Nordic Response 2024

You want those pics from NATO Nordic Response 2024 military exercise, held in Lapland/Sweden/Finland/Norway border regions?

https://mediebank.ntb.no/p/forsvaret/album/37648
You've got them!
I bet Finnish Youtube Combat Camera is going to do some sick-ass video about this in a near future.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I love those guys, finnish marines. Not sure about unit thou. Also late stage conscripts with one of the staff most likely. I kinda wish I could go back, they fricked me up good.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Looking at the equipment I'd say coastal jaegers

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why not go all in on the snow camo? That there just looks ridiculous

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because buying separate LBE for the occasional winter is fricking stupid. And if the weather makes the snow disappear you are fricked.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because unless you plan on fighting in the Arctic or Antarctica, winter terrain isn't 100% white.
        Trees, bushes, overturned earth from explosions, earthworks from digging trenches, everything turning to mud from vehicles and enough human boots.
        En entirely white silhouette stands out more against a dark background than vice versa.
        Also pure white gear doesn't tend to stay pure white for very long.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          And you can just use chalk paint or tape to mask the gear. Pure white overalls are kinda iffy though.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Dats a nice raifu

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That looks fun

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Can't speak for the other Scandis but Norway have issued winter camo overgear since around the 1920s, maybe earlier. As far as I know it has always been issued pure white, but doesn't normally get washed until the end of the conscript year when it is returned to the stores. So it could get a bit gritty. Especially if your job includes maintaining machinery.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I take it the short blonde girl with the dirty knees is the head nurse?

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Oh wait, they already have some footage about Nordic 2024 on their youtube channel.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    What got the thirdies so mad today?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      russia lost the last of its 6 operational A-50. They're now blind and Ukrainian airforce can start clapping cheeks

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think they have one left.
        For now.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is there an SOP for when you get soaked in water during these situations? Obviously try to get dry and warm up, but how is this facilitated in a wartime situation

    t. burger from the south

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >in a wartime situation
      you die

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      happened in 82; a bong Para walked into a frozen lake during a night assault
      the squad pulled him out of the drink, stripped all the wet clothes off him, gave him all their spare dry clothing, radioed for a casevac, and got on with killing Argies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yes. Strip all clothes, start doing jumping jacks to stay warm, get clothes/blankets/whatever from squad, order evac

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      a timeout is called and everyone strips naked and uses their body heat to save their chilly friend

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        D-does that include frotting with eachother to generate body heat?..

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, absolutely.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For intentional water crossings it is the usual
      >strip down
      >stuff your shit in waterproof bags
      >cross water
      >dry up
      >dress up
      for unintentional watery events it's
      >strip down
      >dry up
      >dress up
      >stuff shit in bag, don't mix with waterproofed
      >if needed get medical
      >if good to go keep going

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >cross water
        >dry up
        >dress up
        how do you warm up after that?
        surely we're beyond the "petrol barrel fire" stage by now

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Dude start marching to the location you were going to our exercise?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Dude start marching
            >t. Gaius Flaminius

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Heavy exercise, warm clothing, a space blanket if need be

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Heavy exercise
            This is pretty damn effective if you aren't so cold that you can't even move properly any more.
            We once had to wait for a certain senior lieutenant to show up so we could begin a training session. It was like -25 C or worse, windy and some guys had gotten their clothes a bit wet earlier. Anyways, they were getting pretty damn cold just idling there on that field.
            The squad leaders told everyone to start wrestling each other. It was surprisingly effective. I think it's not just physical exercise, but also the fact that you're sort of fighting someone. Really gets your body pumped up. We had to stop before people got too sweaty.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Here's Bundeswehr training this scenario in Norway: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azJ25Jy4X_Y

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Finnish recce troops carry tinder and atleast two ways of starting a fire in a water proof bag readily accessible, and this is one of the reasons why. Also spare clothing is carried in a thrash bag inside your rucksack so it stays dry and also works as a float.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Get off the wet clothes and wring them. But you are essentially jogging toward hypothermia so your bros better be nearby and ready to wrap you in a dry sleeping bag.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Water's supposed to be frozen so you don't get wet.
      If you get sweaty, you change out your base layer.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    These days I've graduated my flecktarn phase but hot damn that snow camo, how to get one? It looks like a flippable design too

