I had a friend that handloaded .44 mag rounds with sabot wrapped .38 projectiles. I'll preface this by saying he was kind of a shady guy. Anyway, what he did was recovered .38 slugs that were already shot out of a different gun, but weren't deformed horribly. Then he put them in a sabot and handloaded those in .44 special cases and used them as his daily carry. His rationale for this is if he ever had to fire in self defense, he had no faith in the "justice system" to see it that way. After how Kyle Rittenhouse was treated (and many other cases), I can't say I blame him. Anyway his plan was just shoot and leave if ever faced with a self defense scenario. If he were ever apprehended, not only would the .38 slugs be a different caliber than his gun, they would have the forensic rifling pattern engraved from a totally different weapon! The sabot was designed to pretty much disintegrate into tiny plastic bits (it was separate parts instead of one big piece).
I can’t imagine these being accurate
if the cops know enough to find him how does he plan to explain his frankenrounds that match the caliber used in the killing?
He's actually used these before, and it worked beautifully. Obviously he emptied the revolver. I know it's a very difficult concept for your feeble brown brain to grasp, try to keep up.
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>I had a friend
>He's actually used these before
Okay, 'fess up OP. Who did you kill+
Right. Your "friend" is lucky to have a "friend" like you spilling the beans. Now it's premeditated and on record. Loser.
>retard can't even figure out how many shots he fired
What an excellent reliable source.
Pic related is the 1964 fusion between the 357 and 44 Mag.
Basically 357 Maximum(or better) that fits into a normal frame revolver or small levergun(Winchester 92 or a Marlin 94).
Your friend is being dumb about things that don't matter, but that's probably common for him.
Sure, shoot one of zogs feral brown pets after it attacks you and then turn yourself in at the police station with tears in your eyes begging to be forgiven.
FUCK that. That's what my friend said. The SECOND he stops firing, there's no way to link him to the slugs he pumped into the feral brown beast. I know this concept has glowzogs absolutely TERRIFIED right now
I hope your "friend" doesn't carry a cellphone and still wears a mask in public.
Even better, he carries a cell phone linked to an identity he wants to frame, and wears a very lifelike silicone mask that makes him look like the target. That's only on high grade ops tho
you're not wrong about the system, but chill out and be more mature and don't say so much online. You could get in a perfectly legitimate SD situation, and the DA will pull out your past online posts to tar you, and you'll go to prison just like Adam Scarsella
You know forensic ballistics is complete bullshit, right? Er shit sorry, I mean "your friend" knows this? It's not even admissable as evidence
no proof. Nice try glowfag
Proof of what? Ballistic forensics is simply not admissable as evidence, full stop. I should specify that means as evidence upon which a case is made or judged. They can still be included to reinforce a theory, but that's it. You'd need to prove it some other way
Schizophrenic retard thread. Normal factory load .44 magnum JHPs will absolutely kill anyone and any animal short of a rhino or elephant.
You are either a bot or another moron with a feeble brown brain. The fact that you don't have the reading comprehension capability to even have a basic, rudimentary grasp of the point of my post pretty much glaringly proves that. Now fuck off
>Ballistic forensics is simply not admissable as evidence,
repeating the retarded, baseless claims from your feverish, defective brown brain isn't PROOF, turdskin. Fuck off.
You're asking to prove something that simply is. Where's your proof that forensic ballistics IS admissable as evidence, then, since you evidently went through great lengths because of it
Keep coping and seething, glowfag scum. None of your panicking thread derailment and demoralization feeble mindedness will work here. I'm gonna seed this idea on the internet far and wide. I'm sure you don't mind LOL.
Now cope, seethe and dilate you powerless fuck
picrel is you, except brown. Here's all the proof in the world that you are wrong. https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=ballistic+fingerprinting
You can't accept that you're wrong, because your feeble brown brain has only a very very rudimentary grasp of reality.
So you didn't Google it then
No bro ballistic forensics is made up bullshit, it's like a polygraph but less people know about how fake it is. The truth is at best they can figure out the type of gun and maybe a model but that is stretching it.
