>oh look winchester is making a .22 lever gun that is lighter than my golden boy and has a takedown, maybe I'll get it

>oh look winchester is making a .22 lever gun that is lighter than my golden boy and has a takedown, maybe I'll get it
>made in turkey
lmao, guess I'll just keep using my golden boy

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    umm
    ya

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why even bother with a 22 in a lever gun? A manually operated gun doesn't have any cycling issues to worry about, so you can handload whatever cartridge down to 22LR power if you want, e.g. the entire sport of cowboy action.
    There just isn't a point to this.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Convenience and price. I don't have time to handload I have a job and still have a sex life.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >on PrepHole
        >sex life
        pick one

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          not him, but I handload, have a job and a sex life. sounds like a skill issue.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It’s because you hand load. He specifically says he doesn’t handload.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I've literally dumped enough hot ones in my wife that she's laying on our couch pregnant with our firstborn child
          >you can check in any time you like but you can never leave

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > pregnant with our firstborn
            What did you you stuff him back up there

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      price. Its cheaper and more time effective to buy .22 than it is to load .357 down to .22lr.

      Will there ever be a .22 levergun with a King's gate?

      I don't remember if it was marlin or winchester, but there absolutely were kings gate .22lr rifles like 100 years ago. They stopped making them because the current system is cheaper and easier to load

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Are you moronic?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, I handload my bolt guns and lever guns down to 22LR power all the time.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why the frick would I do that when I could buy a brick of 22 and save time and money? What’s with the weird virtue signaling about loading piss weak loads?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Because you can't load a 357 Magnum into your 22?
            Because you already have the 357 Magnum but not a 22 and don't need/want both?
            I thought this would be obvious but I guess not.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Your whole premise is stupid. It’s like going into a thread about Ruger Mk IVs and pretending everyone is stupid for not just hand loading 9mm to near squib levels instead. Stop seeking attention to validate your reloading hobby.

              Carrying a 357 levergun and carrying a box of 22 loadings and a box of full power 357 makes more sense than carrying two leverguns and two different boxes of cartridges.

              What nonsense scenario have you cooked up where you thinks that’s necessary or convenient?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                don't you see, he is hiking into the woods with his lever action and shooting and also either poaching or keeping it for protection. even though it would make way more sense cost and weight wise just to have a .22 rifle and handgun

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                An autoloader isn't the same because it requires a certain amount of recoil to function and isn't designed to be manually cycled.

                If he already has the 357, why does he need to consoom product?
                I almost guarantee you don't handload because this attitude of wastefulness, greed, entitlement, and sloth is typical of 22 shooters.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I can buy 100 rounds of .22 for $5. Why would I waste time on reloading?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are the one who came into this thread and created your own narrative about someone already having a 357 rifle so that you could do this weird moral grandstanding about the superiority of wasting time and money loading 357 to sub BB gun velocity or whatever you’re pretending you do to get it to 22 lr energy levels. With the time it takes you to reload a box worth of 357 I could put 500 rounds of 22 down range and have that much more practice shooting over you.

                You post on PrepHole. Don't pretend your time is valuable. It's laughable.
                Anyway, the "value" in handloading is making custom loaded ammunition that can't be purchased anywhere and that develops a more intricate bond with your firearm.
                I wish I could talk you into it, but most people who don't handload would rather remain ignorant. Which is tragic because handloading (to me) is a crucial aspect of the hobby.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >resorting to claiming non tangible benefits like developing a more intricate bond with your firearm
                If you want to “develope more intricate bond with your firearm“ (lmao) then you should shoot it instead of wasting time putting like 2 grains of powder in a 357 case. How many rounds do you shoot a year? I’ve shot almost 2000 this month.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Again, I don't expect you to understand. I pity you. It's sad, that for some people dumping a wad of cash on bulk factory ammo and magdumping it is enjoyable.
                Thanks for leaving your cases and bullets. I'll melt the latter down and keep the former and put it to good use. Your wastefulness and ignorance will not be in vain.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Stop LARPing like you’re in the 1890s and tell me how many rounds you shoot a year and what the last two drills you shot were.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >drills
                Ah, a LARPerator.
                There's no hope for you sadly.
                Thanks for the loot drop.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So if actually practicing is wasteful then how did you get good at shooting?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you reload enough .357 with lead from recovered .22lr bullets and through the power of friendship you learn to shoot

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Actually, it would make sense that he has lead poisoning if he actually does the shit he says he does.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >this homosexual is reloading muh .22lr cases
                kek

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                why would I fricking bother to buy a .357 gun just to hand load for it when I can just buy .22lr for the .22 I already have? I'm sure you literally spend more money on your reloads than the price of .22

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You don't gave a 357 already? You only have a 22? That's dumb. Why buy the unreliable toy caliber first?

