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"Terrible Recon Mission in Ukraine"
The entire team is American, and do not speak Ukrainian. They are on a recon mission, and due to bad intel, things dont go well. As most missions, not a lot of action, lots of walking, talking to civilians.
At one point they walk past some vatniks a 3rd of a mile away and just keep walking in plain sight.

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Those two dudes in black uniform where russians? I really hope not lol

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >The entire team is American, and do not speak Ukrainian.
    well, that explains a lot.

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What does the hand signal at 3:30 indicate? Is that for column or contact right?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I guess it's one guy on the left side of the road, one on the right and so on.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I guess it's one guy on the left side of the road, one on the right and so on.

      It’s the hand signal for staggered columns. It’s a road march formation for when there’s a low expectation of enemy contact.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What would be the formation for high expectation?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Squad column, fireteam wedge. Haven’t watched the whole video so idk how many people there are on the recon team, or if they’re just wandering through city streets, but they would probably just be in a wedge. If they seriously expect some sort of enemy contact then they would be moving in bounding overwatch.

          That’s the textbook answer for normal soldiering, but obviously it depends a lot on whatever mission they’re trying to do. A recon element wouldn’t be looking for a fight, so speed might be a better form of security for them

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    > have unit of American volunteers
    > tell them to recon town occupied by Russians with 0 civilians
    > there are absolutely civilians
    Oh yeah, absolutely great idea to have some foreign fighters accidentally zap a Ukranian farmer.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      go back to your vodka, vatnik. If you actually watched the video you'd see they talk to the civilian and he shows them a map

      https://i.imgur.com/EMZgCBE.jpg

      >recon mission
      >no bino’s, spotting scope, optics of any kind
      This is Russia tier

      this was in the very beginning of the war. Ukraine's military back then basically was russia tier

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >If you actually watched the video you'd see they talk to the civilian and he shows them a map
        Reading comprehension, try it. And watch the rest of the video while you're at it, especially the part where intel told them the village was uninhabited by civilians.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >very beginning, russia tier
        so it was 2014?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      americans are moronic and think bombing random villages full of people who don't speak english means Enduring Freedom

      you could drop them into the middle of a welsh farmland and, after raping all the sheep, would delight in bombing the hamlets and deriding the residents as "goat frickers" for having a funny accent

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        did an American frick your wife(sheep)?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Please.

        It's WHILE raping all the sheep.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >you could drop them into the middle of a welsh farmland and, after raping all the sheep,
        that would be partaking of the local culture which is classically seen as a part of hearts and minds.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        #1 military in the world. Cope harder.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Americans are just Gucci vatnigs

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          stay poor

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >recon mission
    >no bino’s, spotting scope, optics of any kind
    This is Russia tier

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >we've been spotted
      >lets take a knee in the open field looking at their observers while considering what to do

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You’d be surprised at how moronic humans are
        >be ROTC cadet during training
        >doing leaders recon for a recon mission
        >I have to find the general location of the enemy position and send people to recon it
        >we accidentally overshoot our distance
        >I look up and see a fortified enemy position and a dude that is staring out in my general direction
        >he’s maybe 50-100m away
        >I give the signal to freeze
        >we freeze for a few seconds and very slowly lower to the ground
        >we crawl prone back into cover
        >the guy never saw us despite knowing that we would be coming and us wandering out into the open

        Basically humans are like T-Rex’s. Things really only stand out to us if they are moving, and even then they only stand out if they’re moving horizontally in relation to us. Camouflage is pretty effective

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          superior HATO camouflage

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They have a pair. In a pack. Somewhere.

      Reminds me I need to pony up for a nice small pair that isn't frick huge.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Bro I skipped to a random spot half way through.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I notice he didn't say concealment but cover instead.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They sent them out towards the enemy hoping to spark a firefight to kill some enemies or maybe get them killed because they don't like these douchey Americans. Recon mission? Seriously? What are they going to report that the Russians are everywhere? They already know there's a fricking Russian invasion and that they're coming from that general direction. They got sent out to kill and die.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The smart move would be to hunker down and dig into the territories you still hold. Prepare ambush points, tactics, battle plans, and let the enemy come and wear themselves out. But Ukrainians are led by a group of madmen who truly believe they're on the offense against Russia, or they don't care and they're just trying to keep the war hot by sending men out to get killed, and why not do so when yiu have volunteers you dont give a singke shit about? With all of the politics surrounding this war it seems to be more of a massive embezzlement scheme on part of the West than having anything to do with wanting to help the poor Ukrainians.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          they need to reclaim their territory if we want to continue receiving support from the west. If the war gets bogged down the west will lose interest and withdraw their support.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          That’s what they did. Kiev was turned into a fortress, blew/mined all the bridges, handed random people rifles, every vodka bottle turned into molotovs. But then the Russians almost all at once ran out of fuel. It threw everything off, all plans out the window. If you were an ex Soviet commander and got hundreds of thousands of men high on nationalistic pride to attack the invaders which are clearly stumbling you wouldn’t say no.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        They were supposed to go to the "unoccupied" village and observe the russian trenches

