no Western weapon has anything near this capability.

no Western weapon has anything near this capability.

combines all the strong points of "Triad" with none of each leg's weaknesses.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's not a submarine

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ...yet

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah, fig if it can carry flat, then fairly quickly tilt for firing, you could put it in a sub real easy to do same. Just have the sub's bow above surface and open a big hatch for launch. Would things become "interesting" aboard a small sub as it goes from having a 200ton missile, to launching it, to suddenly not having 200tons and being vertical with big hatch open? Probably, but so what, it would be WW3, and probably just a skeleton crew in an escape pod.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      newsflash, subs will soon be as detectable as high flying aircraft, if they aren't already.

      It related to how and why whales can transmit sounds across vast oceans, and how such sounds will be affected by a large hard object like a sub. Needs a transmitter on one side and 'phone on the other, and can't pin-point but close enough to direct active sonar units.

      Some of the fundy weaknesses of subs include:

      They are alot of eggs in one basket, and expensive so you can't have very many.

      Compared to missile truck, and decoys, including those fuel of rocket fuel, in vast Siberia, you'd be pretty sure you've killed a sub.

      USN is full of among others ChiCom agents. I was at a port where a USN ship was docked and there were "US Navy" female Chinese officers in groups taking in Chinese among themselves, and they were in some "Intel" and "Communications" depts.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am demoralized

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They will be detectable, just not by the russians nor the chinks

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          guess who gives themselves permission to do research about whales and shit and not give a frick what anyone thinks?
          Spoiler alert: Russians and Chinks.

          Guess which nation has a "fishing fleet" able to put an actual sea going boat every 10miles of ocean across the entire globe?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Guess whose demoralizing attempt is shit.
            Spoiler alert: Yours.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >ha ha!
            >round eyes will fear wooden raft!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >subs will soon be as detectable as high flying aircraft
        finally somebody finally figured out how to beat the thermal mass of the ocean

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PS-but the main weakness of subs as Triad is they mostly must play in "public" on the high seas, where anyone can "play them close" prior to WW3 poppin' off.

        In Siberia its not a big deal to have no unauthorized anyone for 1000miles, just lots of Little Green Men with binoculars, drones, sniper rifles, blood hounds and radios.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nobody outside of classified training programs and research knows just how un-stealthed submarines are, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all with modern hydrophones and signal processing that every sub in Pacific and Atlantic oceans are being tracked with a fairly high degree of resolution. As it turns out sound propagates through water very readily and utilizing deep sea channels you can listen to stuff 15k miles away. Then there’s these new low-frequency towed active-passive arrays. It may be there’s no such thing as a hidden submarine anywhere in the open ocean right now.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          gets it^^^^

          subs also leave wakes and produce heat

          not sure if they can Faraday Cage themselves or if they have to "ground" to water and/or if that can be detected.

          but my spies tell me its sort about seeing a disturbance when something passes through a distant transmission's signal and disturbs it. Maybe a counter measure would be lots of cheap decoy subs towing some array that can be deployed, then retracted.

          They got over 1/2 MILLION of these, all with salty crews well schooled in deploying and towing equip through water.
          https://yamaneboat.en.made-in-china.com/product/JXgQbdFlZPYq/China-35m-Factory-Steel-Seine-Fishing-Boat-for-Sale.html

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            [...]

            I can't wait until China starts a war with America under the pretention that fishing boats are effective against nuclear submarines, and that ballistic missiles simply won't work if their crews are too woke.

            Maybe you should focus on getting crews that aren't dead, and leave the wokeness question for later, no?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I bet you can't post good evidence your picture happened
              -t. sub enjoyer who's tired of seeing this clickbait from a wordpress blog spread around

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not only are you hilariously wrong about literally every single one of those points, you also space and type like a complete homosexual.

