>are the ak47s okay?
Almost certainly, the US likes to keep around seized weapons to send to whoever wants some manky old AKs and RPG-7s.
Which is a lot of people really.
I thought they're ditching it to standardize on 5.56 for the western gibs or 5.45 when necessary. There was that one boomer posting about how he had to bring his own 7.62 mags because there's a shortage ak47/akm stuff. If that shit gets warehoused and then sold as parts kits in a few years that'd be cool though.
Someone is probably going to embarrass me by pointing out some obvious tell in the photo but I wouldn't trust the media to differentiate between an AK-47, AKM or AK-74
It's wikipedia but a quick look seems to show no 5.45 just 7.62 and 5.56 as thier military rifles. Also if iran is selling mostly to local middle eastern areas or africa then it'll make sense why they keep making 7.62
>Someone is probably going to embarrass me by pointing out some obvious tell in the photo
I'll do you one better, watch this and learn the differences yourself
>Every "news outlet" who can't distinguish between an AK-47 and an AKM needs to be brutally sodomized
The fricking idiots could just call it a kalashnikov, but they insist on using "le spoopy designation" and get it wrong.
Fricking r*ddit tourist.
UMMM WHY DONT THEY JUST CALL THEM ARMALITE RIFLES???? STURPID MEDIADUMS
Fricking have a nice day. Being this autistic about the semantics of what 2000 guns are called is moronic. The idea is to get the information across to the reader of the article as easily as possible. Listing every single variation of the rifle platform that was seized is fricking moronic, especially when you can guaran-fricking-tee that the media release from the US navy itself probably listed them all as "ak-47s" for ease of communication. This board is just full of fricking homosexuals, I swear to god
no, you fricking have a nice day. listing every single variation of rifle seized is educational at the very least. there are plenty of homosexuals on this board, but the worst ones are morons like you
No, it's like calling an M16A4 an M16A1, or like calling Vietnam "Indochina"
It's a newer, different version of the same gun, not a completely different platform.
It's a different cartridge with a different (albeit quite similar) gas system and bolt carrier group. The differences aren't huge but they're not insignificant. These are ak74's of some variety btw, not akm/ak47's (they're almost certainly aks-74u)
I thought they're ditching it to standardize on 5.56 for the western gibs or 5.45 when necessary. There was that one boomer posting about how he had to bring his own 7.62 mags because there's a shortage ak47/akm stuff. If that shit gets warehoused and then sold as parts kits in a few years that'd be cool though.
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Someone is probably going to embarrass me by pointing out some obvious tell in the photo but I wouldn't trust the media to differentiate between an AK-47, AKM or AK-74
You really think it’s important to differentiate them? The media doesn’t give a shit about the facts. They straight up lied about Covid, the vaccines, everything. If you read an article and think that’s what happened you are the problem.
>They probably don’t give shit to volunteer units
Ukraine made a point that they hand out a rifle and 400 rounds to anybody who shows up. That said, the 400 rounds might be woefully inadequate depending on how long (or if ever) resupply is, but there's also probably plenty of Territorial Guard types who will genuinely never use the 30 rounds in their mag because their job is to stare down the potato farmer
While that’s the pre was direction, I don’t think Ukraine is being picky with weapon systems anymore. It’ll probably go to territorial defense forces inorder to get more desired weapons and ammo to their primary combatant forces.
>It’ll probably go to territorial defense forces inorder to get more desired weapons and ammo to their primary combatant forces
Every time I see official videos, their guys have gucci gear but every time I see frontline footage that's more organic, there's AKs for days.
No, they actually planted gps trackers on them. They just died before they were able to get anything useful out of it. So they say, anyway. It makes absolutely no sense for the CIA to give Mexican cartels guns for free regularly or at all, but /misc/nigs think the CIA is comic book tier villains on the level of the legion of doom
>by the CIA and sent to cartels in Mexico.
The US gov already tried that with Fast and Furious, the cartels get most of their from the central american border or they manufacture their own.
Did you guys know that Yemen has the second most armed citizenry on earth behind the United States?
It's not even close either, the US has about 120 guns per 100 citizens, Yemen has about 60, the slightly more bearable Europoor countries are between 20 and 30 and statistically everyone else on earth is noguns
Natural selection. Immediate confirmation of why you should or shouldnt do certain things. >"I told ahkchmed to keep his bugger flicker off the boom switch but he didnt and las alah took him, no 72 virgins for him, and that son is why you must do as i say and never put your finger on ze trigger until you are ready to shoot and be aware of your target and what is behind it/not point it at anything you dont want to destroy."
Natural selection. Immediate confirmation of why you should or shouldnt do certain things. >"I told ahkchmed to keep his bugger flicker off the boom switch but he didnt and las alah took him, no 72 virgins for him, and that son is why you must do as i say and never put your finger on ze trigger until you are ready to shoot and be aware of your target and what is behind it/not point it at anything you dont want to destroy."
From that pic alone it looks like raghead trigger discipline is actually a thing, and it involves putting your index finger inside the trigger guard, BEHIND the trigger, making it impossible to depress
>are the ak47s okay?
Almost certainly, the US likes to keep around seized weapons to send to whoever wants some manky old AKs and RPG-7s.
Which is a lot of people really.
