Opinion on the MiG-21?

My country still flies these lol

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Great when it was new but hopeless now as anything other than an advanced trainer or placeholder. If it allows your country to maintain an airforce until they can get something better, its doing its job.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      We fly Mig-29s and Su_24, but I love the design of MiG-21 a lot

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Su 24, mig 29 and mig 21 in 2023
        Are you Sudanese?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Worse, I’m Arab. 🙁

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Syria?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Arab
            Are you sudanese?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          No, Sugondese

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >trainer
      Hasn’t india crashed like a 30% of their Mig21 fleet?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >allows your country to maintain an airforce until they can get something better
      Not when the aircraft is constantly killing pilots.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Not when the aircraft is constantly killing pilots.
        This is how they cut the wheat from the chaff.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Sexy, but...

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Still get upgrades and kicks ass.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        *Citation needed*
        How many MiG-21 in Indian service were lost to peacetime attrition again?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >How many MiG-21 in Indian service were lost to peacetime attrition again?
          >Since 1970 more than 170 Indian pilots and 40 civilians have been killed in MiG-21 accidents, thus the unofficial nickname 'flying coffin'. Over half of the 840 aircraft built between 1966 and 1984 were lost to crashes.[11] At least 14 MiG-21s crashed between 2010 and 2013
          Jesus christ

          • 1 year ago
            Fizzbitch

            *Citation needed*
            How many MiG-21 in Indian service were lost to peacetime attrition again?

            Is it just cause poos can't fly? Or is the Mig21 that shit?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Poor maintenance and quality of replacement parts has been considered to be a factor in this phenomenon.[12] When in afterburner, the engine operates very close to its surge line and the ingestion of even a small bird can lead to an engine surge/seizure and flame out

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Poos can't fly, poos can't build aircraft, poos can't maintain aircraft, MiG-21 is a very unforgiving aircraft in certain situations and configurations.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              yes

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Mig-21 is the soviet Starfighter but worse.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                More akin to an F5, I would think.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's more akin to the F-5 in that it can turn somewhat, however it's more similar to starfighter in the fact that it's designed as a high altitude interceptor with speed above all else, as well as them both having notorious issues flying low due to their design. For the F-104 it's its lack of stability at low level that when compounded with overweight and bomb laden configuration it was often used in euro air forces caused many crashes, while the Mig-21 experiences heavy buffeting when approaching supersonic speeds at low level, literally shaking itself apart if you try to push it forward.

                Neither of the latter planes were designed to be multirole either, unlike the F-5.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The F-5 completely obliterated the MiG-21 and 23 in trials by the Soviets in dogfights.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                F5 toasts basically everything pre teen series in fairness

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Da komrade, this second string plane shits on our best what do we do? What's that komrade? Lie and hype up our next plane? Good idea, that will put the fear of god into those capitalist pigs.

                >repeat for 50 years
                This never backfired even once.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                How did the Soviets get F-5s for testing purposes?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Left in Saigon, captured by PAVN

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                They got one F-5 from the North Vietnamese. After fixing the front wheel because the F-5 couldn‘t cope with the shitty piles of rubble the Russians pretend to be runways, the Russians were shitting bricks how their top fighters were beaten every fricking time against the cheap and downgraded fighter jet of the West.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The f-104 did not have a higher accident rate compared to its predecessor in west german service

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >gets dabbed on by a 40 year old F-16

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Soon you will be selling these to Republic of Moscow air defense force.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Still get upgrades
        Yes
        >and kicks ass
        No

        https://i.imgur.com/ImUmHhx.jpg

        My country still flies these lol

        Obsolete platforms like these running strike missions against rebels saved assad back in 2011 so they are not useless, but in any contested airspace I doubt a mig-21 is even capable of scoring a kill against something other than another mig-21

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Hvala bogu da ih se riješavamo dok se ne sruše svi na još par kuća

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    In my opinion, and speaking entirely in terms of looks MiG-21 should either be the original "pencil" type of the F and F-13 interceptors.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      or the full on fatback SMT in frontline aviation camoflage and loaded to the max for strike missions against airbases and harbors in Germany, or possibly with a near suicidal nuclear strike role.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    thirdie plane

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I love the way it looks, too bad it's a death trap.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >no bubble canopy
    >head-down instruments and sticks
    >very limited radar, reliant on GCI
    when it was introduced it was a mediocre aircraft
    It's a flying coffin these days

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Opinion on the MiG-21?
    The MiG-21 really was a fighter of its era but also for a jet fighter they built more than ten thousand of, its era was incredibly short. It was never made with having a radar on board in mind so it ended up being stuck with heat-seeking missiles in a time when longer range radar guided missiles were coming into their own. It wasn't very big so it could not really be heavily upgraded either and worse still it had very little carrying capacity or range so it could not even transition effectively to a ground attack role.
    Compare that to the F-4 Phantom, excellent range, large carrying capacity, lots of room for upgrades, you could gut that thing and upgrade it to carry all the modern weapons and countries have. The MiG 21 was a fighter that could never leave the early 60's and the Communist world had built thousands upon thousands of them. It's well remembered for its short relevance over Vietnam but I consider it a big boondoggle.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I have to wonder could you make these things into cheap ass missile buses and use external guidance for the missiles so they actually hit shit?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You got four wing ordnance stations, two of which are generally needed for external tanks to extend the range beyond the same zip code.
        The MiG-21 might not be the best platform for this.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Opinion on the MiG-21?
    its still fast, I think it could do decent with modern weapons and sensors

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wouldn't that nose shape cause a frick tonne of drag?

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