                >this homosexual is reloading muh .22lr cases
                kek

                No but I scoop plenty of 22 rimfire bullets out of the berm.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >You don't gave a 357 already? You only have a 22? That's dumb. Why buy the unreliable toy caliber first?
                because its a toy gun. If I wanted a more reliable gun I have an AR and a shotgun
                >No but I scoop plenty of 22 rimfire bullets out of the berm.
                advanced poorgaygitry

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You're missing the point of .22 in that it's cheap as balls. You woo woo "muh closer bond with your firearm" BS is a new one though, I'll give you that.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Speak for yourself. I want to load 454 because even after the price of gear it’s cheaper…. Shits expensive man..

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                schizophrenic/10

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You are the one who came into this thread and created your own narrative about someone already having a 357 rifle so that you could do this weird moral grandstanding about the superiority of wasting time and money loading 357 to sub BB gun velocity or whatever you’re pretending you do to get it to 22 lr energy levels. With the time it takes you to reload a box worth of 357 I could put 500 rounds of 22 down range and have that much more practice shooting over you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Carrying a 357 levergun and carrying a box of 22 loadings and a box of full power 357 makes more sense than carrying two leverguns and two different boxes of cartridges.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cause it's fun, now pair it with a rough rider and get your cowboy action on.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My rough rider makes me so happy.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Will there ever be a .22 levergun with a King's gate?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      price. Its cheaper and more time effective to buy .22 than it is to load .357 down to .22lr.
      [...]
      I don't remember if it was marlin or winchester, but there absolutely were kings gate .22lr rifles like 100 years ago. They stopped making them because the current system is cheaper and easier to load

      https://www.gun-tests.com/rifles/working-the-marlin-model-1891-22-lever-action/

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      price. Its cheaper and more time effective to buy .22 than it is to load .357 down to .22lr.
      [...]
      I don't remember if it was marlin or winchester, but there absolutely were kings gate .22lr rifles like 100 years ago. They stopped making them because the current system is cheaper and easier to load

      >137 fricking years ago Colt could do it
      >look at modern market
      >NEVER FRICKING EVER
      Sigh. Tube mag lever action gate loading .22lr. Include good option for scope. That's all you have to do to get my money.

      [...]
      https://www.gun-tests.com/rifles/working-the-marlin-model-1891-22-lever-action/

      Ooh, that's a new gate loading .22 I've never heard of. Nice, anon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Ooh, that's a new gate loading .22 I've never heard of. Nice, anon.
        its not new, they stopped making them in 1891. Its a precursor to the marlin model 39a. Though marlin considers all their .22lr lever guns to be a continuation of the same model

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I meant new to me

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is there even a single gun left in Winchester's catalog that isn't made in Turkey?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Their larger caliber levergats are made by Miroku in Japan and are super nice value for the money.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Model 70 is made in Portugal.

        I'll phrase it differently then.
        Is there a single gun left in Winchester's catalog that is still being made in the USA?
        And the answer is obviously no. I've looked up at their websites, it's basically a cope page
        https://www.winchesterguns.com/support/faq/manufacture-location.html
        >hurr don't worry, the made in Portugal stuff just as good or better!
        >okay our guns are made in Portugal but with parts from Belgium!
        >so our pump shotguns are made in Turkey but overseed by us in glorious US of A
        >ok so our semi-auto 22 is made in Turkey with parts sourced from all over the world
        Fricking kek. I can only wish a quick death upon such brands.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The brand died in 1964

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That page is damage control, not cope. Somebody spent a lot of time writing all that shit because they know nobody wants a gun made in Turkey or fricking Portugal. I'm not upset about them using Miroku, though. Their guns are high quality, my dad has an 1892 made in that plant.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Is there a single gun left in Winchester's catalog that is still being made in the USA?
          Anon, winchester no longer exists, it's been 20 years, it's over.
          Their old shit is still around, buy a used winchester from boomers estate sale.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I have a SXP with made in Turkey written all over it and I honestly can't fault it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This is the most shocking post in the whole thread. Ive known six people with their new pump guns and they all broke after a few hundred rounds

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No, American labor laws and inflation would make an American made Winchester that was built to the pre-64 quality or even the modern Miroku quality 3500 bucks starting

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This, I love the Japanese built Winchesters like you wouldn't believe. Fantastic quality.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They really are, my dad's 1892 has the nicest bluing I've ever seen. They don't just churn them out, they really pay attention to fit and finish. You do pay for it, but I'd spend the extra money rather than put up with something thrown together carelessly by roaches any day

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Model 70 is made in Portugal.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This looks cheap as frick, like the Winchester airguns made by Walther/Umarex, what the frick.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      well yeah, its a turkish gun

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why isnt there a loading gate 22 hornet.
    I can reload hornet piss cheap, to 22lr spec if I want to, and its a centerfire.
    This needs to happen.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >buckhorn sights
    A simple notch is cheaper, less prone to damage, and better. Why does every single fricking lever action come with these shitty sights?

