New NGAD render dropped

New NGAD render dropped

https://twitter.com/beverstine/status/1584938549010653186

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I was expecting it to be larger.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They're all just converted airliner frames.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao why did they put spikes on it? This designed by a 12 year old? Might as well put some flame decal on it as well lmao

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >doesn't know what a pitot tube is
        ngmi

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Cute

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Still just an uninformed artistic render. It'll be interesting to see how close they really are whenever we publicly see NGAD some day.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >whenever we publicly see NGAD some day
        >we
        you mean our great grandchildren.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >magic turbineless twin engine

      https://i.imgur.com/Y7E8vd2.jpg

      looks like a retrofitted DC-10 death trap

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hmmm seems too good to be real

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Just imagine teasing those subtle curves with your caressing fingertips, while she's just waiting for your "fuel" to fill her up. God I bet inserting into that jussy feels amazing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >lusting after underaged plane
        Pedo alert … MODS

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      BURN BABY BURN
      STRUNG OUT ON A WIRE
      HEART IN A CAGE
      YOU'RE SO FULL OF DESIRE

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/ff0YLIE.jpg

      BURN BABY BURN
      STRUNG OUT ON A WIRE
      HEART IN A CAGE
      YOU'RE SO FULL OF DESIRE

      new wagie cagie dropped

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    SEX

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Another day, another victory for Airbus and for France

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the MRTT conversion is made in Madrid tho.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        asi es jefe

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Be grateful that we're delegating you a minor role

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Most of the Airbus military planes are made in Spain tho, the a400m is made in Seville along with the C295 in CASAs old facilities.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      More like Boeing keeps dropping the ball. Seriously, do they have a single active program that *isn't* messed up, except for their legacy MD programs (F-15, F-18, AH-64)?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hard to believe this thing is less than a decade away. It's going to be even bigger game changer than F-22 was.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      And it will get canceled on cost grounds even faster than the F-22 was. Turns out you need a functioning manufacturing sector in order to field modern equipment. Cope, seethe, dilate.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >T. Someone whese nation has not produced more than 1000 stealth fighters

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Nope, I'm an american engineer who used to work in the aerospace industry. Shit is fucked, my dude.
          >inb4 le ebin kansas oblast forced reddit maymay xD

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Armatard used to pretend to be a US veteran who was "just concerned" too you disingenuous retard.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Nope, I'm an american engineer who used to work in the aerospace industry. Shit is fucked, my dude.

            Its way worse than you think, check out the design studies NASA did in the 60s and compare it to today, Elon Musks hotrotted conventional space rockets have nothing on projects like ROMBUS that would have launched 450 metric tons into orbit per launch.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        How many F-35s do you belive the US manufacturers a year? Don't look it up.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/ASVbmOU.png

          ok retard

          The F-35 is a cheap monkey model F-22 that shouldn't even qualify as a proper 5th gen, seeing as how it lacks supercruise.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              we're going to war with china, not russia

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                So replace those real dilapidated planes with cardboard ones.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You're right in the point you are making but you physically hurt me when you post this.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Don't remind me, anon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It has supercruise, retard. There was literally one glitch ever early on and you've been clinging to it like the desperate little monkey you are to cope with the fact that the sky is rightful US clay.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The F-35 needs to use afterburner to go supersonic, which is the very definition of NOT being supercruise. It also has problems with its afterburner, which is just the cherry on top.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                How many times do you need to get btfo on this exact thing?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                F-22 also needs afterburner to go supersonic. It just doesn't need afterburner to *stay* supersonic.

                The difference is, F-22 can get to ~Mach 1.5 and then shut off its afterburner and maintain that speed using only military thrust until it runs out of fuel. F-35 can get up to the same speed, but when it shuts off its afterburner, it slowly begins to decelerate until it falls back below the speed of sound (supposedly, about a hundred miles later).

                So, yes, F-22 is superior at the interception and air superiority roles. F-15s are better than F-16s at those roles, too.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >It has supercruise, retard

              Up to a whopping mach 1.3 and only for less than 60 seconds. Then its melting time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The F-22 is a meme plane for boomers and reformers, F-35 is better in every way that counts.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              based, supersonic flight is overrated anyway

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Seethe vatnik

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >It's a meme
              It's nice to have something that's a bit more capable in A2A to provide cover for the F-35s Getting rid of them entirely is a mistake until the day NGAD is in full serial production and there's a decent build up of airframes.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It is indeed a meme how hard this aircraft dunks on anything Russia has to offer (aka the repaint of Soviet designs)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You’re doing this in another thread you retard moron?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        ok retard

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >And it will get canceled on cost grounds even faster than the F-22 was
        Nope. F-22 wasn't even particularly expensive, that was more public perception. Adjust for inflation and flyaway cost was the same or less than the F-14 and F-15. And if you go back and look at historical articles, both of those had the exact same stuff said about them as the F-22 and F-35 lol. The F-16 was made because of concerns the F-22 was "too expensive" but a big reason the F-22 ended up costing more was precisely because they made fewer of them. Economies of scale matter even for advanced fighters.

