What's the appropriate *military* response to this frickery.
inb4: WHEEEE THEY WON'T DO SHIEEET!!1
Bitch, they literally did Chernobyl, Kyshtym, not to mention 4-5 submarine reactor incidents - they don't give a frick about the safety, health of their people and are unable to foresee the consequences of their actions further than 1 hour into the future.
Not to mention they would definitely benefit from increased EU nuclear hysteria and dependence on fossil fuels, plus no one would need contaminated grain from Ukraine, so the Russians would just be blackmailing all of southeast Asia and Africa with food.
This is some CoD mission plot shit
Really makes you wonder what actually happened during the cold war that is still classified by both sides.
>Read the post in makarovs voice while the level is loading
>expeditionary force by US/UK/French coalition to liberate the plant
>SAS and Delta do high speed low drag insertion in to the plant to frick up the garrison with slowmo breaches and all of that
>FFL used as cannon fodder (lol) to halt the relief force while SAS and Delta do high speed low drag
>Obligatory AC-130 support while F35's do wild weasel and F22 swat cyka-27's with new name tags out of the sky
>vatniks do nothing but seethe about it with obligatory muh noooooks threats
>biden detonates a nuke over the black sea for the lols
If we are living in such a clown timeline where gas is 7$ a galon i can see it happening
I swear there was a similar mission in MW3 where you attack a mine or a missile silo like that apart from the last mission on MW1
Do they know that winds in Ukraine usually blow west to east?
Implying anyone with decision making power in Russia gives two shits about what happens to Russians
>as you know we have mined all the important facilities of the nuclear power plant
what the frick
episode 6 coming soon
imagine wanting to invest your lifeblood in a slavic shithole at war with another slavic shithole
At this point my hatred for rusBlack folk is so strong that frick it, maybe it's time for a final solution
imagine not wanting to frick over a shitty cleptocratic dictator and his attempt to wage a naked war of conquest
Why should I care what happens in europe?
Why wouldn't you care about what happens in your ethnic homeland?
shut the frick up you cucked mongrel
>Look at this totally real statement
>What should we do about these totally real words?
have a nice day
>imagine not wanting to
Yeah, this shit literally doesn't affect or bother me.
Obvious shill is obvious
Imagine whoring yourself for the AIDS capital of the world. Imagine the complete lack of self worth.
imagine fighting for globohomo. so that they take ure tax dollars give it to gays to indoctrinate children. that is a big NO from me player.
>imagine fighting for globohomo. so that they take ure tax dollars give it to gays to indoctrinate children. that is a big NO from me player.
putin is a israelite too, he just wants to be the alpha israelite, or did you miss the part where his excuse for invading ukraine was "de-nazifying" it. He allso allowed homosexual troony shit as much as ukraine did. He's not based or trad, he's yet another israelite for globalism.
i don't know if what u are saying is true. All I know is that in the USA they are very pro gay in the government and anti christian.
so frick that. CHRIST IS KING
also usa has a massive Black person crime problem in its cities cause white collar workers left cause of covid
>i don't know if what u are saying is true. All I know is that in the USA they are very pro gay in the government and anti christian.
Putin literally does the same thing, he's a israelite.
>so frick that. CHRIST IS KING
Putin doesn't care about christ, he is a globalhomosexual israelite, just liike ukraine.
>also usa has a massive Black person crime problem in its cities cause white collar workers left cause of covid
>whataboutism
no vatnik, Putin is a israelite, he's not based, he's not trad, he's another slimey bolshevik globalist homo, just because blacks are chimping out doesn't make Russia magically better, it's still a frozen shithole.
Don't reply to schizoid ESLgays.
>christ
Aren't you a bit old to have imaginary friends anon?
All gods are fake, all priests are liars, all worshipers are madmen
This world will know no peace until the last king is strangled to death with the guts of the last priest.
Schizos don't deserve to live
*Tips*
>schizoimage from pol
you are a Hispanic and you need to go back
you're not a Christian as you're not Christlike in the slightest. you're a delusional larper, and thus you should not be even acknowledged as being "Christian"
And Russia has a Russian crime problem literally everywhere. I can exclude nigs from my community. You can't escape Russians in Russia.
Dog the Russians literally banned religion lmao
Actual teenager
Very edgy, I bet you think you’re real smart
>Actual teenager
yahweh and all permutations of his teachings are false, Black person. that's not gonna change by calling strangers on the internet teenagers.
Some moron screeching online doesn’t make anything false. Maybe one day you’ll see
>Maybe one day you’ll see
I won't see god, and neither will you
Of course I will. And you will too
now kith
If you lose your arm, does it go to heaven before you? Is it reattached upon entering the afterlife? Can body parts go to separate after lifes based on your behavior at the time of amputation?
Holy smokes what a gotcha!
I want your hand to stroke me in heaven while you watch from hell.
atheists go to heaven, fool.
Why would someone that purposely denies Gods love go to heaven. Wouldn’t renouncing God and your faith cause some problems with going to heaven?
Maybe one day you'll see
I mean I can see it but I’d imagine they have to renounce their evil and all that
With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil - that takes religion
Oh spare me the bullshit. Any time I hear this it’s always either someone conflating the entire religion to be their shitty mcchurch in the south, or someone who wants to escape any responsibility. Every time. Yeah bro only religion makes you evil, it’s definitely not that they were actually bad people all along haha
That's what makes you a useful idiot
No a useful idiot is a state mandated atheist who invades his neighbors because he’s poor and stupid. Holding yourself to a higher standard and striving to be a better person is not
>state mandated atheist
There's no such thing. Meanwhile the planet has no shortage of failed theocratic governments. Hold yourself to that standard if you'd like, but draw your own conclusions.
Oh so we’re just gonna pretend there’s never been a socialist or communist country or takeover ever in history. Fricking tankies
>The communist association argument
Like clockwork:
Well I mean it’s a good association. Regardless, failed theocratic governments? There’s been awfully few of them and the only true theocracy in Europe has survived hundreds if not thousands of years. I understand that religion may seem like the cause of many conflicts, but frankly that’s ignoring the human element, or ignoring that it’s often a cheap justification. A belief in God, especially for the common people, is almost always a positive, and I feel it’s removal with no replacement does lead to situations like in communist or capitalist countries where it’s replaced by an obsession with material nothings
>ignoring the human element
Religion is a human element you homosexual.
