>"modern" air-to air Russian weapons are useful against aged Russian aircraft Ukraine uses
WAOW
wow active radar guided missiles are effective on a force that only has fox-1's (effectively constrained to WVR combat), say it ain't so.
>We are better than (our own) 50 year old aircraft! take that westoids!
>October
but didn't 100% of the Ukrainian air force got destroyed by the end of February?
>all these moronic threads
okay what the hell happened this time?
The state of /k/ope. The fact is Russia has demonstrate itself capable to maintain a fully functional modern military despite facing overwhelming losses and stress due to facing the whole might of NATO support for almost a year. Probably only USA (on which the entire NATO is being carried by) is capable of achieving this. And yet, /k/ are continuously spammed with thread that implies the Russian military is north korea or even africa tier. Only the second best army in the world are able to conduct operations of this scale and intesnsity for almost a year.
>the whole might of nato?
It’s just Ukraine with some nato. You’re intentionally leaving out the fact nato hasn’t donated aircraft, tanks in numbers, IFVs, in numbers, troops, long range missile systems, and naval force. Russia is losing to its neighbor with a couple of nato tubes
>the whole might of NATO support for almost a year.
People would laugh at you less if you took a different angle, e.g. pick up some of the talking points of actual Russians instead of whatever drivel you're picking up from Twitter or Facebook.
Nobody ever said Russia ran out of missiles. They said they were running out of missiles if they carried on using them at the rate they did. You know what they did? They stopped using them at the rate they did and started lobbing AA missiles as quasi-ground attack missiles. I'll give you an example.
I have 1000 cakes. I eat 100 a day. After three days I have 700 left. I am running out of cakes. I will last 7 more days at this rate. So I cut down to eating 50 cakes a day instead. This gives me more days to eat cake, but I am not eating as many before. After a few more days, I cut down to 25 cakes a day. Again, I am running out, but I am introducing a reduction in cake consumption in order for me to still have any cake consumption capabilities. While this is happening, I am baking 5 cakes a day.
Do you understand Russia went from lobbing 250 modernish missiles a day to doing 50 to doing AA missiles in ground attack mode, to lawnmower drones, while saving up stockpiles of missiles to do petulant attacks to denazify bridges and playgrounds. Just like Russia went from firing 60,000 shells a day down to 5,000. They are running out. Nobody ever said they had RAN OUT.
>highly effective against Su-25 and Su-24 >In March 2019, 23 Su-24 were reported in operational status. >As of 2022, 31 Su-25 were operational.
So we are talking about 50 planes that are affected by that missile. Most of them were probably shot down anyway after ten months of war.
New planes will be western.
I really can't see what are you trying to argue here.
The answer is 'yes' but they are limited because the Russians have enough AA and jets of their own to cover their lines. So both sides don't really risk it any more. This is one of the reasons people want USA to give Ukraine hundreds of F-16's and the supplies to go with it. They would lose many, yes, but they could possibly open up the ability to support ground offences. People aren't memeing when they say the war is essentially WW1.
Nothing to worry about, ukr air force qas deleted in first hour of the special military operation to denazify nato biolabs that create undyable super soldiers such as azov and the missile that sank moskva.
>with full AWACS
There are three NATO AWACS up at the moment, which is odd. There is usually one in Romania but there is two atm and a Blackhawk is flying about there too.
>Spend forty years trying (and failing) to make a fighter that's capable of beating the West in dogfights with super fancy manoeuvres (muh cobra) >Shitpost about this on /k/ for nearly 20 years >Turns out the West was right all along and BVR missiles are more important >Seamlessly shift your shilling and pretend the last 20 years didn't happen >You are still 40 years behind the West in missile technology
>highly effective against Su-25 and Su-24
What West has to fear?
The state of /k/ope. The fact is Russia has demonstrate itself capable to maintain a fully functional modern military despite facing overwhelming losses and stress due to facing the whole might of NATO support for almost a year. Probably only USA (on which the entire NATO is being carried by) is capable of achieving this. And yet, /k/ are continuously spammed with thread that implies the Russian military is north korea or even africa tier. Only the second best army in the world are able to conduct operations of this scale and intesnsity for almost a year.
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>the whole might of nato?
It’s just Ukraine with some nato. You’re intentionally leaving out the fact nato hasn’t donated aircraft, tanks in numbers, IFVs, in numbers, troops, long range missile systems, and naval force. Russia is losing to its neighbor with a couple of nato tubes
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>the whole might of NATO support for almost a year.
People would laugh at you less if you took a different angle, e.g. pick up some of the talking points of actual Russians instead of whatever drivel you're picking up from Twitter or Facebook.