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Search for "Bundeswehr Schneetarn"

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nah I can just find the danish one for sale, but I'll settle with that

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          but...you asked for THIS camo and it is Bundeswehr Schneetarn...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It looks similar enough for me and I like the green too. Schneetarn looks too much like M05 snow

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Sneedtarn

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Well sheeit. Can't find any surp pants/jackets, but somebody on eBay has the bundeswehr NOS poncho's for $35

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Schneetarmdruck

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you have to cross a body of open water on winter time, you immediately make a fire afterwards. Yo ustrip down and dry your body and your gear on the fire (make pultiple if need be) and once you are dry, dress up and move on.

    This is a very risky move, as you must stay at least 30 minutes immobile near the body of water you just crossed. But it's either that or you freeze to death. So you better find some good aerial cover.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    my beloved

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wiesel-chan! In winter clothing! Cute!!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      UOHHHHH EROTIC CAMO TOT

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >You want those pics from NATO Nordic Response 2024
    no. i want the pics from King Banan's office after monke was shown these pics
    >putingrippingtable.jpg

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >nato nordic response
    kino title

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Snow camo had always been and will always be the most kino of camos. There's just something great about hiding amongst snow.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Holy shit that torso is just floating there. How is he doing that?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >silhouetting yourself against the top of a hill
        hah what a rookie mistake

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >guys with skis
    …you guys are straight fricked if Russia invades aren’t you?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >doesn't realize that skiing is a superpower during winter

      anon pls

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The last time Ruskies invaded during the winter they got owned pretty thoroughly by some dudes on skis.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Skiing on flat ground is around 2-3 times faster than walking. Skis allow you to move through terrain that you literally couldn't walk through without snow shoes (that slow down walking even more).
      You can transport a lot of soldiers around very quickly by towing them behind vehicles on their skis, see pic rel.
      I'm pretty sure the Russians also train their troops to ski.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm pretty sure the Russians also train their troops
        Im not so sure anon.
        During soviet times it was common conscripts barely touched a weapon

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I am sad to disappoint you anon but Enemy at the gates is historically extremely inaccurate movie.

          Soviets had more small arms than they would know what to do with them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Doesn't mean Igor Blyatkovich, conscript, got to fire them inbetween peeling potatoes and working on construction sites

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Soviets had more small arms than they would know what to do with them
            long after Stalingrad
            >is historically extremely inaccurate
            the first segment is based on survivor accounts

            >I'm pretty sure the Russians also train their troops
            Im not so sure anon.
            During soviet times it was common conscripts barely touched a weapon

            they do have ski troops and NATO thinktanks acknowledge that the Russians have more Arctic troops than NATO does
            80th Arctic Motor Rifle Brigade, for example
            which is why a couple of navies are getting icebreaker patrol ships

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >which is why a couple of navies are getting icebreaker patrol ships
              Definitely a medium term goal to ensure safety of future lanes in the arctic ocean.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                short term even, I think
                they don't have missiles IIRC
                for now any Arctic naval warfare will be performed by submarines

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Enemy at the gates is historically extremely inaccurate movie.
            I used to think it was ridiculous, but that was before I saw Russian soldiers in Ukraine getting gunned down by their own side while retreating, or running around a combat zone without weapons.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              read Beevor's Stalingrad
              barrier troops were absolutely a thing

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Extremely inaccurate isn't true for any parameter. Stalingrad was in many ways an unique battle, of vast length and size under very painful temperatures, and mindboggling things happened. The error lies rather in assuming that things that happened there were typical for the entire war. It's what can be mistaken when there are actually very few movies from that time and place.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://www.reddit.com/r/ww2/comments/krfnv9/soviet_ski_troops_moving_to_the_front_in_moscow/

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >linking reddit
            Fricking have a nice day Black person

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I've done that. Very pleasant to speed forward without having to work for it. Not quite as pleasant when the vehicles takes a turn to either side and one, then all the guys fall over like dominoes....