        I thank god for the existence of people like you, for showing me that yes, you are inferior to me, in both intellect and moral character, and yes, you suffer because you deserve it, and for no other reason. It's not really like there was any doubt that mentally ill /misc/ traitors who shill for genocidal dictatorships are subhumans who deserve death, but it's nice to have confirmation once in a while.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Based. Good post but I don't think this is a Western /misc/ traitor. Notice they're not actually replying to what any anon says in their post and they're just spamming weirdly written demoralisation. It's a bot or chink shill.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Im mailing my representative of kansas oblast to scrap our aging and weak submarines

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        implessive

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        would make cents.

        I only know what Fox News bunnies told me in the 1990s. They probably got it confused with Iraqis playing games keeping their SAM radars off and on.

        >make cents
        So what kind of humiliation happened with Russia this time?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >whales can transmit sounds across vast oceans
        Whales are trying to be heard you fricking moron
        Submarines are trying not to be heard, and have gotten very good at it (although this might not be the case if they are designed by alcoholic aids-ridden steppe mongrels, further study required)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon what the frick are you talking about

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Plot twist, in one of the best kept secrets of all time, the USA developed TELs decades ago and they roam the Canadian arctic buttfrickery forests as our ace in the hole. In return we let them exist as a country

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bullshit, but WTF is a "TEL"?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Can you stop posting on this board, you are moronic. You don't go to a discussion forum for things you have no fricking clue about, lemming. Are you brown?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lol, if you only really knew what was hiding in The Great White North.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Transporter
    Erector
    Launcher

    The missile is fired from the prime mover that carries it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bullshit, but WTF is a "TEL"?

      You know, the thing in OP's pic. The whole premise of this thread, you fricking balloon animal of a person

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        USA tired that but was moronic "race track" in desert on special roads, and cancelled.
        https://www.google.com/search?q=USAF++++missile+shell+game&client=firefox-b-1-e&sca_esv=130c37119aaf76c8&sxsrf=ACQVn089ilr2H9A0uKV8kTeZTD5bnOj9xQ%3A1710475789964&ei=DcrzZcfEOv3ekPIPhrC_qA4&ved=0ahUKEwiH_-3usvWEAxV9L0QIHQbYD-UQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=USAF++++missile+shell+game&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiGlVTQUYgICAgbWlzc2lsZSBzaGVsbCBnYW1lMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAFI5kZQwQtYwERwAXgBkAEBmAH1AaAB0B6qAQYzLjI5LjG4AQPIAQD4AQGYAhWgAtAUwgIKEAAYRxjWBBiwA8ICBBAjGCfCAgsQLhiABBiKBRiRAsICCxAAGIAEGIoFGJECwgIKEAAYgAQYFBiHAsICChAAGIAEGAoYsQPCAgUQABiABMICBRAuGIAEwgILEC4YgAQYxwEYrwHCAhoQLhiABBjHARivARiXBRjcBBjeBBjgBNgBAcICCxAAGIAEGIoFGIYDwgIGEAAYFhgewgIEECEYFcICBRAhGJ8FmAMAiAYBkAYIugYGCAEQARgUkgcGMi4xNy4yoAebmAE&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:be4a51c2,vid:44zytG8O40w,st:0

        Shit like this makes me wonder if Soviets hadn't got very high level moles in USAF and US Govt doing stupid shit on purpose.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >posting that monstrosity of a link instead of just posting the image
          moron

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vald, we are friends right? Could i see it actually work? Please? If it doesn't, i understand if you have no Typeofdong, really i do...I have plenty, i could sell you one, friend prices!

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    "...wore as a cape"

    Not all heroes wear capes, just super heroes. 🙂

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As powerful as the armata.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >

    PS-but the main weakness of subs as Triad is they mostly must play in "public" on the high seas, where anyone can "play them close" prior to WW3 poppin' off.

    In Siberia its not a big deal to have no unauthorized anyone for 1000miles, just lots of Little Green Men with binoculars, drones, sniper rifles, blood hounds and radios. (You)
    >moron. 1000 square miles is a fricking >postage stamp compared to how much empty >space there is to hide in the world's oceans. >There's millions and millions of square miles >of ocean out there that are 1000+ miles away >from any regular shipping routes.

