at making mutts seethe.
You are probably a fat loser that the world would be better off without
I'm sure your opinion on this war will fix your virginity
>woman's insult
>on a man's board
Sure smells like leftypol chuds...
I knew that comment would draw out the underage fags
think whatever you like, you don't belong
>they can smell my surgical wound, better change tactics!
kek
I would love to fix your walking on this earth
Fuck youself asshole
Did he strike a nerve, virgin?
mutts really seethed hahaha
The russians? Yeah, they are seething. Glad we can agree on that.
still seething
just like you had your anal virginity fixed after being conscripted?
it's too fucking huge for what it can do, has shit radar and if you are talking about the 27 variant specifically can't even launch soviet fox3 missiles, stuck with just fox1s and fox2s
in BVR it's target practice for amraams and there is not going to be a chance for it to engage at fox2 distance
but it looks fucking cool and that's all that matters
A bad idea, it was supossed to be the Russian F-15 but can't have medium-range missiles on a time where fights closer than ten clicks just weren't gonna happen unless it was an extreme case (like those Israelis who got from their base and slammed four syrians while they were being bombed).
Drone pilots are nerds that deserve to get bullied and apparently the Su-27 is good at bullying nerds.
Ahaha
Probably a killer dog fighter. Too bad air battles aren't based around cannons anymore. Reading about the SU27s embarrassing performance at international exercises or during various procurement trials really killed my boner for it. Designed to kill F15s, would die before getting chance to close in.
Kek you reminded me of that one vatnik shill last year who was spamming about last gen fighters turn rates like it's 1916
>spamming about last gen fighters turn rates
Even that was a joke as US fighters traditionally had better roll rates. Against a superior turning fighter it was just a matter of going vertical then rolling onto the tail of the bogie or sliding to the outside of the turn in a lag pursuit.
>designed to kill an aircraft that's never lost an engagement
Shit radar and comparatively worse weapons hold it back
The latest Chinese Flankers are unironically better than the Su-35 in a number of ways, notably actually having AESA radar
Hey, can't fault them for trying
Please do tell me what Russian air and surface systems operating around the Black Sea can outmatch American aircraft.
you see anon, Russian soldiers have negative existential value so their deaths actually result in a net profit for the motherland regardless of whether they kill the enemy or not
that's why they're obsessed with drawing their enemies into huge attritional battles and have zero regard for operator ergonomics or safety for their equipment
Its nearly as big as a fucking B-17 and has the RCS to match. Shit radar nowhere comparable to western ones. Its cannon fodder to any reasonably modern opponent. It will be detected and fired upon before it can lock up its opponent.
It does look kinda cool from some angles though.
Great tanker aircraft, has the entire fuel capacity of the eagle with bags entirely in its internal tanks. sucks at everything else because everyone that builds or buys planes already has counters to them in countries that would fly against flankers.
The fuel capacity is a plus...for power projection not currently needed.
If it's not thirsty that's good for long CAP sorties (which use up hours between repairs and inspections, that gets expensive quick even with US assets).
Any Anons know what typical Russian aircraft engine inspection schedules and work performed look like? I've seen figures like 500 flight hours between SU-27 engine overhauls which isn't very good but it's not the hours (swapping engines is easy enough on any fighter you don't have to split in the middle like 1950s machines) but how quickly you run low on spare engines.
well it looks cool but I read that it is incontinent
Add 20 to that and we might have something
the next time one harasses a US aircraft it should be shot down
too bad US antiair sucks ass
sucking ass? more a russian thing if a year's worth of this dogshit is anything to tell
>lets ignore the Air to air or land to air kills that america has
>he doesn't know
good luck trying that in the black sea kek
it'll be alright
"Good from afar but far from good" is an adequate statement regarding Soviet planes from the era.
The best fighter jet money can buy when your target isn't fighting back.
Personally, I think it's cool. Maybe because I think all airplanes are cool.
This is a pretty solid documentary on the development of the plane. I wish more airplane documentaries are done this way. Over 2 hours talking about a single airplane, from predevelopment to modernization upgrades.