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    lmao what a shitshow, their recon mission consists of walking through open fields, finding a civilian by yelling "Americanski" at a building containing a barking dog, and asking the civilian for a map. A recon team asking a civilian for a fricking map! Then they assault an empty trench and find clues that it's suspiciously Ukrainian. They then go back and find about another recon team getting into a firefight with fellow Ukrainians because nobody bothered telling them where everybody is. But as the end of the video says, the Russians must be even bigger clowns.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Dumbass the cameraman literally talks about how he's got an ipad with the google earth map of the area.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I shudder to think how bad Russian forces must be in comparison. Barely any training, barely any gear.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        What's wrong with google earth? You don't like maps?

        Where in the holy frick is their proper coverage of and movement through a linear danger area.

        They totally fricking failed to set up far side security past the LDA.

        What are these cool terms you are using? Were you a POG? Do you expect anyone to know what LDA means?

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Got no problem with google maps.

          lmao what a shitshow, their recon mission consists of walking through open fields, finding a civilian by yelling "Americanski" at a building containing a barking dog, and asking the civilian for a map. A recon team asking a civilian for a fricking map! Then they assault an empty trench and find clues that it's suspiciously Ukrainian. They then go back and find about another recon team getting into a firefight with fellow Ukrainians because nobody bothered telling them where everybody is. But as the end of the video says, the Russians must be even bigger clowns.

          claims that they didn't have a map and had to ask a random guy for one.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I thought maybe you were a secret squirrel like the LDA guy using abbreviations above. Maybe you knew the required equipment to detect and triangulate their signal and were smug about them so obviously being sitting ducks giving their position away. Heh, ipad commandos.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >and had to ask a random guy for one
            They absolutely did though, not sure what your problem is. See

            https://i.imgur.com/Zfu0doQ.jpg

            Cool story bro, but that ipad map is worthless and they know it because because "when downloaded offline you can't zoom in" (12:53). You can hear and see the team leader asking for a map at 10:45, and then later you see him looking at the map with the civilian. Nothing stops them from printing out a map on paper beforehand and giving it to them, yet they didn't even get that simple task done.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I can’t tell if you’re joking or not.

          It means linear danger area I.E. a road, trail, or any linear open area. He’s saying they didn’t properly set up security on both sides of the road to pass it

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Literally a fricking road, this one esp. so because its on a higher elevation than before or past it.

          You post security looking both ways up the road before anyone crosses, pref with an MG facing the most likely avenue of enemy approach/fires.

          The first 2 to cross post up on the other side at the most opportune cover and concealment covering down and up the LDA

          3rd and 4th man push in ensuring the direction of unit movement past the LDA is clear and also laying the first stages of the appropriate formation.

          The rest of the unit crosses. The initial security element picks up last and peels in across the road, then the first guys to actually cross - the second and now final security element, pick up and reform into the unit formation and they diddy mao the frick out of there.

          TLDR crossing roads is fricking dangerous

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >3rd and 4th man push in ensuring the direction of unit movement past the LDA is clear and also laying the first stages of the appropriate formation.
            There are other ways to cross LDAs when you have few people.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Hasty's; by team and others but the situation didnt necessarily call for it, it called for methodical and it called for greater spacing inna open

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Cool story bro, but that ipad map is worthless and they know it because because "when downloaded offline you can't zoom in" (12:53). You can hear and see the team leader asking for a map at 10:45, and then later you see him looking at the map with the civilian. Nothing stops them from printing out a map on paper beforehand and giving it to them, yet they didn't even get that simple task done.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >printing random things off in a warzone with an ipad
          lol gotta love these einstein tier /k/ operators who would win the war singlehandedly if only they were over in ukraine

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That is the job of someone at HQ, who presumably has a printer and PC available. Which should be quite clear from the post, but I guess you're just a salty Ukrainian or something.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >iPad map is worthless
          >no one has fricking osmand
          >not even a single Garmin between them
          what in the actual frick is Ukraine?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Garmins are vulnerable to spoofing. I know, I know “lmao Russian electronic warfare” capabilities”, but still

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/REQFxTE.gif

              >iPad map is worthless
              >no one has fricking osmand
              >not even a single Garmin between them
              what in the actual frick is Ukraine?

              yeah buddy your commerical smart watch is going to be the lynchpin of allied command against a world power that has sophisticated EW

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >sophisticated EW
                >an iPad in airplane mode magically gets around all of that
                RUSSIANS HATE HIM. LEARN THIS ONE SIMPLE TRICK

