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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    PMCs are the scum of the fricking earth, and anyone who thinks they are a good idea is a 20iq moron. They should all be killed.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >you can't get rich from the war plebian
      >only we, the plutocrats can
      I couldn't give less of a shit about mercs.

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Why doesn't Wagner just, leave?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      because it would be a colossal embarrassment

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        for you

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The head of Wagner doesn't give a shit about his men. If he can take Bakhmut, it'll be Russia first victory in the war, even if Bakhmut holds zero strategic value for either side of the war. He can use this win to catapult himself into higher positions in the Russian government.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >If he can take Bakhmut, it'll be Russia first victory in the war
        ok, i checked and in still in the timeline where this is not the only success Russia had?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >If he can take Bakhmut, it'll be Russia first victory in the war
        what
        they won plenty of victories

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          May I see them?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Haha, just leave bro
      >just let the front collapse, Pultler will understand

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Damn hadn't looked at it like this proggy is in a choke hold lol. Chauvinist butthole treats him right.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      NKVD blocking detachment won't let then.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >NKVD blocking detachment
        The k stands for Kadyrovite

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They threatened to do exactly that this week. Just up and leave the front and let Ukraine walk back into their territory

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Then Pirogi will "just leave" life, by window jumping, his uppity attitude has him on thin ice already

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    'western analysis' is basically PR designed for consumption by western audiences when newspapers quote it

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of "analysis" is just someone's opinion or some thought someone threw around. But it's either that or Russians are literally moronic as an explanation.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Jealous the west can actually make an analysis instead of just repating "Great success!" everytime Puccia asks for war status?

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >PMC
    why not call them mercenaries like in any point of time in history?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The scale is bigger. Like comparing a city to a town

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        How? More mercenaries fought during the Thirty Years' War.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          While you're probably not wrong, that doesn't show mercenaries
          Unless of course what you're implying is that all soldiery are mercenaries, and always have been, and you'd be right
          There is no distinction between professional soldiery and mercenary bands that held loyalty to a kingdom/nation/state

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Because they're technically not. Think about it this way:
      >Veteran Russian soldiers
      >Fighting for Russia
      >On Russia's paycheck

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        That makes no sense. By the same logic, most of the condottieri and landsknechts weren't mercenaries because they fought for Italians or Germans factions most of the time.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Italy and Germany weren't countries back then, so said Germans and Italians eere fighting for a bunch of different countries

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            landsknechts were most often employed by >Imperial armies and the >Empire was technically a country.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      they are the modern day corsairs.
      >give no quarter to them holols Arrgh!!!

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      In all seriousness, it's because they occupy a grey zone of legal definition.
      You wouldn't call a bouncer hired to stand guard outside a pub a "mercenary" (or maybe you might, I dunno) and you wouldn't call a BAE contractor tinkering on a piece of military machinery in maintenance a "mercenary".
      Well, PMCs essentially minimise their combat role on paper as much as possible, selling themselves mostly as a provider of civilian security services (like bouncers), technicians, advisors and consultants, etc.
      So even though they are a de facto mercenary military force, they make themselves quite slippery in definition from a legal perspective.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Americans sperged out when people called their guns for hire in Iraq mercenaries, insisting on the PMC term. Guess it stuck.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    arent PMC's illegal in russia?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They are, which is why Wagner is not officially a PMC

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        how do they explain the massive employee deaths? there must be a frick ton paperwork from work safety inspection

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >work safety inspection
          I don't think you get how things work in this country...

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          What deaths? They're all MIA or deserters.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Are they just arm of Prigozhin's catering company? Are they simply losing chefs and bus boys in Ukraine?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's just regular old politics in authoritarian shitholes lmao

      russia is a society that takes pride in not abiding by its own laws on any level. they exist purely as an excuse whenever the big man decides he needs you locked away

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That's the beauty of the whole thing anon. Putin just executes the leaders at the end.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    We are literally living in a Call of Duty world

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Did you forget that Russia steams rolls America and Europe in Call of Duty?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Yes

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They should have brought back gung-ho for MW22.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If you absolutely MUST advance over an open field without support, that's probably one of the better ways to do it. Lucky there was no opposition or at least not determined opposition

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    the orcheastra is going down with the ship.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What are some tactical advantages?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The military wants to make penal brigades so they have to stop Wagner from taking them all.

      >PMC
      why not call them mercenaries like in any point of time in history?

      The difference is scale, that would be like calling BlackRock landlords, technically correct but they are so big they are closer to an investment firm.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    People are so fricking wrapped up in the shitty shininess of Wagner that everyone misses the actual, real PMC Putin seems to have thrown his faith behind.
    Shoigu (fricking Shoigu wood-goblin of all people) has his PMC Patriot getting prime, competent Russian former Spetsnaz and GRU personnel, they're paid something like $12k (not rubles, dollars) equivalent per two month contract, and they have access to MoD stocks much more directly (and usually best of the litter, too, thanks to it being *owned* by Shoigu) so they're on average, far better equipped than even Wagner, and they actually interface with and work more closely/organically with the Russian military and especially the GRU than Wagner.

