>oh boy I sure do being an innocent civilian doing mushroom hunting in this here for-ACK

>oh boy I sure do being an innocent civilian doing mushroom hunting in this here for-ACK

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    OP is a faggot

    >-ACK
    Die

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You won't die, only get maimed and lose a foot

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Losing a foot will likely kill someone if they don't get a good medical response.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    honestly those things scare me the most. Because you can drop them by the thousands like planting crops, no fricks given. They are tiny and weight close to nothing, I saw vids of forests full of them, scattered all over the place, probably artillery dropped cause this was in the begining of the war, in position occupied by ad-hoc home defense who inflicted casualties on russians with RPGs.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      PTM-3 mines scare me more

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >PTM-3
        Those at least have self-liquidators, and are much larger, easier to spot.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      soviets did the same shit in afghanistan, kids were still being maimed by them yearly when the yanks invaded lmao. americans actually had to clean it up during the occupation, and they did it FOR FREE

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Because you can drop them by the thousands like planting crops
      If they're sp sensitive how come they don't go kapowie when dropped?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There not sensitive at all, multiple people can walk on the same mine before it explodes, plus they aren't armed until they hit the ground.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >There not sensitive at all,
          They're notoriously sensitive

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If I recall it takes up to 40 min to arm. They are so light free falling from sky doesn't damage them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The trick is just to take a lot of prisoners, then force them to clear mined areas. If they refuse, starve, beat, and deny them sleep until they obey or die.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So what, its just a big chinese firecracker?
      Wouldnt wildlife trigger them by the hundreds?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        wildlife is generally intelligent enough to not touch things that smell of man.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hedgehogs also wolf down cigarette butts because it gets them high as frick

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >wildlife is generally intelligent enough to not touch things that smell of man.
          Speaking of intelligent wildlife...

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They ought to train them to bring them to a collection point.

            You just need a big concrete bin for them to drop them in and a handler gives them a treat. Detonating the ones in the bin is easy though dropping them would detonate most of them that survive being picked up by the crow in the first place.
            I wonder if Crows are fricking with mines because a few killed other crows that investigated them and they identified mines as threats that need to be dropped onto hard surfaces from great heights for the sake of all Corvid-kind?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mein Gott

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have the video of one stuck on a hedgehog?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      War crime

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my archives are incomplete

      https://i.imgur.com/wYZTQQ8.jpeg

      honestly those things scare me the most. Because you can drop them by the thousands like planting crops, no fricks given. They are tiny and weight close to nothing, I saw vids of forests full of them, scattered all over the place, probably artillery dropped cause this was in the begining of the war, in position occupied by ad-hoc home defense who inflicted casualties on russians with RPGs.

      for sure a game of where's Waldo id loose
      even worse most are not the Y model, so they do not deactivate over time.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        HE-Hog
        nearly made me spit out my drink

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Poor little fella, hope he'll be ok

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they managed to save the hog by using a stick to pry the mine away from its quills

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I will believe this version of the story and not research the issue any further.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              same

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He'll be fine. If anything, he's even less vulnerable to predators than before.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            and to cars

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don’t worry he’s got a few rings

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        У is not a model but "inert" marking, У = yчeбнaя = literally "study" or "practice" = inert/dummy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hedgehogs have evolved to use ERA
        JESUS CHRIST NATURE, CHILL

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        now that's what I call a Sonic Boom

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          i want you dead

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous
      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mines are pretty fricked up by definition. My "favorite" is the spider of death from the JP233 which has the same British ingenuity that led to the fougasse (napalm landmine from 1940) or VX gas.

        >J-233 anti-runway dispenser pod
        >30x SG-357 runway cratering sub-munitions that are rocket boosted into the runway and explode.
        >215x HB-876 AP mines to slow down runway repair which are the real devilish part
        >they deploy via parachute and have these goofy spider legs to make them always deploy at the right orientation
        >they all have turn over switches so they explode if even slightly disturbed and the sides of the mine are crinkle cut steel to give an AP effect and kill anyone in a wide circle of the mine when disturbed
        >the spider legs are designed to make it tip over towards a bulldozer that pushes it and aim the main warhead roughly at the cab as it detonates
        >the main/top of the mine is a Misnay-Schardin effect platter with grapeshot sized balls of titanium strong enough to punch straight through the blade of a bulldozer and give the poor east german dozer operator a taste of what his ancestors experienced at Austerlitz
        >some of the mines are timer detonated at random intervals to keep EOD on their toes

        I think the only way to disarm it is to shoot/detonate every mine individually which would take days if not weeks which is a long ass time when you are fighting NATO.

        výbušný ježek (Pozemní mina)

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    mines like these are the easiest way to tell which countries are the good guys

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >both ukraine and russia have it
      >the US also had its own version
      dumb argument

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Maybe anon was making a Netzche point

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are proving his point.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the ukrainians have them but haven't used them
        and the US got rid of its

        the US version also self-detonated after a while specifically to avoid UXO problems.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the ukrainians have them but haven't used them
          Literally sprayed all over streets of donetsk city lol

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No they dy-yn

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the russian cries out as he strikes you

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ESL Black person

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the amount of money that will be poured into ukraine in demining when this shitfest ends makes me want to train for explosive removal.