    "They got over 1/2 MILLION of these, all with salty crews well schooled in deploying and towing equip through water.
    https://yamaneboat.en.made-in-china.com/product/JXgQbdFlZPYq/China-35m-Factory-Steel-Seine-Fishing-Boat-for-Sale.html"

    "PS-but the main weakness of subs as Triad is they mostly must play in "public" on the high seas, where anyone can "play them close" prior to WW3 poppin' off.

    In Siberia its not a big deal to have no unauthorized anyone for 1000miles, just lots of Little Green Men with binoculars, drones, sniper rifles, blood hounds and radios."

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And what are "1/2 MILLION" worthless dinghies that couldn't find a modern sub if it was 50 feet below them supposed to achieve, exactly?

      PS: A fricking BILLION wouldn't be enough.

      >In Siberia its not a big deal to have no unauthorized anyone for 1000miles
      And then people note the 1k miles radius that's off-limits and modern satellite intel finds oyur ocpe launchers in under a day. Meanwhile, the boomer sub remainsw utterly undetectable somewhere withing the billions and billions of cubic miles of ocean out there.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everything is irrelevant with the F-35's ability to drop nukes now. No, Russia will never be able to detect the F-35 no matter how much bullshit they try to push saying otherwise. It's over for Satan aka Russia, who is also moronic enough to tell everyone what they have for saber rattling. US doesn't do that, ever. Imagine the shit we have that is not known.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One of the big take aways from Ukraine is conventional aircraft aren't very survivable over enemy territory.

      Stealth is 98% a hoax, anyways, as we saw when Serb with broken microwave DIY radar was able to shoot down pure stealth F-117.

      F-35 in "stealth mode" (clean) is very limited range.

      See this thread of mine for other issues with aircraft and their bases in today's world.

      [...]

      Unless you got an airbase so remote you can launch jets, and fly them out, completely undetected from any nearby "civilians" (Little Green Men with spy gear) figure your jets are tracked.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Stealth is 98% a hoax, anyways, as we saw when Serb with broken microwave DIY radar was able to shoot down pure stealth F-117.
        opinion disregarded never post again

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sorry, I didn't know it was invisible

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You don't know a lot of things, it seems

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Cope

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but did it stop the bombs?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Stealth is a hoax when the pilots get lax and fly the same flight-path over and over and over again.

          Ok? and doctrinal change was implemented so that it wont happen again.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They also got luckly and re-targeted it when the weapons bay was open.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >brings up vague racial animus unprovoked
    >no trace of actual insight into how you neutralize 20+ subs simultaneously with no mistakes in the few minutes that you have to prevent a nuclear launch even if you did know exactly where each one of them was

    Your post may as well have been, "mommy didn't love me enough". Screaming for attention from internet strangers. Pathetic.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >TEL
    >Trains
    >Ever thinking you're safe in 21st century sat tech world
    NOW YOU'VE DONE IT YOU FREAK SHIT. YOU'VE FRICKED UP. YOU'RE BEING TRACKED BY THE GRID. THE EYE IN THE SKY IS WATCHING. WE'RE COMING FOR YOU. PREPARE TO DIE.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Typical heavy TEL's suffer from really long preparation times because they have to deploy to a premade launch site to be fired. They spend most of their lives in depots and in times of tension they are dispersed to launch sites, where they have to drive to in pretty terrible conditions, but they cannot stay at the launch sites forever. The depots are obvious targets for enemy counterforce so dispersal has to be done well before an attack. Russians know this well which is why out of their 312 ICBMs only 18 are road mobile.

    Russian nuclear doctrine is a bit strange anyways since they like those superheavy liquid-fueled silo-based missiles as well, which carry tons of warheads but again have terrible preparation times.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it struck me as significant that during Gulf I with entire NATO/UN land, navel air-power, satellites, in-country spies(?) they weren't able to stop repeated ongoing Scud launches on Saudi bases and Israel. And IIRC not only did Scud require fueling prep, but they had to turn on some radar for some crazy amount of time like an hour prior to launch because the "computer" was literally vacuum tubes.

