Going by this guy's post it's based off of a 50's era Romeo/Type-033 attack submarine so no
https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1153611763189014528
The Korean War started in the 1950s and never technically ended. Much about North Korea makes sense when you imagine it as constantly at war or on the edge of war in the 1950s. Down to the nuclear tests and everything.
I mean people talk about North Korea nuclear attacks, but Japan actually happened and, in his words, MacArther weighed dropping "30 to 50 atomic bombs" across North Korea and China.
Can you image the terror that is the United States of America?
To Japan, the USA is a very important friend, but North Korea a nuclear terror that literally flies potential world ending nuclear missiles over their skies periodically as a matter of principle.
This is a complex situation. The missile could cause a nuclear detonation if intercepted, or not. It's not known of the missile is going to fall, Japan has already been struck by nuclear weapons before, and it would necessitate an American response.
In this way, North Korea still provokes the United States by nuclear threats over Japan.
The North Korean nuclear armory is much, much smaller than the United States or Russian nuclear arsenal, let alone the two combined.
However, even a limited nuclear strike could provoke a global thermonuclear war. By projecting power over South Korea and Japan, North Korea acts partly as a strongarm in aid to the interests of communist China.
Must be terrifying to live through in Japan, missiles flying over, potentially a nuclear strike each time.
I'm not condoning North Korea's actions (flying ICBMs over your neighbors without warning isn't exactly friendly) but to be somewhat fair they do seem to be making an effort to fly the missiles over the Tsugaru Strait rather than directly over the islands themselves. And honestly given the geographical location of North Korea, where else are you going to launch missiles/rockets? Some of their launches have been satellites and it'd be a pain in the ass/impossible trying to reach orbit on a southern inclination.
>The missile could cause a nuclear detonation if intercepted
This is HIGHLY unlikely even for first generation nukes the US and USSR built. There's a lot of things that have to go right in order to cause a nuclear detonation instead of just fracturing and scattering the core around everywhere.
It's a mobile launch platform which is difficult to destroy from the air before it launches its payload, for its task it's very good, but with only one unit it's not a huge deal.
I’m curious about why they put the VLS into the sail? There’s no way that’s as good as being in the pressure hull. Maybe they don’t care about noise and depth so much and would rather save on cost?
The missiles aren't egregiously large, but the sub is tiny, the sail all the way through the hull is the only place with enough vertical space.
It's a romeo-class derivative or rebuild. Its job is to sit on the bottom of the sea of Japan inside Nork territorial waters on a several week shift before switching out with the previous missile boat in shifts so that NK has a deterrant that isn't pre-targeted by cruise missiles and drones. It could never be quiet enough to make a difference in such close waters against US/Jap ASW technology anyway, and NK couldn't afford such a modern vessel even if they could build one.
>It could never be quiet enough to make a difference in such close waters against US/Jap ASW technology anyway,
Friendly reminder this is exactly what was said about the Yono and Sang-o classes before one of them blew the Cheonan in half during a joint US/RoK ASW excercise.
I’m curious about why they put the VLS into the sail? There’s no way that’s as good as being in the pressure hull. Maybe they don’t care about noise and depth so much and would rather save on cost?
Means you can stick larger missiles in a smaller sub. Israel does it too. Building a sub large enough to house ballistic missiles inside the actual hull means you need to have a sub with a very large beam which is going to be very expensive.
Early SSB(N)s were the same way. Primitive missiles are big, primitive submarines are small. So if you have shitty missiles and shitty subs you have no choice but to have the missiles in the sail. It's worse for hydrodynamics, survivability, depth and launching stability but its the only way they can make it happen at all.
Doubt it.Chances are the sub is going to stay in port 99% of the time and if it leaves there is a decent chance that it a has a freak accident in the middle of the pacific.
oh shit, I remember religiously scouring sat data back in like 2016 and seeing the hull rings for this thing sitting in their shipyard at Sinpo. it's undoubtedly better than their one other sub, which is a WWII-tier diesel-electric. I think they dug a new, hardened pen for this thing on an island out in the bay.
is it good or shit?
Going by this guy's post it's based off of a 50's era Romeo/Type-033 attack submarine so no
https://twitter.com/JosephHDempsey/status/1153611763189014528
The Korean War started in the 1950s and never technically ended. Much about North Korea makes sense when you imagine it as constantly at war or on the edge of war in the 1950s. Down to the nuclear tests and everything.
I mean people talk about North Korea nuclear attacks, but Japan actually happened and, in his words, MacArther weighed dropping "30 to 50 atomic bombs" across North Korea and China.
Can you image the terror that is the United States of America?
To Japan, the USA is a very important friend, but North Korea a nuclear terror that literally flies potential world ending nuclear missiles over their skies periodically as a matter of principle.