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >world power

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              I used to be one of the guys that posted the
              >b-b-but Russian ELINT!
              but the reality now is that they either sold it all, and raped the people who could use it, or just never deployed it. the iPad thing alone should have been enough to earn their death blossom. and if it isn't, then it's gotta be a free for all.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                I know that I'll just get labeled as a vatnik for even thinking of defending them but the idea that they didn't use their EW systems is fricking moronic. You morons act as if the little window you get into the war through telegram or twitter is the entire picture.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                nope, I get what you mean. I hammered on pic related and the Marine corps studies on Georgia multiple times. it absolutely used to be the one thing Russia was on top of. I'm not sure if it's down to the nature of the conflict being different, terrain, or what. but I genuinely don't believe we've seen as much usage of it here. granted hunter/killer set ups like what led to success in the valleys of Georgia makes less sense here, at least from what I've seen of the overall conflict, so maybe they are using it and just can't get out of that mindset. fighting the last war, as it were.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >their recon mission consists of walking through open fields
      There's nothing but open fields there. If you need recon done, and all you have is Infantry someone's gonna be walking through that open field waiting to take fire. That's Infantry. Advance to contact is what Infanteers do all the time. There's a reason why Infantry is the worst job in the military.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Rvd4WeP.jpg

      New "firefight" kino just dropped.

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      "Terrible Recon Mission in Ukraine"
      The entire team is American, and do not speak Ukrainian. They are on a recon mission, and due to bad intel, things dont go well. As most missions, not a lot of action, lots of walking, talking to civilians.
      At one point they walk past some vatniks a 3rd of a mile away and just keep walking in plain sight.

      this is insanely fricked and cringe, these are literal neckbeard wannabe operators basically thinking life is like a videogame. un fricking real. i wont even begin to dissect this. sad if this is remotely common in ukraine right now. if they get caught they are not even close to ready to what the frick is going to happen to them.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You are watching the product of american military training

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If you have to reconnoiter a place that's surrounded on all sides by open fields, what else are they supposed to do? Tunnel?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Get down low, fricking go at night even. They had 0 spacing even a fricking mobik could've spotted them. I'm surprised theyre still alive

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Let's put it this way. The only reason they weren't spotted and destroyed is because there was almost no opposing force in the area.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Reminds me of Dynamic Recon Ops from Arma 3. Much fun

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Was just about to post this. Reminds me of some of the DRO missions I did in Chernarus.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure FAST helmets are more comfortable and lighter, but they still look insufficiently protective to my taste.

    Neat video tho OP, thanks for sharing.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They're lucky the Russian incompetence is so high, it's off the scale, lol.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Where in the holy frick is their proper coverage of and movement through a linear danger area.

    They totally fricking failed to set up far side security past the LDA.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Spacing is waaay too close out in the open, should be looking at at least a 50-75m spread in literal open steppes, spacing in town was okay though

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Fricking love all the larpers in this thread armchair quarterbacking everything in the video.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Reality is they are carrying too much shit and getting real fricking sloppy.

      But the russians are a shit sandwich so its okay

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Reality is they are carrying too much shit
        you just described pretty much all modern "light" infantry. They carry way too much shit. Ask any 11B

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        US Marines would clap mercenary cheeks.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A lot of /k/ actually served, so yeah you're pretty off the mark there bro.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >A lot of /k/ actually served

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          It’s not any crazy sekret squirrel operating or anything, it’s just basic shit like tactical spacing, situational awareness, and security.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah..

            I'd at least have some binos heh
            Why are americans in ukraine and even have a rolled up ukra flag on their pack haha I thought we were the larpers
            That is so moronic

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            90% of any western armed force has never fired a shot in anger and you're delusional if you think a significant portion of /k/ has served in the army specifically, let alone the armed forces at all

            https://i.imgur.com/Zfu0doQ.jpg

            Cool story bro, but that ipad map is worthless and they know it because because "when downloaded offline you can't zoom in" (12:53). You can hear and see the team leader asking for a map at 10:45, and then later you see him looking at the map with the civilian. Nothing stops them from printing out a map on paper beforehand and giving it to them, yet they didn't even get that simple task done.

            >printing a map
            said like someone who has never even owned a home printer, let alone handled a large paper map

            >wHeN dOwNlOaDeD u CaNt zOoM iN
            you're a zoomer who is literally incapable of using a computer too lmao. have you considered that you don't need an "app" to zoom in on an image? have you considered that there is more to life than google's ecosystem? the absolute fricking state of americans

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Your arguments make no sense and you are bullshitting hard. An A4 piece of paper can cover tens of miles in good detail, and the reason why they had to ask the civilian for the map is given in the video, while they're looking at that paper map even. Just how asshurt are you to do this?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >An A4 piece of paper can cover tens of miles in good detail,
                have you ever owned a normal-ass laserjet

                >they had to ask the civilian for the map
                imagine launching a "mission" without maps in the first place. the absolute fricking state. I don't go on a bar crawl in europe on vacation without a good map first; these frickwits leave their suburban home expecting Alexa to watch over them? lmao