The people that think strongman governments abroad are only unstable shotholes because muh GLOWIES are the same morons that rail against strong federal government in the states. The cognitive dissonance is unreal
You do realize that the counterpoint of your own fricking post is that you think the US government needs to be more brutal and oppressive towards its citizens
It isn't at all, but thanks for proving my point by completely failing to understand how moronic it is to believe strongman governments abroad are all fine and dandy as long as the CIA doesn't get involved, but strongman governments at home are doomed to fail as unstable, oppressive shit holes. The point is that despotic regimes failing for any number of reasons always gets blamed on the CIA despite despotic regimes inherently existing on shaky grounds at best.
Okay. But artificially propping up a rebellion or civil war does not improve the situation at all. It makes it worse and creates a power vacuum where many factions fight for power. We knock down governments with no clue on what to do afterwards. Look at Afghanistan and read the reports of people with first hand knowledge and zero stake in the situation. Shit was fricked, the government we installed was incredibly corrupt. The Taliban were way more interested in actually running the country and day to day affairs than our government.
>no idea what to do afterwards
You're not wrong about that. The real meta-play would have been to barter with the Taliban once we had satisfied ourselves with whatever it was we had done and then left. I don't think anyone thought the Taliban wouldn't ever come back, so I don't know why anyone bothered to pretend whatever happened after we left, be it in 15 years or 1, mattered at all
CIA is like some omnipresent force of nature or evil god to brown people.
They are somehow both gay trans incompetant and moronic but also control every single person on earth and are everywhere somehow.
>Why don't we go to war in Iran? They are a danger for world peace in the region
The USA is really bad at reconstruction these days, they pulled it off twice really well and thought they knew what they were doing but literally every attempt since has backfired.
An organic movement needs to arise that can be supported, trying to force-grow one doesn't seem to work out very well.
They have a movement right now but unless they get in the war-fighting mood, they can't hold a state and if they can't hold it, there's no point invading just to give them one.
Ukraine is a much better model, let them show they want it bad enough and can fight for it, then prop them up with what's required in the minimum quantities necessary. It'll be more stable in the long run.
I wonder about Afghanistan because it seemed MORE meta-stable in 2000 than it was in 2020
Like, the Northern Alliance were holding 40% of the country and were very slowly being inched back by the Taliban 1v1 over a decade, but the ANA were allegedly the same guys as the Northern Alliance and the Taliban basically decapitated their entire nation in a week
Would the ANA have lasted longer if we had just culled every Tali that stuck his head up, taken Kabul, given it to the ANA immediately and then fricked off by the beginning of 2002?
>Like, the Northern Alliance were holding 40% of the country and were very slowly being inched back by the Taliban 1v1 over a decade, but the ANA were allegedly the same guys as the Northern Alliance and the Taliban basically decapitated their entire nation in a week
Could be a concentration-of-force effect.
If you're holding 60% of a pissed-off country, you have to garrison every town to keep them under control.
If you're holding no territory then you can knock over towns and cities one by one with the full weight of your army, come back and reconquer anything that flares up later when they're leaderless because you killed all the current crop of leaders and somewhat disarmed and completely disorganised.
>Would the ANA have lasted longer if we had just culled every Tali that stuck his head up, taken Kabul, given it to the ANA immediately and then fricked off by the beginning of 2002?
The US forced the Taliban into a guerilla organisation rather than a populist movement, you're still doing that which means they're still a force that the ANA is poorly equipped to fight. They could hold their own against an army better than an insurgency I think.
Partly because their style of rule is to terrorise a village and then come back and do it again if they didn't learn their lesson. That doesn't work when the Taliban torch another police station and just vanish and leave random villages to be terrorised by the "government", then come back and do it again but this time the villagers are cheering them on.
>Like, the Northern Alliance were holding 40% of the country and were very slowly being inched back by the Taliban 1v1 over a decade, but the ANA were allegedly the same guys as the Northern Alliance and the Taliban basically decapitated their entire nation in a week
Could be a concentration-of-force effect.
If you're holding 60% of a pissed-off country, you have to garrison every town to keep them under control.
If you're holding no territory then you can knock over towns and cities one by one with the full weight of your army, come back and reconquer anything that flares up later when they're leaderless because you killed all the current crop of leaders and somewhat disarmed and completely disorganised.
>Would the ANA have lasted longer if we had just culled every Tali that stuck his head up, taken Kabul, given it to the ANA immediately and then fricked off by the beginning of 2002?
The US forced the Taliban into a guerilla organisation rather than a populist movement, you're still doing that which means they're still a force that the ANA is poorly equipped to fight. They could hold their own against an army better than an insurgency I think.
Partly because their style of rule is to terrorise a village and then come back and do it again if they didn't learn their lesson. That doesn't work when the Taliban torch another police station and just vanish and leave random villages to be terrorised by the "government", then come back and do it again but this time the villagers are cheering them on.
The Northern Alliance was a bunch of different warlords, many of them enemies and rivals. The NATO-backed Kabul regime was the same thing. The relatives of politicians and the warlords were running most of the opium trade. The Afghan Taliban taxed existing poppy farmers in areas they controlled or contested, but they never grew or traded in it themselves.
Giving any power to the warlords and their allies, without NATO holding it together, would have just resulted in a civil war between them. That doesn't hurt AQ either, they would have thrived on it. The reason the Afghan Taliban formed in the first place was because of the ensuing civil war in the first half of the 1990s after the Soviets left. The IEA ended the civil war by taking most of the cities and the south/east.