I highly recommend the first 45 min to any planefag to understand the soviet union's fighter development.
thanks anon, I'll watch through it later
im surprised this didn't get more replies.
that is a solid documentary. i mean you have to put up with the russians sucking themselves off, but it's really comprehensive.
like you said, that first 45 minutes does a good job of explaining the soviet evolution of the fighter and their strategic fighter concept.
i wonder if there is a higher quality version somewhere.
Typhoon would wreck that fat bitch in BVR any day of the week
it's a big plane.
whether it's "good" is a subjective question, but the number of variants/derivatives suggests that at least the airframe is versatile
God i fucking wish they actually do something to provoke NATO.
I wish it because then the west would at long last be able to repay every single little barb and insult those mongoloid mutts ever inflicted on us.
The resulting humiliation of Russia would make the treaty of Versailles look like a fucking cakewalk.
Unable to deal with the shame, the chimp in Moscow will order the use of nuclear weapons.
Then millions of russian subhumans will die in nuclear fire.
Then millions more will suffer and starve, and will never again doubt who the real master of this world is.
you sound like someone whose drone just got pissed on
Yeah I'm mad that they didn't even have the balls to actually shoot it down and give NATO cassis belli to annihilate them.
well think of the bright side. Now Russia can recover it in pristine condition.
It is both
A) old tech
B) unreplicable by russia since it doesnt run hot garbage
Most of all, I wish to see if history will repeat
That was an RQ170, you realize these are two very different aircraft.
I meant the plastic toy part
>General Salami
Can Iran send us mini toy Javelins too?
>recover it
Lol, considering the puccian history with submarines I wouldn't bet on it
>Russia sends submarine to recover secret (30yo) HATO wunderwaffe
>it suddenly goes missing
Oops 😉
It's an MQ9, they're for sale.
>Expendable cheap drone
>Expensive Plane with a fucking PILOT
I'd say the West won that clash, lol.
the west would have won that clash if the Su-27 was destroyed, which it wasnt
This
Su-27 returned to airfield under it's own power
Well DUMPING FUEL on the drone you plan to ram is pretty fucking stupid, lol.
Why did the pilot even do that? Was he trying to set the UAV on fire?
For the same reasons he made a bunch of close passes first; trying to disable it in a way that let them go “oops, who put that there, teehee”. Except that only really works on the first try, and after they’d spent an hour or two fucking it up, they just decided “fuck it, ram the damned thing”.
(This is a work of speculation and unpaid anti-SU-27 propaganda)
>implying they planned on hitting it
Losing a drone over the black sea is pretty stupid.
Especially because it's stall speed is MUCH lower than the SU-27 and all they had to do was slow down.
LOL
They have done loads of shit to "provoke" NATO.
But NATO isn't full of psychopaths, so we deliberately palm away these provocations.
If the US wanted to argue that deliberately downing their drone is an act of war then they could. If Poland wanted to argue that the missile killing their farmers was an act of war then they could. If basically everyone wanted to shoot down Russians invading their airspace then they could. But NATO has very little to gain from great power war. The only way it would actually have a chance of happening is if a member was straight up invaded, Feb 24th-style.
It was okay in its time, but still inferior to the F-15. Although I heard that the new version, the SU-35 is pretty decent, but idk. I'm sure there's some dudes with esoteric knowledge in the forum that'll inform us.
>now we have to deal with 90 days of unpaid State Department interns spreading anti Su 27 propaganda
vs years of vatmorons creaming themselves because a surveillance drone went down after a bit over one year of "special operation"
I’ll start
>wake up
>shit/shower/shave
>get on PrepHole to see what the Russians fucked up this time
>SU-27 spent an hour trying to induce a maneuver kill on a UAV, then gave up and just rammed it
It’s like they’re actively trying to get no-fly zone’d or something.
if the US was capable of enforcing a no fly zone on Russia it would have done so on day 1
The U.S. can enforce a no fly zone, but the main issue is nukes. From what I heard, the russians are very quick to go from throwing rocks to throwing nukes and the U.S. doesn't want to risk snowballing like that.