>A belief in God, especially for the common people, is almost always a positive.
It's a tool for those in power to control useful idiots. Examples of this exist beyond the Catholic religion. Suppression of knowledge and freedoms in place of faith is the primary doctrine to achieve this end.
>material nothings
Life is what YOU make it, Black person. No book, skydaddy, or what some pre-meth skitzo may or may not have said 1000s of years ago will ever change that.
Well there you go. Go on believing what you will then, I just disagree entirely with your beliefs, or lack there if I suppose. Hopefully one day you’ll grow out of it
>Hopefully one day you’ll grow out of it
Even the most mature, and morally sound people recognize the cognitive dissonance imposed by religious teachings, anon. I hope one day, you grow beyond your self imposed ceiling.
He's right though, the USSR was an atheist state, and most commie countries are, and are just as failed as the average theocracies. Really the same could be said for matriarchies, patriarchies, meritocracy, and really any system that doesn't put functional efficiency at the forefront. That's why the modern political paradigm only supports democratic republics, and the occasional totalitarian.
>any system that doesn't put functional efficiency at the forefront
This doesn't support religion as an argument, but rather Stalin's failure as a corrupt leader.
>Lol. People who scapegoat religion evade responsibility. Bad people bad
>NOOOO! Stalin was an atheist! All atheists are communist, all communists are atheists. Communism leads to atheism, atheism leads to communism.
Suck my capitalist dick. Jesus was a communist by practice, and god is a tyrant unworthy of praise by definition
Atheism and communism, while not necessarily mutually exclusive, are still completely separate ideas.
You can:
-be a skydaddy worshiping tankie gay
-be an atheist capitalist
-be a skydaddy worshiping capitalist
-be an atheist tankie
This isn't a hard concept.
It's easy for that pea between my ears to just conflate everything I'm told to hate in one single camp. Also it makes it easier while making wojaks.
>for good people to do evil
>it’s definitely not that they were actually bad people all along
Are you logically challenged?
What I mean to say is religion doesn’t make good people do evil
Donating to and wanting to help the poor doesn’t make you a communist any more than donating a dollar at the end of your purchase at a store does.
>Donating to and wanting to help the poor doesn’t make you a communist any more than donating a dollar at the end of your purchase at a store does.
Jesus supported Caesar's taxes, enforces entry to heaven by gatekeeping the rich (camel+needle bullshit), and wants you to unconditionally love people. Frick you, Black person.
Caesar was also notably not communist, so I don’t see your point there. Is a Christian in america paying taxes a communist too? He didn’t gatekeep the rich either, it’s just true that a lot of rich people choose to do no good with their money and as such you’d have an easier time finding righteous poor people than righteous rich people. And yes loving people is a good thing. I don’t get your point on any of these
>Some moron screeching online doesn’t make anything false. Maybe one day you’ll see
Neither does someone screeching at churches, mosques, synagogues, or anywhere else about how the other gods are fake, but theirs is somehow the golden ticket. Get a damn clue.
And what is this clue? What does it offer
the bolsheviks clearly didn't kill enough christians.
>CHRIST IS KING
He wouldn't be very happy with your baby-rape horde of AIDS creatures, pidorashka. You're all going to hell.
>t. Stepan from New Mexico oblast
>let trannies rape your kids or you're a russian!
>blocks your path
>us politicians are pedos
>better let dictators steamroll random slavshit countries, this'll fix it
schizo logic
>a globalist dictator who wants mass-immigration and gay troony sex taught to kindergarteners is fighting another slavic dictator
>you must support the globalist dictator
lol
>putin
>not supporting mass immigration
Why do vatBlack folk always forget that this happened? have a nice day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%932022_Belarus%E2%80%93European_Union_border_crisis
>>us politicians are pedos
Not like russians are any better, why did putin have litvinenko assasinated again
!!!
Good baitpost, but you made it too late.
Russia has shown its true face: it is a terrorist state at war with the entire civilized world, similar to ISIS. They are enemies of mankind.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostis_humani_generis
I'd rather my tax money is used for killing russians than for planned parenthood or pozholes
Modern reactors won't do shit, even if you destroy them. You would need to be very precise in order to create another Chernobyl.
Appropriate military response is to declare that if Russia detonates the reactor it will be considered a dirty bomb and therefore a nuclear weapon, and will trigger the same response as if they had used a warhead. No nation in the world stands to benefit from another Chernobyl.
It's not a modern reactor dude
It is
Zaporizhzhia NPP is a decade younger than Chernobyl. Not much more modern.
>Zaporizhzhia NPP is a decade younger than Chernobyl. Not much more modern
It is completely different type
>nuke Russia in response
>they nuke people back
Yeah great idea.
you won't do shit
>Verification not required
Better to scrub the earth clean of humanity than live as hostages to one man's will.
Counterforce First Strike, these people have long since burned through my patience with them.
If the Russians decide to make yet another Chernobyl, it’s not just our right, but our duty to turn them into another Carthage.
This
If the Russians seriously think that creating yet another environmental catastrophe that leaves thousands of miles of Earth uninhabitable for millennia is an appropriate response to losing a naked war of aggression, then there is legitimately no point in trying to reason with these people. Either we exterminate them, or they exterminate us.
>egitimately no point in trying to reason with these people. Either we exterminate them, or they exterminate us.
that has been the case for hundreds of years already, but only a few in the west realized that. You reap what you sow, orcs and chinks should have been dealt with during ww2 and never allowed to get to this point.
>Counterforce First Strike
This, followed by selection of a few Russian cities to nuke every so often until there are no major cities left.
Was Anne an Atreides all along?
>Modern reactors won't do shit
>Soviet-built pile of shit
pick one
all russians should be mass murdered to the last woman and child
least Russophobic Pole
The proper response when dealing with a normal army is to report this to enemy high command and wait for them to assassinate this nut along with every single officers and 1 out of 10 servicemen, because no sane country wants to be seen as responsible for deliberately engineered nuclear disasters.
Russia is neither normal nor sane however, so the proper response is immediate NATO mobilization and making sure NATO civilians can receive adequate protection when the inevitable does happen.
