I think the fact we have like two or three scenes where characters are just standing on the beach looking out to the mainland and hearing sounds of battle makes it more that the civil war is a distant and unimportant thing to them, but more of a curiosity, something island-dwellers think of as a topic of discussion more than a reality.
>2 friends become bitter enemies >One "wants peace" so he cuts off 6 fingers to show it >Other one is stubborn and won't give up
It's definitely about the Civil War and Treaty
Sometimes two guys falling out of a friendship with one taking extreme measures is just two guys falling out of a friendship with one taking extreme measures.
The place the movie takes place seems boring as feck, no wonder people go crazy there.
The UK and Ireland have really shite weather, people spend a lot of time indoors. The pub that they hang out in is only candlelit and very dark.
No wonder there’s a shot of a grey cloudy sky at the end, people must be super depressed there.
>The body creates vitamin D from direct sunlight on the skin when outdoors >Obtaining sufficient vitamin D from natural (nonfortified) food sources alone is difficult >people with vitamin D deficiency are at significantly higher risk of depression than individuals with normal levels
white/grey overcast sky for 90% of the year is the complete opposite of comfy. you're obviously not from the UK because this country is a depressing shit hole
"Bad weather" is actually really nice. Tropical sunshine is overrated and that shit just stings your eyes and gives you skin cancer >t. Australian who went to Ireland for Uni
Perth lol
I wanted to go to Europe anyhow. Being in Europe is its own selling point, I can take a Ryanair trip to Italy and go see the Roman ruins for what is essentially pocket change.
I greatly appreciated being able to go to Scotland or England on weekends, visit France or Spain on longer breaks, etc. Australia is too big and isolated for that.
Chuds love talking about the traditional life and all that bullshit, but the suicide rates, alcoholism and use of drugs in rural areas are buffling. My grandmother used to tell me stories about all the people that hang themselves in her hometown. I still go there every now and then and everybody is on coke and an alcoholic. Not much to do.
I have worried about that, often. I am a mediocre and boring man, it astounds me that my friends entertain me and that in College I had a generally positive reputation with people.
I have worried about that, often. I am a mediocre and boring man, it astounds me that my friends entertain me and that in College I had a generally positive reputation with people.
Maybe everyone else is kind of mediocre too?
In my case, people think I'm smart. I'm well read, but I'm not smart, I can only regurgitate what other great thinkers and authors say, but I've never had an original thought of my own really. Nobody seems to care though, they're content with listening to me talk about stuff apparently (or at least they invite me to events)
Is this movie more enjoyable if you're Irish? I really liked it but it definitely felt like it was made primarily for an Irish audience and not some random guy in Canada, I bet there's tons of little cultural elements and nuance that I just wouldn't catch. I know the obvious shit like the Civil war metaphor but that's about the extent of it
I'm British and I jived with the humour of it, I think it's definitely something Irish people will appreciate more because they stumble upon these types of characters in their lives (e.g. grandparents with old fashioned attitudes and mannerisms), but I don't think it detracts much
Just finished watching it. I got the connection to the civil war, even though I don't know the full history of it.
But can someone explain the overarching plot of the banshee and some details to me? Cause I feel like a brainlet after watching it. Maybe it will make more sense to irish/english people:
Was it implied that his sister died when she left the island? Because the banshee was looking at her from the mountain, and banshees usually don't herald an animal's death, but a family members' (and she said both of them could die too). And the letter could easily be faked from the woman in the post office (since she was hanging around with the banshee too,repainting the mailbox green. symbolism for ireland, taking sides? Or am I reading too much into all this shit?
Or was it just implied that Padraid would die, either by the cops hand or as a result of the rivalry? (because she's still around at the end)
And secondly, were the the cop+pastor "in on it"? Was any of it planned? all I know of banshee lore is they're supposed to be omens of death, but it sure seemed like there was more supernatural shit or a bigger plot going on, with the pastor constantly asking about the "despair", and if Colm would finally "do something about it", like he was instigating things to escalate. And the cop seemed off too. Was the banshee manipulating things actively? Blaming his son's death on Padraic/his sister?
Irish folk/war-lore lads, where you at? I need some closure for this film cause I feel dumb :3
>too,repainting the mailbox green. symbolism for ireland, taking sides?
That particular bit is just a historic detail. Many post office boxes in Ireland still retain the British crown symbol on them, but they were repainted Green after independence. There's not much else to symbolize here.
