It took Russian months to take that ground, Ukraine took it back in 3 days. While the amount of ground that changed hands isn't much it's a huge moral victory for Ukraine.
>months
An important factor to consider when discussing the cost of Russian advances isn't just the amount of time but also the amount of irreplaceable dead. The ground they've lost in the last few days likely cost them several thousand dead mobiks and convicts, and now it's all gone.
>"The Russian Ministry of Defense has announced that the Russian Army has pulled back from the northern outskirts of Bakhmut to “more advantageous positions by the Berkhivka Reservoir.”"
Tat's a pull-back of a few kilometers.
Not particularly interesting in it of itself, but remember this is largely being done with pre-existing TDF and a few hundred strong special forces groups.
If Russia is having force concentration issues with that, in their most logically well supplied and developed front of Bakhmut, then it bodes ill for areas more remote and less focused. Which is pretty much everywhere else.
>"The Russian Ministry of Defense has announced that the Russian Army has pulled back from the northern outskirts of Bakhmut to “more advantageous positions by the Berkhivka Reservoir.”"
Tat's a pull-back of a few kilometers.
Not particularly interesting in it of itself, but remember this is largely being done with pre-existing TDF and a few hundred strong special forces groups.
If Russia is having force concentration issues with that, in their most logically well supplied and developed front of Bakhmut, then it bodes ill for areas more remote and less focused. Which is pretty much everywhere else.
Oh, I should add, this means they have abandoned their attempt to cut off the Chasiv Yar - Bakhmut road, as this was the primary axis of that push.
This is Russian Schwerpunkt. It is pathetic that despite mobilization and prison recruitment campaigns to solve their "only" issue of manpower shortages, Russians fail to apply enough pressure on UAF to prevent them from any offensive actions in the most important battle.
The elevator is actually the "Grain Elevator", its typical for these countries to call them just elevator when in fact its a massive system of big concrete silo for holding wheat.
Go on google earth, look for the station and its the tall, big, box of concrete near the barns with the red roof
> extremely relevant filename
Everything from the initial invasion onwards has been darkly comic, but watching as memes and running jokes get defictionalized feels more than a little surreal.
Mass panic was because some retard zigger war reporter in telegram misreported the start of counteroffensive saying that Ukrainians were moving tanks in Belgorod as well as crossing Dnieper river on speedboats so vatniks went NUTS
Mass panic was because some retard zigger war reporter in telegram misreported the start of counteroffensive saying that Ukrainians were moving tanks in Belgorod as well as crossing Dnieper river on speedboats so vatniks went NUTS
I wonder how many of russian milbloggers are on ukrainian payroll. This was too perfect of a freakout from all sources simultaneously
Don't let the map fool you, it's a reservoir, and it's basically empty right now. .
This footage is supposedly of the area, from yesterday. 48.633911, 37.943579
https://twitter.com/region776/status/1656894839710179328
The treeline was probably dictating their movement more than the water
> lost by anyone else other than Wagner > lost by anyone else other than Wagner > lost by anyone else other than Wagner > lost by anyone else other than Wagner > lost by anyone else other than Wagner
>In the Malo-Ilinka direction (recall that Malo-Ilinka according to the maps of the General Staff is a settlement north of Bakhmut near the Stupka railway station) "no breakthroughs were allowed", but the Russian units occupied more favorable lines of defense near the Berkhovsky reservoir.
>This is confirmed by the abandonment of positions on the eastern outskirts of the village of Bogdanivka and the "gray zone" in the fields. Moreover, as of this morning, the entire area south of the reservoir as far as the dam and its eastern end had been abandoned. Thus, the "maneuver" to the depth of the front was 2 km. The line of contact runs 2 km west of Yagodnoye along the line Berkhovka - the eastern end of the reservoir - the northern outskirts of Khromovo.
>There have been no changes at other sites. By this hour, there is still no information about breakthroughs and advances by both the enemy and Russian units.
>The situation in Klescheevka has not changed since yesterday. Nearby AFU sources doubt the reliability of all the reported breakthroughs, as there has been no official confirmation from the Ukrainian General Staff.
>In total, more than 25 attacks were launched yesterday, involving a total of up to three battalions of enemy personnel.
>Most likely, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will continue their tactics of attacking in small groups and conducting massive reconnaissance battles along the entire line of contact. The main pressure points will be the positions of new units arriving by rotation to the threatened areas, as well as joints between the units.
>Due to the activation of the enemy in the Soledar direction, the Russian Armed Forces are forced to shift their attention: the AFU can take advantage of this and go on the offensive in another part of the front.
An encirclement at Bakhmut would be the quickest way to kill a fuckload of Russians but the glowies might tell them to leave Wagner intact to fuel the comming Russian civil war.
Daily reminder that not a single NATO-tier brigade is partaking in these assaults
, Not a single Leopard or Bradley, not even an M-55. This ain't the main thrust, no way no how. Word is most of this stuff is being done by the Azov 3rd Assault Brigade, who's been in Bakhmut since they were formed in November.
Likely this is just the RU force's position becoming untenable.
It's likely this is the result of the HIMARS hits a few days ago. Ruskies and Waggies were getting ready for a massive push before May 9th, and some drones managed to spot them. Artillery got called in, and great deal of the supplies that was allocated from other parts of the front, notably Soledar, went up in smoke.
It's likely this also means that Soledar is feeling a supply crunch as well. Not 100% on if its possible atm, but Ukraine might be able to push the Ruskies into the outskirts of Soledar, and possibly even force a general withdrawal from Bakhmut, or at least over the river near the railroad.
Thr defenses are actually weakest in Donestk because the soldiers are exhausted from months of attacking. It's a great opportunity to seize a bunch of Russian equipment, threaten their logistics for the entirety of occupied territory, and humiliate Putin.
If we only get one video out of the counter-offensive I want it to be a CV90 using air-burst rounds over a trench full of Vatniks. I don't think that's too much to ask for.
50 CV90s pledged iirc and around 10 Leo2s and Archers. According to Ukies they're in training but I'm thinking the war will be over before they get there.
Well those tanks can help train the FUTURE Ukrainian post-war army.
We all know Ukraine is going to make its military into a fucking juggernaut post-war, so that Russia never fucks with them ever again.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Russia is already not in a state to fuck with anyone. If they wanted to georgia could probably roll up and retake south ossetia.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Russia might fail so badly it breaks the fuck apart. Already you can see some of the elites preparing for this very scenario by forming their own private armies. Shit's going to be WILD if this comes to pass.
At least a few factions will be hellbent for revenge on Ukraine. Followers of Dugin (seen here in his default "Homeless Man" look), Strelkov, Putin, Nickelback.
They'll try to mount attacks against Ukraine with deranged zeal.
3 weeks ago
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I'd think they would first try to defeat their rivals in such a scenario to consolidate as much territory and power as possible before turning outward. Depending on how many rump statelets Russia devolves into, this could be quick, or it could turn into a years-long civil war. In any case, yeah, I wouldn't put it past them to YET AGAIN turn a revanchist eye toward the Ukes later, because Russians just never seem to learn, though then again, this may depend on what happens to the nukes in such a crazy scenario.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The best deterrent for Ukraine is a strong-ass military. They cannot trust the Russians to not be fucking vengeful schizos.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Right, which is why I said this may depend on the state of Russia's nukes. If, for instance, the international community (read: the US and China) decide to secure them and take them the fuck away while they can and none of the statelets have a nuclear deterrent, even if one or some of them are retarded enough to try to get revenge on Ukraine, the Ukes would have more than enough reason and incentive to not only drive them back but beat them into submission in their own territory.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Russia might fail so badly it breaks the fuck apart. Already you can see some of the elites preparing for this very scenario by forming their own private armies. Shit's going to be WILD if this comes to pass.