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I'm pretty sure the Russians also train their troops

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >You get frostbite and you get frostbite and you get frostbite and you get frostbite and you get frostbite and you get frostbite and you get frostbite and you get frostbite and you get frostbite

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Skis are way easier/faster than walking in heavy snow; if they didn't work then people wouldn't bother using them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What? Finns think they can ski?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Looking at winter olympics medals, they seem to be doing pretty good at jumping, cross-country, and Nordic combined; I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're from Norway, because that's apparently the only country in a position to trash talk Finland's performance.
          The character Lahja herself just happens to be skilled at it on a competitive level, despite the handicap of her Swedish heritage.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            We used to be good at skiing back when pro skiing didn't exist
            Now that skiing went pro, we're trying to compete with 1950s tier resources compared to other Nordics, plus all the pro sports resources are appropriated by the fat cats on the national sporting boards anyway

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Speaking as a Norwegian, those international competitions mean little in a military sense. Norway keeps winning everything, sure. We also spend 50 times as much money per skier as most of the other nations bothering to compete. Frick competitions. Look to how many kids go skiing, how many people do it outside of competition, how big of a national winter pastime it is. If every lad in your unit was a decent skier before he even entered Basic, then you have something of a military value.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              A significant percentage of Finns are fat söys now and can't ski for shit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i bet they are sick at controlling drones tho

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I wish, my usual winter trekking route is always full of skiers.
                Guess I'm getting old, because I'm thinking of moving further north to have some peace innawoods.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Back in WW2 days way more Finns depended on skiing. Christopher Lee came here to fight against commies as a volunteer but he was sent packing because he couldn't ski

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      truuuuuuuuuue
      skiing is a fad that's going to die out like rollerblades any day now

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Touch grass and perhaps some snow if you ever go somewhere with it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not in Scandinavia it won't. We start using them in kindergarten. Not everyone likes them but Everyone born in these parts have learned the basics of them before halfway through elementary school. The vast majority of our populations have at least one pair, and many have a number of variations.

          >autismo nords cant spot a joke to safe their lives

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not in Scandinavia it won't. We start using them in kindergarten. Not everyone likes them but Everyone born in these parts have learned the basics of them before halfway through elementary school. The vast majority of our populations have at least one pair, and many have a number of variations.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      t. never seen snow

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I mean I wouldn't say no to getting a snowmobile instead of skis issued to me...

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          A snowmobile is good until you run into the true AIDS fighting environment of the woodland areas where trees are too tightly packed to go past unless you spend time searching for an opening that you can slide through with a snowmobile. Skis don't really have that limitation, and that's the kind of war you'd probably end up fighting in Finland/Sweden in winter since the entire landwar area is just woodland, wooded hills and roads surrounded by... more woodland
          The only woodland that might not be tightly packed enough would be certain layouts of planted forest, but any kind of old natural forest will have too much shit in the way

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I thought about that but honestly most of the southern forests are managed pine or other economic wood with good enough spacing.
            It'd be a nightmare to maintain and supply snowmobiles in sufficient numbers to replace skis so it's mostly a joke about me being lazy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >moronic Black person that's never seen snow doesn't understand the power of skis
      pavement ape.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >t: never been to cold or cold and wet regions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Who would win?

      10 000 Soviet soldiers with 100 tanks

      VS

      1000 Finnish farmers with rifles and skis.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        well russia did end up winning the first time sooo

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So they did conquer all of Finland and captured Helsinki in two weeks like they planned?

          I must have missed that on the history lessons.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            two more weeks is eternal

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Raate_Road
            >A Finnish soldier examines a Soviet tuba found among the many musical instruments that the destroyed division was carrying for a victory parade to be held in a vanquished Finland.
            This one little detail immediately came to mind when I heard about riot police in the first wave to Kyiv

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Yup. They sent the military band amongst the first troops so they could have a fancy victory parade in Helsinki.

              It is exact same shitstorm as in Ukraine. They just thought that Finland would keel over and surrender as soon as stalin raised his eyebrow and took his gloves of etc etc (more russian memes here).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous
              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't mean to quote

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/l53DstZ.jpg

              Yup. They sent the military band amongst the first troops so they could have a fancy victory parade in Helsinki.