Also, make it abundantly clear to the bottox-stuffed midget hiding in his bunker that if he keeps playing the "this is our last stand" card, his moronic propaganda will become reality.
i do admit this shit is kinda scary
but it doesn't make any sense really, if this shit blows up, what's next? it sure fricks up europe but it exposes a large part of russia to the radiation danger as well.
everything we've seen up to this day tells us that monke fricked up big but he's not suicidial and every time he backs down when met with appropriate response.
i think it is a sign of desperation and it seems like vatniks are having a bad time on the southern front.
>Also, make it abundantly clear to the bottox-stuffed midget hiding in his bunker that if he keeps playing the "this is our last stand" card, his moronic propaganda will become reality.
sadly we have no political will for this kinda stuff.
>no political will
If Zaporozhye goes kaboom because of Russians being Russians, and especially if radiation starts spreading a little bit westward, I would be shocked if the US doesn’t seize the opportunity and do Eastern Storm. Also
>monke is not suicidal
Never underestimate the sheer desperation an egotistical autocrat can have anon. Monkes entire image and country is unravelling in real time, 30-40+ years of political mind games both in and outside of Russia completely fricked from the span of just a few weeks.
WW2 is their creation mythos, there is literally nothing else aside from Kremlin thugs holding that entire shitshow together. Why would a Buryat or Kamchatkan or Tuvan give a remote shit about muh Ukrainian nazees when Russians have been nothing but a thorn in their side for generations and actively fricked with from Tsarist and Soviet Russia just like the Chechens?
>Never underestimate the sheer desperation an egotistical autocrat can have anon.
yeah true
WW2 is important because it effectively justified communism/the Soviet union to the public. Stalin kept saying that the ussr was under threat and needed to modernize and become strong to counter this, thus when he purged it was claimed it was to keep the USSR strong, when he collectivized it was to make the USSR strong etc. Then when war broke out and the USSR was caught unprepared, the party can say "see, without us you would have been destroyed". Now while other people would say that they could have been prepared without that repression or that they still weren't prepared despite the repression, Russians say "well, while what he did was bad, at least it allowed us to survive WW2". Now because the party legitimacy and cannot argue that it protects freedom (like liberalism) or that it brings prosperity (like modern china) it instead points to WW2 and immortalizes and celebrate WW2 to an extent greater then any western country so that the public is constantly reminded of why the party is legitimate. This continues despite the fact Russia is no longer the USSR or communist because Russians are (moronic) sympathetic to and miss the Soviet union, partially out of old people being nostalgic but also because Russia being a "respected" power and the stability it offered, and thus this connection to the USSR remains
>it sure fricks up europe but it exposes a large part of russia to the radiation danger as well.
They will just spin it as it being the West's fault and mindless Russian serfs will just eat it up.
Even for orcs it's going to be hard to eat up propaganda when their skin is falling off and their organs begin to fail all at once.
What? My point wasn't that they would claim there was no radiation, my point was that they would claim it was the West's fault. Not sure how you misunderstood me.
they'll easily accept that propaganda over acceptance of the fact that they're in the wrong in anything
> sadly we have no political will for this kinda stuff.
Do we need to have the political will? Better than even odds that putin’s inner circle are getting increasingly worried about never getting their ultra yachts and underage prostitutes back and putin will end up in a ditch with a couple of billets in the back of his head whilst the ruskies try to get back to business as normal
> What's the appropriate *military* response to this frickery.
Chemical attack. I suggest VX.
> fentanyl
Sadly it wouldn't work - their tolerance to opioids is already sky high.
>Attack the Russian chemical troops, specifically trained and equipped to deal with chemical attacks, who have their finger on the detonator of a nuclear reactor... with chemical weapons
How do you people even dress yourselves?
>Russian chemical troops, specifically **trained and equipped** to deal with chemical attacks
By the Russian standards, maybe.
Meaning that they will die in 5 mins and not in 2 mins of exposure.
Even in WWI with shit tier equipment and training, British fatalities from chemical attacks were ~21% at their highest.
Chemical weapons haven't really changed too much since then, believe it or not.
>I don't understand how fricking MINES work and/or can't read
Were the troops in Chernobyl chemical troops?
>Chemical weapons haven't really changed too much since then, believe it or not.
That's like saying guns haven't changed much since then. Sure, 1911s are still around, but there's been a world of advancement since. VX, for instance, was only discovered in the 50s, and is MUCH more lethal than chlorine or mustard gas.
The only really widespread modern application of chemical weapons I'm aware of is mustard gas during the Iran-Iraq War. Syria also allegedly used chlorine recently. Both of these are very much WWI-era.
I'm not really well informed on CWs that have never been employed, admittedly.
(Egypt also allegedly used them in Yemen, but all sources citing it cite the same primary source of an Israeli 'eye witness,' who was the only one to have seen it. Gaddafi also allegedly used them in Chad during the Toyota War but I've been unable to find any evidence of this.)
Thank you for the source.
>If you blow up a nuclear reactor it wont spread radiation
"In 1988, a United Nations inquiry established that Cuba was responsible for deploying VX against Angolan insurgents during the Angolan Civil War.[40][41] UN toxicologists obtained trace elements of VX from soil, water, and plant samples taken from areas where Cuban troops had recently carried out counter-insurgency operations.[40] Patients demonstrating symptoms of exposure to nerve agents first began appearing in Angolan hospitals around 1984.[42]
There was evidence of a combination of chemical agents having been used by Iraq against the Kurds in the Halabja chemical attack in 1988 under Saddam Hussein, including VX.[43] Hussein later testified to UNSCOM that Iraq had researched VX, but had failed to weaponize the agent due to production failure. After U.S. and allied forces invaded Iraq, no VX agent or production facilities were found. However, UNSCOM laboratories detected traces of VX on warhead remnants.[44][45]"
The other notable uses are Aum Shinrikio and the assassination of Kim's brother, not exactly military applications.
The delivery methods are still basically the same as WWI (namely artillery) but the nerve agents themselves are MUCH more powerful. Chlorine gas especially maimed more than it killed (there were a lot of blind asthmatics after the war), but there are basically no non-fatal casualties from modern CWs.
