Now that Patriot has proved itself as the best medium ranged missile defense system on the market can we rewind the clocks and revisit when it was a p...

Now that Patriot has proved itself as the best medium ranged missile defense system on the market can we rewind the clocks and revisit when it was a piece of shit. What made original Patriot so bad and modern versions so devastating effective?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Like all tech things in the past decades: software updates. Not even kidding, it's crazy how much you can get out of existing hardware with updated software

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Correct. Well, the interceptors also got major upgrades and new versions. But the software component in these systems are massively important. Anons think Silicon Valley just makes Macs and social media. The American MIC makes full use of the world’s strongest software industry.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah man but they put the launch button to the middle when it used to be on the left, that kinda sucks.

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The original wasn't bad. Where are you getting this?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >have SAM designed to counter aircraft
        >it ends up being so good that they also try to use it against ballistic missiles
        >works somewhat, biggest problem is that they never restarted the system and it was left on for weeks at a time
        >this proves it was a shitty system because it couldn't do a job it wasn't designed to do

        explain yourself, homosexual

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The original wasn't bad.
      It was made against planes and had 20% success against missiles, now it's 95%.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It’s hilarious that it has outperformed IRIS-T

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol no

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yea. Iris-t has been an underperformer

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's always the case with Germ*idshit equipment. They always overengineer shit while not being able to get basics done first.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can I have proofs sir?

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What made original Patriot so bad and modern versions so devastating effective?

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Patriot has 10% success rate and breaks down all the time
    What the frick are you talking about op

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Proof?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        My country got them. When we were testing it they wouldn't intercept missiles at all and only one hit was lucky. Also all the wires in that shit are white so we had to call amerimutt technicians to fix that shit and they did not even provide blueprints.

        Thanks I guess

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          This didn’t happen

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            If you have one of those then go ahead and test it. Also stop sending us rc drone cars, they are trash.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I asked for proof not some made up copeing mechanism

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          So you don't have any proof?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Also all the wires in that shit are white
          This is how I know you're full of shit. It would cost more to get all the wiring white instead of just going with industry standard color coded wiring. You're story would have been easily believable, but vatBlack folk can't help but embellish.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I saw Patriot at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
          He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
          I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
          The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
          When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's a Raytheon employee

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If what you say is true, then explain this:
      1. Why is the US making still the worst missile systems?
      2. Why do other countries buy them?
      I already checked your "source".

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        USA has no real experience in war with technologically advanced country such as Russia therefore they have no idea what truly is good for countering such technology.
        Second
        USA can't survive without selling weapons to other countries, they need constant money laundering wars, the one for example was set up in Ukraine but America fricked up and now caused ww3 instead of slow comfy war which would milk Europe dry. The global security is in danger and if usa won't destroy Russia, Russia will destroy them.

        Third
        USA spends lots of money into online shill propaganda such as is seen in here. They also shill that their weapons are good so Europe will buy them, examples are Bradleys which are supposed to be armoured transportation vehicles but their thin plating and heavy Canon made it into small tank, they also can intercept missiles but one shot form rifle with kill everyone is inside.
        Abrams for example are good but too heavy for Eastern euroean front as it is mostly mud and swamp, they get stuck all the time and won't advance making them into dead weight for army. Javelins were countered by putting cuck cage on top of tank.

        Overcomplicated technology with no real purpose and effectiveness

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >USA spends lots of money into online shill propaganda such as is seen in here.
          Ok, Lee

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >technologically advanced country such as Russia
            >technologically advanced
            >advanced

            Good one anon

            Are you going to delete this post when everyone laughs at you?

            My God it's true, the orcs are so pathetic and unthinking they simply look at what they're doing and accuse everyone else of doing it.