There's violence now (from ISK and NRF) but its far less than during the US occupation, or during the first half of the 1990s. Any AQ activity in Afghanistan has been irrelevant since the mid 2010s. Since they couldn't implement Salafism, they and ISIS have focused on West Asia and Africa instead since the late 2000s and early 2010s.
The IEA also crushed most of ISK in the late 2010s whereas the former Kabul regime let them run wild, partly to blame their attacks on the Taliban and partly to keep the US staying longer in Afghanistan. The YPG/SDF is basically pulling the same shit in Northeast Syria but ISIS is not a viable threat in the north because you have rival Jihadists and SNA strongholds, Turkey, and even Iran, Russia and Assad.
>Would the ANA have lasted longer if we had just culled every Tali that stuck his head up, taken Kabul, given it to the ANA immediately and then fricked off by the beginning of 2002?
the ANA would have lasted longer if the US had given them the means to actually fight effectively instead of only giving the MRAPS and small arms with the understanding that they would always have US tanks, helicopters, air support and artillery. only to stab them in the back and leave in the middle of the night. Then blame them for not fighting hard enough despite you leaving them without air cover, arty, intel, MEDIVAC, QRF, any kind of armor and logistical support.
idk why anyone in the 3rd world would side with the US when they by past experience will stab you in the back and leave you to the commies/fundies as soon as they think doing so will win them a few votes.
of which they had like 5 and their ground crews and maintainers were western contractors who got evaced by the US leaving them without the ability to operate them effectively.
of which they had like 5 and their ground crews and maintainers were western contractors who got evaced by the US leaving them without the ability to operate them effectively.
no refunds
>the ANA
Was a money laundering operation on a grand scale and a completely combat ineffective force from top to bottom, which is why they completely melted away from the most basic resistance. If I was in Afghanistan I would have HELPED the Taliban in hunting down the few ANA loyalists and publicly executing them. >t.Marine who deployed alongside ANA
Tbf the US has failed at rebuilding nations that literally don't want to be rebuilt. Iraq and especially Afghanistan are practically iron age and they have no interest in modernizing. You can lead a horse to water and all that
Both Afghanistan and Iraq were pretty modern and secular for a while.
The Russians fricked one and Saddam fricked the other, or got the US to frick it by invading one of their oil suppliers.
O right, back in the 80's I think it was? I tend to forget that. Afghanistan was close to iran in those terms, but after the soviets did what they do, the Taliban took power in the vacuum and did what they do as well
>Afghanistan was close to iran in those terms, but after the soviets did what they do, the Taliban took power in the vacuum
More or less. picrel was Kabul 1972 though it's not exactly typical, those would have been middle or upper class girls in a good, safe suburb of Kabul (I think it was actually on a university campus).
The issue was that the Soviet invasion, Mujahideen, warlords and civil war all contributed to the country becoming a shithole, this made a lot of schools close down but the madrasas stayed open, more opened up with Saudi funds and Saudi missionary Imams to teach in them.
The US didn't help matters by sending in textbooks that emphasised war and militant Islam resisting communist decadence.
The result was a generation of pig-ignorant religious graduates who believed in god, guns and...genocide I guess. Make that Allah, AKs and atrocities.
Those are the Taliban, the word means "Students" and they mean Students of the Quran.
It's like if an entire generation grew up on bible-belt fundamentalism and then decided they had to take back the country from the democrats and trannies.
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>that one on the left
Woof
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>It's like if an entire generation grew up on bible-belt fundamentalism and then decided they had to take back the country from the democrats and trannies.
I hate this talking point, it's positively fricking reddit tier. There is no will nor justification in any major church in the US to start a guerilla campaign against the federal government.
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That's why it's a hypothetical here dude. Anon isn't literally saying the church wants to instigate a war, he's saying it's like they did and people actually took them up on it. Learn to read between the lines you autistic frick
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Southern Baptists are major.
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>I hate reality
Allah doesnt care about your feelings infidel
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Both Afghanistan and Iraq were pretty modern and secular for a while.
The Russians fricked one and Saddam fricked the other, or got the US to frick it by invading one of their oil suppliers.
No. Kabul was (relatively) secular and modern. Rural Helmand was just the same then as it is now. And in Kabul you had the interesting situation of rural boys being sent there to go to school and university, and really not fricking liking what they saw there. Before the soviets invaded there were significant riots by militant Islamic students, and a large number of straight up murders. It was a significant destabilising factor that led to the crises that caused the Soviets to feel they had to invade. Although being Russians, they were kinda looking for excuses to attack anyway.
Iran is doing a pretty good job of eating itself right now. The U.S. and a number of other powers are quietly helping them along from the shadows. Optimal strategery for the moment given how many resources are required elsewhere. Disassembling pussyia is paying large dividends in Iranistan in the meanwhile.
>all these midwits making having a hissy fit because the media used the wrong model designation for the rifles >Corrects them saying it's obviously an AKS-74U >fails to notice the bulge frontrunion
Yeah I saw that, I don't know of any guns that fit that description. Is it some kind of local Iranian variant or am I just outdated on my short AK info and the design was updated at some point? It's definitely not Serbian as those have 3 vents and the ones in the pic have 2
Yeah it’s some Molot RPK/AKS-74U hybrid monstrosity called the AKS-20U that’s intended for the civilian market. There’s also a Saiga AKS-74U clone that went into production recently, probably to get rich off Arabs/Pakis obsessed with the whole Krink status weapon thing.