        The REAL reason for that was simply because peer war was entirely off the US radar at that point. It was the End Of History, and the new enemies were global terrorists and small scale shit like that. Russia was assumed to be rational and no longer a geopolitical threat even if hopes about them modernizing and become a civilized country were fading, China had yet to have Xi appear on the scene and start to head back down the Mao path, didn't need a high performance ASF vs the middle east.

        NGAD though is coming in response to "oh shit, peer power war is back on the table". It's not going anywhere.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          F-22 is a failure because it's only good for AA. F-35 may be minimally worse at pure AA but it's simply better to have multiroles capable of any mission.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The F-14 and F-15 were "only good for AA" to the same degree too (technically F-22 could be equipped with SDBs or the like if we really had felt like it). But they were built vs a very genuine threatening near-peer opponent. F-14 was considered a boondoggle for a long time precisely because the war it was built to fight never came (just as everyone hoped it wouldn't). Unironically Top Gun totally changed the public's perception of it. F-15 did see combat though so looks a lot better, but still not what it was designed to do. It's always hard to try to guess at "deterrent value" since by definition deterrents are meant to deter and hopefully never have to prove themselves, yet still have to work if they are needed. But at least for those aircraft the potential need was very concrete.

            F-22 just didn't have that mission, so was much harder to justify. No peer opponent where serious air superiority might be useful. Unless you consider the F-14 a "failure" too though (and you'd have more arguments for that) eh, and I wouldn't agree either way.

            NGAD has a rising China with a building powerful air force and navy as the context. Back to the hotter parts of the Cold War.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              F-15 is easy to convert for ground attack missions. F-22 is not because of missile bay. F-14 was canned the moment other navy planes got decent at air combat.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >retard anon won't take the hint
                Oh well

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                F 22 can into external mounted weapons retardo

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They literally never fly with them retard. It makes the entire stealth thing pointless.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                There are stealth weapon pods that can be attached to it wings, retard.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                In testing. Also they are for missiles not bombs. Holy fuck stop talking about things you know shit about. F-22 is trash at ground strikes.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They would have done it more frequently if they actually built the fleet out to 1,000 planes. Either way, your original point was deboonked.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                These pods look insanly draggy. This has to be from a game.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                enclosed weapons pods are a real thing but that is from ace combat, drag isn't that big of a concern at all though.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That pic is from a videogame but it actually exists in real life.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >CFT on a Super Bug
                How fat do they plane on making this thing?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >They literally never fly with them retard. It makes the entire stealth thing pointless.

                Same applies to F-35. And the F-22 bay can fit 8 amramm or SDB, the F-35 only 4.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                F-35 now fit 6 AMRAAMs. Their bays also allow larger bombs. And F-35 has ground attack software and sensors while F-22 would need pods if you want any kind of precision strike.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >F-14 was considered a boondoggle for a long time precisely because the war it was built to fight never came (just as everyone hoped it wouldn't)

              Iranian F-14s curbstomped Iraqi Migs and Mirages so the F-14 did see war, just not in American hands.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >NGAD has a rising China with a building powerful air force and navy as the context. Back to the hotter parts of the Cold War.
              Dumb question, but is it expected that there will be a hot war against China or its allies? I know the cold war is over but isn't the possibility of escalation to nuclear exchange still a threat? Asking this genuinely. I guess for proxy wars or the like it would be useful?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ukraine has proven that in near peer conflict on territory at the outside intersection of two spheres of influence (desired by both, needed by neither) can progress at a pace where nuclear weapons are always an unjustifiably disproportionate escalation.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But doesn't Ukraine's lack of membership in NATO or the EU kind of provide the wiggle room needed in that situation? I can't think of many countries that fit the bill of
                >are a peer or near peer to the US military
                >aren't nuclear-armed
                Such that a new generation of fighter jet would be necessary to deal with them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        We aren’t Russia. We can make planes that don’t use wood screws and build them consistently.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's going to be even bigger game changer than F-22 was.
      I don't think it'll change that much actually, I don't think there's anyone that's currently on par with the US aircraft, there's China but they're not there yet and we'll have to see if they ever will, and stuff like Tempest is made for allied countries, so it's not a threat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Hard to believe this thing is less than a decade away. It's going to be even bigger game changer than F-22 was.

