new ukraine infographic just dropped

source: https://twitter.com/Volodymyr_D_/status/1655866883369848832/photo/1

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Holy shit that curve on Russian infantry strength. That's actually hilarious, they really did just mulch mobiks by the truck load.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      And this Tank Gap. Sweet God. And this will still be getting worse for Russia.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Life is the Monke's currency, spend it well.
      Or at least spend it as well as anything is spent in Russia. If they've only lost 50% with poor results, that's actually pretty good by Russian standards.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This curve reminds me of picrel. Someone could edit it to show monke drifting over his own troops.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, no thanks. Lets not pollute the world with even more shitty wojacks

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      According to that, Russia has taken at least 500K casualties. How many did the undoctored leaks say again?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It says losses not casualties. Remember, there are some whose contracts have expired, there are desertions and so on.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Common sense will dictate survivors and deserters are a negligible proportion of the total. Or are you really claiming this massive slope is in any way affected by contracts running out and deserters?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Common sense will dictate survivors (...) are a negligible proportion of the total.

            what kind of vatnik dimension is this?

            normally you would say that fatalities are small but very visible proportion of the total losses and most losses are infact survivors - the wounded for example....

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Wounded count as casualties and losses, so neither post makes any sense. In any case, as pointed out by

              Just answer the fricking question instead of being so inanely defensive. I actually don't know what the leaks said. Also, actual losses would be even higher than the slope so your posts doesn't even make sense. After all, they were recruiting the entire time.

              , the entire post doesn't make any sense.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Just answer the fricking question instead of being so inanely defensive. I actually don't know what the leaks said. Also, actual losses would be even higher than the slope so your posts doesn't even make sense. After all, they were recruiting the entire time.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not noticing the left side of the graph showing them mulching their professional soldiers by the truck load

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    So this is the power of the second best army in the world... Impressive...

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Theres no way the difference in fielded tanks is that low between the two

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      nah it's credible

      ?t=531

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      if you told me half the thing's we're seeing now were true a year ago, i would tell you to take your meds.

      i think we all globally forgot to take or medication, this timeline is schizophrenic.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lines up with the leaks

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    So based on this, Russia is going to win, right? They have x2 the amount of armoured vehicles, 1000 more artillery pieces (minimum), more troops, more tanks....

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      based on the beginning of that chart, russia should've won a long time ago. but they didn't.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >curve of manpower looks like a Z that fell over
      You can’t make this shit up

      This is bait but it makes me feel like replying. If they couldn’t win with massive advantages in all four categories, they aren’t winning with much smaller advantages in 2 categories.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The force difference isn't high enough to win an offensive war. If you want to win on someone else's home turf you better bring 4x or more superiority.
      This ratio can be changed with technologies and , to a lesser degree, strategy. But Russia has no advantage in either of those.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      > Russia is going to win, right? They have x2 the amount of armoured vehicles
      Well, they had X16 the amount of armoured vehicles. Can you spell "trend"?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >more troops
      too much of a give away at this being bait

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      this has to be a troll post. no one on earth is this dumb.
      >i started with 7x and i still have 2x a year in! that means I'm winning!
      my man learn how to read a trend line if you really think this

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wish there was another infographic with the numbers of shells available and the state of the airforces

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russian air force is basically untouched.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Russian air force
        > "basically untouched"

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, that's the view of Christopher G. Cavoli, Supreme Allied Commander Europe.
          https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-army-bigger-than-start-ukraine-war-us-general-2023-4
          >"The air force has lost very little. They've lost 80 planes — they have another 1,000 fighters and fighter-bombers. The Navy has lost one ship"

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I just don't get why they aren't flying them then.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Because they'll lose more. It's just that simple. Perhaps they're saving them for the counter-offensive. Or there is little munitions for them. As far as I know they just lob missiles and gliding bombs these days.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Perhaps they're saving them for the counter-offensive.
                Anon... the counter offensive is over, it died on the steps of Vuhledar.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                He means saving it to use on Ukraine when they attack.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Russia probably has orders of magnitude more planes than pilots.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I had a guy in Norway who used to be in the air force. He said that out of every 100 guys who applied, only two ended up making it as pilots. So I assume that is the same everywhere. Being a pilot is actually really hard and requires a lot of work. Since machines are infinitely more complex than they were in WW2 you can't just do a 6 week crash course and perform alright.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Lack of skilled pilots and SEAD capability probably. Baofeng based communications would probably mean than any larger scale air operation will end in number of returning planes getting fratricided by their own AA.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >I just don't get why they aren't flying them then.
              maybe because planes are stored as well as tanks

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the navy has lost one ship
            Shit like this is why sites like globalfirepower suck donkey balls

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              After their losses were counted they somehow increased Russia’s power level. I don’t know how that happens.