            >Lots of coping and seethe
            >No arguments
            I am actually starting believe the original post

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Well if you don't make an argument that actually correlates with reality, no one will take it seriously.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              there is nothing to argue because you'll just call it BS or bend the truth

              you are actually too moronic to talk to, brown boy

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >technologically advanced country such as Russia
          >technologically advanced
          >advanced

          Good one anon

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Are you going to delete this post when everyone laughs at you?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          My God it's true, the orcs are so pathetic and unthinking they simply look at what they're doing and accuse everyone else of doing it.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >USA has no real experience in war with technologically advanced country such as Russia
          Wdym? All russian weapon specifications not only are well known, but you can literally buy them and many NATO countries have these weapons.
          >technologically advanced country such as Russia
          puzzie struggles to make 90 nm microchips, which is 30 yo tech. What tech advancements are you talking about?
          >therefore they have no idea what truly is good for countering such technology.
          But the puzzian tech level and weapons are well known, what are you talking about?
          Didn't read your bullshit further, you're clearly dream this shit up above:

          Patriot has 10% success rate and breaks down all the time
          What the frick are you talking about op

          My country got them. When we were testing it they wouldn't intercept missiles at all and only one hit was lucky. Also all the wires in that shit are white so we had to call amerimutt technicians to fix that shit and they did not even provide blueprints.

          Thanks I guess

          You're russian, correct? It seems to me that you're just citing your propaganda about stonks puzzia.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Im slovakian, we test weapons which America send us. Many many failures, it tears my heart we had to send our artillery called Katka to shitkraine just to get executed.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Are you going to explain your bullshit about russian tech superiority and other shit?
              Or are you Slovakian from alaska oblast?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Russian military tech is in par with any advanced country. S300 are Russian for example and they are 40 year old

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Russian military tech is in par with any advanced country

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                fellow compatriot, get a lobotomy.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Slovakian
              I can believe this. It talks like a brainwashed /misc/troon, not like an actual Russian.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Does it mean you are Slovakian?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >muh microchips
            They struggle to make ball bearings and hydraulic pumps.
            Too bad every second French and Chinese company is happy to smuggle things in for them so they'll never run out.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Do you have sources about smuggling? I hear that a lot, but I doubt they receive even 10% of what they need. Especially from France.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                not him , but most components are also used for commercial purposes albeit slightly gimped. not hard to imagine them smuggling in some.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, but EU / the US forbade not only military but double purpose parts.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >technologically advanced country such as Russia
          Kek

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >technologically advanced country such as Russia
          I laughed so hard I almost couldn't breathe.

          This is too effective to be a vatnik weapon. You must be a bored burger.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Overcomplicated technology with no real purpose and effectiveness
          we need to put up a fricking salt circle around this board or something to keep out the ghost of Pierre Sprey
          GO AWAY YOU MEDIOCRE JAZZ PRODUCING FRICK YOU'RE DEAD, ITS OVER
          JUST GO INTO THE FRICKING LIGHT ALREADY

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Calm down bro, you getting stoke

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >if usa won't destroy Russia, Russia will destroy them.
          Russian can't even take Marinka.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >USA can't survive without selling weapons to other countries
          Let's check the numbers:
          >US arms exports (2021): $103 billion
          >US GDP (2021): $23.32 trillion
          And for comparison:
          >Russian arms exports (2021): $14.16 billion
          >Russian GPD (2021): $1.78 trillion
          Now it's time for a little long division:
          >US GDP from arms exports (2021): 0.44%
          >Russian GDP from arms exports (2021): 0.79%
          Math is fun!

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >treating a troll thread seriously
    The TBM capability of original Patriot systems was theoretical. Raytheon engineers updated systems on the fly during the first Gulf War. Still, the proximity fused missiles were still too slow. By the time the missile triggered the explosive, the TBMs had already passed by. At best, they could knock Scuds off course. PAC2 and GEM enhancements allowed the explosives to explode quicker, but were still reliant on a fragmentation warhead. The PAC3s were the real game changer, being hit to kill.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >things can be continuously improved
    amazing, OP.
    the only issue with making something work is the cost incurred doing so. was it worth it compared to other options?