More ICE agents, more immigration judges to clear cases and get people sent back quicker, and start really fricking over employers found to be hiring illegals, the majority of illegal aliens are people who overstayed visas so having the navy park a Ford class in the Rio Grande wouldn't do all that much
Businesses which hire illegals benefit from the War On Some Drugs destabilizing Latin America. Counterproductive policies ensure (especially morally appealing ones like incarcerations in corporate prisons) labor stays cheap at the bottom.
1. Yemen is an enemy of Saudi Arabia
2. We benefit enormously from supporting our regional allies in many ways
3. The Navy isn't really the best tool for securing a land border
4. Fricking over Iran is fun and serves them right
5. If you're really serious about doing something about immigration the thing to do is focus on what's pushing people out of their countries. Make those countries not shitholes, and mass immigration ends more or less. But that's probably too "leftist" a take for you.
oh frick off. the taco munchers don't do so bad on their own. they were doing alright until those shitbag soviets and our moronic glowBlack folk started getting involved down there.
You would have to convince (amongst others) most US car manufacturers to stop being competitive in order to do that, since the bulk of their production facilities are in northern Mexico
Or are you proposing that the border be closed, but only in one direction?
Its true, Northern Mexico is more economically integrated into the southern US than it is into the rest of Mexico
If you dont believe me, go bring up Google maps and count the highways running into the southern US, then compare that to the number heading to southern Mexico
Northern Mexico will probably be a US state by 2050
No one was saying there aren’t any manufacturing plants in Mexico. The midwit take comes from the snarky arrogance of “oh well you’ll just have to convince the auto manufacturers to move back to the US.” It’s that attitude of “once thing change they cannot change again.” “once the jobs are gone they’re gone” etc. It’s a rigid and moronic way of thinking that smacks of sophomore year political science talking points.
Shut the frick up and enjoy having your penis circumcised and not being able to afford college and medical bills. And dont forget keep paying your taxes, that West Bank concrete wall in Israel is expensive as frick. Israel is our greatest allied.
The amount of shit I had to go through to get a 74 and a krink built only to see the military seize these and presumably dump them into the ocean makes me big mad.
It's apparently a model made by Vepr called the VPO-158N-06 or the AKS-20U. Should've guessed as such since Vepr is known for producing rifles with bulged front trunnions and the lack of a 3rd vent ruled out Zastava
That's a reasonable question but the answer is pretty much that navies aren't pirates because they say so.
Maybe they might be enforcing either UN sanctions or have permission from the Yemeni government/regime.
It has the Bulgarian Krinkov type rear sight, Russian folding buttstock, a distinctive moulded handgrip, plastic fake wood furniture. What a weird gun. Much less obviously Iranian than the previous batch, the handgrip is better than the Africa beater quality of chinese export AKs.. Could be chinese or from chinese parts? Try to find that handgrip /k/. Could be CIA also.
>Aкc74y
Russian from Kalashnikov - Although these appear to have been new built yesterday with new chinese-ish flared moulded grip. Some sort of volume special deal?
It's good practice, it stops Saudis from building a navy to do it themselves which keeps them and everyone else in the region both dependant and unable to challenge the USA, and it fricks with Iran.
AK47s?
Really? Might as well be treated as trying to smuggle museum pieces than weapons at this point.
Someone is probably going to embarrass me by pointing out some obvious tell in the photo but I wouldn't trust the media to differentiate between an AK-47, AKM or AK-74
It's wikipedia but a quick look seems to show no 5.45 just 7.62 and 5.56 as thier military rifles. Also if iran is selling mostly to local middle eastern areas or africa then it'll make sense why they keep making 7.62
AK-47 have a much more angled stock and the rear receiver has a V cant instead of a flat base
>Someone is probably going to embarrass me by pointing out some obvious tell in the photo
I'll do you one better, watch this and learn the differences yourself
They're more than likely going by whatever the Navy told them and the Navy is probably generalizing because who the frick cares
They're pretty obviously aks-74u
Everyone who gets pedantic over the difference between an AK-47 and an AKM needs to be brutally sodomized
>Every "news outlet" who can't distinguish between an AK-47 and an AKM needs to be brutally sodomized
The fricking idiots could just call it a kalashnikov, but they insist on using "le spoopy designation" and get it wrong.
Fricking r*ddit tourist.
I'm going to shove a rifle up your ass and if you can't tell me which one it is I'll pull the trigger
I bet you cry when someone posts a picture with his finger on the trigger too, you autistic homosexual
Not him but I kind of like it. They're all the more likely to shoot themselves or others
UMMM WHY DONT THEY JUST CALL THEM ARMALITE RIFLES???? STURPID MEDIADUMS
Fricking have a nice day. Being this autistic about the semantics of what 2000 guns are called is moronic. The idea is to get the information across to the reader of the article as easily as possible. Listing every single variation of the rifle platform that was seized is fricking moronic, especially when you can guaran-fricking-tee that the media release from the US navy itself probably listed them all as "ak-47s" for ease of communication. This board is just full of fricking homosexuals, I swear to god
no, you fricking have a nice day. listing every single variation of rifle seized is educational at the very least. there are plenty of homosexuals on this board, but the worst ones are morons like you
Most parts of the English speaking world call them kalishnakovs in parlance
Except it's niether. It's like calling an aug an ar15
No, it's like calling an M16A4 an M16A1, or like calling Vietnam "Indochina"
It's a newer, different version of the same gun, not a completely different platform.
