Newly obtained Iranian Shahed-129, Shahed-191, and Mohajer-6 already problematic for Russia

>"In early tests by the Russians, the Iranian drones experienced numerous failures, the officials said.
>'There are a few bugs in the system,' said an allied security official...“The Russians are not satisfied,' the official said."
>"But while the weapons could provide a significant boost for Russia's war effort against Ukraine, the transfer has been marred by technical problems, security officials from the United States and an allied government said in interviews. In early tests by the Russians, the Iranian drones experienced numerous failures, the officials said"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/08/29/iran-drones-russia-ukraine-war/

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Related

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What in the hell is happening there?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Iran released footage of their suicide drone in action with what appears to be quite a high explosive payload.
        When you slow the video down you can see the explosives are clearly inside the target and detonated before the drone even hit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          look up their other suicide drone videos
          at times the drone hits but explosion starts like 5 meters away

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They rigged the test target with explosives and detonated it before the suicide drone even got to it.
        And the drone missed btw.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        iran drone can detonate warheads from distance*~~

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hypervelocity drone, HATO is done for

      • 4 weeks ago
        /out/ie

        Drone went back in time after the explosion, to reach the target.
        What can NATO do against such advancements in physics?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Iranian suicide drone causes target destruction before it reaches target. They have found a way to negate temporal mechanics, we are all truly doomed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chad Iranians violating rules of causality.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chad Iranian tricked virgin vatniks. IDK how a country that produces atrocious cars could produce decent military equipment

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i cant read that site there's some shit that blocks you from scrolling
    also thats a zik drone, israeli made and operated by a dozen countries

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Buy the drone get the garden gnome

      In April 2021, the Australian Army directed that Elbit's battlefield management system be withdrawn from use by 15 May. The Australian Broadcasting Corporation reported that this action was taken due to concerns about the system's security. An Australian Financial Review columnist stated that the security problems comprised "a “backdoor” security vulnerability reportedly uncovered by the Australian Signals Directorate". The Australian Defence Magazine also reported that the system had failed two security milestones during 2020. Elbit denied that the system posed any security risks.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Let me guess, it's Chinese parts/software. Aussie authorities have a history of shooting themselves in the foot at the last minute so this could be one of those cases.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No it's just Israel being Israel.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Let me guess, it's Chinese parts/software. Aussie authorities have a history of shooting themselves in the foot at the last minute so this could be one of those cases.

        Literally every Israeli tech has backdoors.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just love how Russia has had to resort to buying drones from fucking Iran of all places. The absolute state of Russian manufacturing must be horrible.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Russia also has Israeli drones in its inventory.
      They should have followed western footsteps back in the 70s and jumpstarts their own program when they had the chance.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        unfortunately western gibs don't mesh well with their retarded doctrine

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is good news but I still don't like the idea. Drones can do a lot of damage to Ukraine. Ukies lack legit AA

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukies lack legit AA
      Seeing how the Russians still have Su-25's carrying out rocket and gun runs it must have indeed been degraded to an insane degree (or centered around areas not even remotely close to the front line).
      If Wargame taught me anything that's a bad omen for the Ukies, not that it matters a lot since it doesn't seem the Russians have been exploiting it.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like they hate garden gnomes because they feel competition

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ironic because the drones mentioned are basically just reverse engineered Israeli Hermes-450 via one that crashed in Syria 2008

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >https://www.washingtonpos-

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not an argument fag8rp0n

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a vid going around where some Ukrainians straight up jacked a Russian drone, and the operators promptly bug out because they know the drone is going to be used to trace them for a strike.

    Ukraine has some Hackers on steroids.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's just part of what some of their given anti-drone systems can do iirc. Reminder that Russia was given backdoor software by DJI to track Ukrainian drones since Day 1, so Russia has some capabilities that shouldn't be scoffed at. But I suspect some of these anti-drone systems may utilize one or two of those backdoors.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        aeroscope isn't some secret backdoor software
        ukrainians have the same system

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ukrainian autists with NATO intelligence, hardware, software and guidance vs. Russia's likely 10-30 year old computer systems

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ah yes, like the F16 which already flew in the late 70s. Lots of Western hardware is also 20, 30 or even more years old retard.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bitch at least post the right type of drone
    makes you wonder how iranians cope with these failing equipment

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      wtf is this shit

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that's the mine layer from red alert.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Howeizeh, a small tracked APC