3 weeks ago
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Soon
3 weeks ago
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So serious question PrepHole.......
When will this be an actual "Shogun" clone game?
3 weeks ago
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>Sengoku Puccia
Who will be the nuclear Nobunaga?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
It'd better be a challenging game with raising factional armies, etc.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
whichever warlord controls gazprom, controls the russia
3 weeks ago
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The gas must flow.
3 weeks ago
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>Arctic
There's literally nothing up there, apart from some roaming cannibals and a few steppe villages.
Are ukrainians fucking retarded or what? Why are they doing the same mistake as Russia by attacking through highly industrial areas. They are waisting their grinding defense advantage.
>flee position >know others are fleeing >we should flee to this industrial area, we had a hard time taking it, we can make it a hard time for the Ukrainians too >how far are the others fleeing? What if they don’t stay to cover our flanks and we get encircled? >uuuuuuuh
Would you try if you were in charge of this shit? God it must be so horrifying to study graphics design for years just to get told to copypaste some edgy fantasy skull with a crosshair. Russian icons are fucking garbage.
>skull must be properly centered otherwise it must mean whoever made it is bad at their job
It's called art retard. Do you live in an oppresive regime where everything must be made to strict measure or something?
Vatnik is a pro-war, pro-russian person in general, not necessarily a military personnel. Meanwhile mobik is mobilized personnel, not necessarily pro-russian
>Vatnik
Classic Russia stronk nationalist. Low class, low intelligence, boorish, wants to physically dominate world to recover from humiliation >Mobik
Mobilized Russian soldier, aka retarded conscript from bumfuck village >Zigger
Specifically a pro special military operation tard. Referred to in intellectual circles as a “zed nationalist”, they are noted for essentially thinking the current war efforts don’t go too far enough.
People use them pretty interchangeably, but vatnik is a term in use for about 20-30 years
>Vatnik
Classic Russia stronk nationalist. Low class, low intelligence, boorish, wants to physically dominate world to recover from humiliation >Mobik
Mobilized Russian soldier, aka retarded conscript from bumfuck village >Zigger
Specifically a pro special military operation tard. Referred to in intellectual circles as a “zed nationalist”, they are noted for essentially thinking the current war efforts don’t go too far enough.
People use them pretty interchangeably, but vatnik is a term in use for about 20-30 years
I just LOVE how every little retreat is marked with these "it can't possibly be Wagner's fault" boxes.
Being this invested in the blame game already, before the real, large-scale Ukrainian counterattack has even kicked off, speaks volumes about the level of morale, cooperation and cohesion on the Russian side.
Not to mention that Russia has already started hyping up said counter attack so that it will be easier to go "It only advanced my some Xkm, it's not that bad really"
>3rd Azov makes a minor counter attack on the flanks of the Bakhmut super fortress >Russians panic and begin to rout >Ukies press their advantage and begin to undo months of russian advances
Basically how I understand it at the moment
Yeah but Russian media and people like Prigozhin have spend the last couple weeks/months about how the Ukrainians have endless resources for the counter-offensive and will potentially inflict huge territorial losses.
So that when it actually happens they can turn around and act like it's no big deal
Probably retreating towards Bakhmut. Russia has to be very fucked to not defend the city, which I doubt. Even if Bakhmut falls, I don't see why this would be that relevant in comparison to Kherson or Kharkiv or Kiev.
>Probably retreating towards Bakhmut.
lets hope for an encirclement, though since that hasn't happened yet in this war besides mariupol, I don't have my hopes up
Probably retreating towards Bakhmut. Russia has to be very fucked to not defend the city, which I doubt. Even if Bakhmut falls, I don't see why this would be that relevant in comparison to Kherson or Kharkiv or Kiev.
The main difference between right now and the previous phases of the war, is that Ukraine finally has some real offensive capability. Ukraine also has some disadvantages it didn't have before, like pressure to do a successful attack whereas earlier they were winning if they just stopped Russia from taking more territory. But at this point - unlike previously - they are actually capable of encircling a city if they wanted to
If Russia withdraws from Bakhmut it isn't a big deal, if they get encircled thousands of the most experianced fighters Russia has die / are captured.
This is the only reason I can see for Ukraine to make a serious push near Bukhmut and if they think they can pull it off it could be the smart play.
It's not, Bakhmut is a tiny, strategically irrelevant town
It's also the place where Russia spent nine months and tens of thousands of men bashing their heads against the Ukrainian defences only to instantly fold as soon as they pushed back
That's why it's so funny
Greeley Colorado, a town most famous for the never ending stench of cow shit and a JBS slaughterhouse is larger than Bismarck. That should tell you something.
>NOOOOOO NOT BISMARCK WE CAN'T LOSE BIG BISMARCK! >Wait, where is Bismarck, again? >Fucking North Dakota? Really?
I have some family in North Dakota, my grandparents moved from South Dakota during the Dust Bowl. There's a good reason they left besides the crop failures, the Dakotas are just a very boring, empty place. For perspective, one of their "fun facts" is that they have more cattle in the region than people. It's one of THOSE states.
>Wait their is a city named Bismarck in North Dakota?
Yeah. Bismarck was founded in the early 1870s when there were about 38.5 million people in the United States, 1.7 million of which had been born in Germany. Add in second-generation German immigrants and the number gets much bigger.
It's actually kinda funny to read about Americans back then complaining about those damn Germans coming over here, taking all the jobs, not learning our language, opening up saloons in respectable towns, and absolutely refusing to assimilate--- not that I'm racist, I mean the Pennsylvanian Dutch are fine people, old American stock and all that, but these newcomers... etc., etc.
3 weeks ago
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There's a shitload of towns with russian names too, like St. Petersburg
3 weeks ago
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Plenty of Volga Germans moved to the US - there’s a Volga, South Dakota.
It's a tiny, worthless town that the Russians inexplicably decided to focus the totality of their offensive capability upon
They started bragging about its imminent capture last July and continue to this very day
The town itself doesn't matter. It's just the first town they'd have to take to push past Ukie defenses, and then it's right by their supply lines. The town doesn't matter it's just the focal point of U v R fighting.
They had the GDP of Italy before the war with more than twice the population.
They're poor, corrupt, and just using the remains of the Soviet Union.
Also most of their current industry is based in western tech, and it's crippled by sanctions.
>They had the GDP of Italy before the war with more than twice the population.
About 1/3 of that was pure hydrocarbons trade btw, so in actuality gdp per capita involvement was even lower
Yeah, it's an insult to Italy to be compared with Russia.
Pastafags have a decent MIC, a diversified economy, great standards of living, and unironically much less corruption and crime.
What's the food like in Mississippi?
The women?
The scenery?
The architecture?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Louisiana is better anyway and has better food
t. John Folse stan
https://i.imgur.com/A9MczSj.jpg
gotten worse today, new breakthrough in the north. Ukraine reports around 18km2 liberated so far. map related
OH NO ZISTERS DEPLOY THE LAKHTA IMMEDIATELY THE WEST ARE MOCKING US
3 weeks ago
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It’s the blackest state in the union on a percentage basis. It used to be majority black before the “great migration” of the 1950’s had a bunch of the black population move north for jobs and Jim Crow laws.
It would normally be an insult to another country to be compared to Italy. Italy's economy is incredibly fucked up.