>The U.S. can enforce a no fly zone
Sorry but this isnt Iraq, there's S-400s everywhere and there is nothing the US can do about it
>s-400
Just like how there are s-300/400s in syria? That didn't stop America or Israel from operating withij the airspace openly. The s-400 has been proven a joke in both Ukraine and syria. Ukrainians are using old soviet surplus but still able to make the airspace contested. America can enforce a no fly zone and destroy all anti air assets.
>muh iraq
Iraq had the most sophisticated AA network at the time. Baghdad was considered to be the most heavily defended city in the world and U.S. aircrafts were able to waltz in and bomb the shit out of it. Iraq had more sophisticated AA systems than russia at this point.
>Iraq had the most sophisticated AA network at the time
retard
Iraq had a range of SAM networks across their country and america was able to suppress it in no time. Just so you know, every AA network has its weaknesses and exploits. Russia is no different when it comes to revealing its weaknesses and exploits in its defense network because aa networks is a tricky thing to set up.
Soviets had to completely reevaluated air defense concepts after that war. In their view, their air defenses were rendered effectively obsolete.
You and everyone not personally involved in US military aviation at the time cannot have a clue how much work went into destroying/disabling Iraq defenses. That's because most of that work was done over the years before Desert Shield during the Reagan buildup. Words cannot convey the experience of late Cold War overhaul of the armed forces after the Hollow Force era.
The US flew enormous daily training sortie loads and had far more frequent exercises than today. We were preparing to halt the Red Army in the Fulda Gap and Saddam happened get froggy at the worst possible time. Constant practice at killing all things Russian is why that incredibly complex operation went so well. Everything but prepositioned stocks had to cross an ocean (or sometimes the Med) to get there from bombs to asswipe.
When we deployed (I went with the first F-16 squadrons to UAE, 33rd and 17th bringing a mix of Shaw jets) it went as or more smoothly than peacetime TDYs because at that point everything was instinctive. FMC rates matched or topped peacetime. Moving multiple cities worth of humans with their gear, building those cities then fighting from them made taking out Iraq look easy on CNN. Spectators just see the end result.
>there's S-400s everywhere
And?
Other than penetrate to within 100ish kms with f35s and jizzing a load of agm88G and/or agm154As all over the joint?
bro
lmao
come now, there is literally nothing in the air right now that beats the American Air Force.
There could be, in the future, and some missiles render the air force kinda obsolete, but in a pure head-to-head, air-to-air engagement, America wins 10 times out of 10.
that doesn't mean there couldn't be casualties or individually bad battles/sorties, but the overall air war is unwinnable for the opposition. It just can't be done, they're higher tech than yours, and there's more of them. Normally it's one or the other, when it's both you've just been eclipsed militarily and it's time to throw in the towel.
this is the real world, not some russia 1 tv show
so why won't they do it? afraid of something? you just lost a fucking drone
>you just lost a fucking drone
Exactly. I know Russians have trouble understanding the concept of proportional response, but let me break it down this way:
>drone: cheap, old, no pilot
>F-35: expensive, new, yes pilot
We simply don’t give enough of a fuck about one recon drone go get off our asses and give Russmorons the bitch-slapping of the century, it’s not worth the effort.
Now knock down one of the AWACS birds, I fucking dare you.
>lose a $30 million drone
>by ramming a $42 million plane into it and risking the trained pilot as well
Literally retarded even for Russians. Y'all can't even build new airframes to replace the aging ones, let alone use them like the Japs did in WW2.
They didn't ram it you fucking dipshit.
They jettisoned fuel into it.
Why do you feel the need to lie about this? Fuck.
Are you posting this twaddle for the purpose of being told you're a retard?
>The U.S. can enforce a no fly zone, but the main issue is nukes.
So... in other words they can't enforce a no fly zone.
Also no. You are VASTLY overestimating western militaries to have the ability to loiter over Russia or China for any extended period of time.
Excessive pride is a problem in the west. Be humble. Take your enemies seriously or they will fucking kill you.
You dumb stupid fuck.
I'm sorry, which nation still can't build a proper navigation system?
I'm sorry, are you going to address anything I just informed your peabrain?
I hate people like you who have excessive pride. Pride is one of the worst sins for a reason. Pride will get you fucking killed buddy boy.
which is why russian peabrains are granted the gift of dying in droves for their leader.
one has to respect their commitment to the law
Good advice, maybe Putin should have considered it.