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >have you ever owned a normal-ass laserjet
                Yes, I regularly print out maps on paper for traveling on my motorbike, I'm a fricking cringelord who doesn't own a smartphone or a GPS.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >m-muh motor byke i-im so coo--
                yeah whatever homosexual

                still doesn't excuse that these niglets couldn't have gone to Kinkos and printed a few proper chartlets, maybe even gotten them laminated, instead of depending on Siri to call up cached images of Bing Maps

                they have the maps downloaded but in offline mode they cant zoom in.

                are the cell phone towers working or are they not using it for security purposes?

                they are literally too stupid to download high quality vector images of maps

                >their recon mission consists of walking through open fields
                There's nothing but open fields there. If you need recon done, and all you have is Infantry someone's gonna be walking through that open field waiting to take fire. That's Infantry. Advance to contact is what Infanteers do all the time. There's a reason why Infantry is the worst job in the military.

                they're not infantry, they're tourists

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >An A4 piece of paper can cover tens of miles in good detail,
                have you ever owned a normal-ass laserjet

                >they had to ask the civilian for the map
                imagine launching a "mission" without maps in the first place. the absolute fricking state. I don't go on a bar crawl in europe on vacation without a good map first; these frickwits leave their suburban home expecting Alexa to watch over them? lmao

                americans are moronic and think bombing random villages full of people who don't speak english means Enduring Freedom

                you could drop them into the middle of a welsh farmland and, after raping all the sheep, would delight in bombing the hamlets and deriding the residents as "goat frickers" for having a funny accent

                ok bud we get it you're unhappy

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >they're not infantry, they're tourists
                They're the best kind of Infantry, utterly disposable.
                I'm not sure why this is making you seethe so much though.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                because they're too inept to use modern technology to navigate, instead preferring technoloGOY

                that's honestly it. i'm mad that a bunch of people who decided to go on war tourism fail so hard not at procuring and reproducing such basic information (maps)

                you don't need an officer around to download a few images, and if you STILL can't, then why not just go to a proper print shop!!!

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                They can't touch to zoom in because it's in offline mode.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                How do you propose they zoom in on their phone when it's in offline mode?

                You have to be fricking joking.
                Okay, ill take the bait anyway.
                Here is how i would do it and its absolutely moronic way but whatever.
                >open googlemaps
                >satellite view of the area, zoomed in
                >press prntscrn on keyboard
                >open ms paint
                >double open ms paint
                >ctrl + v on ms paint
                >cut out the picture
                >paste in the 2nd ms paint
                >copy paste like 10-20 images of the area, creating a big file
                >save file

                You just transfer big .png or .jpg file, idk 10k x 10k pixels for a 10 km^2 or something, and just open it in image/photo viewer or whatever app and zoom in?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Ya bro just go to kinkos in a war zone
                >that awkward moment when you run into some vatniks also printing out their maps at the same shop
                oopsie doopsie 😛

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                go to kinkos

                BEFORE

                flying across the world to a war zone

                or instead just get some proper maps on your phone instead of relying on Bing idk

                you could also go to one of many dedicated map/chart stores, or buy a dedicated GPS device with much finer maps already onboard the device

                there's a lot of easy solutions to the problem, and it really gets my goat that Americans never take them !!!!!!! imagine how much more effective you could be and just aren't. it's so frustrating

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Bro you’re peak Dunning-Kruger right now.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                How do you propose they zoom in on their phone when it's in offline mode?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >because they're too inept to... X
                Sounds like the Infantry. I dunno man, everything you say just convinces me more and more.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                thats IT im going to start a company where infantry are given the tools to succeed like maps and ammunition and detailed instructions on how to wear pants

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                In that case the Infantry will cut holes in the maps and wrap them round their crotches, and attempt navigate using their underpants.
                The ammunition will probably be used correctly though.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                well clearly they need someone like me who can both handle a rifle AND read the sheafs of sacred vellum that clearly mark where things like "water" and "cliffs" and "the enemy" are

                ...

                my brother in christ is this how officers were invented

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Wait, you didn't realise we were talking about the officers already?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                in true officer fashion, I did but wanted to make the joke clear first, for those sweet and juicy promotion points.

                but seriously this kind of thread always makes me very mad not for the individual failures, tactics, or politics -- just that people like you and me can overlook these simple things so easily, and set out and try to change the world regardless. it just makes everyone look bad. not anyone on any particular side. humanity as a whole.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                It's not the soldier's job to procure maps. It's the officer's responsibility. Which they clearly failed at this very basic task. Then again, this is the same Ukrainian commander who told multiple recon teams some random bullshit, causing a friendly firefight when they stumbled across Ukrainian positions. So yeah, the fault is with their Russia-tier commander.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                > Scratches around in the rubble remains of a nearby town with no electricity
                > Must be a print shop here somewhere

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >they're not infantry, they're tourists
                They're the best kind of Infantry, utterly disposable.
                I'm not sure why this is making you seethe so much though.

