So who's ready for this to be worse in every way than the Ukie one that came out first?
Also, >Making naval kamikaze drones when your opponent's largest ship is a patrol boat
lmao.
they have 1 cruiser and 5 destroyers in their Pacific Fleet and all were made during the soviet union so their surface fleet is basically trash. they allegedly have 11 operational nuke subs though
>they allegedly have 11 operational nuke subs though
Considering the horrendous state of the Russian navy, and even their flagship, I'd imagine life on a Soviet era submarine must be a living hell.
I read recently that that not might not even be the case since a lot of their subs never leave port and might even be rotting away to the point where they're only around to keep numbers on paper
There was a report from 2005 about how they were doing 10 deterrence patrols per year according to NATO sources, which is a fucking pathetic number so it's very likely.
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2005 was when 9-11 and Iraq Invasion driving oil cost up was starting to fix Russian budget issues. 1990's were even bleaker when it comes to Russian military and its funding than early 2000's.
Anon, I don't know how to break this to you, but Japan has a larger and infinitely better trained and equipped navy than Russia. They have two F-35B carriers, dozens of diesel electric subs and their backbone air defense ships are basically JapaBurkes. They're apparently ordering two Aegis cruisers, too.
I know, which is why I can't comprehend them deciding to design and build a sub-par, budget, shore-launched torpedo that will capsize and sink as soon the seas start getting a little rough.
Surely, surely whacking an artillery piece on a fishing boat would have been a better and more effective use of their time and resources?
It would still achieve fuck and all, but there's less chance of it immediately fucking up and leaving a few 100lb IED floating around inside or just beyond your harbour.
No it's not. Too small for that and wrong hull shape.
It could at best be a repurposed MOB boat with a new superstructure, as those would typically have an open deck.
Or it's a new specialised design altogether. Its not that hard to mold plastic boats.
Oh shit you're right. I did a reverse image search and it's actually a naval drone. What the fuck are the Russians smoking lol? You can't hit anything useful in harbors except for civilian freighters so that'd be fun.
Likely commercial speed boat that has had its sides cut even lower because it doesn't need to have meat bags inside it.
why would you make a weapon that's supposed to be inconHispanicuous bright orange?
High visibility paintjobs for testing articles are pretty normal thing. Easier to recover if something goes wrong.
Oh shit you're right. I did a reverse image search and it's actually a naval drone. What the fuck are the Russians smoking lol? You can't hit anything useful in harbors except for civilian freighters so that'd be fun.
I'm pretty sure Ukrainians have hit Russian warships in Sevastopol and Novorossiysk with their drones. Some have been pretty heavily damaged.
Russians might see unmanned drone boats as something worth researching due to their experience with being in receiving end of said drone boats. At least for opfor training, if not especially for opfor training and tactical research. Boat like that might cost around 20k, modifications to boat itself another 20k, electronics 50k and it still is a bargain when compared to missiles and torpedoes. Not to mention some deniability in who did it.
Modern drones are quite bit cheaper and in theory lower performance than "traditional" missiles or torpedoes. Naval kamikaze drone is closer relative to spar torpedoes of mid 1800's than modern anti-submarine torpedo.
Where's the detonator? This is just a fiberglass hull with a surveillance camera stuck on top, isn't it?
You can do plenty of testing without blowing it up. Ukrainian kamikaze drones have impact fuses at bow.
You laugh but the Germans had something similar in WW2.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neger
>A simple lever in the cockpit irreversibly started the torpedo and released it. Though not designed as a suicide weapon, the Neger would frequently become one when the torpedo started running but failed to release, and carried the craft and its pilot toward the target.
>The enemy has a small navy so they are using kamikaze boats in asymmetric saturation attacks against our very large navy >I know, we'll copy them since it seems to work so well for them! >Pidor, you are genius!
What are the retards going to do with it. Ukraine does not have a Navy.
Russians always act like children. Someone has 10, so Russia must have 12.