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >what are upgrades
    Anon, the original F-15's radar had to choose between tracking a target or scanning for bogeys; the latest F-15 radar can track, scan, AND perform electronic attacks all at once

    Upgreyds make

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Early patriots had desync issues between internal clocks.

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why all these posts when the patriot hasn't even been used in ukraine yet?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was used yesterday to thwart a massive Russian missile attack. Out of multiple bombers and some surface ships something like 8 missiles got through

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nope
        Some missiles were shot down and there's no proof about what shot them down

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          massive cope. Is that what forced you to write “ Why all these posts when the patriot hasn't even been used in ukraine yet?” I can just feel the insecurity dripping off that post.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            So it hasn't been used then
            Jesus Christ the yanks are getting worse than the bongs at this point

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Patriots are defo the new star streak

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Frick off Warriortard

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you moronic. Warriortard is pro American. Here’s an active warriortard thread

                [...]

                .You can spot it because he chooses systems where the American one is verifiably better

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Frick off Warriortard

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes the JASSM does tend to get you riled up.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Patriots are the only operational BMD in that part of theater. IRIS-t is 200 miles away. It’s great that you’re upset about these new Patriot kills

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Missiles fired from Murmansk and Caspian sea
            >Opposite sides of Ukraine
            Are Americans just making shit up at this point?
            There's been hundreds of cruise missiles intercepted and now we suddenly decide it's the patriot because some guy on twitter said so?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Never this effectively and never over patriots AO. Incredible what Patriot has managed to do here

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Half the posts here are half remembered twitter shit. Don't come here for any intelligent thoughts

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Some missiles were shot down
          83% exactly

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Look into the us equipment provided and you start noticing things
          Heavy amount of footage of most equipment except yank stuff
          Huge amount of "reports" from "commentators" saying how great the latest lockheed slop is
          It's a lot cheaper to buy a good reputation than actually build one

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >most ATGM videos are javelin
            >American guided rockets single-handedly halted the Russian advance
            loving every second of your meltdown

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Heavy amount of footage of most equipment except yank stuff
            I wonder if that requirement the Americans have where you aren't allowed to distribute videos of their stuff in action has anything to do with that?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          THANK YOU all these posts about the patriot system and I haven’t even seen a twitter screenshot saying they were used. Feels like a fricking psyop

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            We’re not here to spoon feed you while you reply to yourself

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >is that multiple people disagreeing with me in my safe space?
              >must be samegayging
              where’s the proof it was patriot?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >and I haven’t even seen a twitter screenshot saying they were used
            you are a moron

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Jack Kirby himself just stated the other day that the patriot system is reliable versus cruise missiles and drones being specifically designed for ballistic missiles and aircraft.

        It's also strictly directional and needs multiple batteries with different facings unlike an IRIS-T battery which has vertical takeoff and is omnidirectional, being able to attack a target in a 360° radius.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Unreliable I mean

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Damn that’s crazy. It’s funny how iris-t has such great on paper capabilities but gets outperformed by Patriot the moment it shows up.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well if comic book writer jack Kirby says their reliable im inclined to believe him

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do not question the news citizen

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Source? That’s a rather bold claim

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shooting down missiles is hard and they've had 30+ years to get better at it.

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    America is always best in class. Just look at GMLRS and PrSM

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus this fricking thread. First a lot of the initial high profile failures came down to a simple dumb clock error in software:
    >The radar system had successfully detected the Scud and predicted where to look for it next. However, the timestamps of the two radar pulses being compared were converted to floating point differently: one correctly, the other introducing an error proportionate to the operation time so far (100 hours) caused by the truncation in a 24-bit fixed-point register. 100 hours meant the system's internal clock had drifted by one-third of a second, and due to the missile's speed this was equivalent to a miss distance of 600 meters. As a result, the difference between the pulses was wrong, so the system looked in the wrong part of the sky and found no target. With no target, the initial detection was assumed to be a spurious track and the missile was removed from the system. No interception was attempted, and the Scud impacted on a makeshift barracks in an Al Khobar warehouse, killing 28 soldiers, the first Americans to be killed from the Scuds that Iraq had launched against Saudi Arabia and Israel.