>Lots of tax evasion and corruption, >terrible infrastructure and public projects, >the South has been stagnant for half a century >seriously incompetent pension system, >second highest public debt to gdp in the EU after Greece at 155% >double digit unemployment rates for most of the past 30 years >gdp today is lower than it was 15 years ago
Putin gave the order to produce more ammo to the ammo production companies, however he cannot build factories or force them to expand their production lines, so all he did was tell them to work a bit harder for less money with obvious results.
that girl is literally MADE for Marichka's strapon
By this point Alpha is basically Ame-chan from Needy Girl Overdose, under her public persona she is a blonde-haired, elegant girl who convinces chuds and thirdies even while she lets slip mockery against them, she is gonna defeat the evil NAFO-sisters and bring a multilateral world of equality.
In truth she is a broken shell of a woman, bitchy, depressed, addicted to vodka, self-harming, listening to advice of her imaginary produce/lover P-chan while being incapable to recover from her family issues and how she was bullied by Reich-chan.
Would she finally be capable to recognize being an Empire is not great and come face real life while letting go of Monke or will she completely succumb to her madness, HIV, alcoholism, unrestricted us of nooks, desperation and self-destruction?...
I am actually starting to find disturbing the similitudes, among others because in one ending she starts an apocalyptic cult.
Quick question: Would you trust Russian tank crews with tactical nuclear warheads?! Jesus the thought alone just fills me with fear. Some 84 IQ drunkard from fuck-knows where has the power to level an entire field solo.
Yes >Empires Mod for Half Life 2 >research to shoot radioactive tank shells that poison entire areas to kill infantry
Shit was so kino, I wonder if there’s still a community playing
>I wish I was Armatard, because then I'd get to live rent free in so many people's houses
That's really fucking pathetic. Do you not have anything better to aspire to?
NTA, but even his own kind, the other vatniks, think he's a digusting nobody and want nothing to do with him, that's not really anyone wanna be unless he has no idea who he actually is, which is probably the case.
Basically, what is Putin's army now? On the whole, it is a collection of little or no trained and unmotivated "condottieri". Most of them are under duress. They are commanded by carefully selected, often hereditary imbeciles, morons and alcoholics, pederasts in uniform, and simple Putin thieves.
This peshmerga has no intelligence, no communications, no interaction. The officers can't fight, don't know and don't want to, because they are all stupid Russian degenerates.
The first serious blow from a more or less real army and the entire Tuvinian peshmerga will rush to flee, sweeping away the Chechen barrier troops. This is if the announced attack by the AFU takes place.
And if the Ukrainian command manages to find the most vulnerable spots in the Pro-Putin defense. Only the Donetsk units are relatively stable there, and maybe some units of the Airborne Forces and Vagner, but they, by all appearances, have been already minced.
Therefore further it is a matter of technique: to find the areas defended by drunkards, chmobiks, convicts and to strike there. And then a race of pro-Putin activists to Rostov and the Crimea (in September, such a marathon was seen in the Kharkiv region). But this is if the announced offensive will take place and if Bakhmut will not happen the other way around (that is, a prepared meat grinder for a village no one needs)
Wagner isn't part of the Russian army so they don't have direct means to communicate with them at all. So if they book it, there is NO WARNING for the Russian army behind them when the Ukie army comes rolling through. It's such a shit show.
>Wagner isn't part of the Russian army so they don't have direct means to communicate with them at all.
Jesus fucking Christ, is this actually true? Are russians really this fucking retarded? Somone please tell me this is just a joke, this has to be a joke.
That's literally what happened. Remember, Wagner is NOT officially part of the Russian army even though it obviously is. Why would the Russian army have a direct means of communicating with them?
Wagner fled and then the 72nd whatever faced Ukrainians out of nowhere that werent' supposed to be there with no warning.
Priggy got ahead of the story, saying the 72nd fled, to deflect blame.
>this has to be a joke.
No, this is the Russian military
Yes. Battalions have a hard time communicating with each other too and Russians didn’t start integrating even company level ability to call in fires until after the war
It’s much worse between branches. The Air Force does not communicate with local army units. In Georgia this led to Russians shooting down six of their own aircraft, causing them to ground all aircraft for the rest of the war as the Air Force refused to fly. PS: that war was only 8 days long. It is also speculated to be part of why the navy didn’t act aggressively at the start of the war - the services aren’t integrated and there’s distrust and rivalries.
Thanks guys, i'm still a bit dumbstruck, my expectations for Russia aren't really high, it's usually the opposite, but that's just another low.
Yes. Battalions have a hard time communicating with each other too and Russians didn’t start integrating even company level ability to call in fires until after the war
It’s much worse between branches. The Air Force does not communicate with local army units. In Georgia this led to Russians shooting down six of their own aircraft, causing them to ground all aircraft for the rest of the war as the Air Force refused to fly. PS: that war was only 8 days long. It is also speculated to be part of why the navy didn’t act aggressively at the start of the war - the services aren’t integrated and there’s distrust and rivalries.
No way, I cannot believe they do not at least have radios compatible with army radios even if no encryption. I can believe them fucking up and not calling in their retreat in panic and desperation to cover own asses but lacking all ability to communicate? Can't possibly be true.
Bruh, don't connect Peshmegrabros with monke. They would spread whole ruzz army on a slice of bread given the right tools. Don't forget how they assraped ISIS by refusing to die
>let enemy army assault city. >Slowly filter in minimal troops to delay the enemy >Grind down the enemy over months using city as a fortification >slowly train and equip a powerful army in the rest of the country while the enemy exhausts itself >the enemy's flanks are guarded by different units who don't communicate well with the rest of the army. >attack the flanks to surround the enemy army which has captured most of the city
I'm really getting tired of these comparisons, considering Russia today is acting exactly like the Soviet Union did in WW2, including human waves, excessive losses of combat vehicles and tanks, their tendency to rape, their use of "commissars" to kill soldiers who retreat, and their astonishing incompetence. They're dying like flies, just like in WW2. The only difference is that they have no industry, second front or lend lease to rely on.
If anything, the Ukrainians are fighting more like the Germans, except lend lease is on their side this time.
Romanians faced overwhelming odds and Germans needed a convenient scapegoat to blame with the failure of their retarded excursion into Stalingrad. Nothing could be done.
Germans were idiots leaving the flank to a force they knew was not well equipped and supplied, if the flank was crucial they should have reinforced it.
>Russians spend months and thousands of lives for dozens of metres a day >Ukrainians take months of Russian progress in three days of attacks that aren't even the real counter-offensive
This is a diversion, bahmut is just a game, they are going to attack in the south soon. I think the idea is to causes some panic in bahmut, shill it on the web, to make the russians respond with force, taking away troops from the actual offensive area.
Very likely, but the Russian forces are so depleted and Bakhmut so important to them from a morale/propaganda perspective, that even these limited attacks are likely going to be sufficient to destroy what littlle morale the russians have and force at least localized routs. Honestly i don't think this will amount to much until they start attacking south from Siversk
We'll know when Ukraine commits when we see Leopards and Bradleys in video. So far it's been Azov and the 3rd Assault Battalion riding YPR-765 and BMPs
These won't be released until the offensive is all but over and Ukrainians approach pre planned defensive positions that will make up their next lines. They have an iron grip on opsec and the shit that gets posted.
>These won't be released
We know what units are assaulting and Ukraine didn’t commit a single offensive brigade there yet, it was only brigades that were in Bakhmut for months
>Wagner claims Russian Army abandoned positions >Russian MOD correspondents claim Wagner abandoned positions >Ukrainian 3rd Assault Battalion commander claim Wagner ran and left Russian Army positions to be encircled
hmmm
I think all are right but are trying to shift the blame. Wagner is leaving because it is now clear to them that they Russian military is purposefully trying to use them as bullet sponges, and because of that all the other forces are leaving because they don't want to be in. Meat grinder in a city they know is now largely worthless due to Russian military incompetence
Months of grinding and thousands of deaths and they lose it all in a matter of three days. Absolute kek. I have no fucking idea what the fuck Russia thinks its doing but at this point we've gone beyond sunk cost fallacy into something more akin to human sacrifice.