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Looks like Sdkfz 251's retarded little brother.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Howeizeh, a small tracked APC

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Why does this thing look like it's built on an interwar light tank?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >cooling grid on the front of the tankette

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Iran’s modern drone program dates back to the 1980s yet they’re still far behind any western tech, or even Chinese and possible Russian tech.
    People always talk about Russia or china being paper Bears or Tigers but Iran to be the biggest paper façade of them all. Sure they’re good at subversion and causing issues for their enemies in Iraq, Syria, etc, but their parish status has been a great strain on them. Drones, rockets, and occasional mock ups to show the world. They can’t even get their nuclear program up and running with them help of allies and acquaintances after all these years.
    Mossad and foreign intelligence runs rampant and much of their populace wants to break from the nation or go against it. From Kurds, Arabs, Azeris, Baluchi, etc.
    what a mess of a state, at least their revolutionary aestheticism was on point

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder, if Iran decided they needed nukes urgently, would North Korea be willing to sell a handful of warheads?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think the transfer of nukes would be difficult to say the least when both nations are observed under the microscope. Iran has been working to build its own, purchasing some from North Korea would be a deterrent but Iran still needs to supply its own for self sufficiency and for the sake of saving face while also proving to the world it can do such things such as nuclear science on its own.
        Plus having its own nuclear program means Iran can supply itself with its own nuclear power, great for a nation of tens and tens of millions.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Submarine transfer. It could be loaded and unloaded in covered submarine pens, and the US would be pushing hard against maritime law if they forced it surface with depth charges. Freedom of navigation goes both ways, as we saw with Iranian gasoline shipments to Venezuala.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >would North Korea be willing to sell a handful of warheads?

        Almost certainly not. North Korea only has a small number of warheads (low hundreds at most, likely no more than a few dozen kept operational and ready for launch at any given moment). Nowhere near enough to protect them from America's murderous wrath if North Korean fissile material gets found in an Iranian bomb.

        If Iran wants the Bomb, it needs to build one on its own.

        Actually the relationship between Iran and Ukraine runs deep. Before Ukraine firmly positioned itself in the western camp, Ukraine supported Iranian heavy industry when no one else, not even the Russians, wanted to.

        That's what I was alluding to actually. Iran and Ukraine have historically enjoyed a good rapport. Iran refused to recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea, despite being Russia's most important Middle Eastern ally after Syria. Even that UA airliner being shot down over Tehran in early 2020 was met with a mostly muted response from Ukraine and was largely swept under the rug as a most unfortunate accident. Similarly, despite their constant foot-stomping about how they're going to wipe the Israeli-American Satan off the map, Iran has never expressed displeasure at Ukraine's President Zelensky for being a garden gnome.

        Opposition to Russia isn't even confined to a single ideological camp in Iran either. Sadegh Zibakalam and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who are on virtually opposite ends of the Iranian political spectrum, both loudly denounced the invasion. Iran couldn't even bring itself to vote against condemning the Invasion of Ukraine in the United Nations and chose to abstain instead. And let's not forget that Iran itself was invaded by the Soviet Union in 1941.

        Frankly, the Iranian government's "support" for Russia seems to be relegated to the absolute bare minimum required to maintain a functional relationship and offloading shoddy and untested equipment onto them for a quick buck and field testing to improve the performance of the next generation of drones.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Iran refused to recognize Russia's annexation of Crimea, despite being Russia's most important Middle Eastern ally after Syria.

          Iran and Russia were never allies. From Russia's perspective their relationship with Israel is closer than it is with Iran, because the two actually share dual-citizens and diaspora and have a lot of trade. Russia also sells weapons to Gulf Arab regimes and their allies like Egypt and warlord Haftar.

          Russia only treats Iran as a buffer against the US. Russia only sold Iran some weapons during the Iran nuclear deal but never after the US unilaterally pulled out from it, even though it was still valid for the other signees.

          >Even that UA airliner being shot down over Tehran in early 2020 was met with a mostly muted response from Ukraine and was largely swept under the rug as a most unfortunate accident.

          Aside from the plane and its crew itself, none of the victims were Ukrainian. They really didn't have much to go after Iran for, aside from trying to get them to pay damages for the plane.

          >Similarly, despite their constant foot-stomping about how they're going to wipe the Israeli-American Satan off the map, Iran has never expressed displeasure at Ukraine's President Zelensky for being a garden gnome.