Whether or not modern MOPP gear and training are effective is unproven though, no one's had the balls to use them on anything more than troublesome rebels. I'm honestly kind of surprised, it seems like the perfect answer for a regional power to flex on its ethnic minorities and expansionist neighbors. Just fricking gas a few of them. It's not like the US is gonna give a shit if there are a few less Tuaregs, right?
Thanks; I had researched the Angolan War, but I namely looked at what happened in 1975-1976. Hadn't heard of any chemical weapons use by the Cubans.
I'm going to read into it more, since the source cited doesn't necessarily say that, "a United Nations inquiry established that Cuba was responsible," but instead that the United Nations was informed and that a Belgian scientist found traces; however there is no citation to the United Nations report he would have made.
Admittedly it's a wiki source and the UN would love to justify its existence by finding chemical weapons. IIRC VX (and Sarin) break down pretty quickly when exposed to the elements, so ex post facto evidence of use would be difficult to find even under clear cut circumstances.
I've always found the chemical taboo to be kind of strange, given the (relatively) small nature of the weapons. Nukes I get, because they're practically apocalyptic (or literally, if you happen to live too close to a target), but it's easy enough to gas a village and move on. But even when countries do it (and all the major powers have done it at one point or another), they come up with excuses why it was an accident or whatever, because they're ashamed.
Sorry, here's my reply; wrote it before the page refreshed
It's largely due to how cruel the deaths are. With phosgene and chlorine you choke to death on your own bodily fluids, sometimes over the course of 48 hours. With mustard gas the giant blisters that form all over the body, but especially on the genitals and armpits, pop and leave third degree burns, while initial exposure causes temporary blindness.
Imagine a flamethrower that could take days of burning to actually finish the target off, and you get the aversion to chemical weapons.
I'd recommend this video for more info,
>It's largely due to how cruel the deaths are.
But if you're a tinpot dictator who wants to send a message to those filthy ethnic rebels in the [direction], it seems like the barbarity would be a feature, not a bug. But perhaps the big players feel strongly enough about it that even small use would attract unwanted attention. Did the Hutus have access to any old colonial chem stockpiles? I'm only passingly familiar with the various African genocides.
As mentioned it's also propaganda; the employment of chemical weapons can be used as a casus belli for nations more powerful than the tinpot dictatorship to intervene on humanitarian grounds since by large the world views the weapons as barbaric.
While powerful nations could lie about the employment of chemical weapons to try and justify a military intervention anyway, the tinpot dictatorship could at least retain credibility among it's allies in this case and plausible deniability among the international community, rather than face complete isolation. Lies about chemical weapons typically don't have a lot of evidence to go along with them (Egypt in Yemen, Libya in Chad, Cuba in Angola), whereas overt use (Iraq in Iran & Kurdistan) would provide ample evidence even to neutral parties.
While chemical attacks weren't the casus belli for the Gulf War, they played a part in isolating Iraq politically to the point where the Soviets wouldn't even raise protest, and the Ba'athist Syrian Arab Army served alongside the United States in the liberation of Kuwait.
I also want to mention I definitely need to do more reading into chemical weapons employment during the Syrian Civil War. I only started following the conflict around 2018, so the only attack I'm familiarized with is the Douma attack, which with the Wikileaks OPCW report suggesting the chlorine canister was larger than the hole in the roof it allegedly fell in through, left me skeptical of it at least. Other attacks probably hold a lot more water to them.
Also, the first time I saw CWs and Rwanda together were ironically when researching Heyndrickx, who claimed they were employed lol
Humus did it the old fashioned way, with machetes and AK's and lots of elbow grease
And people say black Africans don’t have a work ethic
>But perhaps the big players feel strongly enough about it that even small use would attract unwanted attention. Did the Hutus
This is exactly, precisely why small players do not use chemical weapons. As Syria demonstrates, they are the only way to make the big players give a shit about a small war.
>I had researched the Angolan War, but I namely looked at what happened in 1975-1976. Hadn't heard of any chemical weapons use by the Cubans.
The Soviets had a proud tradition of using Cubans as their attack dogs in Africa in lieu of their own army or the armies of the Warsaw Pact. For a man who claimed to oppose imperialism, Castro was exceedingly eager to take his country into its own wars of conquest.
Damn near every Cold War conflict in Africa had Cuban hands all over it.
Not to doubt your point on the validity of VX, but from information available online the Angolan employment is seeming kinda sketch. I'm just worried I'm gonna fall for another Yellow Rain.
Only references to it I can find mention skepticism,
https://www.files.ethz.ch/isn/145221/2002_ProjectCoase_en.pdf#page=33
https://sci-hub.ru/10.1001/jama.1990.03440080038011
Heyndrickx's actual report isn't scanned or available online, and I can only find it in one library Stateside. Even the skeptical article referenced in the sci-hub link isn't scanned or available online.
I'm going to look into Aubin Heyndrickx's credibility overall. Hope I'm not derailing; chemical weapons discussion isn't frequent enough here.
No, yeah, the Angolan gassings almost certainly didn't happen.
Heyndrickx was convicted of fraud for misusing the University of Ghent's funds, and his work was largely used to justify South Africa's Project Coast program.
https://www.google.com/books/edition/Verification_of_the_Biological_and_Toxin/LEIQTNwrTqgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Aubin+Heyndrickx&pg=PA59&printsec=frontcover
https://www.journeyman.tv/film_documents/778/transcript/
Again, this is less to do about the efficiency of VX gas, but a genuine history in the employment of chemical weapons.
It seems like a vast majority of CW cases in the second half of the 19th century are either faked or just don't hold water.
That should answer your question regarding the infrequency of employment, though; chemical weapons have been a propaganda tool to decry the savagery of nations alleged to have employed them for decades, and to justify international action against them.
>You can blow up a reactor with landmines.
Lol Chernobyl happened because it was sealed completely and left to cook till it popped like a pressure cooker bomb. That's a helluva lot more force than you'll get by filling the reactor with mines. And the best part? Chernobyl was a entirely different reactor design and Zaporozhe cannot fail in the same manner, there is no way to "plug it up." The worst thing you vatnig idiots will do is kill power to the region. But you would have known that if you had a slight understanding of nuclear power generation, like I said earlier.
This is a weird translation error - ‘mining’ something means demolishing it with explosives. ‘Mines’ are the literal translation of what means ‘explosives’ a lot of the time.