By the time this war is won, Ukrainian troops better get excellent pensions and a ton of other benefits (including discounts on silly car mods like us Americans, lol). They fucking earned them.
IT STARTS WITH
ONE TOWN, I DON′T KNOW WHY
IT'S BEEN 9 MONTHS SINCE WE STARTED TO TRY
KEEP THAT IN MIND AS VATNIKS DEFINE THAT WAR GOES JUST FINE
SHELLS ARE A VALUABLE THING
WATCH ME CALL SHOIGU BUT HIS PHONE JUST RINGS
WATCH ME BEG PUTIN AT THE END OF THE DAY
BUT HE HAS NOTHING TO SAY
(IT'S SO UNREAL)
DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO
WATCH MY INFLUENCE GO RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW
TRYIN' TO TAKE BAKHMUT, DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
KILLED THOUSANDS OF MOBIKS YET UKIES
(STILL WON'T GO)
HOHOLS ARE STILL INSIDE
AND EVEN THOUGH WE TRIED THEY STILL WON'T DEPART
I THOUGHT IT WOULD AN EASY VICTORY
WHO COULD'VE SEEN THAT THIS WOULD BE SO HARD
WE TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER
BAKHMUT WON'T FALL WE LOST IT ALL
BUT IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER
I really wish I could be a fly on the wall of the meetings where the money is allocated. How many bribes and offers have been sent to russian logistics to 'lose' or sell equipment?
The civilian population must be between zero and ten people at most, when it used to be a big city. Instead they used it like a CoD map and even blew up the cool MiG 17 statue.
If you're a Russian soldier in urban Bakhmut and you know the flanks are slowly crumbling; what motivation would you have to assault the remaining fortified positions?
Have you ever considered some men go to war just to fight? A lot of Russians just want to be in a war for some reason and don't care about the details. There are men like this in every country.
If you're a Russian soldier in urban Bakhmut and you know the flanks are slowly crumbling; what motivation would you have to assault the remaining fortified positions?
Money, robbery, looting. Wagner is just a paramilitary branch of the Russian Mafia. The only thing that motivates them is the same that motivated them in Ukraine in 2014 or Syria or the Central African Republic: Money, power, respect.
Zisterz? What ze fuck is happening?
big cauldron forming, piggies are so fucked
Are they aware yet?
NOOOOOOOOOOO! BENCHOD BLOODY BITCH!
DO NOT REDEEM BAKHMUT! DO NOT REDEEEEEEEEEEEEEMM!
TZD.
They had a massive panic last night over gains that tiny?
It took Russian months to take that ground, Ukraine took it back in 3 days. While the amount of ground that changed hands isn't much it's a huge moral victory for Ukraine.
>months
An important factor to consider when discussing the cost of Russian advances isn't just the amount of time but also the amount of irreplaceable dead. The ground they've lost in the last few days likely cost them several thousand dead mobiks and convicts, and now it's all gone.
Бaбы нoвых нapoжaют
Russians are truly pathetic. It takes them months to get what Ukraine regains in fucking days.
Utterly pathetic. Slava Ukraini.
Keep in mind this is the vatnik version of the alleged gains
>"The Russian Ministry of Defense has announced that the Russian Army has pulled back from the northern outskirts of Bakhmut to “more advantageous positions by the Berkhivka Reservoir.”"
Tat's a pull-back of a few kilometers.
Not particularly interesting in it of itself, but remember this is largely being done with pre-existing TDF and a few hundred strong special forces groups.
If Russia is having force concentration issues with that, in their most logically well supplied and developed front of Bakhmut, then it bodes ill for areas more remote and less focused. Which is pretty much everywhere else.
considering the pace of russian advances in those areas over the last few months, this is is a blitzkreig in comparison.
Oh, I should add, this means they have abandoned their attempt to cut off the Chasiv Yar - Bakhmut road, as this was the primary axis of that push.
They would need an spare brigade in reserve to cover those breakthroughs in the flanks and I doubt they have it
>our massive 300m
>their tiny 3km
This is Russian Schwerpunkt. It is pathetic that despite mobilization and prison recruitment campaigns to solve their "only" issue of manpower shortages, Russians fail to apply enough pressure on UAF to prevent them from any offensive actions in the most important battle.
remember this war is now in phase where we got news about people fighting for day for elevator unironically
The elevator is actually the "Grain Elevator", its typical for these countries to call them just elevator when in fact its a massive system of big concrete silo for holding wheat.
Go on google earth, look for the station and its the tall, big, box of concrete near the barns with the red roof
t. Work in the mill industry
Yeah, but it's still funny
> extremely relevant filename
Everything from the initial invasion onwards has been darkly comic, but watching as memes and running jokes get defictionalized feels more than a little surreal.
That's kind of how Kherson started. There was like a week of small advances and Russians coping, saying the small gains means the offensive failed.
Mass panic was because some retard zigger war reporter in telegram misreported the start of counteroffensive saying that Ukrainians were moving tanks in Belgorod as well as crossing Dnieper river on speedboats so vatniks went NUTS
Dunno what's more funny, that he said this retarded shit or that they believed him.
It took months for Russians to make those same amount of gains while it is taking Ukraine days. It's shows exhaustion in the Russian lines
I wonder how many of russian milbloggers are on ukrainian payroll. This was too perfect of a freakout from all sources simultaneously
they're not. The first three retards to sing like canaries are on Pigozhin's payroll and part of Lakhta.
Where would the northern attack push next? It doesn't seem there's enough space to manuever, there are settlements and a river very close together
Don't let the map fool you, it's a reservoir, and it's basically empty right now. .
This footage is supposedly of the area, from yesterday. 48.633911, 37.943579
https://twitter.com/region776/status/1656894839710179328
The treeline was probably dictating their movement more than the water
Oh I see, still I wonder how much can they gain from this, maybe just a way to put pressure on the enemy
The general situation in the special military operation zone is under control.
There is no panic in Basing-se
> lost by anyone else other than Wagner
> lost by anyone else other than Wagner
> lost by anyone else other than Wagner
> lost by anyone else other than Wagner
> lost by anyone else other than Wagner
Man, looks at all that occupied Russian territory.
>In the Malo-Ilinka direction (recall that Malo-Ilinka according to the maps of the General Staff is a settlement north of Bakhmut near the Stupka railway station) "no breakthroughs were allowed", but the Russian units occupied more favorable lines of defense near the Berkhovsky reservoir.
>This is confirmed by the abandonment of positions on the eastern outskirts of the village of Bogdanivka and the "gray zone" in the fields. Moreover, as of this morning, the entire area south of the reservoir as far as the dam and its eastern end had been abandoned. Thus, the "maneuver" to the depth of the front was 2 km. The line of contact runs 2 km west of Yagodnoye along the line Berkhovka - the eastern end of the reservoir - the northern outskirts of Khromovo.
>There have been no changes at other sites. By this hour, there is still no information about breakthroughs and advances by both the enemy and Russian units.
>The situation in Klescheevka has not changed since yesterday. Nearby AFU sources doubt the reliability of all the reported breakthroughs, as there has been no official confirmation from the Ukrainian General Staff.
>In total, more than 25 attacks were launched yesterday, involving a total of up to three battalions of enemy personnel.
