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I've heard that in firing squads they secretly give one man a blank so that noone knows if they fired the killing shot. But I've also heard that an experienced shooter can tell the difference between firing a blank and a real bullet, which would defeat the point. Is this true?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes and yes. They've used wax slugs to simulate the bullets and whatnot to varying degrees.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    yes. this was mentioned in a british army report from ww1. here’d the quote: "I had the satisfaction of knowing that as soon as I fired, the absence of any recoil [indicated] that I had merely fired a blank cartridge".

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >But I've also heard that an experienced shooter can tell the difference between firing a blank and a real bullet, which would defeat the point. Is this true?

    100%. It's especially true if you're shooting a full-power rifle cartridge that normally kicks like a mule.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Are people really so internally conflicted that they'd volunteer to be on a firing squad but have moral qualms about firing the fatal shot? Give me a whole magazine of live rounds, I'll make sure the fucker is dead.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      firing squads are usually assigned details in a military setting, not volunteer details

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The other thing is that unless your commander is just executing people for no reason, it's normally done MPs rather than line troops.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Utah uses firing squads. They reportedly have no shortage of volunteers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      One guy in those VR chat interviews told the story of the first Russian he killed in Ukraine, he obviously volunteered to kill vatniks but it still affected him mentally.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because human beings are typically hardwired to not like killing other human beings

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ok tough guy, Im sure youve had the option presented to you to kill people before and said yes and had to live with the consequences of your actions. Especially on this board, youre probably a badass

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why should killing humans bother anyone who understands those taboos are mere words and social conditioning?

        Why would a adult value enemies, at all? Empathy is weakness and it's easily discarded. I feel a twinge of regret killing animals but I don't hate animals.

        Why would YOU care?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Hey. Go to bed. It's a school night

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why should killing humans bother anyone who understands those taboos are mere words and social conditioning?

      Why would a adult value enemies, at all? Empathy is weakness and it's easily discarded. I feel a twinge of regret killing animals but I don't hate animals.

      Why would YOU care?

      r/iamverybadass

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >But I've also heard that an experienced shooter can tell the difference between firing a blank and a real bullet
    That is certainly true if you are shooting slowly and carefully, a blank has a different report (sound) and different recoil from a standard cartridge. If a bunch of people are all standing close together and shooting at once? The difference may not be so easy to tell.
    Also, keep in mind that the main factor is psychological. All it needs to do is plant a tiny little bit of doubt in the shooter's minds and then they can internally think to themselves that they got the blank, or even *maybe* they got the blank, and that's largely enough.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they still do and modern solutions are more elegant. here's a gallows in japan, 3 buttons are pressed but only one opens the gallows.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      knowing the Japanese I'm surprised they don't just have some old Mr Miyagi looking guy who is professional hangman like Albert Pierrepoint

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obligatory

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No.
    Its an old myth so weaklings can fool themselves that they didnt actually shoot.
    A. Bolt action rifles - you see the round as you work the bolt. Blanks look different to projod.
    B. Semiauto. It wont cycle if you fire a blank without an obvious external BFA on the muzzle to hold in the gas pressure instead of the projo.
    Either way, you would have no recoil at all, which is obvious.
    It's bullshit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The slight obvious difference when loading the magazine.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even when unloading a bolt action after firing the crimped mouth of a blank is obviously different.
        Or with a semi without a BFA the one with the blank is the only rifle that didnt cycle and eject, so everyone would know who had the blank.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That's easily avoided if someone else loads the gun and hands it to the shooter.
        The difference in the report and the recoil would theoretically be obvious, but who knows under stressful circumstances. I know that I've found the process of sighting in certain rifles to have miserable recoil, while in the moment hunting I never noticed it because I had so many other things to think about.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's literally what happens.
          The rifles were pre-loaded with round in chamber the soldiers never actioned their own rifles, that's hollywood bullshit - hence the rifles were all on a rack and the firing squad filed up 1 by 1.
          Look into it.
          Why the fuck would they let the squad action their own and risk them seeing who had the blank? Defeats the whole purpose.
          Do some digging into it. It's why traditionally the safe direction was skyward until they were ordered to level their rifles and take up aim.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Working the bolt to 'Load' berfore aim and fire, its easy to see the ammo on the feedway as it goes in - so you can see it's not a blank.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    A shooter would instantly know if they had a blank. Blanks weren't common and we're in fact the exception.

    If they were used, it wasn't to comfort a shooter after the fact, but to ensure everyone shot straight. If someone did have last minute reservations, knowing that they might have a blank loaded may be enough to calm him down to the point where he doesn't fuck up his aim or flinch.

    But again, that's mostly hooey.

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