>Lol Chernobyl happened because it was sealed completely and left to cook till it popped like a pressure cooker bomb.
No, Chernobyl exploded because it went promptly critical and all the water boiled at once. It wasn't contained at all besides the lead reactor cap, one of the weaknesses of the Chernobyl design was the complete lack of a containment building.
>one of the weaknesses of the Chernobyl design was the complete lack of a containment building.
Chernobyl reactor explosion was estimated to have around 200 tons of TNT equivalent. Containment building ain't gonna stop such.
it still makes a difference if it goes boom abd all the stuff is thrown into the atmosphere or it goes boom and wrecks the containment building.
Usually I would say that's not an issue with reactor sarcophagus being build to withstand the resulting hydrogen explosion, with it being an old soviet design well who knows they certainly don't.
>Were the troops in Chernobyl chemical troops?
At least some of them. The dumbass who picked up the cobalt 60 was a CBRN soldier.
Here's the nyt article:
https://archive(dot)ph/54nnO
Who is that mouse girl
>Thinks mines in a reactor will do anything.
Remember what I said earlier about you not understanding nuclear energy production?
>I don't understand how nuclear energy production works.
I will say it's questionable that they put the detonate button next to the make power button on those dang reactors!
>Trained chemical troops
>Earth work in the "Red Forest" was not the only reckless act of the invaders in the exclusion zone. Experts are aware of a case in which a Russian soldier picked up a source of radioactive Cobalt-60 with his bare hands from a nuclear waste depot, exposing himself to incredible radiation exposure. What happened to the man is unknown.
>What happened to the man is unknown
If the story is true then you know what happened.
>carried around standard cobalt-60 source
That homie is glowing brighter than the sun, at least he used to.
>chemical troops
>trained
You should really look up into who is at the Zaporozhe NPP.
We really should hope their ability to rig explosives is as advanced as the rest of their cognitive processes.
isn't that the pigfaced hamplanet lmfao
Pure fantasy on your part, dude. You'd want to use an incredibly large amount of nerve gas but by the time the garrison realized what was happening they'd already be seizing their bones to powder.
>Russian chemical troops, specifically trained and equipped to deal with chemical attacks,
Is this anything like the Russian Navy sailors specifically trained and equipped to shoot down missiles headed at them, or more like the Russian Army troops trained on BUK antiaircraft missile systems to not shoot down civilian airliners?
>the Russian Army troops trained on BUK antiaircraft missile systems to not shoot down civilian airliners?
It's been like 10 years and I'm STILL not sure if that was incompetence or malice.
At least 9 of those specialists are already out of commission.
the Russian chemical troops, specifically trained and equipped to deal with chemical attacks, who have their finger on the detonator of a nuclear reactor... with chemical weapons
Lol, these are Vatniks we are talking about, remember, not Canadian private security.
>Ricky my muscles feel funny
>detonator of a nuclear reactor
>What's the appropriate *military* response to this frickery.
Chemical weapons attack. Less chance of radiological disaster, high kill rate if you have balls and supersaturate.
Point and laugh. They won't do shit.
This. God puccia is pathetic. Its almost getting disappointing now...
the usa that supports using tax dollars to prop up lgbt propaganda for kids
or the russian christians?
>russian
>christians
The worst part is you don't even realize how absurdly wrong you are.
The Russian """Orthodox Church""" - if you can even call it that - has been an FSB (formerly KGB's) front for nearly 100 years at this point. Its entire reason for continued existence is to keep the Russian population pacified through promises of eternal paradise in heaven while their leadership on earth robs them blind and forces them to live in a third-world shithole.
>t: Taras Europeanenko
Regretfully, I must inform you that naming your paramilitary unit "Kraken" and adding music from a TV-series about vikings to their promotional is not a sufficient condition to become prosperous.
>no counterargument
>no counterargument.
The Russian "Orthodox" Church was a den of heresy since its inception and then became a communist state cult.
But enough talk of things that are both obvious and not weapons.
Let's talk about weapons. Explosions in particular.
An average containment building (the outermost layer of the reactor) can resist up to 550 kPa.
Isn't the explosion of even a mid-sized ammo depot going to completely overmatch this?
Haha, yes!! Am Charles Whisky from American California oblast and you showed him what is business!! Good argument!!!
Cope!! If you don't and respond to his derailing then you did not win..!
>GDP PPP
Literally a meme stat made for the third world shitholes so they don't feel so bad about their "economy".
Good luck actually buying something with your PPP-rubble.
You can live without iPhones.
But right now, food in Russia is more expensive than in Europe. In absolute terms as well.
Why does Kirill wear $30,000 dollar watches? How much money did he making smuggling contraband into Russia through the church in the 1990s?
>Taras
this comes from the aids infested shitting-in-the-backyard Russoid homosexual who did nothing but copy paste and consume Western culture for three decades
Now do church attendance rates in Russia versus Ukraine.
You mean the ones that had state mandated atheism for almost a century? The ones that invade countries to de-nazify them?
If the day ends with a “y”, Russians are lying
Nice fanfic homosexual
This whole talk about Nazis etc. Are russians really, seriously this delusional/brainwashed or is this some kind of an act?
>Nazi = Opposes Russia
They are kind of like leftist when it comes to their arguments
Let me guess. It's one of those "Ukraine claims that" stories.
> It's one of those "Ukraine claims that" stories.
Which were proven to be true like 90% of the time.
>chernobyl will explode
>ghost of kiev
>snake island
>kharkiv university will explode
>african mercenaries
>russia will drop a nuke
>russia is using chemical weapons
>russia is running out of missiles
>russia is running out of shells
>kherson offensive
>korean mercenaries
NOOOOOO THOSE DON'T COUNT!!!!!!!!!
Kek I love it when Russians say [thing] and then, when it doesn't happen, they say OTHER PEOPLE were wrong when they said [thing]
Don't be tedious. Clearly Russia, Ukraine, and the US and other NATO and EU government and media are all lying their asses off, which is pretty normal for a war.
You're trying to manage morale, you're trying to maintain domestic support, you're trying to hold alliances together, you're trying to confuse and demoralize the other side, and you're trying to protect the warmongers, profiteers, and lying bastards from their much-deserved public outrage and due punishment. War is propaganda prime time.