When people say the gun is a match for the bullet that literally just means it has a similar rifling pattern. Now maybe in the 60's when no one knew what they were doing that was fine but in today's world fucking everything uses nearly identical rifling. Rifling really is the only thing they can go off of and if you wanna throw them off just get hollow points that actually expand, they can't magically unflatten a bullet to examine the rifling.
About the only thing you'll have a decent chance of not getting an intact base from is Golden Sabres.
And yeah, it's mostly bullshit, but if they have possession of the gun in question and brass it's possible to get a lot more specific.
Your writing style is manic. Are you on meth or some other CNS stimmy?
Not trying to be hostile, I just want to help you be more self-aware
>Your writing style is manic. Are you on meth or some other CNS Stimmy?
No my brain's just naturally high output. Naturally superior. I know it's a challenge for you to keep up.
You're really overdriven, I bet if you chill out, get some sleep, and look at your posts 12+ hours from now you will see how manic it is. It's a bit much and you do yourself/your arguments no favors by being this way.
>repeating the retarded, baseless claims from your feverish, defective brown brain isn't PROOF, turdskin. Fuck off.
"Muh bullet fingerprint" is the positive claim requiring proof. Can you cite any real world cases where it resulted in a conviction?
Glowzog mutt murimutt lardclaps zogolemutt? Glowieglowieglowie zog mutt zog zog, zog zog mutt glowie murilard.
Your ability to spew buzzwords doesn't change the fact that zoomers are retarded and can't into opsec. Go back to r/basedandredpilled.
You are not addressing the fact that a .38 bullet will not even stabilize coming out of a .44 bore, like at all, it will not even hit at 7 yards.
A JHP .44 +P will pass through a target and off into the horizon never to be found again, if it hits a brick wall chunks will fly off further obscuring any identifiable bullet weight or manufacturer.
I feel like you watched the dark knight rises scene on repeat and convinced it was real in your lost-cause schizophrenic brain
>words and cope
See videos above, and continue with your denial coping.
You have to wake up in 6 hours for your next shift over at langley don't you? Better get to bed
Just wear gloves or use a mag loader with common caliber?? Not to mention CSI brain has people think ballistic fingerprinting is far better than it is.
Finally, a Schizo post to break up the monotony of Ukraine threads.
I carry .45 Super with the cases wiped down for prints, but you do you.
Here's a GREAT video
So anyway, something my friend told me that really gave me a boner.
When I asked him where he got the slugs that were already fired to put in the sabots to reload, he said "it depends". Sometimes he did firings into soft targets like ballistics gel with a special bench rig with a barrel (that he then hid or destroyed). Sometimes he went to the range to see what he could recover there. 9mm slugs worked great and the soil around here is clay. Then he told me something that gave me a real boner
He said that there was a range where literal glownigz to go practice target shooting. Sometimes they'd even do their little quals or whatever. But usually there's nobody there. He went there and recovered slugs from the dirt. He then told me that he knows of lots of ranges like this. What made it so thrilling for him was he KNOWS that glowmorons service weapons are ballistically printed BEFORE THEY'RE EVEN ISSUED. So all of that's in a glownig database. So when these slugs get recovered after their fired somewhere, the fore-end's sicks wieners will put run it through that database and BAM it's INSTANTLy matched to said glownig's service weapon. That glownig will then have a lotta splainin' to do! LOL!!!!! Man my friend is crazy sharp.
Go to bed schizo
are you inviting me to your bed?
>phone location data places anon at the murder scene
>he's previously spent a lot of time rooting in the dirt in shooting ranges where bullets like the one in the body can be found
>also he posted on PrepHole that he had a bunch of weird custom bullets for untraceably killing people
Yeah, wow, they'll never crack this one. It'll be one of the great unsolved murders of our time.
>also he posted on PrepHole that he had a bunch of weird custom bullets for untraceably killing people
To be fair, zoomers are retarded and unironically think that the internet is a magic series of tubes. They share more with (actual) boomers than they know. See also: that chair guard fag leaking TS shit on discord and thinking he could just delete the posts afterwards to cover his tracks.