                Oh also, your whole argument seems to be
                >They're really stupid so they can't be Infantry
                No, that's 100% Infantry.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Bro what the frick are you even talking about? First of all, I’m in the army right now. There’s an entire general dedicated to people in the military on /k/.

              Second of all you absolutely can print out a map on paper on a normal printer as long as the dimensions are correct you can even use it with a protractor and compass.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >said like someone who has never even owned a home printer, let alone handled a large paper map

              If you need a bigger map, then just connect 2 smaller maps with clear tape. Not that hard.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      a lot of /k/ was once really poor, and the signing bonuses used to be really sweet. now we're just really poor. even if that weren't the case, most people here have better land nav gear than whatever is happening here. I don't expect our level of autismo, but you know what a fricking 22" plotter and arc gis costs? 200 fricking dollars.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All that channels videos have been boring af. It's funny that Russian state TV used clips as "proof" that NATO had active soldiers and foreign mercenaries taking part in Kharkov liberation when their videos are months old and filmed when Russians were talking those lands, not losing them.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >All that channels videos have been boring af
      Came here to say this

      Only good vid is the one where there's russian artillery impacting close to his position and they make a run for it, that was kino considering the very high fidelity of the footage

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    CivDiv is based and has seen a lot of shit in Ukraine. If he says it was fricked up I'm sure it was. I guess it paid off in the end anyways becuase the Russians got fricking smashed.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Too bad he came back alive. Same with that antifa tier cossackgundi mystery meat Black person. Both are as cringe as it gets

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        he said, in front of his computer.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          a neckbear in front of their computer is a pretty good authority on cringe, yeah

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >neckbear
            > To you, thru you
            Nice to know the old ways still have adherents.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Exactly. Right where I belong. Not across the globe putting my nose into a conflict that has nothing to do with me. The foreign fighters on both sides are moronic cannon fodder and from what I’ve heard from some of the foreign volunteers that came back from Ukraine they were accordingly treated as such by the Ukrainians

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >a conflict that has nothing to do with me

            russia is a very vocal adversary of the US, why would we NOT support a country being invaded by them?

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Lmao frick the US & NATO. The only war I’d support is against one of “our” so called “allies”. inb4 “go leave“ or some other r*ddit tier shit. This is my home board, you go back, tourist

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >This is my home board, you go back, tourist
                holy shit

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                what makes you think everyone here is a citizen of the US or supports the US, let alone both?

                you'd have to be a fricking moron to support a shithole country like russia. what is one redeeming feature of russia?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                Me being an isolationist nationalist some how means I support “muh russia”? I don’t support the current US israelited government or nato. The US and others sticking their nose where it doesn’t belong is what has lead to 99% of the moronation and wars we see in the world today. If we spent half the time and money worrying about our own citizens at home we’d be infinitely better off. If you can’t see or understand that then I don’t know what to tell you, you’re too far gone

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >isolationist

                cool word for 'stagnation'

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              what makes you think everyone here is a citizen of the US or supports the US, let alone both?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >cossackgundi
        At least this guy bothered to learn the language, got proper training and got a contract with an actual Ukrainian unit (36th marine brigade as I recall)

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    considering how 99% of the engagements seem to be in open fields, im surprised more western combatants aren't using DMRs/boltguns

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    are the cell phone towers working or are they not using it for security purposes?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      they have the maps downloaded but in offline mode they cant zoom in.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I know but they should just use the internet or ask the villagers for wifi.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        why not download high quality vector images to be used in the normal image viewer instead of relying on app store

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I use osmand for my offline gps needs. Not really good for recognizing terrain out in the field though.

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Im going to petition my Congressman to have any American Merc. Thrown in GITMO if they make it back home, FRICK YOU I DONT WANT TO LIVE NEXT DOOR TO ANY OF (YOU's)

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      bro is that justin trudeau

      [...]

      you'd have to be a fricking moron to support a shithole country like russia. what is one redeeming feature of russia?

      that's a bold assumption, that if you don't support the US you must support Russia

      and anti-NATO is not pro-Warsaw

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >HURRRR WE HAVE NO INTELLIGENCE
    lmao no shit. Couldn't thse morons pack a shitty commercial drone and do the recon from a safe distance first?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I mean seeing as they didn't, I'm going with "no". At the start of the war ukraine was like the shitty inbred backwards clone of the russian army, except without the glittering otherwordly russian technology.

      I mean imagine how bad that is. Everyone on /k/ thought the ukies would eventually get merked

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >At the start of the war
        Where are you measuring that, anon? By my very limited observation, I'd say that was true when the civil war broke out in 2014, and part of why the Russians manhandled them at the outset. That experience, far as I can tell, drove them to deeper integration with NATO and Western militaries generally, thus producing the remarkably improved fighting force we've gotten to see this year.