It's a different cartridge with a different (albeit quite similar) gas system and bolt carrier group. The differences aren't huge but they're not insignificant. These are ak74's of some variety btw, not akm/ak47's (they're almost certainly aks-74u)
go back
>museum pieces
Stand in front of one while a magdump one in your chest.
A 1000 year old sword can still kill you if properly maintained. It's a gun, not a computer.
They go in the shredder or get snatched up by the CIA and sent to cartels in Mexico.
They probably will be sent to Ukraine. Ukraine has been getting captured iranian supplies in the entire war.
I thought they're ditching it to standardize on 5.56 for the western gibs or 5.45 when necessary. There was that one boomer posting about how he had to bring his own 7.62 mags because there's a shortage ak47/akm stuff. If that shit gets warehoused and then sold as parts kits in a few years that'd be cool though.
They probably don’t give shit to volunteer units
You really think it’s important to differentiate them? The media doesn’t give a shit about the facts. They straight up lied about Covid, the vaccines, everything. If you read an article and think that’s what happened you are the problem.
>They probably don’t give shit to volunteer units
Ukraine made a point that they hand out a rifle and 400 rounds to anybody who shows up. That said, the 400 rounds might be woefully inadequate depending on how long (or if ever) resupply is, but there's also probably plenty of Territorial Guard types who will genuinely never use the 30 rounds in their mag because their job is to stare down the potato farmer
While that’s the pre was direction, I don’t think Ukraine is being picky with weapon systems anymore. It’ll probably go to territorial defense forces inorder to get more desired weapons and ammo to their primary combatant forces.
>It’ll probably go to territorial defense forces inorder to get more desired weapons and ammo to their primary combatant forces
Every time I see official videos, their guys have gucci gear but every time I see frontline footage that's more organic, there's AKs for days.
Iran Contra 2.0
>sent to cartels in Mexico
They tried that gps thing awhile ago, I doubt they'll try it again.
>They tried that gps thing awhile ago, I doubt they'll try it again.
What GPS? There was no GPS.
The feds were just giving away guns to Mexican cartels and the bullshit excuse was "we're trying to track who uses them".
No, they actually planted gps trackers on them. They just died before they were able to get anything useful out of it. So they say, anyway. It makes absolutely no sense for the CIA to give Mexican cartels guns for free regularly or at all, but /misc/nigs think the CIA is comic book tier villains on the level of the legion of doom
the trackers didn't die. they were removed
>pol/nigs think the CIA is comic book tier villains on the level of the legion of doom
They are though. Just less competent.
>CIA is legion of doom but incompetent
>CIA is also so competent they orchestrate every Current Thing® across the globe
Yea
>by the CIA and sent to cartels in Mexico.
The US gov already tried that with Fast and Furious, the cartels get most of their from the central american border or they manufacture their own.
Lol, they still traffick a huge amount from the US. Same with Canada.
(You) misspelled Operation Wide Receiver. It was later renamed.
>The virgin lost 3 AKs in a boating incident
>The chad gained 2000 AKs in a boating incident
jej imagine being the cucked iranian navy
You're unzipped there, purp
new 'jak just dropped
Did you guys know that Yemen has the second most armed citizenry on earth behind the United States?
It's not even close either, the US has about 120 guns per 100 citizens, Yemen has about 60, the slightly more bearable Europoor countries are between 20 and 30 and statistically everyone else on earth is noguns
Uneducated people gathered in one place, with loaded guns pointed at the sky.
Whatcouldgowrong.jpg
seethe shlomo
Natural selection. Immediate confirmation of why you should or shouldnt do certain things.
>"I told ahkchmed to keep his bugger flicker off the boom switch but he didnt and las alah took him, no 72 virgins for him, and that son is why you must do as i say and never put your finger on ze trigger until you are ready to shoot and be aware of your target and what is behind it/not point it at anything you dont want to destroy."
>Whatcouldgowrong.jpg
Yemen has less school and random public shooting than US tbqh
>Uneducated people
how I can tell you're a cretin
From that pic alone it looks like raghead trigger discipline is actually a thing, and it involves putting your index finger inside the trigger guard, BEHIND the trigger, making it impossible to depress
>tfw everyone got an AK but me
>TFW only in 3rd world
AK47S
FOR EVERYONE
>are the ak47s okay?
Almost certainly, the US likes to keep around seized weapons to send to whoever wants some manky old AKs and RPG-7s.
Which is a lot of people really.
Frick.
Knew I should have gone with UPS.
Those were UPS since theyre ultra antigun.
Don't worry, FedEx is still the progun smuggling king
Why don't we go to war in Iran? They are a danger for world peace in the region
I wonder who destabilized Iraq, Libya, Syria, spent trillions propping up a failed regime in Afghanistan
>I wonder who destabilized Iraq, Libya, Syria
The despots in charge of those places, but that's just globohomosexual CIA propaganda.