              I had a guy in Norway who used to be in the air force. He said that out of every 100 guys who applied, only two ended up making it as pilots. So I assume that is the same everywhere. Being a pilot is actually really hard and requires a lot of work. Since machines are infinitely more complex than they were in WW2 you can't just do a 6 week crash course and perform alright.

              Especially given how inept Russians are, the ratio is probably even smaller.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The Navy has lost one ship
            moronic shit like this is why nobody trusts the western propaganda. there is video evidence for the sinking of multiple russian ships, hell they lost 3 at berdyansk alone.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Something-something, LSTs aren't combat vessels, something-something
              But yes, it's stupid. There's a bunch of them slowly corroding underwater.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >they have another 1,000 fighters and fighter-bombers
            Translation:
            >fricking russians, at this rate there's no way that the USAF can justify the NGAD to Congress if they and the chinks turn to be paper tigers that cannot even do SEAD

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I just don't get why they aren't flying them then.

            Lack of pilots
            Lack of maintenance
            Afraid of AA

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            The vast majority those 1000 aircraft are likely not capable of flying, just like the "10000 tanks" turned out to be about 3000.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              In the 2nd chechen or Georgia war (don't member which one) Russia found out if they want to fly bomber sorties 24/7, they can only muster 4 simultaneous bombers cause lack of pilots.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          They mostly have useless dumb bombs/rockets so they can't fly without SEAD. The VVS couldn't destroy all SAM systems and the kalibr/shaheds spam couldn't deplete the SAM.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/mKcFJKi.png

        >Russian air force
        > "basically untouched"

        Yes, that's the view of Christopher G. Cavoli, Supreme Allied Commander Europe.
        https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-army-bigger-than-start-ukraine-war-us-general-2023-4
        >"The air force has lost very little. They've lost 80 planes — they have another 1,000 fighters and fighter-bombers. The Navy has lost one ship"

        I just don't get why they aren't flying them then.

        Because they'll lose more. It's just that simple. Perhaps they're saving them for the counter-offensive. Or there is little munitions for them. As far as I know they just lob missiles and gliding bombs these days.

        Orcs don't understand how to use an air force.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >that pull up at 00:15 in the second plane clip
          Well at least he tried

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        > Aircraft don't wear out with increased use.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >shells available
      Closely keep secret
      >air force
      Russia should have majority of it's airframes intact, but it's hard to estimate what's the wear on them vs maintenance capabilities and the number of pilots. UA lost majority of theirs

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine has 1.5x the tanks they had at the beginning of the war
    >all courtesy of puccia

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No fricking way.
    I know russians take incompetence to whole another level but this is just too much.

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >those tank losses
    Jesus Christ

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty cool, but Russia still has an overwhelming advantage in aircrafts both fixed and rotary wings.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Now if only they could make use of that advantage other than objectively pointless piecemeal attacks.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What the FRICK does this graph even mean? Someone explain. All I can tell are lines are going up and down without any rhyme or reason.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. moron

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Than how come since the mobilization only Russia has been making gains? If you apply some critical thinking you can figure out these graphs are horse shit

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you see how the russian infantry graph shoots up, and then starts quickly declining again? Yeah, that's the reason. They paid for those square kilometers with thousands of their soldiers' lives.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        And you do realize Russia might as well have an unlimited number of reservists they can call compared to the Ukraine? This isn't Russia's first rodeo, and I'm quite sure not even China could match Russia's numbers, especially counting their willingness to defend their country

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Their last draft was a disaster. Another one would basically start a civil war.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            The last draft never stopped.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          This IS Russia's first rodeo in a war of aggression where they don't hold a decisive military advantage. The previous time was back with USSR and Afghanistan. How'd that go?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >only making gains
      stop or I'll bust a gut

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Russia has been making gains
      They weren’t lol