  20. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >firefight kino
    >Literally nothing happens for half an hour
    Are there any compilations of actual firefights in Ukraine besides Russians getting BTFOed on the toilet?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      this is literally what most warfare is.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Do you think the Astartes get creeped out by the Krieg? Or just views them as something akin to sentient fire ants.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >do you think astartes get creeped out
          No.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      my brother in allah maneuver warfare died with the maginot line

  21. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    are they lost? what the hell

  22. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Whats with the soldier with the parachute denison smock lmao

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm glad someone else saw that. I was trying to decide if it was a Denison or if it was some Flora variant I hadn't seen.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        in this second you can see the flap https://youtu.be/GJSfEEdV76k?t=1484

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I'm glad someone else saw that. I was trying to decide if it was a Denison or if it was some Flora variant I hadn't seen.

      in this second you can see the flap https://youtu.be/GJSfEEdV76k?t=1484

      it's advanced LARP dont worry about it

  23. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Me polish farmer eating borsh
    >Kurva doggo bark
    >Open door, see idiots with guns
    >”Hello, we americansky”
    >Stupid american larper is lost and ask for map to find Ukraine.
    >Stary pryk really suck at geography, meme is real.

  24. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Wonder if Civ Div will ever understand that his Ukraine commanders treated him and all those other volunteers with total disregard and just sent them on random patrols, purposefully without intel for months just to keep themselves off the frontline. You can take the Slav out of the Soviet Union but you can’t take the Soviet Union out of the Slav.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Ukrainian commander prioritise lives of their own countrymen over tourists
      Frick how dare they

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They have him planting a load of mines near russian tanks in one mission, seemed kinda useful

  25. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >The entire team is American, and do not speak Ukrainian
    >lots of talking to civilians

  26. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    This Civ Div guy is such a fricking homosexual, complete amateur, tourist, and can't speak the language. I remember that vid of him in Mykolaiv in February or March and the Ukrainian regulars there were so sick of him and his group that they demanded they be sent to the rear

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      he's ex marine, one tour in iraq or afghan afaik

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeahp he did one tour in Iraq during the Obama era surge now he thinks he is a delta force operator.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          He's still the product of american training, lel

  27. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >muh maps
    >muh tactics
    >muh planning
    Are you all braindead? Of course they don't have appropriate maps, they're in a war zone, they make do with what they've got.
    Planning and tactics go out the window when you have enemy 1000 meters away from you, and you're short on time. You need intelligence, all you have at the moment is wacky rumors, some of which may be true but may also be old or outdated. You will still need to go out and find for yourself where the enemy actually is. The mistake they made is not learning local language, which is again unrealistic because nobody knew they would have to volunteer in that country. And there's no time to learn the language in active warzone. They're doing the best they can given the circumstances.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You dumb disengenious Black person, in a properly organized military those are provided to you by your superiours, operations are planned and organized. This was worse than a bunch of actual /k/tards going on a field trip. They had zero preparation and achieved nothing but bumbling around fricking lost.
      An the ukrainian military has recived what now? 80-90bil$,geez i hope most of that wasnt pocketed because if they are so bad now i am scared to think what they would've achived on their usual 9bil annual budget. Probably just as bad if not worse than russians.
      Also lets not forget what a bunch of morons these war tourists are, they go to an active warzone, dont speak the language and expect the third world shithole to provide them with everything they need. They are lucky the enemy is even more moronic than they are, against even a 3rd rate military they would be long dead in a field.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        vatty vatty vatty!

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          0 arguments,i accept your concession.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >An the ukrainian military has recived what now? 80-90bil$,geez i hope most of that wasnt pocketed
        Pocketed how? It's not like they are receiving wads of cash, they've received mostly left over 90's equipment from storage, which they give out to their units and some to these volunteers, as you saw one of them had a NLAW, had they encoutered a russian armored vehicle they would've been able to destroy it more than making up for their presence there and we would be laughting at the footage.
        You have to consider the scale of this war, there are many such teams patrolling the grey zone areas around friendly positions to make sure no one is sneaking in, it's not possible to make sure everything is 100% perfect all the time like in a video-game.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          not him, but it would be foolish to think that a lot of this stuff won't end up on gray/black markets before long. there hasn't been this kind of an arms exchange since lend lease. and eastern europe is known for leaking like crazy. remember when vice actually did real stories, and he drunkenly bought a nuke from their cab driver in ukraine?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >You dumb disengenious Black person, in a properly organized military those are provided to you by your superiours, operations are planned and organized.
        I don't know if you're Russian or a never served, but this isn't really the case. Even in the US, there's issued gear and what you actually take. back during the second set, we even bought our own mags because we could get slick shit magpuls at home, or use beat to shit aluminum gi's. If you were lucky, you got some steel gi's. and hescos are heavy as shit. if you could afford it, you bought your own plates.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          I am neither a mutt nor a mongol, thank god. My point was clear, in any real military your officer would have a map(digital/paper whatever the frick) and orders. Even my reservist friend in my shithole got that much.
          These morons had zilch.
          Yes you can work on your individual equipment on your own, but operational shit should be handled by you unit superiours. In this case this did not happen, which confirms my suspicion that the Ukrainians are just as moronic as Russians and the difference is being made by western funding.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            The difference is absolutely made up by HIMARS wrecking their supply lines. The Ukrainians release all of these epic win videos of them pwning the Russians but in every single one I've yet to see a single released Ukrainian video where the ground fight was not utterly moronic. There's even one of those threads going on right now