Comparable to 'The USA has SLAV-DIE virus ready to wipe out Russians in Ukraine' and 'The Ukrainians are using black magic' and 'The Ukrainians have super soldiers'... Wait, no it isn't. Russia is running out of shells. Russia is running out of missiles. At the start of the war, Russia was doing 200-300 missile strikes a day. They're now doing like 10. Running out =! Run out. Why is this difficult for people?
literally all but 4 of those happened.
island
wdym? ukraine captured it lol
He's referring to the initial assumption that all the servicemen died for saying "Russian warship go frick yourself", but actually only some of them died. Basically they're arguing that they don't rape babies, cut off people's dicks, put POW heads on spikes, or blow up a bomb inside a prisoner of war camp while the captured soldiers were sleeping, burning them alive, because on day 2 they didn't literally execute every single person they came into contact with (as initially and rightfully feared).
cheers anon, navigating the mind of a vatnik is not an easy task.
All of them happened with one or two waiting to happen. Especially the Ghost of Kyiv considering how russians ran away from entire northern front and now they hide in their african tier commie colonies.
>chernobyl will explode
This was never claimed
>ghost of kiev
Rent fricking free lmao
>snake island
happened
>kharkiv university will explode
don't know about this one, but quite few russian universities spontaneously combusted
>african mercenaries
announced by the russan media
>russia will drop a nuke
MUH NOOOKS
>russia is using chemical weapons
never claimed
>russia is running out of missiles
*precision missiles, you guys always forget that part for some reason...
>russia is running out of shells
they are
>kherson offensive
currently underway
>korean mercenaries
current thing™, we will have to see how that works out lol
is using chemical weapons
>never claimed
not him but lol
>LOL le "kherson offensive"
>w-wait, if you come any closer we'll blow all of us up!
Pidorashka
Black person what? They're constantly being caught out in lies. These two nations fighting both understand the importance of spamming propaganda to gullible idiots online. You can't really be too distrustful of anything coming out of Ukraine or Russia atm.
Like what?
it's pro russian telegram channel
It's the speech of a Putinist officer reported by both Russian and Putinist media.
then you should be able to easily provide a russian media source citing this speech, right?
If it's real? Immediate mobilization of every spec ops unit within flying distance to make sure that by the end of the week that power plant has a fresh coat of russian brain paint for the floors and walls.
It would cause a radiation cloud to reach Europe and trigger article 5, as explicitly stated.
NATO isn't even needed though. Poland and any eastern European country would unilaterally join the war on the side of Ukraine.
>It would cause a radiation cloud to reach Europe and trigger article 5, as explicitly stated.
source on that?
The Poles said it a few months ago. I can't find the article though.
I hope they blow it up, so we can finally intervene.
I highly doubt they'll blow up the nuclear plant.
>I highly doubt Russia will actually invade
>I highly doubt that Russia is shelling civillians
>I highly doubt Russia is raping and killing children and women
Every time you think Russia isn't stupid enough to do something, they will do it.
Heavy shelling with VX nerve gas.
"You all understand that there is a war going on for the right of existence of the Russian people. For our right to live in peace and harmony with everyone"
The Russian cries out in pain as he strikes you.
Maybe the world doesn't need russians after all. Nogs and chinks at least shit up for the most part their own country and not everyone in vicinity
I think it's time that Russian garrison had an "accident".
>blowout soon fellow stalker
>literally coming soon
what a time to be alive..
It's pretty clear at this point that whatever happens in this world, happens with NATO's consent
>What's the appropriate *military* response to this frickery.
The same as any other act of terorism
>if Russia doesn't get to spread communism and beat out those MEAN OLD NAZIS THAT TOALLY EXIST, we will nuke the shit out of this slavic shithole and blame the west for it
lmao are they serious? This is insane.
Art 5.
Blowing up a reactor, or someone using that was a way to negotiate isn't different from someone using a WMD to perform terrorism. You do not negotiate with terrorists, or else they will keep threatening so they can get more and more.
The only appropriate response is intervention, even if it is riskful.
These morons understand the prevailing winds blow west to east, right?
They dont give a frick. Vatniks have had nuclear oopsies ever since their first reactor which was a complete open cycle: coolant water was pumped straight through the reactor and back into the lake they pulled it from.
Plus they are very sparsely populated: their total pop is less then Bangladesh with 80% living west of the Urals and out of that, majority concentrated in the muscovite and Petersburg hives. Chances are most of that radioactive fallout will be thrown across the empty steppes and the few babuskhas that get radiated are not from Moscow or Petersburg so they can eat shit and die.
Moscow's pretty close to the plant though
Yeah but northwards. Dominant winds are west to east so straight towards Rostov-Volgograd.
>Complete open cycle
How can they be that unbelievably dumb
genes
Lake Karachay and Lake Kyzyltash are nasty nasty places these days
Jesus fricking christ
alas, I have been baited
>4.5 exabecquerels
>exabecquerels
not becquerels
not kilobecquerels
not megabecquerels
not gigabecquerels
not even terabecquerels
exabecquerels
What the actual frick
you forgot peta after tera
frick I knew I was missing one
russiods are a stain on the planet
>6 Severs an hour
This is damn near the level of Chernobyl spicy rocks, russians are definitely something else, hell norks are more human, barely
They werent that dumb, its just that stalin ordered to make nukes and if you dont you get a piece of hot uranium shoved up your urethra in the gulag, the project managers did an open cycle to avoid that because when its you or them you will be irradiating some bumfrick villagers that can barely read in a heartbeat
>all this at just ONE facility
bro
Just put a few of these and set them to blow east.
They always pull this tough guy shit when they're scared. The more scared they are the tougher they talk.
Even if it's not just talk I don't give a shit.
One more reason for every Russian to be exterminated like the plague that they are. If we can't purge the Earth of the disease then we aren't fit to live anyway.
>they literally did Chernobyl
What do you mean "did chernobyl"? That theyincompetently built and managed a nuclear reactor?
Lol. I'm starting to like the rooskeys.
You like that they are shrieking, hysterical troons constantly crying about muh nazis? One of the most feminine nations on Earth.
If they actually do it? Immediate, all-out nuclear attack.