          Iran has the second-largest gnomish population in Asia after Israel. They've never been anti-gnomish, only anti-Zionist. There are gnomish officials in Iran's government, and even cemeteries with Iranian garden gnomes who fought in the Iran-Iraq War.

          >Iran couldn't even bring itself to vote against condemning the Invasion of Ukraine in the United Nations and chose to abstain instead.

          Most developing countries abstained, including many of the US' own allies.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the only saving face might be them having better potential at surviving an oil crash than saudi arabia or other gulf states lmao

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Literally a missile with wings a tail and wheels
    Lmao

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >~~*WashingtonPost*~~
    Suggest you ignore globohomo sources.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >NOOOOOO MUH GLOBOHOMO
      cope and seethe

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Suggest you fuck off back to 4chan

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >~~*WashingtonPost*~~
          Suggest you ignore globohomo sources.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ew, a brown person.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To all americans talking shit, have you forgotten when iran hacked the most sophisticated US secret stealth drone with a russian EW system and landed on their base intact, giving them the opportunity to study all that advanced hardware and stealth material and even share the knowledge with china and russia, i remember pretty well.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Their copy is shit and China stole RAM secrets before that, but yeah, that wasn't great.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      considering the amount of these that israel shot down
      they failed the stealth part

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        first operational air to air interception of the apache btw
        here's one by f35

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        is that a propeller I am seeing? kek it's kinda cute like the YB-35.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That thing looks fake as fuck. Am I just retarded? Do they just look like that?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That thing looks fake as fuck. Am I just retarded? Do they just look like that?

        Lemme guess. This is fake as well?

        Iran has literally captured US troops entering their naval waters, they've certainly captured multiple drones entering their airspace.

    • 4 weeks ago
      /out/ie

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93U.S._RQ-170_incident
      Interesting read, didn't know about it.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the report said
    >the official said
    >ukraine said

    so basicly the drones work as intented

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is he…giving free cake? looks legit

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What are the chances that some Iranian techie is actually installing malware on all of the drones being shipped to Russia to render them combat ineffective?

    Last time I heard, a lot of Iranians, especially the younger and more educated (i.e. exactly the kind of person who would be in a position to sabotage drones), were in adamant opposition to the Russian invasion of Ukraine and even shouting "Death to Putin" in front of the embassy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually the relationship between Iran and Ukraine runs deep. Before Ukraine firmly positioned itself in the western camp, Ukraine supported Iranian heavy industry when no one else, not even the Russians, wanted to.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even a lot of the regime insiders in Iran support Ukraine.
      The alignment with Russia is hated even more than it is in Israel - and both Iran and Israel only care abouy Russia because of their supposed influence over the other.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Even a lot of the regime insiders in Iran support Ukraine.
        Can confirm
        >t. regime insider

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This.
        People forget Russia invaded Iran during WW2 along with the British, and nearly refused to leave until pressured by the US and UK.
        They also sponsored Commie insurgents like the MEK, which still annoys the Islamic Republic.
        They’re allies out of utter necessity, and if they get a new nuclear deal, they’ll drop them again.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >MEK, which still annoys the Islamic Republic.
          Except now they are supported by the US Congress.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      unless it was sanctioned by the very top of Iranian leadership, those techies would eventually be getting their kneecaps drilled out. the Iranian IC is known for its brutality

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Actually the relationship between Iran and Ukraine runs deep. Before Ukraine firmly positioned itself in the western camp, Ukraine supported Iranian heavy industry when no one else, not even the Russians, wanted to.

      They intentionally shot down a Ukrainian passenger jet a few years back out of impotent seething after the US droned some general
      What is this weird cope

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >They intentionally shot down a Ukrainian passenger jet a few years back out of impotent seething after the US droned some general

        That jet was full of Iranians, not Ukrainians. The AA radar was on and the weapon was moved or aimed in a manner it shouldn't have been. It was fired by accident, not "intentionally".

        Iran’s modern drone program dates back to the 1980s yet they’re still far behind any western tech, or even Chinese and possible Russian tech.
        People always talk about Russia or china being paper Bears or Tigers but Iran to be the biggest paper façade of them all. Sure they’re good at subversion and causing issues for their enemies in Iraq, Syria, etc, but their parish status has been a great strain on them. Drones, rockets, and occasional mock ups to show the world. They can’t even get their nuclear program up and running with them help of allies and acquaintances after all these years.
        Mossad and foreign intelligence runs rampant and much of their populace wants to break from the nation or go against it. From Kurds, Arabs, Azeris, Baluchi, etc.
        what a mess of a state, at least their revolutionary aestheticism was on point

        >Iran’s modern drone program dates back to the 1980s yet they’re still far behind any western tech, or even Chinese and possible Russian tech.