    Second it was initially designed for anti-aircraft, so it used a proximity fuse and aimed for center of mass. Which is exactly the right choice vs aircraft, but prox fuse introduces some delay, and vs missiles which have the warhead in the front and are faster/narrower aiming for center of mass then prox fuse meant they would generally end up hitting the back half of the missile, which in terminal intercept is useless rocket has already burned out and it's on a ballistic trajectory.

    The fundamentals of it weren't bad, the radar worked, the links worked, the missile worked and could maneuver, but it got pressed into service too fast in a role it wasn't initially designed for and it showed. They polished that up over the next decade. Obviously it gained enormously more computational power and more advanced (PAC-3) missiles too.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Again, the memes, high profile coverage, investigation and so on are all from like 1991-1993 or so. 30 years ago. Yes, it had 7 years before that since its IOC and it'd have been nice if it had been put through the wringer vs missiles earlier, but 80s was a different time in terms of focus and posture/doctrine too (and even worse computers). It was a scandal in the good free nation way, frickups couldn't be brushed under the rug and it got lots of attention which helped ensure it then got worked on.

      But by 00s that had paid off and it was already pretty solid, and it has improved since. This shouldn't be some surprise.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    According to computer history the early Patriot missile had a memory leak, not a problem if it was regularly rebooted but some US units kept theirs on all the time, this caused the system to lag and the delay meant that the missiles would fire miliseconds too late.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No wonder the patriot system has been getting so many foreign sales. It makes me giggle remembering that surface to air was always the Soviets bread and butter and now the US just makes better systems without much effort

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    How will it counter hypersonics?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      By existing. It’s been intercepting hypersonics since the 90s

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Missile defense has come an extremely long way since the 1990s. Sensors and computing power are essential to missile defense, as are networks for detecting launches. These are all orders of magnitude more powerful than the early days of missile defense when the best option was to shoot a missile roughly in the path of an incoming one and then detonate a nuclear warhead on it and hope it took out the incoming missile. You don't see these now because nuclear interceptors are banned aside from a small number left from before the treaty.

    Obviously, with modern kinetic kill vehicles actually hitting ICBMs, using a nuclear warhead would radically up interception, but having a rival detect your doing it would make them just built more nukes, negating the benefit and escalating tensions.

    The idea of hitting an ICBM with a kinetic kill was a pipe dream when the US bluffed about it originally. Then we had the Alaska interceptors finally get to where assigning three to a target gives you better than 99% odds to take it out. These things are hideously expensive though, so they don't work against even Russia's much reduced arsenal. They are basically for Iran or North Korea, who would only be sending a few missiles.

    But now we even have Aegis able to destroy ICBMs. Those launchers are on US destroyers around the world and on land in Asia and Europe. Other Aegis missiles can take out IRBMs or potentially target either if launched very early in the flight path.

    Missile defense for small objects has also moved ahead by light years. Iron Dome would be unthinkable during the Gulf War. That's the power of network speeds and computers that can crunch data from tons of sensors quickly. Lasers offer a whole new potential game changer because even an ICBM coming down at Mach 18 is essentially standing still for a laser (getting the laser there is another issue, they won't be used for long range targets any time soon, but they might take out other missiles from fighters.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The Mitsubishi F-3 has such a giant powerplant just for this reason, using it to destroy incoming missiles with lasers.

      Drones and fighters could be used to help fix the distance problem with lasers and lighter than air drones offer highly persistent sensor platforms that could conceivably launch interceptors in the future.

      Comparing 90s systems to today's is just nonsense. The same system names are used, but the modifications are night and day.

      It's like comparing the latest F-15 with the initial ones. The new ones would absolutely stomp.

