No matter how hard you shill this unwanted piece of shit, you will never change the tides here. Although you're probably just trolling like the people who call everything a war crime
Ever since RIA kicked out Ian, his videos have been non stop paid advertisements. How is he so dumb to resort to this instead of just going to various museums and do videos on guns there?
>subtle
lmao, pretty blatant actually. >non-stop
If somebody paid him to shill the stamped SKS, they should get their meny back. He didn't even tell me where I could buy one.
Ditto the frog-sten, the line-thrower, etc.; there's still legitimate FW content there, just stop clicking on the obvious shill videos.
I always thought it would be funny if PrepHole looked some money to buy the "you decide which gun I review" tier on patreon and making him do a review on the $100 bill hi-point in .40s&w. Now I'm not sure it would be all that different from his usual content.
He probably has a good idea on how many FW videos he can still actually make, i.e. what museums he might be able to access and how many firearms there are still left to do videos on. Might as well cash in on paid videos while on top of your fame
The azov book was such a strike of bad luck. The guy almost gets canceled for making a book about reee muh ebil nazis, folds and burries everything and the whole ordeal is quickly forgotten. Then two weeks later the azov batallion become the heroes of the western world. What a bad timing.
Maybe if he had some conviction and actually stuck to his decisions instead of going with the wind he wouldn't have had an issue. >oh no, people are calling me names on the internet! Quick! Scrap the lucrative business deal!
Why did he even bend the knee considering 80% of the people complaining weren't even gun owners in the first place and 100% were communists
You fucking idiots. If Ian released his book that said Azov are evil nazis right in the middle of the time when Azov were holding out for Mariupol in the steel mill, nobody would have liked it. They would have said Ian is a dickbag and the cost of printing the books never would have been earned back.
He really got fucked by COVID and the Russian War.
Whatever backlog he had built up was totally burnt through, and it's not often that you can set up a trip to a museum to pick through their collection for whatever you think is most interesting to make videos on.
He probably had some kind of plan with Popenker in Russia with that book deal, but that got fucked up by the invasion. And making any videos *in* Russia even today would be career suicide.
Whatever happened with RIA is also an issue. Chances are they wanted him to upload his vids on their channel or to their website. As, without links in the description, the cross-site traffic they hoped to see most likely became nonexistent.
So doing shill vids is basically the only way to keep the channel alive in the meant time.
What else is he going to do? Firearms history doesn't tend to generate new content on its own too often.
I cant be sure how much is this just talks or true, but read that the falling out with RIA was mostly large set of small-ish issues and then one day Ian was trying to buy out gun directly from the owner bypassing the auction to save money i guess in a epicly retarded way
he supposedly got called out for it and told he is not welcome anymore
Take what I say with a grain of salt but I believe it's because ria wanted him to only work with them without signing an exclusivity deal or something.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Yea, in the end its private stuff between then and none of us can really know what happened
its still shame tho
I am a FW enjoyer but it sounds plausible. Ian was making videos about guns he personally wanted to buy and then only released them after the auction had happened. RIA was obviously in it because the videos helped drive prices up and Ian was being selective with his release schedule to snag stuff he wanted. I would not be surprised if he just pushed the envelope too hard and made some private deals.
>He probably had some kind of plan with Popenker in Russia with that book deal, but that got fucked up by the invasion.
Not the invasion, even. Remember when he was fixing to publish that Swede's memoir, 5 minutes before the invasion when Azov was still evil nazis? Popenker posted that the book deal was on hold during that.
Japan gun people are the most autisitic of the autistic and I doubt their state armories they will let foreigners near the premises let alone fondle their indigenous assault rifles in front of a camera unless they have a level 75 black belt in Japanese, creditials out the ass, and the backing of some giant news corporation. >but he could just talk about the hsioteya and do some interviews
No one wants to see that. They want gun porn.
Gay statist bullshit, your smart gun cant charge if someone can turn off your power. Colorado smart thermostats being turned off without customers consent, customers fooled into signing away rights and consent. Attack on the grid. Emp. Antifa attacking power transformer stations again. Your shit fuck gimp gun 2.0 is useless.
Fuck you and fuck bio guns make a bio-ax or bio-chainsaw next. I can't wait for a bio-chef's knife so no one can possibly hurt themselves with my tools. I'm scared of someone using my tools.
SAGE go fuck urself.
Who do you think is starting all the forest fires and lighting all the chicken egg and dairy farms on fire because those things didn't happen 20 years ago...............
Must be those Nasis CNN told me about
>Who do you think is starting all the forest fires and lighting all the chicken egg and dairy farms on fire because those things didn't happen 20 years ago............... >Must be those Nasis CNN told me about
Anon, antifa are doing none of those things.
https://mediamanipulation.org/case-studies/misidentification-how-antifafires-rumor-caught-wildfire
>this website on the internet told me this conspiracy theory was false >see look I even have a screenshot
JFC posting snopes in 2023. You are either 12 or 70, either way you do not belong here.
Snopes is a reasonable thing to send grandpa when he sends you things that are obviously false.
Fuck you and fuck bio guns make a bio-ax or bio-chainsaw next. I can't wait for a bio-chef's knife so no one can possibly hurt themselves with my tools. I'm scared of someone using my tools.
SAGE go fuck urself.
Who do you think is starting all the forest fires and lighting all the chicken egg and dairy farms on fire because those things didn't happen 20 years ago...............