    Putin is definitely trying to weaken Wagner if for no other reason than it puts Shoigu and his PMC at the top of the pack. I seriously bet Wagner will become a sideshow to PMC Patriot within the Russian state by the time this mess is over and done with.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Arent shoigu’s boys the ones getting gibbed en mass in vuhledar?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They're the reserve in case the ukies run out of ATGMs and landmines so that they can rush through and claim credit for the whole thing.
        So far, I don't think they've actually led any assaults or took any independent action, so they just be another paper parade unit cooked up by the propaganda department to look good on newsreels.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >GRU personnel have joined the Patriots
      Interesting, so have they managed to secure the Philosophers legacy?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Are there any pics of PMC patriot? Any visible distinction of them from the rest of Russian forces?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >the head of the Minister of Defense has his own PMC company
      Literal MW2 Shadow Company shit lmao

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >than even Wagner
      Not hard

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      But wouldn't Putin want Wagner to be strong if that is the case? That would allow him to pit both PMCs against each other in a power struggle to keep them contained.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The shoigunate is loyal and part of the inner sphere, pirogis ambitions has of late seemed to extend further than allowed. While a friend of Putin's he's a useful tool for the elite, not an equal amongst them as I understand it.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Not to mention the russian elites would never accept a foreigner like Shoigu in a position of real power. That makes him a natural ally for Putin.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't wagner build on a cadre of elite former russian SOF? They just inflated their numbers with cannon fodder nowadays for ukraine.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I could actually believe this and that it's a power game between the future heads of private armies during Russia's upcoming Warlord Era

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    That's giving them far to much credit I think, incompetence and conspiracy are almost indistinguishable

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >ukies using bakhmut to degrade wagner
    >russians also using bakhmut to degrade wagner
    what the frick

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Wagner is the personal PMC of a friend of Putin, other Putin friends have personal PMCs that work directly with the Russian military while Wagner was being used as sort of clean-up crew that it's owner used for operations that Putin wanted off the record. Russian military, the other Putin's friends are using places like Bakhmut as a killing ground against Wagner and as a way to embarrass it's owner, who has in turn been using Wagner's performance to embarrass the leaders of the Russian military.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    America trying to use divide and conquer propaganda lol

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    "western analysis" lol
    since when those western experts are credible ??
    you gringos cant think by your selves ??

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >gringos
      Buenos días, señores!

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone got the compilation of "Bakhmut has fallen" screencaps?

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Reusing the "Trump Lost Simulator" memes
    I can't tell if troll, stupid or delusional

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Keep telling you lads, look to the Romans and all becomes clear. They were desperate to keep Pompey and Caesar and their legions as far away from Rome as possible.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Before his death Julius Caesar was engaged in composing regulations for the distribution of grain to the poor and other matters for the welfare of Rome and of Italy.
      Somehow I don't think Putin is worried about Prigozhin winning over the people with socialist policy.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Western Analysis: Russia is running out of artillery shells
    >Western Analysis: Russia can fight for two more years
    >Western Analysis: Wagner is likely winning
    >Western Analysis: Wagner is likely losing

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why does /k/ just eat up every single piece of propaganda that is made. I would have thought that you autists weren't so gullible.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Wagner is good because it recruited competent russian officers in the past
    >this drains competent officers from the army
    >now all officers in the army are corrupt incompetent dickheads
    >use wagner in frontlines instead of using them to train new troops
    > do this to get rid of the remaining competent officers in your country
    >now your country cant train good officers anymore
    seriously, what the frick is the MoD even thinking, assuming that they even want to win the war.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >this drains competent officers from the army
      Ukes are right to hold and waste the experienced grunt pool, a static minimal action front is as advantageous to Russia as a full blown cease fire. Can't let this turn into a 'frozen conflict' if the ambition is irredentist.

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Water is likely wet
    >Bears most probably defecate in the woods
    >Pope in all likelihood Catholic

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Pope in all likelihood Catholic
      Jokes on you.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_of_the_Coptic_Orthodox_Church

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >The Russian winter offensive

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    There are two possibilities.

    1. Putin is sending Wagner to die in an Uriah gambit.

    2. Western intelligence is trying to convince Prigozhin that Putin is doing number 1 so Wagner coups Putin.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody is going to coup Putin in any scenario in the close future as it would be highly detrimental to their own health, military and other high officials gain their power and wealth from the current establishment and like it that way, why shift all that shit up into chaos? If Pirogi tried everything and everyone would get him.
      Even if they're not strict materialists as described above they would not want Russia to turn into a chaotic shithole (yes yes I know) for patriotic reasons of just human reason. Nor would the international community due to the uncertainty of the nuclear arsenal.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You may be right, but I think the current establishment is moribund given its failures in Ukraine. The Russian kleptocratic oligarchs were making more money prior to the disastrous war and the concomitant sanctions. The gravy train has since been derailed. So if things are getting worse do they think that Putin will secure a victory or quasi-victory in Ukraine or do they fear a 1917/1991 situation?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >or do they fear a 1917/1991 situation?
          If they do, they have no fricking say anyway and most likely no way to take him out and grab power. The oligarchs don't rule as such anymore as Putin brought them to heel and took a lot of their shit as tribute to allow them to continue.

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