              It is exact same shitstorm as in Ukraine. They just thought that Finland would keel over and surrender as soon as stalin raised his eyebrow and took his gloves of etc etc (more russian memes here).

              They brought dress uniforms to Kyiv as well

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically touch snow.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Meanwhile, in Russia

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >You want those pics from NATO Nordic Response 2024 military exercise, held in Lapland/Sweden/Finland/Norway border regions?
    Yes!

  16. 1 month ago
    Caius

    sweet, someone made the thread. We need more threads about exercises.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Victory parades are important, mind you. Grabbing the capital is good but you can't send occupation troops everywhere right away. So a big fat parade smack in the enemy's heart is vital to convince the target that they have been vanquished.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sure. In reality, i'd be fighting twice as hard if they pulled something like that. The cope that would follow a complete and utter defeat after they've already done a victory parade would be so hilarious

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Depends on the parade, maybe.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      they're based when one actually pulls it off
      they're cringe and a laughing stock when one fails
      c'est la vie c'est la guerre

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >get curb-stomped
    by who?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      whomever they're fighting, they'd get stomped regardless. who do you think that will be?

      what even IS the strategy for Nordic Countries? hit and run in the forest ad-nauseum? thats not gonna work

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >hit and run in the forest ad-nauseum? thats not gonna work
        why not

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          because its not the 20th century anymore. thermals and IR and all sorts of tech make "hiding in the woods" an irrelevant strategy. how are you even gonna stop a nation from using satellites to spy on your positions in live-feed?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > thermals and IR
            > satellites to spy
            yeah... good luck and have fun

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              you realize snow has a temperature, right? your body is never going to be 32F or lower, or you'd already be dead.
              any structures you make will glow with warmth unless you're banning any form of heat

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >wienery bravado thats based on absolutely nothing
                typical nu-k shillbot

                how are you going to see my heat through a tree dumbass not to mention 100 trees
                fricking urbanoids

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >urbanoid
                Black person i see this view all the time and even here I don't expect to escape the eye of advanced modern satellites.

                its okay though, keep living in your idealistic fantasy where everything goes absolutely perfect for you, it worked great for ukraine

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What is more likely: Norway, Sweden and Finland not having a clue what they are doing or you talking out of your ass?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Dumb nord, these are not bras.
                They are clips

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                whens the last time any of them fought a direct confrontational war? last century?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                frick your goalposts

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >goalposts
                i haven't moved any goalposts; i've only further elaborated on why you'd get curbstomped.

                you aren't experienced in modern warfare, your tech isn't that great, and you're relying on a gimmick strategy. its weak.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >just one more try bro please bro this time it will be different bro please i beg you just invade through finland it will work this time bro we have satellites now bro cmon i know the track record is says its suicide but just one more time bro please

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                why is Kyle Rittenhouse in the Swedish military

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Kyle is waaay too fat to be that guy

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can't see through camo netting/tarps that are ambient temp or covered in snow.

                Thermal isn't shit anyway. SWIR will be able to tell you're using plastic leafs by comparing it to the foliage it's looking through and ID your foxhole. It can also tell the soil you've turned over is different than the surrounding area.

                You're ignorant of modern capabilities. The real benefit of a forest is not being able to be targeted by local assets, not becoming invisible to God's eye miles above you.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >wienery bravado thats based on absolutely nothing
              typical nu-k shillbot

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You severely underestimate how good hiding in what is basically a massive thick maze with air cover can hide you. Even drones would have trouble spotting people actively concealing themselves via thick woodland

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              yes anon im sure zero militaries in the world have planned around forests. nonononono im sure nobody has ever invested in developing tech to help them see through the canopy better, that would just be too easy

              you're right, forests are the one thing that will BTFO a modern military, you are truly a genius.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Good thing Russia does not have a modern military and likely never will
                Even so, the capability you need to effectively fight in tight low-visibility environments is pretty different from fighting in a big open field.
                There's still nothing that could super effectively stop raids done through forests anyhow. You might catch a party, bring out your arty- then it turns out you can't shoot and scoot fast enough and that gets nailed and clogs up your approach. What you gonna do, throw thousands of drones into thick fog of war and hope to hit something that isn't a tree?
                Russia, the only realistic enemy here, isn't adapted to a forest fight. They're adapted to the plains. Nordics are actually adapted and unlike a random shitposter on /k/ has a lot of resources to make sure of it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                russia? who's talking about russia? it could easily be a coalition of many nations attacking you, just as the west does against its enemies