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia has gained like 10s of kilometers per month max. Muh Bakhmut is a distraction from the fact that Russia has lost territory in some areas.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >A vatnik lowlife recommending others to think critically.
      Peotry

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not on Russia's side. I just don't believe either side's propaganda

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          cool it with the antisemitism

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you ignore the propaganda and only look at the facts, what do you see since december?
          >Soledar captured
          >Bakhmut is slowly being captured by brutal, street to street urban war, encirclement failed
          >Vuhledar and Avdiivka offensives failed, huge equipment losses for Russia
          >All other fronts static, despite Russia's apparent superiority

          That does not paint a picture that shows Russian forces in a good light, no matter what the media on both sides say

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            The fronts are static because Russia has been focusing on building extensive fortifications on their side. They've also been saving their hardware and missiles for something big. Once summer kicks in we'll see how things play out

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >They've also been saving their hardware and missiles for something big.
              You people have been saying that since the convoy of death turned into a giant traffic jam.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Huh, I wonder why they've been digging in. Might have something to do with them pissing away their offensive capabilities. Or being afraid of Ukrainian ones.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                We had this thing called winter. It's all the work of newly mobilized men, and all good armies never have their men sitting idly by.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, good armies send their men to die in meat waves. Also, Vuhledar proves russians don't care about time of the year if they really want to try an offensive.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >We had this thing called winter.
                Which is where Bakhmut Of Two Weeks, The Vuhledar Catastrophe, and Avdiivka Abandonment occurred within. These were no small movements of Russian men and material, and we know for a fact the 155th in particular was revived several times over by newly minted mobilized. Who then all went on to die as well.
                >It's all the work of newly mobilized men
                Actually quite the opposite. The mobilized tend to be consumed immediately on entry (again, see Vuhledar for details) while those veteran units adjacent to such "festivities" appear to have sufficient clout (read: actual mutiny potential) to avoid being involved .

                Which is to say these fabulous defensive arrangements are staffed mainly by people who cannot be trusted to reliably reach outside their FOB and attack Ukrainian positions with any real vigor.
                I'm sure when they're actually under pressure and their lines of communication are being cut the moral will improve and they won't abandon their posts.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >russian army went on strike after only 1 year
                and people thought the french were pussies.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >, and all good armies never have their men sitting idly by.
                The mobiks sure put in the work at Vuhledar.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >russian winter offensive successfully memoryholed

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You mean like the Ukrainian spring counteroffensive?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                kys

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                the russian one happened tho

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The spring counteroffensive was desperately trying to hold Artemivsk (and failing, to a degree)

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The Ukrainian spring counter-offensive hasn't begun, but the pre offensive shaping operations have...

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Aretemivsk
                Back to your containment board /misc/shit.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >le both sides
          Poetry continues

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >pretending what happened at Kyiv, Kharkiv, and Kherson didn't happen.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      russia has lost a small amount of territory in aggregate since the mobik surge (the 2nd one) and the winter "offensive" that followed.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    where the frick did ukraine get 600 tanks???

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The West

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Russia

        Yes to both

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Whenever one of their tank breaks down they paint a big Z on it, and it counts both as a Russian loss and a Ukrainian gain

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Captured from Russia and Eastern Europe sending their stockpile of soviet tanks.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      plus the constant stream of various refurbished soviet models

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wasn't the UK sending 28? I know they are likely going to send 50 in total (because 50 is the ones they planned to mothball because lol no money) so that makes more sense.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >600 tanks
      this is only increase - we don't know how many tanks were lost in that time - and probably main supplier is Russia itself with Poland in second place with around 300 t72s in various versions of upgrades (most m1rs - upgraded nightvision/optics and comms only)

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Uhhh zisters, what happened there?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Vuhledar

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      bACKmut

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Zero casualties for Ukraine?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Zero casualties for Ukraine?
        rather sustainable (in the short term) casualties that can be replaced from general population as fast as they occur

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you think we keep seeing Ukrainians being grabbed off the streets

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >its not SBU arresting traitors guys i promise this time look at this new one

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >UA losses 131k
    I kinda doubt it

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >0x

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >steadily gaining tanks

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Huh... that's actually a good point.
      The graph should show big jumps in fall of last year, when Russia kindly donated Kharkiv back and included the tanks stationed there.

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