Nuclear plants are going to become increasingly needed as fossil fuels are used up, we can't allow them to be used as hostages. Anyone that tries has to be totally annihilated no matter the repercussions.
>As fossil fuels are used up
Don't fall for that meme. Supply issues are wholly man-made. You can't even fathom just how much oil is under ground that governments of various nations have deemed illegal to access.
Soon.
Realistically this will probably end the same way their Red Forest trenches did: conscripts will start to die in droves and their commanders will freak the frick out when they realize they've all been exposed to radiation, then they'll run the frick away and make some shit up about how it's a "gesture of goodwill" to Ukraine.
stop help going to ukraine for obvious false flag?
Try again Ivan
stop help for ukraine and help russians eradicate the lying ukrainians for very obvious false flag?
I don't think you understand what the term false flag means.
I am ready for Cut-Price Chernobyl.
>You all understand that there is a war going on for the right of existence of the Russian people. For our right to live in peace and harmony with everyone
Just what exactly is wrong with Russians?
Brain damage from years of alcohol abuse and beatings. I bet if you did a scan of their brains it would look like Swiss cheese.
That's in additional to severe generation trauma from wars and dictatorships.
>I bet if you did a scan of their brains it would look like Swiss cheese.
They've got the holes for it.
Russago delenda est.
>What's the appropriate *military* response to this frickery
the complete eradication of slavic ethnicity across the face of the earth
hunt them all down
The last version of "Russia" that was slavic was Kievan Rus, possibly the early Novogorod republic before it started getting too much Tver and Muscovite influence.
Nooks, unironically
I'm almost surprised to see /k/ is as anti-Russian as it is. You go on /misc/ and all you see is vatniks shilling and shitting up the entire board.
We have had a long time to get used to their shills, and making fun of Russian failures and pointless propaganda have been a great pastime the last few years.
Also armatard helped make sure vatniks are forever hated.
armatard? There a story here?
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=armatard
Originally armatards was short for Armata morons, Armata being a newish russian tank, there was some vatnik schizo living in the US/Canada who samegayged and shilled so hard for the thing posters thought hemust be a whole bunch of people, eventually everyone figured out how 90% of all the armatards posts were by the same guy who did nothing but shilling russian shit on /k/, so he got the name. There is a whole rabbithole to go down to, but that's really all you need to know about him: shills Russia like a mad man, tries to hide who he is and make the impression a lot of people share his screwed opinions.
There's also the fact that /k/ is about the hardware, first and foremost. If a nation talks up it's gear, and then that gear falls apart (if/when it even materialises), it's going to get roundly mocked, regardless of that nation's moral standing.
The fact that Russia doesn't have any kind of moral standing in this conflict is just fuel on an already roaring fire.
>There is a war going on for the right of russian people to exist
Noone was denying Russians the right to live in their shithole, just keep it there
>Our right to live in peace and harmony with everyone
Gif related
NATO's weak response to this war so far is causing Russia to plunge deeper into their propaganda delusions and this is only the start.
This fricking around with nuclear powerplants no matter if the threat is real or not is an ultimatum that must be met with an ultimatum: Pause all trade with Russia including gas and oil completely, right now, until they demilitarize the powerplants. It'll hurt the economy, but that is nothing compared to allowing Russia (or anyone for that matter) to threathen an entire continent with nuclear disaster during an active conflict. Give them a 2 weeks to remove everything from the facility or be met with a military response from NATO.
Unironically, a nuclear response. Preferably on Ukranian soil so it doesn't immediately start WW3, but hitting a Russian army depot with a tactical nuke would get the message across that if Russia fricks around, they'll find out.
No, on second thought, my captcha has a better plan.
I don't see how rapping is going to solve anything. How hot are your rhymes?
The machine knows what it wants
I think it's time for Russia to have an unfortunate smoking accident at a nuclear plant.
Nooo it's the Ukrainians who are trying to frick up the power station actually, I saw it on Vatnik Twitter!
Look at the desperate glavset hooker begging for people to be scared.
Ukraine shoots this nuclear plant, how is that a Russian problem?
You mean just like how they shot down that airliner?
How do you know a Russian lies? It speaks.
The artillery they're hiding there is irreplaceable, pidorashka.
And all this wouldn't happen if you didn't frick with us. Now you are learning Russian people are not b***hes. There will be more lessons like this, until you understand.
But you are b***hes. Cykas if you like.
>Get ass kicked
>"I-I'M GONNA KILL US ALL IF YOU DON'T STOP!!"
stop hitting yourself
stop hitting yourself
>Now you are learning Russian people are not b***hes.
Invading a country, failing your invasion, and then blowing up a nuclear power plant to salt the land you failed to take is the very definition of being a little b***h.
Sure look like b***hes to me lol. Homeless b***hes even.
Hol' up... were Russians just gypsies all along?
If you want a nuclear holocaust I'm fine with that if it means you don't get what you want.
>do absolutely nothing
>I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF IF YOU KEEP FRICKING WITH ME
I literally can't think o bigger collection of b***hes in history than the Russian people. A whole country of serfs and slaves.
... vatniks are not b***hes.
Lol. You are much worse than that - a bunch of buck broken alcoholic serfs that adore the boot eternally stomping on them too cowardly to rebel whilst pathologically envying those that do.
If you're going to do it, fricking do it already. Bored of Russian chest beating and posing
>W-We'll nuke you this time! F-f-for real! W-we swear!
>there is a war going on for the right of the existence of the Russian people
Unironically surprise nuclear first strike on Vatnikstan itself. Exterminates the vermin by its roots while also making the eastern steppes a exclusion zone which no invader from the east can use comfortably for quite a while. The ones at the NPP can allahu akbar themselves with the plant or run to the winds trying to find out what happened to their rotting huts and orc hatchlings back home. Most regular grunts will go awol and run away.
Best part with how shit russhits have turned out to be they really do not believe that the west is capable of all out attacking them before. That plus their ancient equipment and hypercentralized (slow) command structure means that the west could get away with total nuclear bombardment with very little if any counter blows. All land based mobile platforms are constantly tracked, all subs have tails on them, all silos are known and accounted for, all medium range stuff they have will be atomized as they are generally by regular military installations that will get targeted anyway.