As for the Banshee and death, I don't think there was any conspiracy. As they say in the movie, Banshees just sit back and laugh at the inevitable death of people. I think she was heralding the death of Dominic, the Tourettes boy who drowns in the lake. Note that when she's beconing the Siobhan, Dominic is there as well, so the Banshee could actually be aiming at Dominic and not Siobhan to "come over"
>Banshees just sit back and laugh at the inevitable death of people >so the Banshee could actually be aiming at Dominic and not Siobhan to "come over"
See this is what I don't get: which one is it? Is the banshee (or the pastor) actively manipulating things on the island? Sure as frick wasn't helping the kid and knew exactly where his corpse was, she even had the stick that he mysteriously found earlier (which was hers), but all she uses it for is to show the corpse to the cop/his father.
altho nice, I didn't consider that detail. But why was she then just standing at the top of the mountain with Padraic overlooking the sea when Siobhan left, staring? Wouldn't that imply that SOMEONE there would die? Or is the banshee in the entire movie still just guessing, "trying to be accurate", watching everyone?
From all I know of banshee lore (which is just basics from movies, games, wikipedia and books to be fair) they're supposed to just be omens. But the movie made it out like there was multiple levels of manipulation going on, starting with Colm going mad out of nowhere (cutting off an old friend because you reconsider your life impact is fine, but cutting off multiple fingers is not. That's madness no matter how you put it)
What was the meaning of the butterfly that we see in a couple of scenes in the background, and the birds flying in that one scene? In all instances it's clear they are cgi so there must be a reason behind it
I think the fact we have like two or three scenes where characters are just standing on the beach looking out to the mainland and hearing sounds of battle makes it more that the civil war is a distant and unimportant thing to them, but more of a curiosity, something island-dwellers think of as a topic of discussion more than a reality.
>2 friends become bitter enemies
>One "wants peace" so he cuts off 6 fingers to show it
>Other one is stubborn and won't give up
It's definitely about the Civil War and Treaty
Sometimes two guys falling out of a friendship is just two guys falling out of a friendship.
but self mutilation is not just falling out of friendship
Sometimes two guys falling out of a friendship with one taking extreme measures is just two guys falling out of a friendship with one taking extreme measures.
Not even close.
>"I don't want to frick and suck no more"
>every day you keep talking at me I rename the store
That makes sense.
The place the movie takes place seems boring as feck, no wonder people go crazy there.
The UK and Ireland have really shite weather, people spend a lot of time indoors. The pub that they hang out in is only candlelit and very dark.
No wonder there’s a shot of a grey cloudy sky at the end, people must be super depressed there.
>cloudy weather is.... LE BAD
frick off reddit clouds are based
Clouds means rain is coming.
>Rain is.... LE BAD
fricking moron
>The body creates vitamin D from direct sunlight on the skin when outdoors
>Obtaining sufficient vitamin D from natural (nonfortified) food sources alone is difficult
>people with vitamin D deficiency are at significantly higher risk of depression than individuals with normal levels
Go back homosexual, depression is for women to get attention
white/grey overcast sky for 90% of the year is the complete opposite of comfy. you're obviously not from the UK because this country is a depressing shit hole
"Bad weather" is actually really nice. Tropical sunshine is overrated and that shit just stings your eyes and gives you skin cancer
>t. Australian who went to Ireland for Uni
Where are you from in Australia? You could have just gone to Melbourne. But it’s not really constantly raining like in Ireland tho.
>You could have just gone to Melbourne
Why on Earth would anyone WANT to live among the subhumans of Melbourne?
Perth lol
I wanted to go to Europe anyhow. Being in Europe is its own selling point, I can take a Ryanair trip to Italy and go see the Roman ruins for what is essentially pocket change.
I greatly appreciated being able to go to Scotland or England on weekends, visit France or Spain on longer breaks, etc. Australia is too big and isolated for that.
To each their own. I would prefer to make a trip to Tasmania or New Zealand.
Nice to visit. And I guess it did shape us into being pretty tough.
the pub looked really comfy
it was a shithole coastal island in the 1920s what do you expect
Chuds love talking about the traditional life and all that bullshit, but the suicide rates, alcoholism and use of drugs in rural areas are buffling. My grandmother used to tell me stories about all the people that hang themselves in her hometown. I still go there every now and then and everybody is on coke and an alcoholic. Not much to do.
Why would a couple of Irishman be talking about the American Civil War? moron.
(You)
(You)
(You)
Have you ever wondered to yourself, if in all honestly, you yourself are not a boring person?