>Most likely, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will continue their tactics of attacking in small groups and conducting massive reconnaissance battles along the entire line of contact. The main pressure points will be the positions of new units arriving by rotation to the threatened areas, as well as joints between the units.
>Due to the activation of the enemy in the Soledar direction, the Russian Armed Forces are forced to shift their attention: the AFU can take advantage of this and go on the offensive in another part of the front.
i see a cat
I see a hat
that fucking cat
>Verification not required
I think it's better with the map oriented the correct way
its to help the blind
Yeah that way it makes it look like the cat has dived into the front
I prefer it oriented the other way, because it looks more like the original meme.
>Red arrows advancing backwards
what did they mean by this
Merely a tactical demonstration of good will.
What was left of the RU forces swapped sides and are now advancing with Ukraine.
another pro-russia map showing a Russian advance arrow moving backwards
They noticed a superior position eastward and with their superior optempo they beat the cockhole nazipig ukrotrannies to it in a race.
The gloves are finally coming off.
I genuinely cannot tell if this is satire
it clearly is, why are you so autistic?
Because vatniks have been acting that absolutely retarded it’s getting hard to tell
Have you seen how the 4chanjeets write?
Militaryland isn’t pro Russian you fucking retard.
Advancing in reverse, classic russian move.
TURNCOATS
I really hope this isn't where they decide to launch their counteroffensive at. That would be extremely gay
An encirclement at Bakhmut would be the quickest way to kill a fuckload of Russians but the glowies might tell them to leave Wagner intact to fuel the comming Russian civil war.
See
, Not a single Leopard or Bradley, not even an M-55. This ain't the main thrust, no way no how. Word is most of this stuff is being done by the Azov 3rd Assault Brigade, who's been in Bakhmut since they were formed in November.
Likely this is just the RU force's position becoming untenable.
It's likely this is the result of the HIMARS hits a few days ago. Ruskies and Waggies were getting ready for a massive push before May 9th, and some drones managed to spot them. Artillery got called in, and great deal of the supplies that was allocated from other parts of the front, notably Soledar, went up in smoke.
It's likely this also means that Soledar is feeling a supply crunch as well. Not 100% on if its possible atm, but Ukraine might be able to push the Ruskies into the outskirts of Soledar, and possibly even force a general withdrawal from Bakhmut, or at least over the river near the railroad.
Soledar was hit? Do we have any footage?
3rd Azov was just waiting until the mud dried up and the ground solidified
Thr defenses are actually weakest in Donestk because the soldiers are exhausted from months of attacking. It's a great opportunity to seize a bunch of Russian equipment, threaten their logistics for the entirety of occupied territory, and humiliate Putin.
Daily reminder that not a single NATO-tier brigade is partaking in these assaults
but moooooooooom, I wanna see Brads using anti-personnel rounds to shred up vatniks in trenches
Imagine a Gepard turning a whole russian squad into fine red mist.
Same, I want footage of the Bradley terminating meatbags through its Terminator-vision.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/FHBftxz1UNI
Haveserved anons pls tell me the Bradley still has red thermals.
If we only get one video out of the counter-offensive I want it to be a CV90 using air-burst rounds over a trench full of Vatniks. I don't think that's too much to ask for.
The Swedes sent them CV90s?
50 CV90s pledged iirc and around 10 Leo2s and Archers. According to Ukies they're in training but I'm thinking the war will be over before they get there.
Well those tanks can help train the FUTURE Ukrainian post-war army.
We all know Ukraine is going to make its military into a fucking juggernaut post-war, so that Russia never fucks with them ever again.
Russia is already not in a state to fuck with anyone. If they wanted to georgia could probably roll up and retake south ossetia.
At least a few factions will be hellbent for revenge on Ukraine. Followers of Dugin (seen here in his default "Homeless Man" look), Strelkov, Putin, Nickelback.
They'll try to mount attacks against Ukraine with deranged zeal.
I'd think they would first try to defeat their rivals in such a scenario to consolidate as much territory and power as possible before turning outward. Depending on how many rump statelets Russia devolves into, this could be quick, or it could turn into a years-long civil war. In any case, yeah, I wouldn't put it past them to YET AGAIN turn a revanchist eye toward the Ukes later, because Russians just never seem to learn, though then again, this may depend on what happens to the nukes in such a crazy scenario.
The best deterrent for Ukraine is a strong-ass military. They cannot trust the Russians to not be fucking vengeful schizos.
Right, which is why I said this may depend on the state of Russia's nukes. If, for instance, the international community (read: the US and China) decide to secure them and take them the fuck away while they can and none of the statelets have a nuclear deterrent, even if one or some of them are retarded enough to try to get revenge on Ukraine, the Ukes would have more than enough reason and incentive to not only drive them back but beat them into submission in their own territory.
Russia might fail so badly it breaks the fuck apart. Already you can see some of the elites preparing for this very scenario by forming their own private armies. Shit's going to be WILD if this comes to pass.
Soon
So serious question PrepHole.......
When will this be an actual "Shogun" clone game?
>Sengoku Puccia
Who will be the nuclear Nobunaga?
It'd better be a challenging game with raising factional armies, etc.
whichever warlord controls gazprom, controls the russia
The gas must flow.
>Arctic
There's literally nothing up there, apart from some roaming cannibals and a few steppe villages.
The uparmored flavor they had for peacekeeping missions even.
Can't wait for cybernetic SAS General Boris Johnson and NATO mulatto commandos to start going door to door like Dugin prophesied.
Verdunbros, are we going to make it?
Time/area flies when ukies have initiative. I fear Verdun won't be surpassed. We have to wait for the battle of Beijing...
Are ukrainians fucking retarded or what? Why are they doing the same mistake as Russia by attacking through highly industrial areas. They are waisting their grinding defense advantage.
>attack through an area they know well and have been defending for months
>as the Russians flee
>a bad idea
Lol
Seeing they took back in 3 days what took Russian months to capture I think there might not be the same level a grind headed both ways.
These are the same speed of advances as the russians so far.
Delusional
>flee position
>know others are fleeing
>we should flee to this industrial area, we had a hard time taking it, we can make it a hard time for the Ukrainians too
>how far are the others fleeing? What if they don’t stay to cover our flanks and we get encircled?
>uuuuuuuh
>skull is not even properly centered
is their graphics intern even fucking trying?
Of course he is. Graphics design is his passion.
Would you try if you were in charge of this shit? God it must be so horrifying to study graphics design for years just to get told to copypaste some edgy fantasy skull with a crosshair. Russian icons are fucking garbage.
>skull must be properly centered otherwise it must mean whoever made it is bad at their job
It's called art retard. Do you live in an oppresive regime where everything must be made to strict measure or something?
I'm just gonna post this here for no reason whatsoever
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Uranus
>Operation Theiranus
What's the difference between a vatnik and a mobnik?
Vatnik is a pro-war, pro-russian person in general, not necessarily a military personnel. Meanwhile mobik is mobilized personnel, not necessarily pro-russian
Thanks for the lucid explanation, bros 🙂
>Vatnik
Classic Russia stronk nationalist. Low class, low intelligence, boorish, wants to physically dominate world to recover from humiliation
>Mobik
Mobilized Russian soldier, aka retarded conscript from bumfuck village
>Zigger
Specifically a pro special military operation tard. Referred to in intellectual circles as a “zed nationalist”, they are noted for essentially thinking the current war efforts don’t go too far enough.
People use them pretty interchangeably, but vatnik is a term in use for about 20-30 years
I just LOVE how every little retreat is marked with these "it can't possibly be Wagner's fault" boxes.
Being this invested in the blame game already, before the real, large-scale Ukrainian counterattack has even kicked off, speaks volumes about the level of morale, cooperation and cohesion on the Russian side.