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                A coalition in hockey maybe.
                Unfortunately for you, real militaries judge what threat they'll be facing and what you'll run into is not very likely to be the full US military.
                And even if it was, the fight would pretty certainly be mostly a coastal one with assloads of island hopping. A land fight is generally the non-Gotland Russia fight.
                If you're so interested in discussing nonsense hypotheticals you could instead make a thread for it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There is only one enemy and it is Russia.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                i assume you are american
                when was the last time americans had to fight in heavily forested areas and how did it go?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It went great. Communist China no longer has control over Vietnam and its now a free democratic nation.

                Lots of Americans died in the process but our Geopolitical goals were accomplished; which is the point of any war.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >its now a free democratic nation.
                It's a communist one party state is it free to you because it has McDonalds?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Anon, why are you being a spaz about this? People train to fight and hide against an enemy with aerial superiority all the time.
                >thirdies do it because they're training to fight an adversary that always has air superiority
                >euros do it because they can't guarantee air superiority for themselves
                >America does it because it's an obvious doctrinal trap to fall into
                Why wouldn't you want to do that in an environment that's easy to traverse and where you're constantly walking around under overhead cover? A forest doesn't make you impervious to satellites, or high altitude UAVs, or drones- but they do put a visible barrier for you to hide under between you and them. It makes playing defense easier, not an auto-win.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Bold to assume Russia could establish aerial superiority over the Nordicks when they can't do it over Ukraine lel.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There's also a combined airforce now with both dispersed meteor gripens and stealth f-35s. Any realistic fight, even with just an airforce is onesided.
                There's even AWACS.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >1. doctrine lags behind reality; Russia only became a paper tiger a couple years ago
                >2. there is a world of difference between your aggressor having air superiority and you not having it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You can't shoot into a dense forest because of the trees.
                You can't fire missiles into a dense forest because of the trees.
                You can't make quick advances into a dense forest because of the trees.

                You can bomb a dense forest at great cost but what if the entire country is a dense forest?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Even if you bomb a dense forest there are fricking thousands of trees in any one direction
                Cutting down trees is even slower
                A controlled wildfire would leave little cover but still tons of husks in the way and could frick yourself up
                So you take the easy roadway and get raped by airpower, drones and arty instead. Then once your back and front are blown your military train is stuck and gets erased like the 50km convoy.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >everything will be amazing IF ONLY they go exactly the way i planned
                lmao just sit down lil bro. yes sure if everything went 100% perfect then you'd win, but perfection isn't reality.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Perfection for drones isn't reality either though?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There are just as many roads running in the East-West direction over the border as there were in 1939
                The eastern parts of Finland are pretty swampy and rocky where there aren't swamps so you're going to need those roads

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Didn't you hear? We have satellites now, so impassable chokepoints don't matter.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What about mines? Don't Finns have a relatively modernized mine arsenal?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                We foolishly signed the Ottawa treaty in early 00s, so we don't actually have anti-personnel mines. We do have some domestically designed and produced jumping mines but even if they're as good as advertised in every clickbait article I've read about them they still feel like a needlessly complicated solution to compensate a self-inflicted wound (not just having infantry mines)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The thing is you as the defender, have those tools too.
            It doesn't make traversing the terrain and checking every rabbit hole any easier.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I think this is a pretty serious concern at the moment. My brother, who's in the home guard, said that they got a drone demonstration the last time he was called in for drills. They were ordered to hide in the forest and a drone was sent out to spot them. He said it took seconds for it to locate them all.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Spruce branches are actually incredibly effective at blocking Thermals and at masking IR signature.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Last I checked the strategy was 72 hours of hide and seek. That time must be bought with blood, but it is time enough for the Americans and Brits to arrive on the battlefield. Brits have set off manpower and ships for this, Americans have planes and rockets allocated. I wouldn't plan for any romantic walks in the darkness around Moscow or any western Russian ports by hour 73 because it would be quite lit around the clock.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          because they would've sunk themselves before getting to the forests