>The fact is Russia has demonstrate itself capable to maintain a fully functional modern military
Barely trained mobik cannonfodder with rusted AKs and supported by T-62s is "a fully functional modern military" now?
>Modern
I guess it looks modern since you came from a backwards siberian village with no electricty.But no it really isn't.
Here, have your (you)
>The fact is Russia has demonstrate itself capable to maintain a fully functional modern military
>mfw reading this
>"modern" air-to air Russian weapons are useful against aged Russian aircraft Ukraine uses
WAOW
wow active radar guided missiles are effective on a force that only has fox-1's (effectively constrained to WVR combat), say it ain't so.
>We are better than (our own) 50 year old aircraft! take that westoids!
>October
but didn't 100% of the Ukrainian air force got destroyed by the end of February?
Yeah. And Russia ran out of missiles back in March.
>no u
whataboutism wont work here, boss
Nobody ever said Russia ran out of missiles. They said they were running out of missiles if they carried on using them at the rate they did. You know what they did? They stopped using them at the rate they did and started lobbing AA missiles as quasi-ground attack missiles. I'll give you an example.
I have 1000 cakes. I eat 100 a day. After three days I have 700 left. I am running out of cakes. I will last 7 more days at this rate. So I cut down to eating 50 cakes a day instead. This gives me more days to eat cake, but I am not eating as many before. After a few more days, I cut down to 25 cakes a day. Again, I am running out, but I am introducing a reduction in cake consumption in order for me to still have any cake consumption capabilities. While this is happening, I am baking 5 cakes a day.
Do you understand Russia went from lobbing 250 modernish missiles a day to doing 50 to doing AA missiles in ground attack mode, to lawnmower drones, while saving up stockpiles of missiles to do petulant attacks to denazify bridges and playgrounds. Just like Russia went from firing 60,000 shells a day down to 5,000. They are running out. Nobody ever said they had RAN OUT.
oddly enough the kiev feint also happened in march...
>all these moronic threads
okay what the hell happened this time?
They took Soledar for the third time today.
>highly effective against Su-25 and Su-24
>In March 2019, 23 Su-24 were reported in operational status.
>As of 2022, 31 Su-25 were operational.
So we are talking about 50 planes that are affected by that missile. Most of them were probably shot down anyway after ten months of war.
New planes will be western.
I really can't see what are you trying to argue here.
This thread again, Armatard? Didn't got btfo enough in the last two threads?
Don't you have some donkey dicks to suck?
Fake news.
Russian themselves said that AA missiles are useless against real enemy in real war. Only real way is do air combat is dogfight with guns.
FACT.
Now we need to find out who is spreading fake news about R37 missiles and why.
for real though does ukraine still have aircraft?
No, Russia destroyed over 5000% of them within 1hr of the war starting.
Can you drop the sarcasm for a second? I honestly want to know.
The answer is 'yes' but they are limited because the Russians have enough AA and jets of their own to cover their lines. So both sides don't really risk it any more. This is one of the reasons people want USA to give Ukraine hundreds of F-16's and the supplies to go with it. They would lose many, yes, but they could possibly open up the ability to support ground offences. People aren't memeing when they say the war is essentially WW1.
yes, very substantially even. Unironically read the article OP screenshoted from.
https://static.rusi.org/SR-Russian-Air-War-Ukraine-web-final.pdf
Also some old /k/ino : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li-82YWqD7M
Nothing to worry about, ukr air force qas deleted in first hour of the special military operation to denazify nato biolabs that create undyable super soldiers such as azov and the missile that sank moskva.
Congrats. Russia has one effective thing, someone didnt completely grift the government over.
And even that vs a country that was supposed to have no air force by now, flying their own old platforms.
Do that vs a NATO airforce with full AWACS, F35 stealth fighter screens etc, Eurofighters & Meteor etc support combos, then we can talk about it.
>with full AWACS
There are three NATO AWACS up at the moment, which is odd. There is usually one in Romania but there is two atm and a Blackhawk is flying about there too.
>Spend forty years trying (and failing) to make a fighter that's capable of beating the West in dogfights with super fancy manoeuvres (muh cobra)
>Shitpost about this on /k/ for nearly 20 years
>Turns out the West was right all along and BVR missiles are more important
>Seamlessly shift your shilling and pretend the last 20 years didn't happen
>You are still 40 years behind the West in missile technology
Based. Planes, tanks, and ships are fricking OBSOLETE, no matter who operates them. All will bow before the might of the mighty missile.
Damn that soviet equipment is really fricking up that soviet equipment