The people that think strongman governments abroad are only unstable shotholes because muh GLOWIES are the same morons that rail against strong federal government in the states. The cognitive dissonance is unreal
You do realize that the counterpoint of your own fricking post is that you think the US government needs to be more brutal and oppressive towards its citizens
It isn't at all, but thanks for proving my point by completely failing to understand how moronic it is to believe strongman governments abroad are all fine and dandy as long as the CIA doesn't get involved, but strongman governments at home are doomed to fail as unstable, oppressive shit holes. The point is that despotic regimes failing for any number of reasons always gets blamed on the CIA despite despotic regimes inherently existing on shaky grounds at best.
Okay. But artificially propping up a rebellion or civil war does not improve the situation at all. It makes it worse and creates a power vacuum where many factions fight for power. We knock down governments with no clue on what to do afterwards. Look at Afghanistan and read the reports of people with first hand knowledge and zero stake in the situation. Shit was fricked, the government we installed was incredibly corrupt. The Taliban were way more interested in actually running the country and day to day affairs than our government.
>no idea what to do afterwards
You're not wrong about that. The real meta-play would have been to barter with the Taliban once we had satisfied ourselves with whatever it was we had done and then left. I don't think anyone thought the Taliban wouldn't ever come back, so I don't know why anyone bothered to pretend whatever happened after we left, be it in 15 years or 1, mattered at all
CIA is like some omnipresent force of nature or evil god to brown people.
They are somehow both gay trans incompetant and moronic but also control every single person on earth and are everywhere somehow.
Why? They just kill themselves off. Like that airline or the anti thot patrol protests/riots.
>Why don't we go to war in Iran?
why should we, the only one that wants war with iran is israel
>Why don't we go to war in Iran? They are a danger for world peace in the region
The USA is really bad at reconstruction these days, they pulled it off twice really well and thought they knew what they were doing but literally every attempt since has backfired.
An organic movement needs to arise that can be supported, trying to force-grow one doesn't seem to work out very well.
They have a movement right now but unless they get in the war-fighting mood, they can't hold a state and if they can't hold it, there's no point invading just to give them one.
Ukraine is a much better model, let them show they want it bad enough and can fight for it, then prop them up with what's required in the minimum quantities necessary. It'll be more stable in the long run.
I wonder about Afghanistan because it seemed MORE meta-stable in 2000 than it was in 2020
Like, the Northern Alliance were holding 40% of the country and were very slowly being inched back by the Taliban 1v1 over a decade, but the ANA were allegedly the same guys as the Northern Alliance and the Taliban basically decapitated their entire nation in a week
Would the ANA have lasted longer if we had just culled every Tali that stuck his head up, taken Kabul, given it to the ANA immediately and then fricked off by the beginning of 2002?
>Like, the Northern Alliance were holding 40% of the country and were very slowly being inched back by the Taliban 1v1 over a decade, but the ANA were allegedly the same guys as the Northern Alliance and the Taliban basically decapitated their entire nation in a week
Could be a concentration-of-force effect.
If you're holding 60% of a pissed-off country, you have to garrison every town to keep them under control.
If you're holding no territory then you can knock over towns and cities one by one with the full weight of your army, come back and reconquer anything that flares up later when they're leaderless because you killed all the current crop of leaders and somewhat disarmed and completely disorganised.
>Would the ANA have lasted longer if we had just culled every Tali that stuck his head up, taken Kabul, given it to the ANA immediately and then fricked off by the beginning of 2002?
The US forced the Taliban into a guerilla organisation rather than a populist movement, you're still doing that which means they're still a force that the ANA is poorly equipped to fight. They could hold their own against an army better than an insurgency I think.
Partly because their style of rule is to terrorise a village and then come back and do it again if they didn't learn their lesson. That doesn't work when the Taliban torch another police station and just vanish and leave random villages to be terrorised by the "government", then come back and do it again but this time the villagers are cheering them on.
The Northern Alliance was a bunch of different warlords, many of them enemies and rivals. The NATO-backed Kabul regime was the same thing. The relatives of politicians and the warlords were running most of the opium trade. The Afghan Taliban taxed existing poppy farmers in areas they controlled or contested, but they never grew or traded in it themselves.
Giving any power to the warlords and their allies, without NATO holding it together, would have just resulted in a civil war between them. That doesn't hurt AQ either, they would have thrived on it. The reason the Afghan Taliban formed in the first place was because of the ensuing civil war in the first half of the 1990s after the Soviets left. The IEA ended the civil war by taking most of the cities and the south/east.
There's violence now (from ISK and NRF) but its far less than during the US occupation, or during the first half of the 1990s. Any AQ activity in Afghanistan has been irrelevant since the mid 2010s. Since they couldn't implement Salafism, they and ISIS have focused on West Asia and Africa instead since the late 2000s and early 2010s.
The IEA also crushed most of ISK in the late 2010s whereas the former Kabul regime let them run wild, partly to blame their attacks on the Taliban and partly to keep the US staying longer in Afghanistan. The YPG/SDF is basically pulling the same shit in Northeast Syria but ISIS is not a viable threat in the north because you have rival Jihadists and SNA strongholds, Turkey, and even Iran, Russia and Assad.
>Would the ANA have lasted longer if we had just culled every Tali that stuck his head up, taken Kabul, given it to the ANA immediately and then fricked off by the beginning of 2002?
the ANA would have lasted longer if the US had given them the means to actually fight effectively instead of only giving the MRAPS and small arms with the understanding that they would always have US tanks, helicopters, air support and artillery. only to stab them in the back and leave in the middle of the night. Then blame them for not fighting hard enough despite you leaving them without air cover, arty, intel, MEDIVAC, QRF, any kind of armor and logistical support.
idk why anyone in the 3rd world would side with the US when they by past experience will stab you in the back and leave you to the commies/fundies as soon as they think doing so will win them a few votes.