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            youre a wet guy

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    joining NATO was worth it just to piss off the parasitic peacenik homos on Gotland

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      qrd on Gotland?
      I know Åland is rather asshurt whenever remilitarization is on the table even though they think mainland Finland should rush to aid as soon as Russki boots touch the shores
      I mean, yeah sure, but it would be easier if the volunteers there had a little more to work with

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        gotlanders larp that they have their own unique language and culture when they are just inbred funny talking islanders
        without massive tourismbux they would be an economic hole
        they were against the rearmament of gotland because they said it would make them a target of russia as if they wouldn't be a target regardless

        gotlanders and ålanders should start a breeding program together to make their future children less inbred and annoying, bornholmers could be invited too

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          thanks
          >gotlanders and ålanders should start a breeding program together to make their future children less inbred and annoying, bornholmers could be invited too
          kek

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            maybe breeding morons with other morons just makes super morons idk

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why make low effort AI slop in a proper image thread.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Look everyone we are NATO now hahah-ACK

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >using satellites to spy on your positions in live-feed
    This troll has really optimistic ideas of what satellite imaging is capable of. But lets ignore the boring realities of orbital mechanics for a while.

    Here's a more fun bit of trivia for everyone.
    Russia's latest successful series of reconnaissance satellites, Yantar-4K2M aka Kobalt-M, last launched and deorbited in 2015, still used FILM. No digital imaging. FRICKING FILM. To get imagery out of them, film re-entry canisters had to be deorbited and someone had to go recover the physical film. The US also did this film recovery shit way back in the space race times.

    Just in case you thought Russia wasn't a complete clown show when it comes to space technology.
    t. your local space nerd

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      To be fair anon, film can give you substantially higher fidelity than even some high tech digital cameras. You think those 4/8k renders of LOTR and similar film shot films came out of nowhere with AI upscaling? No they just didn't have the same pixel limitations, only light and chemical.
      Nowadays digital cameras can take a frick ton of images on a thousand lenses milliseconds apart on satellites, but that's expensive, and larger scale film is cheap and has similar quality, the issue is only that its not able to be used over and over again and needs deorbiting to achieve
      They're probably not using small film sized capture material, but a much larger, wider roll of film to capture more detail.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A sensor of equivalent size will always have higher fidelity than film. The reactive granules can't be made much smaller.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Everything you just said is wrong and dumb.

        Sensor/film is not the bottleneck for satellite imaging resolution.
        The real limits are 1) atmospheric turbulence and 2) diffraction/aperture size.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It went by so quick.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why are Americans in finnish uniforms?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Haista vittu!

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    since the nordics have always been a kinda poor low population backwaters of europe but rich in natural resources its curious how no one has really conquered them
    denmark has always been denmark
    norway has always been norway
    sweden has always been sweden
    finland has almost always been sweden

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Denmark and Norway have also been Sweden. Most things on the coastlines of Baltic Sea have been Sweden.
      As to why they haven't been conquered--who in their right mind would want to even go there? It's fricking cold.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Why
        because its a strategic jumping-point to the rest of Europe and Britain. Control the Nords and you can strike Germany/France/England/Spain a lot easier

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Historically no geopolitical entity with those ambitions, aside from Sweden itself, has ever been in the position to act on them. Nothing's coming from the Arctic and Russia's attempts to expand westward have always been stopped in Finland.

          It's always been and always will be much easier to wage offensive wars in more hospitable terrain & weather further south.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because the locals are already willing to sell you those raw resources at a bargain price in exchange for manufactured goods etc they lack. If you can exploit a land's resources without needing to get your hands dirty why go through the effort of invading? Plus them being not part of your country means you aren't obligated to defend them when France of Britain go to war for the gorillionth time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's almost like it's hard to do when they're prepared

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