Not hard to win an arms race with these retards. Just claim to have 20,000 of something, then the vodka retards will want to make 22,000.
No doubt, this thing will be in the next victory day parade. Vatnicks have an inferiority complex.
Russians are ultimate NPCs
>monke see, monke do
holy shit they literally just put a surveillance camera that you see at most corporate buildings and called it good
>Shoigu
but Ukraine doesn't really have a navy so what the fuck will they target with this thing?
Ukraine's bridges and dams.
yes bridge they need to cross over, so they can cut themselves off from their own lines. Checkmate ukies!
doesnt Russia claim to have rockets and missiles that can reach all Ukraine?
expensive ones, partially depleted in the beginning of the war's "shock and awe" attacks
Yeah i was wondering the same thing. It's not like they need these to hit grain ships.
Thus a new asbestnik is born..
>hit grain ship
>blame ukraine
NATO ships
Their own ships.
Civilian grain ships
>MFW Russia kamikazes a Polish grain ship
>Or one of their own ships hired to transport the grain
>but Ukraine doesn't really have a navy so what the fuck will they target with this thing?
Russia can't hit military targets and Ukraine has no navy so I can only assume they're going to be hitting civilian cargo vessels
Swimmers and beach goers.
So who's ready for this to be worse in every way than the Ukie one that came out first?
Also,
>Making naval kamikaze drones when your opponent's largest ship is a patrol boat
lmao.
In reality there’s a conscript welded inside right to pilot before they’re launched
Manned rockets for countries on a budget
A very small budget
>Russoids reinvent the Shinyo Suicide Motorboat
I cannot fucking wait.
>Powered by a forsaken mobik
There's a guy inside it, isn't there...
He is man no longer. An amalgamation of flesh and rigorous maritime engineering standards.
Praise the Omnissiah?
>Rigorous maritime engineering
>Russia at any point in history
Pick ONE (1).
Borodino-class pre-dreadnaughts, maybe. Slava fared comparatively well.
Are they all bright orange or is that the stealth camo?
probably trying to fool targets into thinking it's a life raft
>building kamikaze naval drones when your opponent basically has no navy
peak cargo cult holy fuck do russians even think about what their doing?????
>your opponent
Anon, it's in Vladivostok.
russia has like 50 operational planes in the far east and a handful of troops
They are preparing for the liberation of Haishenwai.
Tsushima 2.0, kek
Haishenwai is the Chinese name for Vladivostok, anon. Russia isn't going to be sailing around the world to get rekt. Neither is China.
How little faith must they have in their pacific fleet if they have decided to deploy fucking low-draft canoes in the open sea?
they have 1 cruiser and 5 destroyers in their Pacific Fleet and all were made during the soviet union so their surface fleet is basically trash. they allegedly have 11 operational nuke subs though
>they allegedly have 11 operational nuke subs though
Considering the horrendous state of the Russian navy, and even their flagship, I'd imagine life on a Soviet era submarine must be a living hell.
Honestly t's the only part of their entire armed forces with the least corruption and best training, sans Kursk
I read recently that that not might not even be the case since a lot of their subs never leave port and might even be rotting away to the point where they're only around to keep numbers on paper
There was a report from 2005 about how they were doing 10 deterrence patrols per year according to NATO sources, which is a fucking pathetic number so it's very likely.
2005 was when 9-11 and Iraq Invasion driving oil cost up was starting to fix Russian budget issues. 1990's were even bleaker when it comes to Russian military and its funding than early 2000's.
Anon, I don't know how to break this to you, but Japan has a larger and infinitely better trained and equipped navy than Russia. They have two F-35B carriers, dozens of diesel electric subs and their backbone air defense ships are basically JapaBurkes. They're apparently ordering two Aegis cruisers, too.
I know, which is why I can't comprehend them deciding to design and build a sub-par, budget, shore-launched torpedo that will capsize and sink as soon the seas start getting a little rough.
Surely, surely whacking an artillery piece on a fishing boat would have been a better and more effective use of their time and resources?
