NEW FRAME RULE VACATED

>meme reference
>food analogy
the ATF has been absolutely, permanently, and eternally BTFO. 80% lowers are back on the menu
read the full ruling it has some fucking great shit in there: https://assets.nationbuilder.com/firearmspolicycoalition/pages/6573/attachments/original/1699567052/VanDerStok_v_Garland_208_Opinion.pdf?1699567052

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    posting p80s

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ok

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Did this guy write his opinion before the lunch break?

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >saving guns with a hamburger analogy
    this is the most american thing that has ever happened

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >dyi bros stay winning

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      THANGS FOR FREEING ME :DDD

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the silliest timeline

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ukraine
        >not in awe of US logistics
        the only clown here is you, sir

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe he hasn’t had new Burger King.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Life, liberdy and the bursuid of burger :DD

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Guns and burgers, a long and honored history. Merica!

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >American legal battle over gun rights
    >Winning argument will be a food analogy
    There is a god and he shares my sense of humor.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >be bakery
    >need FFL to bake cake for veteran celebrating his birthday

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this rule was so retarded it was more like
      >be bakery
      >need FFL regardless of what i'm going to bake because it's theoretically possible that i could bake something into a gun

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >make fingers into gun-shaped gesture
        What happens?
        >all the atoms around me can be made into a gun one day
        What happens?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          oi m8, you got a loisence for the iron in your blood?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >i could bake something into a gun

        This cartoon made me hungry as a child

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I bet you could use hard tack for certain structural elements. Could definitely make a stock out of it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >edible glock frames
          Someone should actually try this out, just to piss of the atf

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Edible is an ambitious word to describe hard tack.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Very tempted to bake an ar lower right now

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I'm now wondering how much of an AR could be made of wood and last at least 1000 rounds.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I bet it's a surprising amount. But you absolutely have to use good wood for the job, carved from one solid piece with no knots. No pressed reconstituted shit.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              pretty fair bit of it, pretty much all the lower receiver. There is some stupidly hard woods out there.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, this is exactly what I postulated would happen when this whole kerfuffle started. The ATF had quite literally turned any solid object into a potential gun. People were joking that any ingot of metal would be regulated as a frame or receiver, and anybody who actually read the rules as stated could see it quite literally meant that.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just read most of the ruling, holy based that was a fun read. who knew there are still sane judges left in this country?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At this rate ATF may declare judges are insane and they are gonna follow letter of the law not rumbling of the madman.
      Common Sense Ruling.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they will declare judges as a potential frame/receiver under their rule.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "I know when I see it"
        "Not my problem"/

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol my god

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They should make an aluminum p80 80%

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't see how that would work tbh.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There's already aluminum glock frames

        Why would an 80 percent version not work

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          massively expensive to the point you may as well get one of the expensive Matrix guns

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's no different than making an aluminum AR 80%
            If there is a price increase it wouldn't be prohibitive.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I think he's talking about the tooling and machining it would require to make the 80%. It would be possible, there are aluminum frames available, but they cost a ton and the demand probably isn't there.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                They could be cast then finished far cheaper than cnc start to finish.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which still needs to be sold for six or seven hundred dollars to make a profit based on current options. If you could to it cheaper there might be a business opportunity in there for you. Still probably too much risk to get started until the supreme court declares them legal once and for all.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Similarly completely finished pistol frames are 100-200 dollars.
                You are not basing your claim In reality.
                A cnc total frame would be very expensive.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Where can you get an aluminum g19 clone for that or are you referring to completely different guns?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A g19 clone wouldn't be unfinished now would it you opposite disorder having weeb?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You seem to misunderstand the cost of producing things, but if you come up with a cool looking 80% that takes glock parts for around $80 I'll buy it. Otherwise I'll just stick to $50 plastic ones.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You are using the sales price of a finely finished cnc aluminum glock clone as a reference. The time and machinery involved alone makes them low production high cost ventures.
                I am using the cost of multiple skelotonized type frames cast from aluminum then partially finished to 80%.
                The fuck mental disorder do you have anon?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                To be clearer would do a cast version that is skeletonized like a 1911 cast frame is. You would then be able to sell grips and modular parts. The only thing that needs to stay true to glock is the pin, trigger, rail and magwell specs. The frame itself being made of stronger aluminum could designed much differently than the p80 style polymer frames.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Great, but my P80 appetite has been sated after building 4 of them. It was fun to skip the paperwork for them, but they're just kinda meh after a while
    The community around them is less excited about the art of the gun and more felons or underage retards getting the cheapest parts to build a barely functioning gun.
    Maybe I'll move onto 1911s, but it looks like a crazy difficulty curve

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      my ak building autism will never be satiated

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dobsonsisters have been vindicated.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    basado

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wait you're telling me i can get a burger cake?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know about cake but savory pies have been a thing in England for centuries.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The judge should used truck logic. "one is a truck and the other is a 100,000 dollar sedan that's used for larping as blue collar workers or as a emotional support vehicle.."

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't afford the glorified sedan trucks that never see work. Have an old 1 ton Chevy 3500 with 200k miles on it and still does its job.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I wish they produced trucks like this instead of the 100,000 dollar sedans.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Mexicans would buy them and just drive them on the ground.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If the chicken tax was repealed then those Japanese mini trucks would be very popular with high school students.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >"Look at your average pickup truck. With airbags and vanity mirrors, it's one focus group away from turning into a powder room."

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    STRIKE 80 ALL WHITE FRAME SALE WHEN?
    >STRIKE 80 ALL WHITE FRAME SALE WHEN?
    STRIKE 80 ALL WHITE FRAME SALE WHEN?
    >STRIKE 80 ALL WHITE FRAME SALE WHEN?
    STRIKE 80 ALL WHITE FRAME SALE WHEN?
    >STRIKE 80 ALL WHITE FRAME SALE WHEN?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what does this mean for form 1 suppressors? oh wait it means nothing because all of the solvent trap guys folded and got an ffl and sot or got shafted by the feds by being retards.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >80% lowers are back on the menu
    Where they weren't banned by name.
    t. Washington anon, where 80% is explicitly banned

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Washington state is a cesspool and everyone who lives there deserves each other.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Just buy a 79% lower then.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hurrrr what about my ban state?
      you're irrelevant

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Washington
      >Weekend trip to idaho
      There you go

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and guess what niggas? MY STAMP WAS FREE

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    big mac legal scholars... big mac legal analogy... big mac legal ruling...

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