        Because of sanctions, Iran is unable to procure hi-tech or precise manufacturing equipment. So while their weapons are functional they are often less refined or have various shortcomings due to circumstance.

        Iran's weapons development over the past 30+ years is still very impressive, and technically they are one of the largest defense manufacturers. Most countries are so inept at making weapons but Iran actually does a good job in comparison, especially given the limitations.

        >Mossad and foreign intelligence runs rampant and much of their populace wants to break from the nation or go against it. From Kurds, Arabs, Azeris, Baluchi, etc.

        Compared to what it could have been, Iran is actually pretty well defended and secure. In an alternate scenario, there could be assassinations and bombings every week, instead it's only a handful a year. Iran is also a huge country where fully defending the border is impossible.

        Iran not being in a civil war or being invaded and occupied, unlike it's immediate neighbors is clear indication of what the alternate could have been. They've done a great job at security and defense in that light.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >was fired by accident, not "intentionally".
          lol lmao even

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think Russia has even gotten Iranian drones, at least not yet.
    So these reports of Russia not liking the performance of Iranian drones seem to be an attempt to cover for the fact that the initial reports were bullshit in the first place.

    If anything, these unfounded claims may have given Russia and Iran ideas to actually transact in the weapons, but Iran would need something in return too. They need fighter jets, tanks and armored vehicles.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    drone in your pic is a zik drone operated by UK army
    they later got a joint elbit-thales version named watchkeeper (one with a lower wing attached directly to the fuselage)

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    iran is a joke, tiers worse than russia

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Either "western officials" are bullshitting or every second soldier in the Russian army is a spy for western intelligence.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you can buy off a dead Russian soldiers family with a months worth of cooking oil and rice and they're glad for it, can you imagine how easy it is for a wealthy nation to bribe those in the know?

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Russians really dropped the ball in learning just how effective drones would be when that Azeri-Armenian war flared up recently. They had a front row seat to seeing just how effective drones were and they utterly ignored it.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How long until Russia starts importing Iranian fighter jets?

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    inb4 Iranian drones are actually decently functional and orcs need to break them to get them on their shit standard to make it possible for room temp IQ orcs to operate.

    Honestly I'm inclined to believe Iran is more advanced than Russia.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh, that, or the Iranians sold the Russians their export model!
      The ironing if so lmao

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Iranians have used their drones quite successfully despite reports of them failing right off the bat. Curiously, all reports of failures involve export customers, so could they be selling monkey models?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There's no advanced IP to protect. It's badly reverse-engineered American and Israeli tech.
          I'm also sure the Iranians wouldn't want to disappoint a senior defense partner.
          Much more simple and believable to imagine the systems are just bad, and there was never explicit confirmation until another country actually started using them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is probably the case since the iranians have been able to get their hands on american and israeli drone tech to base or improve their own designs off of

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Iranian drones were being used in the Tigray conflict but were supposedly pulled after poor performance IIRC
      https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2021/08/iranian-mohajer-6-drones-spotted-in.html?m=1

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The allied security official said the initial shipment included two models of Shahed drones, the Shahed-129 and Shahed-191, as well as the Mohajer-6. All are considered to be among Iran’s top-of-the-line military drones, designed for attacks as well as surveillance.
    So the best of the vaunted Iranian drones, one of the few areas of their crappy indigenous defense industry they felt comfortable boasting about, are discovered to be garbage the moment anyone outside Iran actually had to use them. Feels... predictable.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yemenis have used them to good effect however it's against saudis so not really a trial by fire

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone needs to step back and look at the parties involved in this story:
    1. Un-named US ally official with inside knowledge of Russian military drone test. Umm…what? Some Israeli dual-citizen scumbag? Just made-up?
    2. Iran. Advanced combat drone. Right.
    3. Russians. Even if the drone was fine it’s possible the Russian dudes will bitch about made up problems just to make their own crappy drones look better or at least no worse.

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >WaPo
    Fantastic source, oh wait. Go back to plebbit, retard.

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