      I'm guessing part of the reason was Iraqis standing up decoy radars out of old micro-waves or WTF.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Scud launch takes 30 minutes to an hour and to my knowledge doesn't emit anything, the microwave thing is old serbian nonsense

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          would make cents.

          I only know what Fox News bunnies told me in the 1990s. They probably got it confused with Iraqis playing games keeping their SAM radars off and on.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >would make cents.
            Its "would make sense"

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              that doesn't sound right

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >only 18 are road mobile
      There is also 135+ mobile Yars.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >submarine without the cover of water
    >airplane without the speed of flight
    >silo without the hardening or redundancy
    Wondrous, tell me more.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >submarine without the cover of water
      can stay in protected home land, not public oceans
      >airplane without the speed of flight
      doesn't need to operate out of a few fixed large soft airbases
      >silo without the hardening or redundancy
      isn't a known fixed target

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >public oceans
        Kek, learn English you pleb

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Those are gods oceans.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >can stay in protected home land
        How do you protect building-sized paper-thin cope tubes sitting in the open from being blown up?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Shoot n scoot

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >can stay in protected home land, not public oceans
        So in other words, it is infinitely easier to fiund and infinitely more vulnerable.

        >doesn't need to operate out of a few fixed large soft airbases
        Neither do many airplanes. And all airplanes are infinitely less vulnerable than your cope mobile while in the air.

        >isn't a known fixed target
        Whole also being infinitely more vulnerable than said much more defensible and fortified fixed target.

        Yet again, all your claims show is that road-mobile TELs are utterly inferior to all other types of strategic launchers and exist only because technologically backwards shitholes have to cope and seethe for lack of ability to get proper launch systems.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These days these vehicles are more vulnerable than silos. Satellites can track them. Their real time location is not a mystery anymore. A close but not direct nuke can disable the vehicles but not a silo or a submarine.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Russia has to use mobile launchers because their rockets are still liquid fueled. Russian rocket science is so far behind the west it's fricking sad.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      any anons wanna go to the no-lone zone with me? two-man concept mandatory.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As long as we hold hand until it's time to turn our keys

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yars is solid fueled.

      >can stay in protected home land
      How do you protect building-sized paper-thin cope tubes sitting in the open from being blown up?

      In the 1970s TELs were meta. Now they're showing their age badly versus the combination of satellite SAR/GMTI and long-range conventional strike.
      >Vintage Racer - Loitering Weapon System (LWS)
      >“Hypersonic Ingress” (“Hypersonic Delivery”?), “Survivable”, “Time Over Target” and “Multi-Role”
      >Vintage Racer matured an advanced capability to prosecute targets of interest with kinetic effects before culminating in a FY 2019 flight test. Documentation and prototype technologies transitioned to the U.S. Army for follow-on acquisition activities

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, it's new and they don't have many. How much do you trust new Russian tech?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ...the frick is this post?

      Liquid fueled rockets are much more complex than solid fueled, therefore generally unsuitable for nuclear forces.
      Any mobile nuke ever has been solid fueled by necessity. Have you ever seen mobile cryogenic fuel facilities on a fricking TEL? Or in a submarine? Aboard a plane?

      The only thing you accidentally got right is that russia operates liquid-fueled (silo-launched) ICBMs which have pretty close to zero chance of successfully launching in an actual emergency.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't the R-36 storagle in launch configurations? one of the reasons why it has such a short life (10-15 years).