>think there's some super complicated investigation instead of just
>look it matches agent fuckface's gun
>fuckface thrown under the bus
look retard, zog really doesn't give a shit about it's slaves, they're DISPOSABLE. Look how they treat the green zogbots, LOL
>stay copin tho
>Sometimes he did firings into soft targets like ballistics gel with a special bench rig with a barrel (that he then hid or destroyed).
Your friend is schizophrenic, and by your friend I mean you.
>"haha guys what do you think about this idea MY FRIEND HAD"
I know it absolutely torments you that your feeble brown brain can't grasp what is being discussed here. I can't imagine how frustrating that must be for you. The only way I can relate to it distant memories of my childhood where I was too weak to do something. Although in my case, I grew out of it. Your incompetent brown "mind" will always be totally incapable of grasping even the most basic phenomenon in this modern world. And honestly, how can we expect it too? Your 80 iq savage brain was what nature saw fit to equip you with for scrabbling about the jungles of subsaharan Africa. Not only is it unrealistic to expect more of it, it's cruel and unfair to you also.
>I was too weak to do something.
I absolutely guarantee you have done exactly none of what you have talked about itt. I can say this because what you are talking about is not possible within the realm of internal and external ballistics.
>waahhh spoon feed me, or YOU'RE the idiot!
Wow, that's a tactic I stopped using in middle school. Jesus you're even more fantastically retarded that I previously imagined.
>im using recovered bullets
You are simply not. You don't have a way to recover them and still have a ballistically usable product.
You can continue to make stuff up, but nobody buys it. You can only impress idiots and yourself.
>I still don't understand
Go back and re-read it. The class will wait for you to ever so slowly mumble the words out to yourself as your feeble brown brain flounders its futile attempt to grasp the concepts. I see that you are well used to the "no ape left behind" edumacation system mollycoddling you.
Why dint you just get. Cheap 9mm and dispose of it if you ever use it and are worried about it.
Though the whole idea is retarded, there's a hundred ways they can track you after you've shot someone, but if it's a genuine self defence shooting then they probably won't look into it too much. Rittenhouse and Zimmerman were outliers, and they still got off.
>but if it's a genuine self defence shooting then they probably won't look into it too much. Rittenhouse and Zimmerman were outliers, and they still got off
They were both charged with felonies and forced to defend themselves in court. Also, Adam Scarsella.
>just spend money on a unique gun every time that you inevitably have some risk of being linked too
as long as my friend is not videotapped shooting some jogger with the stealth slugs, it's untraceable. Well it's traceable, they'll just think someone else did it.
Even if they completely lied about forensic ballistics and said the rifling pattern matches (which they probably do a lot of the time), they'd look completely ridiculous claiming .38 slugs came out of a .44. I KNOW this whole thing is difficult for your feeble brown brain to fully understand. UGH I KNOW! My friend is still gonna use his awesome slugs. He just is, ok?
How many shootings is he planning on getting into. You are going to have more issue shooting someone, running away, getting caught on multiple CCTV cameras and now the police are actively looking for you.
The alternative is 'a future lawyer out for a jog pulled a knife/gun on me and tried to take my wallet, I shot him' to which the police will likely say 'lol k thanks for letting us know, the guy had prior history of this stuff, your free to go'
I don't know why I'm replying since your just trolling/baiting/schizo posting for attention.
>just shoot one of zogs feral brown pets then turn yourself in at the police station with tears in your eyes begging to be forgiven.
Yeah I don't think so. What a feeble minded attempt, you glowing shitskin.
Cry harder that your feebleminded attempt at derailment completely crumbled in your shit colored greasy face.
Stop tweakerposting and get some sleep already
You write like a complete gay. Cant wait for your 'friend' to fuck up and get stabbed to death
Cope more, darky
I would suggest that your friend experiments with paper sabots, these were used back in the black powder days to seal the gap between bullet and barrel (precision manufacturing was not a thing back then). Paper sabots burn into ash after firing unlike plastic sabots.
Yeah I read this novel too, dipshit
it doesn't work IRL
wrong, that novel is just about some Hispanic that goes around stabbing people.