But the US did leave them artillery and an excellent COIN light attack plane.
>an excellent COIN light attack plane
of which they had like 5 and their ground crews and maintainers were western contractors who got evaced by the US leaving them without the ability to operate them effectively.
no refunds
>the ANA
Was a money laundering operation on a grand scale and a completely combat ineffective force from top to bottom, which is why they completely melted away from the most basic resistance. If I was in Afghanistan I would have HELPED the Taliban in hunting down the few ANA loyalists and publicly executing them.
>t.Marine who deployed alongside ANA
Tbf the US has failed at rebuilding nations that literally don't want to be rebuilt. Iraq and especially Afghanistan are practically iron age and they have no interest in modernizing. You can lead a horse to water and all that
Both Afghanistan and Iraq were pretty modern and secular for a while.
The Russians fricked one and Saddam fricked the other, or got the US to frick it by invading one of their oil suppliers.
O right, back in the 80's I think it was? I tend to forget that. Afghanistan was close to iran in those terms, but after the soviets did what they do, the Taliban took power in the vacuum and did what they do as well
>Afghanistan was close to iran in those terms, but after the soviets did what they do, the Taliban took power in the vacuum
More or less. picrel was Kabul 1972 though it's not exactly typical, those would have been middle or upper class girls in a good, safe suburb of Kabul (I think it was actually on a university campus).
The issue was that the Soviet invasion, Mujahideen, warlords and civil war all contributed to the country becoming a shithole, this made a lot of schools close down but the madrasas stayed open, more opened up with Saudi funds and Saudi missionary Imams to teach in them.
The US didn't help matters by sending in textbooks that emphasised war and militant Islam resisting communist decadence.
The result was a generation of pig-ignorant religious graduates who believed in god, guns and...genocide I guess. Make that Allah, AKs and atrocities.
Those are the Taliban, the word means "Students" and they mean Students of the Quran.
It's like if an entire generation grew up on bible-belt fundamentalism and then decided they had to take back the country from the democrats and trannies.
>that one on the left
Woof
>It's like if an entire generation grew up on bible-belt fundamentalism and then decided they had to take back the country from the democrats and trannies.
I hate this talking point, it's positively fricking reddit tier. There is no will nor justification in any major church in the US to start a guerilla campaign against the federal government.
That's why it's a hypothetical here dude. Anon isn't literally saying the church wants to instigate a war, he's saying it's like they did and people actually took them up on it. Learn to read between the lines you autistic frick
Southern Baptists are major.
>I hate reality
Allah doesnt care about your feelings infidel
No. Kabul was (relatively) secular and modern. Rural Helmand was just the same then as it is now. And in Kabul you had the interesting situation of rural boys being sent there to go to school and university, and really not fricking liking what they saw there. Before the soviets invaded there were significant riots by militant Islamic students, and a large number of straight up murders. It was a significant destabilising factor that led to the crises that caused the Soviets to feel they had to invade. Although being Russians, they were kinda looking for excuses to attack anyway.
Iran is doing a pretty good job of eating itself right now. The U.S. and a number of other powers are quietly helping them along from the shadows. Optimal strategery for the moment given how many resources are required elsewhere. Disassembling pussyia is paying large dividends in Iranistan in the meanwhile.
You know, I assumed they'd go to Ukraine but everyone's giving weapons there.
The spicier option is to send them back to Iran but not to the regime.
>~~*danger to world peace*~~
Yes, Rabbi, we absolutely should
You need to let it go, Bolton.
I'm sure they are all good and ready to be sent back to Iran (not to the Iranian government, though).
hopefully they get sent to ukraine or the iranian protestors, if they get crushed or dismantled or whatever i'm gonna be pissed.
>Ak-47
Those are clearly 74U's
don't they usually claim to dump all this shit in the deep ocean? I wonder if the Ukraine conflict has changed this.
Dear US Navy,
Parts kits pls.
Sincerely,
Anon
>all these midwits making having a hissy fit because the media used the wrong model designation for the rifles
>Corrects them saying it's obviously an AKS-74U
>fails to notice the bulge frontrunion
Yeah I saw that, I don't know of any guns that fit that description. Is it some kind of local Iranian variant or am I just outdated on my short AK info and the design was updated at some point? It's definitely not Serbian as those have 3 vents and the ones in the pic have 2
Yeah it’s some Molot RPK/AKS-74U hybrid monstrosity called the AKS-20U that’s intended for the civilian market. There’s also a Saiga AKS-74U clone that went into production recently, probably to get rich off Arabs/Pakis obsessed with the whole Krink status weapon thing.
Why does it have 3 positions on the safety if its semiautomatic only? This is some government approved special order
Wow i wish they would secure our southern fricking borders instead of chasing around enemies of Israel.
How would we go about doing that? Honest question. I don't think a military style cordon is going to cut it, but I don't know what would
Annex Mexico
Fortify Panama canal
Utterly worse even than A-stan. You must be twelve.
The Spanish use the army for it quite well
Wtf I love spain now
damn that doesn't look like the fricking navy does it
Por favor, retírese de España, señor.