      The F-22 is on its way out because a readyness rate of less than 50% approaching 40%. The replacement is the F-15 silent eagle. I dont think anything will come out of this project, it will fizzle and implode like so many other ambitious american R&D projects before.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Silent Eagle is a meme. Boeing never did any proper RCS testing on it and the one example built was little more than a flying mock up.

        NGAD will supplement then supplant the F22. A few F15 Eagle IIs are being built as missile trucks for F35 and to replace the aging F15Cs still in USAF inventories.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      For a second there I thought you were talking about the KC-Y and I was completely baffled how a tanker plane could be so important.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Airbus chads can't stop winning

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A-35

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      are those GBU-12s? fitting last 2 digits aswell.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    is this guy a chink shill?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      He's a (you) addict and yall keep enabling him

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    when will we got cool looking stealth tankers?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A gen after we get stealth AWACS (which I think is gonna be 6-6.5)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        F-35 is already at the we have AWACS at home point, so I don't think it's all that far off.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_MQ-25_Stingray

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nice. More worthless toys. More money wasted.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure it will be awesome but it looks like ass. After making fun of euros for their dorritos for so long I don't know if I can handle a tailess burger flavored dorrito.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't it weird how how none of the statist MIC shills are even American?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Isn't it weird how how none of the statist MIC shills are even American?

      It seems that such work has been outsourced to low paid britbongers. Oh, how the mighty have fallen, from the empire where the sun never sets to New Pajeetistan on the Atlantic.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Xi sisters….
    Putin bros….
    This is f-fine….right???

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >The virgin tailed aircraft
    >The chad tailless delta aircraft

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How does it work? They order a custom A330 MRTT and add the fancy gadgets in the US?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      idk, but it's probably license-built by Lockheed Martin in the US with some extra modifications
      it's similar for the reverse, the Chinooks Germany ordered will be license-produced by Airbus for Boeing (or Airbus will do maintenance, not sure, in any case there's a deal between the two companies)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      idk, but it's probably license-built by Lockheed Martin in the US with some extra modifications
      it's similar for the reverse, the Chinooks Germany ordered will be license-produced by Airbus for Boeing (or Airbus will do maintenance, not sure, in any case there's a deal between the two companies)

      now that I think about it again, I doubt it's gonna be license produced, doing whole new manufacturing lines would probably be far too expensive
      I guess they'll just order special versions and the respective native company will cover maintenance in the future

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        There already is a large Airbus manufacturing line in Mobile, Alabama.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          [...]
          now that I think about it again, I doubt it's gonna be license produced, doing whole new manufacturing lines would probably be far too expensive
          I guess they'll just order special versions and the respective native company will cover maintenance in the future

          MRTT for Euro customers are made by taking a basic bitch a330 airframe, flying it to an Airbus Military hangar in Getafe and modifying it there.

          They'll just send a bare civilian airframe to LM and they'll add all the military hardware

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Doomdorito.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      include me in the screenshot

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    f35 the reddit plane

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Lockheed's been reduced to slapping their logo on Airbus fuselages
    TAKE ME BACK
    I WANT TO GO BACK

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Lockheed doesn't build tankers
      Be glad they aren't choosing Boeing crap

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Lockheed used to build passenger jets though, which they could've used to base their own tanker design off of in this competition.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not really the type who seethes over European-American foreign relations on this board, but the KC-45 / KC-46 drama still makes me mad

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's weird seeing what appears to be a common air liner servicing a UFO. You might expect even tankers to look more futurey by now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >It's weird seeing what appears to be a common air liner servicing a UFO. You might expect even tankers to look more futurey by now.
      Tankers and airliners face largely the same design requirements: Good amount of space and weight capacity, beyond that as efficient as possible to maintain and fly. And the reason modern airliners all look more or less the same is that that's the optimal configuration for doing that. You get exotic-looking planes when there's some requirement that means a plain-jane design won't do. Needs to be stealthy, needs to do mach 3, etc.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It would be cool to see a flying wing tanker, but I assume the R&D investment does not make any sense.

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