I have worried about that, often. I am a mediocre and boring man, it astounds me that my friends entertain me and that in College I had a generally positive reputation with people.
I know that I am.
I don't get it either. What's wrong with us?
Maybe everyone else is kind of mediocre too?
In my case, people think I'm smart. I'm well read, but I'm not smart, I can only regurgitate what other great thinkers and authors say, but I've never had an original thought of my own really. Nobody seems to care though, they're content with listening to me talk about stuff apparently (or at least they invite me to events)
I probably am now, yes. In the past I'm confident I wasn't because of the people who wouldn't leave me alone. I won in the end, of course.
All I do with my spare time is drugs and consuming media, I've never thought of myself as not boring.
At least my peers generally consider me witty.
the real problem was that there weren't no fricking trees around. imagine growing up on that island with not a single tree to climb in.
Is this movie more enjoyable if you're Irish? I really liked it but it definitely felt like it was made primarily for an Irish audience and not some random guy in Canada, I bet there's tons of little cultural elements and nuance that I just wouldn't catch. I know the obvious shit like the Civil war metaphor but that's about the extent of it
I'm British and I jived with the humour of it, I think it's definitely something Irish people will appreciate more because they stumble upon these types of characters in their lives (e.g. grandparents with old fashioned attitudes and mannerisms), but I don't think it detracts much
Just finished watching it. I got the connection to the civil war, even though I don't know the full history of it.
But can someone explain the overarching plot of the banshee and some details to me? Cause I feel like a brainlet after watching it. Maybe it will make more sense to irish/english people:
Was it implied that his sister died when she left the island? Because the banshee was looking at her from the mountain, and banshees usually don't herald an animal's death, but a family members' (and she said both of them could die too). And the letter could easily be faked from the woman in the post office (since she was hanging around with the banshee too,repainting the mailbox green. symbolism for ireland, taking sides? Or am I reading too much into all this shit?
Or was it just implied that Padraid would die, either by the cops hand or as a result of the rivalry? (because she's still around at the end)
And secondly, were the the cop+pastor "in on it"? Was any of it planned? all I know of banshee lore is they're supposed to be omens of death, but it sure seemed like there was more supernatural shit or a bigger plot going on, with the pastor constantly asking about the "despair", and if Colm would finally "do something about it", like he was instigating things to escalate. And the cop seemed off too. Was the banshee manipulating things actively? Blaming his son's death on Padraic/his sister?
Irish folk/war-lore lads, where you at? I need some closure for this film cause I feel dumb :3
>too,repainting the mailbox green. symbolism for ireland, taking sides?
That particular bit is just a historic detail. Many post office boxes in Ireland still retain the British crown symbol on them, but they were repainted Green after independence. There's not much else to symbolize here.
As for the Banshee and death, I don't think there was any conspiracy. As they say in the movie, Banshees just sit back and laugh at the inevitable death of people. I think she was heralding the death of Dominic, the Tourettes boy who drowns in the lake. Note that when she's beconing the Siobhan, Dominic is there as well, so the Banshee could actually be aiming at Dominic and not Siobhan to "come over"
>Banshees just sit back and laugh at the inevitable death of people
>so the Banshee could actually be aiming at Dominic and not Siobhan to "come over"
See this is what I don't get: which one is it? Is the banshee (or the pastor) actively manipulating things on the island? Sure as frick wasn't helping the kid and knew exactly where his corpse was, she even had the stick that he mysteriously found earlier (which was hers), but all she uses it for is to show the corpse to the cop/his father.
altho nice, I didn't consider that detail. But why was she then just standing at the top of the mountain with Padraic overlooking the sea when Siobhan left, staring? Wouldn't that imply that SOMEONE there would die? Or is the banshee in the entire movie still just guessing, "trying to be accurate", watching everyone?
From all I know of banshee lore (which is just basics from movies, games, wikipedia and books to be fair) they're supposed to just be omens. But the movie made it out like there was multiple levels of manipulation going on, starting with Colm going mad out of nowhere (cutting off an old friend because you reconsider your life impact is fine, but cutting off multiple fingers is not. That's madness no matter how you put it)
What was the meaning of the butterfly that we see in a couple of scenes in the background, and the birds flying in that one scene? In all instances it's clear they are cgi so there must be a reason behind it
Director/writer categorically denies it was, though he forgives viewers who'd think so.
Were his feelings genuine or was he doing a shit test like a homosexual?