More ICE agents, more immigration judges to clear cases and get people sent back quicker, and start really fricking over employers found to be hiring illegals, the majority of illegal aliens are people who overstayed visas so having the navy park a Ford class in the Rio Grande wouldn't do all that much
yeah the navy is going to sail a carrier up the rio grande.
Businesses which hire illegals benefit from the War On Some Drugs destabilizing Latin America. Counterproductive policies ensure (especially morally appealing ones like incarcerations in corporate prisons) labor stays cheap at the bottom.
those incredibly dangerous dishwashers
1. Yemen is an enemy of Saudi Arabia
2. We benefit enormously from supporting our regional allies in many ways
3. The Navy isn't really the best tool for securing a land border
4. Fricking over Iran is fun and serves them right
5. If you're really serious about doing something about immigration the thing to do is focus on what's pushing people out of their countries. Make those countries not shitholes, and mass immigration ends more or less. But that's probably too "leftist" a take for you.
I'd honestly rather just plant machine guns. Socialist taco-munchers can solve their own problems, we have our own to deal with.
>socialist taco munchers can solve their own problems
No they can't. And that's why they're now our problems
oh frick off. the taco munchers don't do so bad on their own. they were doing alright until those shitbag soviets and our moronic glowBlack folk started getting involved down there.
You would have to convince (amongst others) most US car manufacturers to stop being competitive in order to do that, since the bulk of their production facilities are in northern Mexico
Or are you proposing that the border be closed, but only in one direction?
classic midwit take
Its true, Northern Mexico is more economically integrated into the southern US than it is into the rest of Mexico
If you dont believe me, go bring up Google maps and count the highways running into the southern US, then compare that to the number heading to southern Mexico
Northern Mexico will probably be a US state by 2050
No one was saying there aren’t any manufacturing plants in Mexico. The midwit take comes from the snarky arrogance of “oh well you’ll just have to convince the auto manufacturers to move back to the US.” It’s that attitude of “once thing change they cannot change again.” “once the jobs are gone they’re gone” etc. It’s a rigid and moronic way of thinking that smacks of sophomore year political science talking points.
Shut the frick up and enjoy having your penis circumcised and not being able to afford college and medical bills. And dont forget keep paying your taxes, that West Bank concrete wall in Israel is expensive as frick. Israel is our greatest allied.
This saved the lives of millions of fish, we should be thanking them for protecting the environment.
The amount of shit I had to go through to get a 74 and a krink built only to see the military seize these and presumably dump them into the ocean makes me big mad.
Does that qualify as antique smuggling?
>Captured from Iran
Now send them to Ukraine, of course.
maybe
>AK-47s for EVERYONE!
they are going to ukraine td army
>AKSUs
>icon to upgrade
>Galil
What did EA mean by this?
This is why I push for segregation.
You think these motherfrickers in Congress cared the twin towers went down?
What do Muslims fighting against other Muslims across a full continent have to do with the west?
Reverse genocide, then you piece of shit are looking down on others?
dump
>bulged front trunnion
What kind of AK did the Iranians send?
It's apparently a model made by Vepr called the VPO-158N-06 or the AKS-20U. Should've guessed as such since Vepr is known for producing rifles with bulged front trunnions and the lack of a 3rd vent ruled out Zastava
>Iran is a sovereign nation
>Yemen is a sovereign nation
>Iran sends ship to Yemen
>US Navy ships caught a fishing boat smuggling ...
How is this not piracy?
That's a reasonable question but the answer is pretty much that navies aren't pirates because they say so.
Maybe they might be enforcing either UN sanctions or have permission from the Yemeni government/regime.
those aren't even ak47 those look like ak74u's I fricking hate how everything is an "AR15" or "AK47" to all those gay in the world
VPO-158N-06/AKS-20U, i fricking hate how everything is an "AK74U"
homosexual.
The peak of Mount Stupid
You mean they illegally detained a fisherman violating his constitutional rights wtf
but unironically. who cares if the dude is making some cash on the side. the navy is just pissed that they're not getting their skids greased.
Were you going to follow that up with a "and I won't stand for it?"
It has the Bulgarian Krinkov type rear sight, Russian folding buttstock, a distinctive moulded handgrip, plastic fake wood furniture. What a weird gun. Much less obviously Iranian than the previous batch, the handgrip is better than the Africa beater quality of chinese export AKs.. Could be chinese or from chinese parts? Try to find that handgrip /k/. Could be CIA also.
>Aкc74y
Russian from Kalashnikov - Although these appear to have been new built yesterday with new chinese-ish flared moulded grip. Some sort of volume special deal?
>Kalashnikov
Molot
Fricking moron
So Molot is making krinks. I guess is OK. Siltuation now glowing more BTW Molot is the western connect.
What European shithole do you hail from, my fellow redditor?
>Jake Epstein
Every damn time.
Why is the US policing waters on behalf of Saudi Arabia
Is this the important task of the military ?
It's good practice, it stops Saudis from building a navy to do it themselves which keeps them and everyone else in the region both dependant and unable to challenge the USA, and it fricks with Iran.
Kek again? I might hit up Iran for some gunz
I don't think they have these guns anymore, poindexter. That's literally what the article is about.
>US captures a ship full of AKs from Iran
>Iran no longer has any AKs
pls think
Hey I got a friend on the Monsoon, I should hit him up for one