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    100% Kill Rate

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      How I love American missiles and tech. Though I doubt it has 100% kill rate

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Idk, NATO don't tend to lie unlike russians.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it really that hard to write Kongsberg correctly?
      On another note, these were used to protect the White House. Not sure if they still are.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        AFAIK they still are. You can see some of them on google earth if you look really closely on certain rooftops. White house surroundings arent 3D so it was a bit tricky.
        Last time i checked i couldn't find any so maybe they did something about that.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      18 is a small sample size and I think they are counting ones that crashed harmlessly into fields as "intercepted."

      They used more aircraft than missiles. That might be because this was partly training, but I also imagine it's because of systems faliure in the planes or missiles.

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >IRIS-T already confirmed 100% effective
    >No Patriot news
    https://english.nv.ua/nation/iris-t-shows-100-success-today-more-of-these-systems-needed-air-force-says-50280556.html

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      That’s not a legitimate source and is months old. Patriot slayed last night

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >That’s not a legitimate source
        Directly from Ukies
        >months old
        Russian missile tech didn't advance from then.
        >Patriot slayed last night
        Proofs? Post Patriot kino if so.

        Iris kino: https://twitter.com/Euan_MacDonald/status/1593158987800641536

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          That is a blog post. It’s not the country of Ukraine.
          >post patriot kino
          Patriot doesn’t do publicity intercepts like that kek worthy video you posted. Patriot only cares about results as we can tel by yesterdays mass shootdown of missiles by patriot

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >publicity intercepts
            You think they had a deal with ruzzia to shoot a missile just then an there so someone could film the impact?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >That is a blog post. It’s not the country of Ukraine.
            https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1587085912692883456
            Official words from Ukrainian spokesman. IRIS-T is DAMN good.

            Patriot is... unknown, but let's not hope after the embarrassing track records it shows effectiveness better than rough 50-60%.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              That’s not a “ukranian spokesman”

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yuriy Ignat
                Seems to be legit.

                >after the embarrassing track records it shows effectiveness better than rough 50-60%.
                it has 95% you moron

                Proof?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                ?t=283

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Holy shit I knew the patriot was good but I didn’t know it was THAT good

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >23min video
                >this reply in 3mins
                Make it less obvious next time.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The video was timestamped. It starts exactly at the relevant part

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Such a shill reply too lmao
                Sounded like someone from an infomercial

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                In Ukraine? I don't think so. Prove the 95% hit ratio isn't done in test conditions (test conditions that previously didn't detect its horrid performance). Iris-T is confirmed to be 90-100% depending on exact source in actual battlefield conditions.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >after the embarrassing track records it shows effectiveness better than rough 50-60%.
              it has 95% you moron

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              There is still no official or unofficial confirmation that patriot is being used yet
              Getting a bit embarrassing for our American friends...

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                We have official confirmation that it's been deployed. Thus, it's highly likely it was just uses last night. Not sure why we're all still arguing here, it's clear that Russia has lost most of its ability to hit Ukraine with missiles at this point

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's it?
                We also have confirmation half a dozen other missile intercept systems are in Ukraine
                Why couldn't it be them?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You are now learning how open source “intelligence “ works

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                We have had one twitter post saying a bunch of cruise missiles were shot down. No mention of the patriot system. There is no indication the patriot system is even active in Ukraine yet.
                There’s has been a bunch of threads but not one single shred of evidence

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It’s the best anti missile system in Ukraine they are definitely using it. Where did this unsourced cope of the patriots being kept in their shipping containers come from

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                All I am asking is just one tiny little piece of evidence that the patriot system was used in this shoot down. No arguments, no cope. It shouldn’t be hard. Why can no one provide even one piece of evidence?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The evidence is that it’s patriot territory. Do you think all interceptions are filmed from launch to intercept? Are you genuinely moronic. Just say sorry to patriot and move on

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The missiles were fired into Ukraine from the north and south. Does the patriot cover the entirety of Ukraine? What territory does the patriot cover?
                Any announcement official or unofficial would be welcomed. Anything other than you just repeating what you heard some other anon say with no evidence