    >picking mushrooms in an active warzone when you could be a rapefugee in europe

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of self-liquidators on those makes them a vile weapon that will maim people and animals for years if not decades.

    (Yes I know russians claim to only use ones with liquidators, but we know they are liars and monsters)

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is mine clearing so slow?
    How can it become faster?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why is mine clearing so slow?

      You have to be very very careful when handling explosives, especially explosives that are designed to explode when tampered. Also you need to be absolutely thorough when clearing them, lest someone get killed afterward and you need to re-sweep the area all over again.

      >How can it become faster?

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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      there are three points at which it can become faster
      better detection
      quicker disposal
      more resilient machines
      ukraine saw some innovation in using thermals to detect mines after sunset because they would be hotter than the surrounding earth. if you could do this with satellite imaging it could be really useful for detecting concentrations, and then drones could be used to actually map out each of those mine fields. that would be a LOT cheaper and quicker than more traditional methods. you could probably use ground penetrating radar too but thats pretty expensive.
      DE like microwaves and lasers might be usable to detonate UXO, it would be very quick and cheap in peacetime, compared to kinetic methods, because your machinery should never be damaged in this process, but the initial capital expenditure will be much higher. the US might invest a fair bit of money in helping ukraine with this post war as a way of developing their own mine clearance technology. clearing mines in a hot zone is obviously quite different to peace time

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is the reason we can't fill Starship 1 with billion of these little mines and scatter them all over russian farmland?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Starship never achieved stable orbit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Starship never attempted to achieve a stable orbit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yet

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Elon won't let you.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because 1 billion of those would weight 75000 metric tons.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because Putin has Elon's piss tapes.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      same reason the war is still going on, the pathetically ass kveching drip feed aid and vatnikstan has not been completely ousted: indecisiveness and cowardice. Literal unironic "escalation managers" are dictating policy

      >inb4 umm its 36d chess move chud!
      whatever makes you cope better

      on the other hand if western leadership were not so pathetically weak and directionless a old prison wise gangbanger like monke would not have attacked. Someone like Reagan and Thatcher leading us/uk would have cooled their jets before they got farther then their swamp drills. Which means roughly half of the vatnik union hardware depos would still exist and be available for future invasions

      so it aint all bad just there is going to be a bigger, vicious and miserable regional war when they attack baltics, poland and ukraine in the coming years

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anyone have the reversed version

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Extremely fricking redpilled fricking post. Frick me I wish western ""leaders"" would grow some fricking balls and finally decide they've had enough of endless russian bullshit. 1930s all fricking over again.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >would still exist and be available
        And rapidly becoming as irrelevant as a theoretical depot of M4 shermans in Arizona. Borderline useless equipment worth only it's scrap value, that by 2040 would be entirely useless.
        But they could have tried somewhere else, true, like khazakhstan.
        To the same result, almost certainly.
        Except with less effect on the world market, and causing a complete and permanent split between China and Russia.
        The west has bunged this shit so hard.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The west has bunged this shit so hard.
          They're not playing solitaire.

          There's no perfect plays in these things, you don't know what pressures or other plans are involved and there's also the question of what domestic politics even permits.
          When you have an opponent, the end result is never going to be exactly what you want.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Legions of African rats will be trained postwar to find these

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Gibs method of positive reinforcement trains rodents so well multiple generations inherit collective memory.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How does the detonator on these work?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's a two part explosive compound, separated by a crushable wall. Once it breaks it explodes.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so you have to step on it? sliding it on something like a shovel and lifting it up is not going to set it off?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The recommendation is a 3m stick of soft material like plastic that won't frag if it goes off

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Are you telling me there are currently job openings in Ukraine for demining work where you walk around with a plastic bonking stick wacking butterfly mines until they explode?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              you can listen yourself here from the horses mouth how they are doing it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the bloke kind of resembles Totalbiscuit.
                >Ladies and gentlemen. I am here to ask one simple question. WTF is a PFM-1?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                F

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so you have to step on it?
          Yes. Guaranteed force of action is 5kg (11lbs) but there are reports just holding thicker wing with fingers can set off mine.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its fairly simple in that they're a spring like most detonators, but it has a staging when they're deployed that means they go into a sort of half-wiener arming phase once released.
      After that, if the plastic housing gets deformed and it doesn't take much weight- it doesn't have the integrity to hold the spring back any further and it just 'pops' the spring free to hit the detonator.
      You can't disarm them or anything, just blew them up where they lay