            [...]

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              Ukrainians at least have the excuse that most of them aren't soldiers. They were just normal civilians until some time within the last 9 months. The Russians fight that moronic on a professional level.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What are you smoking? The Russians were just normal civilians until sometime within the last two days. "Mobilization" consists of press ganging civilians and sending them directly to the front.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The mobiks haven't been there that long. Must be a month at most now?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                This is old footage from before the mobilization. The only Russian troops in Ukraine at that point were "professional" volunteers.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                What video are you even referring to here? The recently released video of the moronic trench storming by a BMP? That's recent.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                The video OP posted. Civ Div has been back stateside for a couple months now and, to his credit, he left of his own free will when he realized what his unit was doing over there was suicidally moronic.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Like, you are from planet earth, correct? Yes, the ukrainian army was utter dogshit, no, it wasn't a properly organised one. None of thia shot applies. /k/ could probably have defeated ukraine. Thia is why nobody thought they'd survive and why its so hilarious russsia are doing so badly

  28. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why don't they ride bicycles if they have to walk so much? they're quiet and give tons of mobility

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A couple of months ago there was a video of them getting drove around by a drunk driver. After a while you got to start wondering if you're there for a good reason.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        yeah keeping friendly movemets and positions secret before the guys doing recon is a smart idea, what coud go wrong with it realistically

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      A onewheel would be better for combat. Keeping both hands free is vital.

  29. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Frick that was awkward. Turns out planning and administrative work is actually incredibly useful during the war. I take it the guy filming did a single tour in Army or Marines and really underestimated what having no support would mean working in an irregular military unit during a huge, open conflict like in Ukraine.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      There's no irregulars in Ukraine, it's all military. It seems like the officers in this section of front are either untrained, or the training didn't stick.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        The volunter unit is part of territorial defense and they're a irregular reserve of troops. The whole point is they're a paramilitary branch of the armed forces.

  30. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Seems like a chill task.

  31. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Is this civ dic again? He's the biggest larper around. Dropped out of the marines during basic due to an heatstroke and keeps posting videos where he says that "just as I turned off my gopro" massive firefight happened.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >he says while looking at the warm glow of his screen

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      try using a gopro to film a day long event senpai. the batteries only last for about 45 mins of filming and the hero 7 doesn't have a very good indicator of whether or not its on or off.

  32. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >vatnik this, ukranian "irregular" that

    morons the dudes in the op are american larpers.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      last episode they shot a frickin barn lock with one of their kino uber guns wttted like mad and hide in the tiny barn

  33. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Frick cowadoody wannabe war tourist plebbit zoomer cucks. I hope they all get green-on-blued by azov homosexuals.
    If you want to be a real man, go fight for Houthis in Yemen, Hezbollah in Palestine, rebels in Burma, anti-(Saudi backed) Islamist fighters in central Africa, or anti-(CIA backed) narcoterrorist militias in Latin America to actually fight tyranny without worrying about not dying with honor.
    Who knows; you fat neckbeard cucks might even meet a trad freedom fighter cutie to wife up.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      reddit tier post

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine thinking fighting for Iran is fighting against tyranny.

  34. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    The guy you're all shitting on was a US Marine, so it's all a bit of a self-own seeing as it's your military that produced the "larper". That said, the video says "terrible recon mission" and is a showcase of how terrible the ukie military was at the early stages of the conflict, so I don't understand why you're all shocked that the mission was as terrible as described. These guys are working with what they have, or at least with what the ukies have, which appears to be frick all. At the end he says he's never seen anything like it, and bearing in mind he's also served with YPG and Yazidi forces in Syria etc, that's quite the statement in terms of the general chaos of it.
    He remarks that the ukranians actually advanced a few tens of KM despite how fricked up they are. I think it's cool he shared the video despite it being a shitshow, it's a nice insight into how rag tag the ukie resistance was at the start of the war

  35. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    very informative of what NOT to do

  36. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    tl:dr

    > clueless morons wander around

    > nothing happens

    > later being fired at by other confused Ukrainians

    > end of story

  37. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    some ham

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      post physique homosexual

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >show me your body
        >you homosexual
        e-girlng at your lack of self-awareness. Go get your rocks off on PrepHole

  38. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    *keks in catian*

  39. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >chilling out with artillery missing your position
    incredible shit

  40. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    half an hour with the karen battalion hiding in the bushes and camping inside buildings

  41. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Civ Div seems like the stereotypical bro-vet American war tourist who thinks they're high speed because they did one or two uneventful pumps to either Iraq or Afghanistan towards the tail end of the conflicts when the enemy was either depleted down to kids paid $5 to spray an AK in the general direction of the first US troops they see and run away or just totally dormant and not even really bothering with IEDs anymore.