Let them believe that, more blame towards Russian Armed Forced = more infighting
Not to mention that Russia has already started hyping up said counter attack so that it will be easier to go "It only advanced my some Xkm, it's not that bad really"
>3rd Azov makes a minor counter attack on the flanks of the Bakhmut super fortress
>Russians panic and begin to rout
>Ukies press their advantage and begin to undo months of russian advances
Basically how I understand it at the moment
Yeah but Russian media and people like Prigozhin have spend the last couple weeks/months about how the Ukrainians have endless resources for the counter-offensive and will potentially inflict huge territorial losses.
So that when it actually happens they can turn around and act like it's no big deal
anon.....
https://nitter.cz/i/status/1657026959891636225
Probably retreating towards Bakhmut. Russia has to be very fucked to not defend the city, which I doubt. Even if Bakhmut falls, I don't see why this would be that relevant in comparison to Kherson or Kharkiv or Kiev.
>Probably retreating towards Bakhmut.
lets hope for an encirclement, though since that hasn't happened yet in this war besides mariupol, I don't have my hopes up
The main difference between right now and the previous phases of the war, is that Ukraine finally has some real offensive capability. Ukraine also has some disadvantages it didn't have before, like pressure to do a successful attack whereas earlier they were winning if they just stopped Russia from taking more territory. But at this point - unlike previously - they are actually capable of encircling a city if they wanted to
If Russia withdraws from Bakhmut it isn't a big deal, if they get encircled thousands of the most experianced fighters Russia has die / are captured.
This is the only reason I can see for Ukraine to make a serious push near Bukhmut and if they think they can pull it off it could be the smart play.
>experienced fighter
Mobiks and prison legioneers?
Did we follow the same bakhmut?
It's not, Bakhmut is a tiny, strategically irrelevant town
It's also the place where Russia spent nine months and tens of thousands of men bashing their heads against the Ukrainian defences only to instantly fold as soon as they pushed back
That's why it's so funny
>tiny
>irrelevant
It's almost the size of Bismarck, North Dakota, which is a capital city in the Union.
and?
that's still tiny and irrelevant by my standards
no-one outside of America cares about your little podunk state capitals
Dude, in any invasion of America Bismarck, ND is an insignificant city
Ah, can't forget about Bismarck, North Dakota.
i guarantee most americans haven't even heard of that "city" with one tall building
Sometimes i forget Bismarck even exists, and i was actually looking to head up to ND for work a few years ago.
North Dakota isn't even the best Dakota.
Greeley Colorado, a town most famous for the never ending stench of cow shit and a JBS slaughterhouse is larger than Bismarck. That should tell you something.
>NOOOOOO NOT BISMARCK WE CAN'T LOSE BIG BISMARCK!
>Wait, where is Bismarck, again?
>Fucking North Dakota? Really?
I have some family in North Dakota, my grandparents moved from South Dakota during the Dust Bowl. There's a good reason they left besides the crop failures, the Dakotas are just a very boring, empty place. For perspective, one of their "fun facts" is that they have more cattle in the region than people. It's one of THOSE states.
>Union
Wait their is a city named Bismarck in North Dakota?
There are way weirder places in the you ass of eh
There's a town of Moscow in Idaho
Let's not forget Dickshooter, Idaho
>Wait their is a city named Bismarck in North Dakota?
Yeah. Bismarck was founded in the early 1870s when there were about 38.5 million people in the United States, 1.7 million of which had been born in Germany. Add in second-generation German immigrants and the number gets much bigger.
It's actually kinda funny to read about Americans back then complaining about those damn Germans coming over here, taking all the jobs, not learning our language, opening up saloons in respectable towns, and absolutely refusing to assimilate--- not that I'm racist, I mean the Pennsylvanian Dutch are fine people, old American stock and all that, but these newcomers... etc., etc.
There's a shitload of towns with russian names too, like St. Petersburg
Plenty of Volga Germans moved to the US - there’s a Volga, South Dakota.
>which is a capital city in the Union
lmao that is such an ESL-tier way to phrase that. No American talks like this
Da comrad Bismarck (Lassallegrad) is city of federal significance in the union.
German, never heard of it. No European cares about capital cities of irrelevant US states like North Dakota.
North Dakota is not irrelevant. It has a shitload of oil/gas/wheat/corn/onions and nukes. The weather sucks though. Cold and windy all the time.
>the world renowned megacity of bismarck north dakota
Second funniest post I've read today.
Guiz don't forget about Bismarck, North Dakota.
Check the map for yourself hohol shill
Metropolis Bakhmut is much bigger than even New York!
The hedgehogs have well and truly eaten the cactus once again.
Is that you?
Months of grinding and littering the hills with dead wagners, all undone in a matter of days.
hohols are getting roasted good
yesterday the "big" hohol counteroffensive happened and failed miserably
Trying "to smooth over the situation in the media space" isn't going to work, when even Prigozhin is crying, zigger:
I thought it was all just another twitter offensive, Pidor?
>Lost by russian forces on May 12th.
That explains the spam earlier today. God, they never learn.
Need a qrd on this place cause it sounds like blood gulch and I'm too lazy to keep up with this war
it's almost Verdun tier
It's a tiny, worthless town that the Russians inexplicably decided to focus the totality of their offensive capability upon
They started bragging about its imminent capture last July and continue to this very day
The town itself doesn't matter. It's just the first town they'd have to take to push past Ukie defenses, and then it's right by their supply lines. The town doesn't matter it's just the focal point of U v R fighting.
Russia had 9 month to creat an industry of war to produce ammo, vehicle and artillery. how can they lack absolutely everything ?
They had the GDP of Italy before the war with more than twice the population.
They're poor, corrupt, and just using the remains of the Soviet Union.
Also most of their current industry is based in western tech, and it's crippled by sanctions.
>They had the GDP of Italy before the war with more than twice the population.
About 1/3 of that was pure hydrocarbons trade btw, so in actuality gdp per capita involvement was even lower
Yeah, it's an insult to Italy to be compared with Russia.
Pastafags have a decent MIC, a diversified economy, great standards of living, and unironically much less corruption and crime.
>great standards of living
By which you mean lower than mississippi.
weird how mississippi without blacks is so nice
Italy has a higher HDI than Mississippi, thoughbeit.
What's the food like in Mississippi?
The women?
The scenery?
The architecture?
Louisiana is better anyway and has better food
t. John Folse stan
OH NO ZISTERS DEPLOY THE LAKHTA IMMEDIATELY THE WEST ARE MOCKING US
It’s the blackest state in the union on a percentage basis. It used to be majority black before the “great migration” of the 1950’s had a bunch of the black population move north for jobs and Jim Crow laws.
>ameritard thinks Italy in 2023 is like in The Godfather's flashbacks
It would normally be an insult to another country to be compared to Italy. Italy's economy is incredibly fucked up.
>Lots of tax evasion and corruption,
>terrible infrastructure and public projects,
>the South has been stagnant for half a century
>seriously incompetent pension system,
>second highest public debt to gdp in the EU after Greece at 155%
>double digit unemployment rates for most of the past 30 years
>gdp today is lower than it was 15 years ago
And somehow Russia comes off LEAGUES worse.
9 months? You mean 15 months, or almost a decade if you think about it.
>how can they lack absolutely everything ?
Putin gave the order to produce more ammo to the ammo production companies, however he cannot build factories or force them to expand their production lines, so all he did was tell them to work a bit harder for less money with obvious results.
Nor were they expecting anything more than another Georgia tier capitulation of "drive your tanks up and everything will be understood".