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wait, are those still in service?
          But oh god no, the fuel and oxidizer of that rocket family is the stuff of nightmares. Not cryogenic but among the worst poisons ever used as rocket propellant. That shit is the reason the land downrange from Baikonur is dead. Mere fumes of it also almost killed 3 US astronauts during the Apollo-Soyuz project.
          So, just your everyday soviet engineering.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Simmer down, spaz.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              And for some reason we stopped using that shit.
              Need I remind you of the titan explosion accident?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, in 2005. And didn't Apollo use it as well?
                >Need I remind you of the titan explosion accident?
                Minutemen have exploded as well.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > And didn't Apollo use it as well?
                No.
                The Saturns used RP1 (basically kerosene) and liquid hydrogen. Not something I want to drink, but not nearly as toxic.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The LM, CM and CSM, i.e. Apollo.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Hydrazine(s) as monopropellant still is common, nasty but common.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >nasty but common
              The stuff on top of the missile is worse.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Not cryogenic but among the worst poisons ever used as rocket propellant
            -t. coward

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    NATO has a habit of lagging behind Russias ICBM systems, we done it al throughout the Cold War.
    In the end it didn't matter though did it?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No it doesn't. What the actual frick are you on about?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        We absolutely did, especially in the 50's, 60's and early 70's then it was more of a parity from that point onwards. Some books on the topic you might like:
        "The Cold War: A New History" by John Lewis Gaddis
        "The Dead Hand: The Untold Story of the Cold War Arms Race and its Dangerous Legacy" by David E. Hoffman
        "Command and Control: Nuclear Weapons, the Damascus Accident, and the Illusion of Safety" by Eric Schlosser - primarily focused on the safety and control of nuclear weapons, but offers valuable insights into the Cold War arms race and the risks associated with nuclear proliferation. Its also quite amusing, or at least I found it to be so, especially the sections about nuclear safety.
        "Arsenals of Folly: The Making of the Nuclear Arms Race" by Richard Rhodes
        "The Cold War: A Military History" by David Miller.

        Russians were just decent at rocketry, and they should have been, they spent 13-20% of their entire military budget on it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Russian rocketry never surpassed 1960s tech, and they have been behind the west since then. Sorry to burst your bubble.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Read "the window of vulnerability that wasn't" and kys for spreading CIA fearmongering bullshit, Black person.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      NATO focused on solid rocket fuel for their icbms. Which means they can be stored in a ready to launch stage for decades. It also means they hit their targets faster. The entire reason Russia uses mobile launchers is because they use liquid fueled rockets, which have to be fueled before launching. Which can take up to an hour. Which means NATO nukes plaster Russia before Russia can even have it's nukes fully fueled. If the fricking conscripts haven't sold off all the fuel.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CIA already sabotaged them

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can't detect subs
    >can't detect stealth bombers
    >can't do shit about silos
    Elaborate on the advantages of this stupid ass thing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It looks good in the parades that commie shitholes love to do, and gives the illusion that the country is not pathetic but actually very strong.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd be pretty fricking impressed and intimidated if they drove a nuclear sub or a missile silo across red square tbh

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'd be more impressed if they flew a submarine across.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Surprised we haven't seen stunts like this already due to thirdie countries constantly trying to one-up each other.
            >"El Presidente, suspending a submarine in the air and flying it over the capital would use up all of our military budget for the next 5 years!"
            >"Yes, but those gays over at Despotistan had soldiers juggling tactical nukes last year, we need to top that!"

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'd be pretty fricking impressed and intimidated if they drove a nuclear sub or a missile silo across red square tbh

              I'd be more impressed if they flew a submarine across.

              This reminds me of a wargame scenario i did a while back that required me to figure out if a North Korean coastal submarine could be transported via C-5 Galaxy and be quickly restored to operational ability afterwards.

              Yes, it can.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kek

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It isn't even that hard once you realize the conning tower isn't pressurized, you can just cut it off then weld it back on. The hard part was figuring out how it could remote trigger US made Captive Gator torpedo mines using US sonar data, eventually i figured out they could download it from a tethered radio buoy and trigger them via wire.

                The Black Sea Fleet was not amused.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    platform easily spotted and trackable from space... seems like a huge flaw...

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And you can do what with that information? The US is not going to waste a SLBM or ICBM to hit a single launcher, and there's too many to effectively stop a counter-attack. The only solution is to make sure they are not road-mobile, Russia holds these launchers at their bases and only deploy them when at high-alert. If they get hit in a counter-force strike before scattering, they are effectively crippled.

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