    Their intel was fricked but nobody on their team speaking the local language at a conversational level in an area with civilians in the mix, not having any kind of binoculars or other optics handy for observation on a recon mission and most of all relying on an iPad with fricking Google Maps for land nav is just inexcusably amateurish and lazy shit that nobody who's made it through even just shitty pogue-ass MCT would ever do willingly.

    I don't blame the Ukrainian regulars for complaining about this guy and his ilk and trying to get them sent to the rear or on suicide missions. At best they're useless, at worst they're a liability.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The fact that none of these guys are using even a basic thermal monocular is very telling, or even fricking binocs, no decent maps, no decent comms, nobody fricking understands what anyone is saying, conversational level language, shit is awful, fricking POG ass civ div gaygle.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        It's extra funny because they're humping around on what's supposed to be a quick not even overnight in and out recon mission where the whole idea is to remain undetected with fully loaded main packs (and even a couple of them doubling up with their daypacks) when they had a totally secure PB at that hospital/office they could have left the nonessential stuff at and still complaining about being overloaded and having a hard time moving fast (gee I wonder why that TL sprained his ankle so badly..it truly is a mystery) and staying concealed (as evidenced by that drone seeing them at their LOD and lighting it the frick up just 10 minutes later)

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yea made no sense to me

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Bringing everything and the kitchen sink on a mission like they did is peak FNG or at the very least POG who has never done dismounted patrolling like this for any real length of time.

            You quickly learn what you actually do need and what you can do without on these kinds of missions and become aggressively minimalist about it when your primary method of transport through your AO is the shoe leather express.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          ... didn’t he said they were originally supposed to stay the night in one of the villages and leave their gear there ?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Then they should have taken just their daypacks then.

            That's literally what they're for. It says so in the name.

            If your whole team needs to hump a full size main pack like they had for just a 1-2 day operation, especially in a built up area like that where you're not digging in and using buildings as shelter, you're bringing way too much gear which is a total rookie move.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        You can't blame them for the lack of equipment, apart from the lack of maps. The standards are probably the same across the entire army.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          For the price of that useless iPad with Google Maps they could have easily equipped the entire squad with a decent scope/pair of binos and/or a thermal monocular (decent man portable thermals aren't high speed military only gear anymore, they've been readily available on the civilian market since the 90s at least) plus a good military compass, grid square and decent maps of the AO which would have made that money go much much further.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This, seems he's there just to get GoPro footage and Instagram posts. Doubt he knows anything about Ukrainian history or culture

  42. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >Literally nothing happens.
    Why do you waste people's time?
    And how the frick is "recon infantry" a thing in 2022 when there's drones and satellites WTF?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Drones and satellites can't do recon in force or effectively probe the enemy's defenses like actual boots on the ground can.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yes they can. And more.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Thank you for your opinion.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Personal lessons:
      >learned google maps doesn’t work in a war zone
      >learned can’t determine friend or foe 400m away
      >learned binoculars could be useful on a recon mission
      >commanders aren’t being up front to teams leading to friendly fire incidents
      Intel obtained:
      >towns aren’t abandoned
      >one possibility has Russians
      >trenches discovered
      >Russians fired at and missed your command post by blocks away so still not compromised

      War isn’t a marvel movie, something doesn’t happen every 2 minutes followed by a quip to keep you entertained.

  43. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >on a recon mission
    >see something
    >asks if anyone brought binos

  44. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    can somebody redpill me on ELINT? sure I understand that you can track the emissions of an ipad, but if you're in a civilian area, turning on an ipad shouldn't read as anything suspicious right?

  45. 1 year ago
    wrath

    https://discord.gg/PGAkV83GX6

  46. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    UN FRICKING BELIEVABLE video

    this is surreal, truly.

    these guys were terrified rabbits running loose in a warzone.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >these guys were terrified rabbits
      >constantly laughing and joking

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Overreacting and hyperbole aren't going to win you the war, pidorashka.

  47. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You guys are asking a lot out of guys moronic enought to fight a foreign war without speaking the language and who accepted to become worthless cannon fodder literally for free. Smart people make money and donate drones and thermals to Ukraine. morons fly there, use uki equipment and don't bring scopes or optics to a recon/moving to contact mission.

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