    On the tfbtv video the salesman was talking about how their buckhorn is superior to other buckhorns because it's "defined"...OK, it's defined, well done, now shave off the horns Winchester.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don't even think you see buckhorns on lever guns until 1900ish. Like earlier examples just have the normal notch sights. It was a turbo boomer gunblue is convinced it was just a marketing thing to convince hunters the gun was sporting and then have been kept as a tradition, even though they weren't seen on a lot of the lever actions when they first started production

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >day 348 of the boogaloo
    >still waging my personal war against the twenty twooligans
    >while looking for 22 cases on the ground to melt into 357 cases I spot their camp in the distance
    >they’re laughing and merrymaking, in their wastefulness and ignorance they’re wasting their valuable 22 ammo on TARGETS
    >practice, they call it
    >take aim at their sentry with my trusty 357 rifle
    >shot flies by his head because it’s only the 5th time I’ve actually fired this thing
    >he doesn’t hear it because it’s a 158 grain bullet going 125 feet per second
    >take a second shot
    >it bounces off of his cotton t shirt
    >he takes notice of me and calls me over
    >he tells me he’s never seen a nerf gun like mine, he says it’s really cool
    >he asks me if I’d like some of their squirrel stew
    >n-n-no thank you
    >he tells me good luck out there, tells me to stay safe
    >”this mockery will not stand” I mumble inaudibly as I take another bite of my horse meat pemmican

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Have a whole separate entity in Japan dedicated to making very high quality lever actions that use the original Winchester designs.
    >Have this new .22 lever action model made in Turkey instead
    What the frick were they thinking?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a 22 big whoop

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      its a .22. If they made it in japan the price point would be too high for the .22 market. This gun is competing with the henry lever .22s and is priced between the standard henry and the golden boy. They figure the winchester name will sell it over the henry name or if the marlin 39a comes back. Its basically a slightly better henry .22 due to the drilled and tapped tang and take down. But lmao turkshit means it will be lower quality than the henrys.
      The other issue is lever action .22s weren't historically popular. Winchester and other brands made way more pump action .22s because they were lighter. Even the marlin 39 only had like 2.2 million rifles sold over 100 years and I'd bet most of those were sold to boomers who grew up watching davy crocket, because the winchester 9422 didn't come out until 1972 and the henry .22s are basically exclusively sold to boomers

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I want one of those Henry Fronteirs with the threaded barrel so I can put my .22 can on it. Idk why nobody else makes such a thing, but unfortunately nobody has them in stock rn.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't think the lever .22 market is that big

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What happen to the FN built model 70s? I had my eye on one I heard they were very decent.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Take the Kebab Pill.
    Fund the next uprising of the Ottoman Empire.
    We'll take over Russia and the Balkanoids.
    We'll eliminate the Kurdish menace.
    Free Eunuchs for every purchase.
    Allahu Eckber!

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    People handload 22lr?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you literally can't reload a fired rimfire case. that one poster doesn't own a .22 so he is being moronic

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes it can be done there is website that sells a kit, you cast your own bullets and mix a priming compound, use pyrodex p for powder, you'd have to be bored out of your mind or wear a tiny hat though

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get it, why the frick would they do that? They have the perfectly good Miroku in Japan to produce their shit for them, why go to Turkey or Portugal? Why Winchester? Why?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because japan is expensive and a .22 hast to hit a price point

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        honest question, how is it that several US and Canada based manufacturers are able to push out .22lr rifles in the $250-$600 range just fine every day in large numbers, but Winchester can't? Pathetic. I will not be buying Turkshit, they have no idea how to do metallurgy correctly.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          those companies aren't run by israelites like winchester is

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, my first reaction. I saw it was dovetail only and wondered if they thought about a drilled and tapped version because I want to hunt with it, then I saw "MADE IN TURKEY" in the TFB video and went lol frick that, especially for $400.

    Also, is your golden boy octagon barrel? How heavy either way? IIRC I picked up a Henry at Cabelas and I was surprised at just how fricking heavy the octagon barrel one was. Forget if it was .22lr or not.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm pretty sure all golden boys are octagonal barrels. My golden boy is like somewhere between 7 and 7.5 lbs. I forget the exact weight, but does feel like an AR or loaded shotgun in weight and not a .22. Plus its kinda front heavy

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    the only thing is has going for it is the single pin takedown
    you will be able to clean it easier and also transport it in a smaller case
    other than that it does nothing different than any other similar priced lever rifle from Henry, Rossi, or Heritage

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What should I pay for a marlin 336cs? In 30-30

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I bought one for $400 like a year and a half ago, but idk if that was a good deal ot not.

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