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The PFM-1 has a plastic body and is filled with approximately 37 grams of liquid High-Explosive (HE).
      >The fuze is hydraulic pressure operated and incorporates an arming delay.
      >The landmine is normally coloured green, Khaki brown or sand-brown.
      Puting pressure on thicker wing pushes liquid explosives into cylinder that pushes detonator towards spike, spike penetrating detonator ignites it.
      The landmine has a thin wing and a thicker wing with the thicker wing containing the liquid-explosive

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        so i could just grab it by the thinner wing and toss it in a safe direction?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's liquid inside soft plastic anon, the act of throwing it could very easily apply pressure to the detonator because of inertia acting on the liquid.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >so you have to step on it?
          Yes. Guaranteed force of action is 5kg (11lbs) but there are reports just holding thicker wing with fingers can set off mine.

          There not sensitive at all, multiple people can walk on the same mine before it explodes, plus they aren't armed until they hit the ground.

          How does the detonator on these work?

          Pressing on the wings works as a pump that moves two liquids closer together. There's a valve thing so it doesn't flow back. The total process takes 5kg total but that can be applied a bit at a time meaning it could only be a fart away from going bang if its been there a while.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            And the plastic inside becomes brittle as shit over time making these happy little guys extra volatile

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Pressing on the wings works as a pump that moves two liquids closer together.
            Two liquids is in the original american blu-44. Russian PFM-1 has single container with liquid explosive.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's possible. But I wouldn't risk that. At least use long stick with plastic shovel tied to the end (Soviet SOP).

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ack posters go leave

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can you throw rocks at them to trigger them? Just fly a bunch of gravel over these bad boys

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah throw a rock at them.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can you throw rocks at them to trigger them? Just fly a bunch of gravel over these bad boys

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's even the point of these other than killing children?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Don't step on it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'll step on your balls.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Another Russian influencer, Semyon Pegov, reportedly had his leg injured and was hospitalized as a result of these mines.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            sucks to be him, I guess?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >semen pegger

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      None, its a spiteful, pyrrhic terror weapon for making land you cant take useless for anyone to use.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Serious Question:
    Are there any boots that could protect, as in at least you don't get your feet blow open, out there in market?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You could buy sabatons which would keep your feet and toes connected when they get blasted, but it would still likely tear ligaments and tendons from the force alone.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >PFM1: Charge: 37 g
      >F1: Filling weight 60 g
      I don't think so.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are anti mine boots that look like heavy standard boot. Such can save feet from amputation. Foot and leg would fractured in many places but fast casevac and good surgeon can save foot (victim would never run again though).
      "Spider" boot user would have light injuries.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You will need steel boots covered in rubber boots with high heels

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Are there any boots that could protect, as in at least you don't get your feet blow open, out there in market?
      I think there's a few models of these around now.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Islam et al.
        Truly experts in explosives

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just imaged putting some of those under toilet seats in Russian barracks, or under padding in chairs of russian recruitment offices.
    Ukrainians do have a lot of spies and sympatizers on the Russian side.
    Would be kino.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >toilet seats in Russian barracks
      i see a problem with that plan

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        shit, you got me. that my Western dekadent mentality talking through me.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I genuinely don't understand how these things detonate. where is the trip mechanism of it? is it the bending of the wings? is it a shock sensor? at what point in the drop are they armed?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Have you tried reading the thread?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        just got to that diagram/explanation. my bad. it just seems surprising to me that it would be that little pressure required and be reliable for preventing accidental detonation and such.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >at what point in the drop are they armed?
      About 60-600 seconds after safety pin removed. Depends on the ambient temperature, in the cold it takes longer.
      Safety pin removal releases arming pin, spring pushes it into armed position but pin cant move fast because it is blocked by cylinder filled with viscous liquid, liquid slowly moves into another chamber through micro hole this is why it takes time, and provides necessary delay for mine to land on teh ground after launch (ejection out of cargo conatainer).

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just got to that diagram/explanation. my bad. it just seems surprising to me that it would be that little pressure required and be reliable for preventing accidental detonation and such.

      >The mine is stored with a safety pin securing the detonating piston - once the pin is removed, the piston is gradually displaced due to the pressure of the spring-loaded hydraulic ejector, following which it comes into contact with the actual detonator and arms the mine. This process takes between 1 and 40 minutes, allowing the mines to be properly deployed or dropped from the air during this time.
      >Deformation of the mine's polyethylene casing (due to, for example, being stepped on by a soldier) causes the piston to violently strike the detonator and cause immediate detonation.
      >Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

      very ingenious in its simplicity, tbh.
      But than again, it's a copy of american design.

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