Old fighter jets as cruise missiles

Why do we not see old aircraft mainly fighter jets being used as cheap cruise missiles. Both sides of the Russo/Ukraine war have come into issues supplying modern weapons to their respective sides why not strap old bombs to an F4 or mig 23 and send it across the front line to expose air defense or crash somewhere ? There is present for this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB2W1HtYY50 and drone tech has advanced a lot since 1989.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because if it's older than the late 1980s it probably wasn't fly by wire. That means for all the mechanical bullshit you'd have to set up to interface with the plane controls it'd be cheaper, faster, and more reliable to build a new missile.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That is exactly what Russia has been doing anon.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you need a pilot to press all the buttons
    easy to shoot down

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How hard can it be to RC a fighter?
      Provided it's fly by wire. Old fighters aren't fly by wire, disregard this post.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia 3,000 years ahead of the west
    Cope and seethe NAFO trannies

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    already done wasn't very effective

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Was actually more cost- and life- effective than doing regular bombing raids (at least when japs did it.)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Except it wasn't since they fricking lost.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Was actually more cost- and life- effective than doing regular bombing raids
        Only because those regular raids were already suicidal

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's been done before with F-4's and F-16's, and maybe other airframes I am not aware of to use as target drones for weapon tests. You could do it, teh same way the Russians turned some of their older tanks into kamikazes, but I am guessing there technical and practical/operational/cos-efficiency problems with employing older airframes as a single-use bomb.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because older jets don't know where they are and only have a rough idea of where they aren't.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By that logic, a DC-3 is a window licking moron traveling through the skies by the grace of god alone

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nice

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay, I'll bite, where the frick is this from? Years ago I filed it away as Anon quoting Douglas Adams but now that I think about it I'm not sure DNA ever wrote anything like that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/the-missile-knows-where-it-is

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it takes too long to train the serf meat crash test dummies to fly them since most of them aint fly by fire

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia already does, unfortunately they all seem to hit Belgorod

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't make sense anymore because we are not stuck in the 40s.
    >747 Mistel being controlled by a 16

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about old fighter jets as loyal wingmen?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      But honestly, say you have "out of the box" loyal wingman computer hardware and good understanding of required network systems, sensors etc.

      What is the issue with taking apart something like Romanian decommissioned mig-21s, chopping it down to the point where it's engines and payload are light enough and powerful enough to keep up with whatever your pilots actually want to fly in, and acting as a kitbashed ghostbat?

      Doesn't that help a country curtail a lot of jet engine research, whilst simultaneously speedrunnig a lot of UAV/ jet research?

      What happened to those Roma mugs anyway?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Old military hardware is never "thrown away". Its stored, because even if it doesn't have a credible use, it has a political use. When a plane or fleet is "Shredded" or decommissioned and it looks brutal, it is a signal to a competing power. It means "Frick you." and is part of war by other means.

        The boneyard will remain in place for a while longer, chocked full of fighters waiting to die by one means or another. And what you stated is 100% in the realm of possibility for a little longer. A second rate power's missile defenses could be swarmed by a ghost fleet of fighters and drones. Its what the US did to Iraq in the early 90s with a bunch of target drones and refurbished cold war missiles.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you know what would be even better than using old jets as cruise missiles?

    using those air frames to fire cruise missiles and then return to base and doing it again

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the US, we already used most of them as live-fire targets for testing SAMs and AAMs.

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