But is this really the case? I had the impression this was just a made up excuse for the incoming failure
Z-Zisters what's going on? Weren't we supposed to be on the offensive?
that girl is literally MADE for Marichka's strapon
>Marichka's strapon
She calls it her NLAW
The long dong of NLAW never arrives lubed
this fucking war. the absolute last thing i expected was for it to even plant the seed of a femdom on woman fetish
I think I've seen a pic of Marichka raping her on 4chan but can't seem to find it
Built for Azov strap
By this point Alpha is basically Ame-chan from Needy Girl Overdose, under her public persona she is a blonde-haired, elegant girl who convinces chuds and thirdies even while she lets slip mockery against them, she is gonna defeat the evil NAFO-sisters and bring a multilateral world of equality.
In truth she is a broken shell of a woman, bitchy, depressed, addicted to vodka, self-harming, listening to advice of her imaginary produce/lover P-chan while being incapable to recover from her family issues and how she was bullied by Reich-chan.
Would she finally be capable to recognize being an Empire is not great and come face real life while letting go of Monke or will she completely succumb to her madness, HIV, alcoholism, unrestricted us of nooks, desperation and self-destruction?...
I am actually starting to find disturbing the similitudes, among others because in one ending she starts an apocalyptic cult.
>I wish I was Armatard
Why would you wish to be brown and a gay?
Why do you want to be a narcissistic schizophrenic with obsessive ticks and a control complex?
ESL ALERT *WOOP WOOP* ESL ALERT *WOOP WOOP* ESL ALERT *WOOP WOOP*
thanks for the laffs
Quick question: Would you trust Russian tank crews with tactical nuclear warheads?! Jesus the thought alone just fills me with fear. Some 84 IQ drunkard from fuck-knows where has the power to level an entire field solo.
Imagine finding abandoned tanks with nuclear warheads.
Yes
>Empires Mod for Half Life 2
>research to shoot radioactive tank shells that poison entire areas to kill infantry
Shit was so kino, I wonder if there’s still a community playing
Imagine Ukrainian farmers with nukes
funniest days of the war, if war is funny
>I wish I was Armatard, because then I'd get to live rent free in so many people's houses
That's really fucking pathetic. Do you not have anything better to aspire to?
This is PrepHole, why would you expect anyone who uses it to have real aspirations or dreams
NTA, but even his own kind, the other vatniks, think he's a digusting nobody and want nothing to do with him, that's not really anyone wanna be unless he has no idea who he actually is, which is probably the case.
Basically, what is Putin's army now? On the whole, it is a collection of little or no trained and unmotivated "condottieri". Most of them are under duress. They are commanded by carefully selected, often hereditary imbeciles, morons and alcoholics, pederasts in uniform, and simple Putin thieves.
This peshmerga has no intelligence, no communications, no interaction. The officers can't fight, don't know and don't want to, because they are all stupid Russian degenerates.
The first serious blow from a more or less real army and the entire Tuvinian peshmerga will rush to flee, sweeping away the Chechen barrier troops. This is if the announced attack by the AFU takes place.
And if the Ukrainian command manages to find the most vulnerable spots in the Pro-Putin defense. Only the Donetsk units are relatively stable there, and maybe some units of the Airborne Forces and Vagner, but they, by all appearances, have been already minced.
Therefore further it is a matter of technique: to find the areas defended by drunkards, chmobiks, convicts and to strike there. And then a race of pro-Putin activists to Rostov and the Crimea (in September, such a marathon was seen in the Kharkiv region). But this is if the announced offensive will take place and if Bakhmut will not happen the other way around (that is, a prepared meat grinder for a village no one needs)
Wagner isn't part of the Russian army so they don't have direct means to communicate with them at all. So if they book it, there is NO WARNING for the Russian army behind them when the Ukie army comes rolling through. It's such a shit show.
>Wagner isn't part of the Russian army so they don't have direct means to communicate with them at all.
Jesus fucking Christ, is this actually true? Are russians really this fucking retarded? Somone please tell me this is just a joke, this has to be a joke.
That's literally what happened. Remember, Wagner is NOT officially part of the Russian army even though it obviously is. Why would the Russian army have a direct means of communicating with them?
Wagner fled and then the 72nd whatever faced Ukrainians out of nowhere that werent' supposed to be there with no warning.
Priggy got ahead of the story, saying the 72nd fled, to deflect blame.
I know there's bigger fish, but more than anyone else I want to see that gay strung up. What a cunt.
Thanks guys, i'm still a bit dumbstruck, my expectations for Russia aren't really high, it's usually the opposite, but that's just another low.
>this has to be a joke.
No, this is the Russian military
Yes. Battalions have a hard time communicating with each other too and Russians didn’t start integrating even company level ability to call in fires until after the war
It’s much worse between branches. The Air Force does not communicate with local army units. In Georgia this led to Russians shooting down six of their own aircraft, causing them to ground all aircraft for the rest of the war as the Air Force refused to fly. PS: that war was only 8 days long. It is also speculated to be part of why the navy didn’t act aggressively at the start of the war - the services aren’t integrated and there’s distrust and rivalries.
Empire of Japan tier
No way, I cannot believe they do not at least have radios compatible with army radios even if no encryption. I can believe them fucking up and not calling in their retreat in panic and desperation to cover own asses but lacking all ability to communicate? Can't possibly be true.
Bruh, don't connect Peshmegrabros with monke. They would spread whole ruzz army on a slice of bread given the right tools. Don't forget how they assraped ISIS by refusing to die
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1657052416905232384
Lugansk, big hit
>This tweet is unavailable
I can see it. It's a short video of an explosion
Something bad burning (not kids!)
I'M SORRY STORM SHADOW!
>https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/1657052416905232384
Get you a case of beer for that one
It's over.
The NAFOtrannies are coming for him.
>let enemy army assault city.
>Slowly filter in minimal troops to delay the enemy
>Grind down the enemy over months using city as a fortification
>slowly train and equip a powerful army in the rest of the country while the enemy exhausts itself
>the enemy's flanks are guarded by different units who don't communicate well with the rest of the army.
>attack the flanks to surround the enemy army which has captured most of the city
I feel like I've read this story before.
At least Stalingrad held a strategic meaning.
I'm really getting tired of these comparisons, considering Russia today is acting exactly like the Soviet Union did in WW2, including human waves, excessive losses of combat vehicles and tanks, their tendency to rape, their use of "commissars" to kill soldiers who retreat, and their astonishing incompetence. They're dying like flies, just like in WW2. The only difference is that they have no industry, second front or lend lease to rely on.
If anything, the Ukrainians are fighting more like the Germans, except lend lease is on their side this time.
Nature is healing
Tell me you got all your history education from youtube videos without telling me you got all your history education from youtube videos.
.t romanian here. Sorry my guys fucked up defending the flank back then.
Don't worry, just think about how interesting Moldavia and Transnistria is gonna get in the coming years
chudvania is going to be weird post war kek.
If there’s any sort of internal civil war in russbecistan, will the japs try to take the kurils?
Why? Moldiva set the course to the EU and without winning Ukraine russia can't do anything about it.
That's my point. I bet the EU/Romania/Moldova will be very happy about Ukraine removing the russians in Transnistria and ends forever that problem.
So far the Russian garrision at Transnistra have been the smartest Vatniks of the whole war.
>"Go fight in Ukraine!!!"
>"Sorry command, our transport broke. We're going to sit in our lawn chairs and drink vodka."
What, not the unending pile of unpeeled potatoes that has prevented the Belorussians from doing fuck all?
Romanians faced overwhelming odds and Germans needed a convenient scapegoat to blame with the failure of their retarded excursion into Stalingrad. Nothing could be done.