This is a complex situation. The missile could cause a nuclear detonation if intercepted, or not. It's not known of the missile is going to fall, Japan has already been struck by nuclear weapons before, and it would necessitate an American response.
In this way, North Korea still provokes the United States by nuclear threats over Japan.
>It's not known if* the missile is going to fall
Must be terrifying to live through in Japan, missiles flying over, potentially a nuclear strike each time.
The North Korean nuclear armory is much, much smaller than the United States or Russian nuclear arsenal, let alone the two combined.
However, even a limited nuclear strike could provoke a global thermonuclear war. By projecting power over South Korea and Japan, North Korea acts partly as a strongarm in aid to the interests of communist China.
Bruh, China isn't going to risk complete destruction over North Korea.
>T. MacArthur
I'm not condoning North Korea's actions (flying ICBMs over your neighbors without warning isn't exactly friendly) but to be somewhat fair they do seem to be making an effort to fly the missiles over the Tsugaru Strait rather than directly over the islands themselves. And honestly given the geographical location of North Korea, where else are you going to launch missiles/rockets? Some of their launches have been satellites and it'd be a pain in the ass/impossible trying to reach orbit on a southern inclination.
>The missile could cause a nuclear detonation if intercepted
This is HIGHLY unlikely even for first generation nukes the US and USSR built. There's a lot of things that have to go right in order to cause a nuclear detonation instead of just fracturing and scattering the core around everywhere.
surely, they don't put nuclear warheads on those missiles they test fire over japan, right? right?
It's a mobile launch platform which is difficult to destroy from the air before it launches its payload, for its task it's very good, but with only one unit it's not a huge deal.
The missiles aren't egregiously large, but the sub is tiny, the sail all the way through the hull is the only place with enough vertical space.
It's a romeo-class derivative or rebuild. Its job is to sit on the bottom of the sea of Japan inside Nork territorial waters on a several week shift before switching out with the previous missile boat in shifts so that NK has a deterrant that isn't pre-targeted by cruise missiles and drones. It could never be quiet enough to make a difference in such close waters against US/Jap ASW technology anyway, and NK couldn't afford such a modern vessel even if they could build one.
>It could never be quiet enough to make a difference in such close waters against US/Jap ASW technology anyway,
Friendly reminder this is exactly what was said about the Yono and Sang-o classes before one of them blew the Cheonan in half during a joint US/RoK ASW excercise.
QRD?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Cheonan_sinking
> the WW2 style drain holes
> 1960s style hump
bruh...
I’m curious about why they put the VLS into the sail? There’s no way that’s as good as being in the pressure hull. Maybe they don’t care about noise and depth so much and would rather save on cost?
Means you can stick larger missiles in a smaller sub. Israel does it too. Building a sub large enough to house ballistic missiles inside the actual hull means you need to have a sub with a very large beam which is going to be very expensive.
Early SSB(N)s were the same way. Primitive missiles are big, primitive submarines are small. So if you have shitty missiles and shitty subs you have no choice but to have the missiles in the sail. It's worse for hydrodynamics, survivability, depth and launching stability but its the only way they can make it happen at all.
Also they had to fire from the surface,
What's the point of this thing, can't their neighbours just continually track it?
Cargo cult
S T O P MISUSING THIS FUCKING PHRASE FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THATS GOOD AND HOLY SHUT THE FUCK UP
stfu gay
ballistic missiles? tube size doesn't look wide enough for a real SLBM
It fires cruise missiles I think
That would make sense.
It is in fact without question a ballistic missile submarine
>new
>Romeo but slightly modded
are any full-time nork watchers, or sub nerds like h i sutton, shitting bricks over the russia/dprk arms deal and the implications for subs?
Doubt it.Chances are the sub is going to stay in port 99% of the time and if it leaves there is a decent chance that it a has a freak accident in the middle of the pacific.
oh shit, I remember religiously scouring sat data back in like 2016 and seeing the hull rings for this thing sitting in their shipyard at Sinpo. it's undoubtedly better than their one other sub, which is a WWII-tier diesel-electric. I think they dug a new, hardened pen for this thing on an island out in the bay.
thats a big guided missile
>launched
That would mean launching it. It's sitting there not fucking doing anything
There are more photos in the link I posted
It was built for the 75th Anniversary of the founding of the DPRK. The article is brilliant and Kim was looking very dapper at the launch.
http://kcna.kp/en/article/q/54c10cba542ecad949930e434de8baab.kcmsf
My trustworthy fellow anon, how squinty are your eyes?
>Almost Caucasian body double
>Womans hat
wtf?
THE PROUD DEFENDERS OF JOSEON
is that best koreas take on a delta 3? I guess scavenging in kamchatka really did pay off big time