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                > Does the patriot cover the entirety of Ukraine?
                kek yes. It’s the iris-t that has the gaps because they only have 2 systems.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/04/answering-call-heavy-weaponry-supplied.html
                4 IRIS-T
                3 Patriots

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Actually worse than that. The 4 IRIS entries are whole systems. For Patriot there is a battery from Germany and just 2 additional launchers from Netherlands.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh shit so I guess they were shot down by IRIS then

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Most likely yes

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The missiles were shot down in patriot territory
                >The patriot territory is all of Ukraine
                >so any missile ever shot down in Ukraine is now assumed to be shot down by the patriot system
                >it cannot be any of the systems that were shooting down missiles before the patriot arrived a week ago
                Jesus Christ your argument is dumber than I thought. At least before I thought it was based on some dumb twitter map. But now it’s just based on pure moronation

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Do you realise that makes your entire argument moot?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Proof it’s not being used?

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    if i were russia i would just keep launching decoys at ukraine. is there a reason they don't do this?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They don't even have the electronics to do this

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wdym under a decoy? A missile without a warhead? For what purpose? So they run out of AA rockets?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        yes, they've done it before in this war and there's videos of it and wreckage of some that ukraine has shot down.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Makes no sense. I don't know the exact numbers, but missile body is the most expensive thing.
          Also, you have to have these decoy missiles, and russia struggles even with armed ones :^)

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            the decoys are often old cold war era missiles that can draw in ukrainian air defense and they are already paid for, old stock.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              they already do that

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I find it funny: when the US announced that they're going to supply Ukraine with Patriot systems, russia immediately launched the campaign how bad these Patriots are, but also threatened not to supply them.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Now that Patriot has proved itself as the best medium ranged missile defense system on the market can we rewind the clocks and revisit when it was a piece of shit. What made original Patriot so bad and modern versions so equally fricking SHIT?"

    LMFAO, NAFO on suicide watch
    SHAHED changed warfare, and US MIC has no fricking earthly clue what to do anymore.

    SHAHED™
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HESA_Shahed_136
    >1 single Shahed=$10k
    >Warhead weight: 60-1001lbs
    >Range: 600-1500miles
    >Speed: 115mph

    Patriot Missile System™
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIM-104_Patriot
    >Single Patriot-missile system=$1Billion
    >Single Patriot missile=$3million
    >Single Patriot missile salvo:$18million (6 rockets)

    for the cost of a SINGLE patriot-missile battery, Russia could produce enough Shaheds to to eat every patriot™-missile globally produced, EVER.
    >ALL patriot missiles ever produced=$30,000,000,000Billion
    >($3million per missile x 10,000 approx patriot™ missiles producted)
    additionally, a single Patriot™ battery requires 90 operators to maintain and deploy the system,
    and 13 weeks of training.

    SHAHED v. Patriot™
    >1 single Shahed=$10k
    >($10k x 10,000 no. of patriot™ missiles globally produced=$1,000,000,000)
    Or THE COST OF A SINGLE PATRIOT BATTERY.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >for the cost of a SINGLE patriot-missile battery, Russia could produce enough Shaheds to to eat every patriot™-missile globally produced, EVER.
      Too bad they can't afford that, lmao

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      rajesh, it's called geranium now, bloody b***h! do the needful!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >using patriots on sneed

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shaheds are a complete flop vatnik moron. They achieved absolutely shit for months. Completely useless joke of a system. They get eaten alive by 50y old systems.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Well then fricking do it b***hboy. All I see is russia launching handfuls of missiles at UA that get intercepted. Go and produce your thousand shahed drones and eat those interceptors.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      From your own "source"
      >Shashed:
      >Unit cost: unknown, (various estimates from $10,000 to €50,000)
      >Patriot:
      >Unit cost: for a single missile US$4 million
      Dont skip school pajeet, reading is an important skill in life

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    KNEEL

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      spoopsy

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