I'm guessing that is camouflage netting but knowing puccians it wouldn't surprise me if that was some kind of aggressive algae growing on that missile.
That brown shit isn't part of the netting. It's definitely something growing on there or straight up rust
>All land based mobile platforms are constantly tracked, all subs have tails on them, all silos are known and accounted for
Is what the neocohens tell themselves to sleep at night, they say the same thing about China whilst denying it could possibly be the case the other way around.
>inb4 VaTBlack person sHiLl
Frick Putin, Frick Biden, Frick Xi, frick em all
the strongest chemical weapons available
Aren't there special forces that gets activated just for situations like this (rogue takeover nuke plant/potential nuke threat)?
I recall hearing about some type of special rapid reaction force like that years back. Was that just larping/what-if wargaming?
The Department of Energy has hardcore operator teams, yes, though they're more of a counterterror unit intended for domestic use. Canada has something similar.
So what you are saying is that we need to gather a group of rude dudes with attitudes that are bad enough to secure a nuclear power plant on hostile soil.
And remember to bring a film crew as well, so we can sell it as the hot summer blockbuster of 2023
This is exactly the problem humanitarian groups have when working with Black folk. They either want the water well for themselves or will destroy it if they have to share it.
It's not, these are the tard fantasies you use to justify your hick frick bullshit while continuing your parasite lifestyle.
>They will have to invent a new word to describe how fricking ready I am
>using a notebook for radioactive reagent handling in the lab enviroment
ISHYGDDT
>Lab
b***h I'm a field technician in nuclear reactors
>What's the appropriate *military* response to this frickery.
This is how you get NATO direct intervention, and by messing with WMD, with china blessing, because if the radiation blows to the west that's a direct attack on NATO
>war
It is a special operation! I hope that is a translation error!
>VVER designed in 1960s alongside infamous RBMK
>5 of 6 reactors on ZNPP started when commies were still around
The russians like to talk big, I'll believe it when they actually blow it up.
>they literally did Chernobyl, Kyshtym, not to mention 4-5 submarine reactor incidents
Yeah, because Russians are two things:
>grossly incompetent at operating all forms of post-Industrial Revolution equipment, even the most rudimentary and simple ones
>incapable of admitting their own mistakes and deciding to keep going further to frick it all up even worse entirely to try and salvage their tattered pride
The appropriate response is to laugh at their non-functional ICBMs and glass Moscow when they roll out their moronic 1950s nuke trucks and airplane bombers, which are the only parts of their nuclear arsenal that likely still function after all this time. They won't do shit, and if they do they'll fail spectacularly. A nuclear response is the last action Russia would ever make before being wiped from the face of the earth in its entirety.
Those Black folk literally dumped a nuclear reactor in the arctic sea when it malfunctioned on icebreaker Lenin
Exactly, they're not competent. I'd say there's a greater chance of the Russians leaking lethal radiation across their populated western regions than of actually managing to nuke anything important.
I said this before, if the russians even have nukes, they're more likey to blow up on russian soil than do anything important. I hope there's no silos in st petersberg.
Why St Petersburg specifically?
I meant moscow, but seeing these threads 24/7 fried my brain
>scorched desert
Russian education at its finest, all nuclear accidents resulted in renewal of greenery since there was nothing to defoliate the area as humans left. Actual nuked cities in japan were being rebuilt just 2 years after being nuked, with people living in the soon after.
>muh nukes
>muh radiation
please guys try and verify the sources
https://zp-news.ru/other/2022/08/08/14127.html
its a fake
fake
https://twitter.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1556601630786822145
Well it makes sense that it's fake, not even russians are that dumb.
Nice to see even Germans have started calling him out and wising up to "Russia denies".
>Germany starts talking about reopening their nuclear facilities
>Vatniks start talking about blowing up nuclear facilities
Reallly makes you think.
They will not do anything, Russia knows that any radioactive fallout that would reach a NATO country would provoke it into direct intervention. It's the same reason why they haven't used any chemical weapons, they don't want VX or Sarin to accidentally travel to Poland or Romania, otherwise they would have used them by now.
I once joked about Putin wanting to commit large scale human sacrifice to please some dark god, but with every passing month, it gets less funny and more real. I mean, it almost feels intentional, doesn't it?
Don't be silly, there are no black oligarchs, especially in rossyia.
when it gets to be that time. surround them. starve them out.
>What's the appropriate *military* response to this frickery.
Ignore it.
Unless you can punish the decision makers directly they won't give a frick about anything that you do and torturing the people that you CAN catch out of impotent rage is monke tier.
Just win the war quick and clean and you don't have to care about it any more.
Russia is a not a real country and should be divided up. Dibs on whatever part has least russians.
>as you know we have mined all the important facilities of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant
Relax you Black folk. Unlike World Trade Center, the reactor dome is actually made to "stopping a crashing airliner" safety standards.
Conventional weapons won't do a shit.
Pic related, cross section of a small part of reactor cover
Damn imagine how heavy a single inch length of of that rebar would be
1. soviet reactors are not korean ones
2. this is ammo and weapons inside of a reactor, not outside
Inside the reactor , You say? Maybe the fricking general Dvornikov is sunbathing inside, too?
Without such fearmongering Russskies are beyond worthless. Let the homosexuals try and blow it up, then see what happens.
A crashing airliner has only the tiniest fraction of the energy released when an ammo dump goes up
This sounds like a stronghold speech from Dawn of War, what the hell?
Lol vatBlack person b***h at this point I hope you morons actually do something but I know you won't.
Meant for
I visited russia once and it is not a real country. Nice woods but they are part of chinese empire.
>literally terrorist tactics
You don't negotiate with terrorists. Bomb the power plant.
>Russian generals claim
>Russian propagandist claim
>Strelkov claims
5 months later, you keep falling for the obvious doombait.
neutron bomb. kill the soldiers, leave no infrastructure damage.
Just let them blow it up since the wind blows to the east anyways so its russians that get cucked, and Ukrainians will get even more support because eurocucks, especially germans will have to declare russia as a terrorist state because muh nuclear disasters.
They wont do shit
>You all understand there is a war going on for the right of existence of the Russian people.
I had no idea, why are they wasting troops invading foreign countries if they're under such a threat?
/k/ - theology