Not your fault that the germans were retarded
Germans were idiots leaving the flank to a force they knew was not well equipped and supplied, if the flank was crucial they should have reinforced it.
2 missiles confirmed to have hit the city.
Bongs, I kneel.
I don't think these are Storm Shadows, seem to tiny for that.
Ass is in ass, no reason to panic
Hohol PrepHoleope will not save them from Russia cock up asshole!
>eskimos have many words for snow because they're surrounded by it. Snow makes up their culture and life.
>russians have many words for ass because...
>"anonymous" website says so
I hatefucked your mum in the ass last night too, she enjoyed it.
>Verification not required.
the arse is in the arse well and truly now, and those who know things surely know about things which are coming now into pass.
>the arse is in the arse well and truly now, and those who know things surely know about things which are coming now into pass
t.
everyone understands everything
the ass is in the ass
I'm still waiting for the Kherson trap to activate.
>flags
My ass is, well and truly, inside my ass.
How does that work? You have a Klein bottle for a colon or something?
>put image over other image!
What does this prove?
it mean general winter is here hohol and assholes of ukraine forces soon to meet russian cocks!
>le big scary bear of Russian progress
Those flag emojis and muh Orthodox Christian LARPing combined with an anime pfp says it all.
Thats right, ruzzians do fall for this every single time
Vatnik cope is on another level.
>every single time
>every
The trap has closed.
The cauldron is simmering!
Ho boy, hard to believe that meme was well over a year ago now.
the bear is opening it's jaws wide to accept a giant fucking cock; really in russia that's a promotion since it means no more anal rape.
The two in the pink, one in the stink pincer. Such tactics are unknown to the russian military more interested in ass.
Don't you love it? Something happens, vatniks can't control the threads about it, they give up and make their own, they suck and look pathetic.
It's funny. No way this butthurt vatnik is chill while he spams the board
Has anyone called the zigger bakhbroken yet?
New map update : The 200th MRB have lost their positions on the Northern flank of Bakhmut and fallen back.
zizters... tens of thousands of lives and months of time... regained in a day...
SHOIGU, GERASIMOV, WHERE ARE MY FLANKS?
It's a sign!
Amogus
no escape from amogus no matter the phase of the war
>Russians spend months and thousands of lives for dozens of metres a day
>Ukrainians take months of Russian progress in three days of attacks that aren't even the real counter-offensive
This is a diversion, bahmut is just a game, they are going to attack in the south soon. I think the idea is to causes some panic in bahmut, shill it on the web, to make the russians respond with force, taking away troops from the actual offensive area.
Very likely, but the Russian forces are so depleted and Bakhmut so important to them from a morale/propaganda perspective, that even these limited attacks are likely going to be sufficient to destroy what littlle morale the russians have and force at least localized routs. Honestly i don't think this will amount to much until they start attacking south from Siversk
No one thinks they're gonna start their big offensive in the part of the front that had the heaviest fighting for months, yeah
We'll know when Ukraine commits when we see Leopards and Bradleys in video. So far it's been Azov and the 3rd Assault Battalion riding YPR-765 and BMPs
These won't be released until the offensive is all but over and Ukrainians approach pre planned defensive positions that will make up their next lines. They have an iron grip on opsec and the shit that gets posted.
>These won't be released
We know what units are assaulting and Ukraine didn’t commit a single offensive brigade there yet, it was only brigades that were in Bakhmut for months
nice, very nice. well done
>Wagner claims Russian Army abandoned positions
>Russian MOD correspondents claim Wagner abandoned positions
>Ukrainian 3rd Assault Battalion commander claim Wagner ran and left Russian Army positions to be encircled
hmmm
I think all are right but are trying to shift the blame. Wagner is leaving because it is now clear to them that they Russian military is purposefully trying to use them as bullet sponges, and because of that all the other forces are leaving because they don't want to be in. Meat grinder in a city they know is now largely worthless due to Russian military incompetence
nice, but the map is already out of date
link to new map
see
Tempo Tempo
good job
do i get a cookie
no but here's a chocolate bar
only if you post the template so >we can paste it onto new Bakhmut maps
No, but get ready to do it again in a couple hours
real time footage of russian armed forces redeploying to more favourable position
Out of the ass and into the ass, as they say.
Months of grinding and thousands of deaths and they lose it all in a matter of three days. Absolute kek. I have no fucking idea what the fuck Russia thinks its doing but at this point we've gone beyond sunk cost fallacy into something more akin to human sacrifice.
gotten worse today, new breakthrough in the north. Ukraine reports around 18km2 liberated so far. map related
Literally no longer being surrounded, looks like they might cut off that Russian push up on the top left
The intent is clear. Ukies want to capture the elevated positions near Bakhmut so they can effectively strike Fagner positions inside the city.
New goodwill gesture incoming
Explain why Russia would have so much macaroni on the front line
unsecured tank macaroni storage
They ran out of Spaghetti to spill, they have to make do with Macaroni.
Tesy
By the time this war is won, Ukrainian troops better get excellent pensions and a ton of other benefits (including discounts on silly car mods like us Americans, lol). They fucking earned them.
#StopTheSteal
#ShoiguWheresMuhAmmo
IT STARTS WITH
ONE TOWN, I DON′T KNOW WHY
IT'S BEEN 9 MONTHS SINCE WE STARTED TO TRY
KEEP THAT IN MIND AS VATNIKS DEFINE THAT WAR GOES JUST FINE
SHELLS ARE A VALUABLE THING
WATCH ME CALL SHOIGU BUT HIS PHONE JUST RINGS
WATCH ME BEG PUTIN AT THE END OF THE DAY
BUT HE HAS NOTHING TO SAY
(IT'S SO UNREAL)
DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO
WATCH MY INFLUENCE GO RIGHT OUT THE WINDOW
TRYIN' TO TAKE BAKHMUT, DIDN'T EVEN KNOW
KILLED THOUSANDS OF MOBIKS YET UKIES
(STILL WON'T GO)
HOHOLS ARE STILL INSIDE
AND EVEN THOUGH WE TRIED THEY STILL WON'T DEPART
I THOUGHT IT WOULD AN EASY VICTORY
WHO COULD'VE SEEN THAT THIS WOULD BE SO HARD
WE TRIED SO HARD AND GOT SO FAR
BUT IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER
BAKHMUT WON'T FALL WE LOST IT ALL
BUT IN THE END IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER
Solid attempt.
STOP IT NAFO
YOU'RE CREATING INTERNAL DISSENT
I really wish I could be a fly on the wall of the meetings where the money is allocated. How many bribes and offers have been sent to russian logistics to 'lose' or sell equipment?
The civilian population must be between zero and ten people at most, when it used to be a big city. Instead they used it like a CoD map and even blew up the cool MiG 17 statue.
If you're a Russian soldier in urban Bakhmut and you know the flanks are slowly crumbling; what motivation would you have to assault the remaining fortified positions?
Have you ever considered some men go to war just to fight? A lot of Russians just want to be in a war for some reason and don't care about the details. There are men like this in every country.
Not many of those folks left in the russian ranks at this point, with most of them being dead and buried by now
You have drank the Kool aid, the Russian army is still growing.
Yeah they're bolstering it with a fresh batch of 10th graders.
Wagners are not paid to think, but to fight.
Money, robbery, looting. Wagner is just a paramilitary branch of the Russian Mafia. The only thing that motivates them is the same that motivated them in Ukraine in 2014 or Syria or the Central African Republic: Money, power, respect.
I'm just amazed how long its been a stalemate for, I would've thought they've be more movement one way or another.
Are they really just going to keep grinding along the same pseudo border for another year? 2 years?
How long can this really last