I have a feeling it isn't your friend that is retarded, but you.
I can think of a dozen ways to accomplish the same goal but with 99% less effort and 100% less retard.
Deseperated glowfags trying desperately to convince someone a superior tactic for which they have no hope of countering is actually hopeless or futile. AKA "demoralization" nice try. Maybe my friend will pick up some slugs from one of the ranges you do your bi-annual pistol quals and repacks it into his next batch. He does live not TOO far from Quantico. Maybe time for him to take a daytrip....
Please grow up, stop using meth, and become hasguns before you ever post here again. You are THE most mentally unwell poster on PrepHole since antman.
he probably just yearns for 'old-/k/' where every thread was lolsorandum talk about putting bees in shotgun loads.
This isn't "lolsorandum", his writing style is basically schizoid+mania
Man, and I thought I was smart for having a dedicated drop gun that I've never touched without gloves on.
Anyway, good for him. He's not wrong about not wanting to get dragged through the modern court system for shooting some pavement ape.
I wonder if this complex retarded plan is how morons and Hispanics get away with all those murders? I mean it must be right??? There couldn't be a more simple, and time tested, method of shooting someone, disposing of the evidence, and then being unable to be prosecuted for said shooting. I mean if illiterate bipedal Chimps can figure it out what chance do we giga genius white people have, am I right fellow retards?
I have a suppressed keltec p17 with a magazine filled with subsonic rds I loaded while wearing surgical gloves. I've only used it to slaughter countless raccoons and groundhogs in my back yard but i keep topping up that magazine while wearing gloves just in case
Sabots probably wouldn't work in most surpressors. You could look into frangible rounds though. That wouldn't leave much in the way of any forensically usefull fragments in minecraft.
Sinterfire HPs will straight up explode in soft tissue and also turn themselves into dust if they hit anything hard. Maybe not the most effective bullet in FBI testing, etc but you aren't recovering SHIT.
>because of ONE oddball self-defense shooting, i will now incriminate myself by using weird-ass handloads and not notifying police if i ever need to shoot someone.
The only interesting thing about this is the high velocity you might get.
Honestly I don't think you could load them hot enough to take advantage of the lighter projectile.
True, but there's always the chance that it was "friday at the factory" or murphy's law or something where they malfunction. I'd want to test those puppies before I bet my life on em.
The major problem is if you've got your crimp die set for schoolgirl the nose breaks off at the mouth when you load it. Aside from that it's not like much can go wrong, light bullet go very fast towards target.
So that is premeditated then...
>Using epic .38 sabot ghost rounds so he can run immediately and not worry about ballistics experts tracking him
>Forgets to pick up the sabots or they go flying all over the area
>ATF brought in because of homicide with special ill-eagle AP murder ammo suggesting pre-meditation
Truly, genius level IQ
Lurk moar next time before you so eagerly display your ignorance
You only see what I want you to see. Master of misdirection, just like my friend and his special rounds. Cope and seethe glowmoron
>Master of misdirection
You're the master of retardation. They way you label everyone as a glowmoron is pretty sus in itself. You are the glowmoron and you know it.
>copes and seethes the entire thread
>desperate demoralization posts the entire thread
>no it won't work it can't work no don't do this please please
Oh I guess that's not because you're glowing, you're just a massively butthurt autist. Got it..
I could care less what you and your little friend pittle around with in the garage. I'm just saying you are retarded and you can't accept that.
How would you feel if you hadn't eaten breakfast this morning, though?
took ya awhile to google that huh? KYS
No I just lost interest in this thread mainly because of retards like you.
He meditated before the self defense shooting?
Thanks for letting us know, I put a note on file for when a case comes up involving a possible saboted projectile use. If it comes up we'll just refer to your posts here and subpoena your IP from PrepHole.
>nice high-res photo of them fingerprints
et tu, fedboi?
Why would I care? We are the ones with the files.
Wut you gonna do? Plant his finger prints on some sabot handloads?
I'm gonna 3D print his hand and use it to finger my anus.
You would... Doofy. Just playing us all for fools huh?
Congrats you made 440 corbon
B&D did it long before.