Yep.
Maybe you should too, fuck nugget.
Someone REALLY doesn't understand the unwritten but necessary and very real Cold War customs which are why the war hasn't escalated.
US power is considerable but there are many reprisal options so it's far wiser to fight by proxies in limited wars.
Russians always accusing others of what they do themselves is far too accurate. All I see currently is 50 kopeck posters spamming this as an example of Russyia Strong.
No doubt it will end up being like the Donald Cook incident or HMS Defender FONOP where vatniks will use it for years to come as an example of mighty Russia dunking on NATO despite it being in reality an impotent response to NATO violating Russian claimed sovereignty and meaningless to them getting shot out of the air on day 1 of a war against NATO.
At least in the Cook and Defender incidents we didn't have real combat proofs of how useless the RuAF is as a massive counter-example.
Trash as usual, monke should spend money to fed his people instead or wasting money on a lost cause. sad
Learn more english before you shill anymore.
High RCS and draggy af
>went life and death with a drone
Kinda mid tbh
plane designed in failing country with inferior technologies and then never properly modernized in 30 years of insane kleptocracy turned out mediocre. this is unpaid state dept. anti Su 27 propaganda
looks cool, I know Russian planes are kinda shitty but man, they are fucking pretty SU34 is bestu girl
Hispanicy boi.
Su-27 is garbage. J-11 is superior in every possible way.
it's sad because it's true
It doesn't need enemy planes to crash
Keep shit real. Every AF loses a few. The US in the late Cold War as predicted to and did lose about a squadron per year or about 24 fighters.
The only way to lose none is fly none. Noobs have no idea which is why they imagine a crash isn't just the cost of doing business. Fighters are not repeat not airlifters and Class A rates prove it.
It's just underage PrepHoleiddies who have never even been in so much as a fist fight talking shit about things they know nothing about.
I mean read this shit
This dipshit actually thinks we could enforce a no fly zone over ALL OF FUCKING RUSSIA
I mean fuck. This is what happens when you raise a generation on nothing but propaganda and hand everything to them while not asking them to work for jack shit in return.
Okay, Jack Hamburger of Ohio Oblast. It's certainly that everyone but you is retarded, and not that Putin is a monkey with a decent chance of mashing the nook button once he realizes that Russia is, in fact, not stronk.
>It's certainly that everyone but you is retarded
THANKS HOSS
I AM GOING TO PRINT THIS OFF AND SHOW IT TO BARB
I TRIED TELLING THIS TO HER FOR YEARS BUT SHE JUST WOULDN'T BELIEVE ME
Honestly anon, you said something fucking stupid and you got called out on it, just admit you are a dipshit, learn and move on.
You're the one assuming that 1: I'm the same anon, and 2: that he was talking about an ALL OF RUSSIA no-fly zone. Take your meds.
I have no way of knowing if you are or aren't.
I took the meds, all they did was give me an erection.
prettiest sukhoi, almost in the same tier of sexy as F-15.
Capability-wise seems OK but not on par with western equipment. However, between the lax maintenance, inadequate training, low pilot flight hours and and sub-par weapon systems generally fielded with the flanker I kinda think it's mostly not the airframe's fault.
It's my favorite Soviet fighter.
I really like this pic, it's high quality and the ass is done just right. SU22 is a decent jet too, not sure why it's always overlooked in favor of the Mig.
why is PrepHole so silent? can't cope? you just lost a million dollars drone
it was unarmed just like george floyd
still a lost
>F-22 shoots down balloons
>Su-27 rams drones
The future is FUCKING GAY
Top flex
OC that isn't homosexual or involving pepe or wojak edits would be nice.
Dumping the fuel then hitting the prop is like Spy vs Spy shit and hilarious
One of the best 4.5 gen fighters in the world.
whats the difference between sukhoi aircraft? i recently played ace combat and it said su30, su33, su35, and su37 were all variants based off the 27 and they looked the same to me
i personally think it's cute
it's a potjemkin plane. They knew they had shit tech for a 4th gen so they made something that would impress the avarage joe with its looks and turning ability, while neglecting things that actually matter for a plane.
Same for su57