It would still achieve fuck and all, but there's less chance of it immediately fucking up and leaving a few 100lb IED floating around inside or just beyond your harbour.
>They have two F-35B carriers
HELICOPTER CARRYING DESTROYERS.
Do you happen to know the history of Russian Pacific fleet?
>what is Green Ukraine
POV: Your mom just got a new Lada
Such a simple, kino game
BLOOD, OCEAN!
Against a country with no navy, should be very effective
is this so they can say it was a Russian drone that blew up their bridge and not a Ukrainian attack?
>The Germans had drone ships in WW1
Every generation reinvents the wheel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FL-boat
>wire guidance is satellite guidance
Lmao. But before everybody goes crazy with this this is an emergency exit life raft you find on boats and offshore oil platforms.
No it's not. Too small for that and wrong hull shape.
It could at best be a repurposed MOB boat with a new superstructure, as those would typically have an open deck.
Or it's a new specialised design altogether. Its not that hard to mold plastic boats.
Oh shit you're right. I did a reverse image search and it's actually a naval drone. What the fuck are the Russians smoking lol? You can't hit anything useful in harbors except for civilian freighters so that'd be fun.
Likely commercial speed boat that has had its sides cut even lower because it doesn't need to have meat bags inside it.
High visibility paintjobs for testing articles are pretty normal thing. Easier to recover if something goes wrong.
I'm pretty sure Ukrainians have hit Russian warships in Sevastopol and Novorossiysk with their drones. Some have been pretty heavily damaged.
I was talking about the russians. The Ukrainians don't have any naval assets worth hitting.
Russians might see unmanned drone boats as something worth researching due to their experience with being in receiving end of said drone boats. At least for opfor training, if not especially for opfor training and tactical research. Boat like that might cost around 20k, modifications to boat itself another 20k, electronics 50k and it still is a bargain when compared to missiles and torpedoes. Not to mention some deniability in who did it.
why would you make a weapon that's supposed to be inconHispanicuous bright orange?
Why is it orange though?
You're basically painting a giant target on your own boat doing that.
Russian suicide drones are manly and don't need to hide like the effeminate globohomo drones do
>naval kamikaze drone
oh, you mean a torpedo
i'm so sick of this "DRONES HURR DURR EVERYTHING'S A DRONE" narrative.
kamikaze drones are missiles.
naval kamikaze drones are torpedos.
they're not new.
Modern drones are quite bit cheaper and in theory lower performance than "traditional" missiles or torpedoes. Naval kamikaze drone is closer relative to spar torpedoes of mid 1800's than modern anti-submarine torpedo.
You can do plenty of testing without blowing it up. Ukrainian kamikaze drones have impact fuses at bow.
doesn't calling it a drone highlight the fact that it can loiter though, usually missiles/torpedos propel themselves straight at the target
Where's the detonator? This is just a fiberglass hull with a surveillance camera stuck on top, isn't it?
Where does the mobik sit?
You laugh but the Germans had something similar in WW2.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neger
>A simple lever in the cockpit irreversibly started the torpedo and released it. Though not designed as a suicide weapon, the Neger would frequently become one when the torpedo started running but failed to release, and carried the craft and its pilot toward the target.
Nipps just skipped the whole release the torpedo part altogether.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiten
>The enemy has a small navy so they are using kamikaze boats in asymmetric saturation attacks against our very large navy
>I know, we'll copy them since it seems to work so well for them!
>Pidor, you are genius!
>fight an enemy that uses drones against your navy
>develop your own drones
>your enemy has no navy to use them on
Why is Russia like this?
What are the retards going to do with it. Ukraine does not have a Navy.
Russians always act like children. Someone has 10, so Russia must have 12.
Not hard to win an arms race with these retards. Just claim to have 20,000 of something, then the vodka retards will want to make 22,000.
No doubt, this thing will be in the next victory day parade. Vatnicks have an inferiority complex.
cool, what are they going to use them on?
Wow cool this will help them destroy Ukraine's naval assets like uh......