Must be those Nasis CNN told me about
It's sad to see your dementia progress this far.
based dixiemauser follower. all he posts are zgirls now
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1 month ago
Anonymous
The problem is snopes is full of things that are obviously false. It's effectively left leaning propaganda.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I believe you, but I'd be curious to see what what snopes has gotten wrong. They certainly have their shit together more than some anons here. Like, it's the bottom rung, most basic gramps-got-into-the-clickbait-again tier fact checking for elderly people who would otherwise send all their money to a Nigerian prince.
You realize these threads keep getting made because a few of you dumbasses have a shitfit that rivals a Facebook boomer.
There are literally Facebook boomers in this thread. See:
Fuck you and fuck bio guns make a bio-ax or bio-chainsaw next. I can't wait for a bio-chef's knife so no one can possibly hurt themselves with my tools. I'm scared of someone using my tools.
SAGE go fuck urself.
Who do you think is starting all the forest fires and lighting all the chicken egg and dairy farms on fire because those things didn't happen 20 years ago...............
Must be those Nasis CNN told me about
Gay statist bullshit, your smart gun cant charge if someone can turn off your power. Colorado smart thermostats being turned off without customers consent, customers fooled into signing away rights and consent. Attack on the grid. Emp. Antifa attacking power transformer stations again. Your shit fuck gimp gun 2.0 is useless.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I know, and these threads keep happening because they can't control their emotions.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Snopes is moron gay garden gnome propaganda, and if you mention it for any reason except to reference a shining example of moron gay garden gnome propaganda, you are a moron gay garden gnome, too.
>self-described neo nazis >attack infrastructure trying to start a race war >spray paint a swastika at the crime scene >must have been the anti-fascists
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-men-sentenced-conspiring-provide-material-support-plot-attack-power-grids-united-states
You dumb fuck.
An EMP strong enough and close enough to knock out your electronics would also fry your nervous system. You'd immediately have a seizure, and the vessels in your brain would start leaking. The radiation from the blast would burn you, and the parts of you that aren't burned would immediately develop cancer. You'd be dead within twelve incoherent, agonizing hours.
But your 1911 might still work. Pew pew.
I'm still not sure exactly why the fuck people were so scared of y2k. >Oh no, our oil rigs and heavy machinery will never be able to work if they think it's 1900!
How did shit work before there were computers in everything? At worst we could probably just do that.
You can look into it but the fear was that machines simple would not run, that they would shut down and not turn on because the date was an integer that didn't exist or which prevented their clocks and/or CPUs from functioning. So how does a plane's autopilot work if you unplug the computer? Or a bank? Or whatever.
I think the panic leading up to Y2K did end up flushing out and fixing the majority of potentially vulnerable systems so nothing substantial happened by the time the rollover happened, but the majority of computers would have been unaffected anyway.
People were also a little freaked out about 9/9/99 because some older systems used that as a shutdown code. Or something like that anyway. Nothing came of it either.
You can look into it but the fear was that machines simple would not run, that they would shut down and not turn on because the date was an integer that didn't exist or which prevented their clocks and/or CPUs from functioning. So how does a plane's autopilot work if you unplug the computer? Or a bank? Or whatever.
I think the panic leading up to Y2K did end up flushing out and fixing the majority of potentially vulnerable systems so nothing substantial happened by the time the rollover happened, but the majority of computers would have been unaffected anyway.
Take me back to that era of irrational fear, not this 4D hell dimension of loosh harvesting
People were also a little freaked out about 9/9/99 because some older systems used that as a shutdown code. Or something like that anyway. Nothing came of it either.
There was no one issue - generally the issue was the number of programs would only consider the last two digits of the year in storage and calculations, making 1900 and 2000 indistinguishable. What effects that had varied hugely depending on what it was doing - some point of sale terminals stopped being able to validate transactions because the dates didn't make sense, interest calculations required or handed out the wrong payments because the calculations were broken, sometimes all it did was tell users the wrong date etc.
But it wasn't an irrational problem nor was it the end of the world. It was a real issue that would have affected a lot of systems, and some of them in incredibly dangerous or expensive ways. The reason it didn't was because it was a known and widely publicized issue so companies and governments spent a lot of money to prevent basically all the really important issues. Even with all that, the aforementioned issued did still occur.
Basically its the same as the retards that say "What about the hole in ozone layer, why did hippies stop complaining about that? Must have been nothing". The reason they stopped is people recognized the issue, implemented change, and the issue was resolved.
Amusingly enough, we didn't learn the first time, and there's another one coming up in 15 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
It'll be worse than Y2K ever was since signed 32-bit UNIX epoch time is possibly the single most commonly used format for keeping track of time even today, and is vastly more likely to be used to control program logic than 2-digit year representations ever were. Basically everything that's still being updated will undoubtedly get patched before then, but there's an insane amount of legacy/embedded software out there that's gonna break.
Xcel lets you opt into a program where they can make adjustments to your temperature in an energy emergency, in exchange for a credit on your bill. One 90 degree summer day, some customers had their thermostats set to 78 degrees. That's all that happened. Letting that anon have internet access is elder abuse.
I'd never used a swamp cooler until I went to visit my cousins in CO. It was absolutely comfy.
You haven't heard of this program because it's not a big deal.
https://co.my.xcelenergy.com/s/residential/heating-cooling/ac-rewards
Actually the program was opt-out and you couldn't opt out during the same billing period so people found out they were enrolled in this program in the middle of summer and couldn't use their AC for a month.
Did something happen to Ian? He was always a shill but he seems especially shilly lately, like he kicked his shill motor into overdrive. Almost all of his videos now are sucking some sort of corporate or government penis.
He needs to maintain a steady flow of new content and he lost his main source in the breakup with RIA. Now he has to take what he can get to keep the lights on.
Did something happen to Ian? He was always a shill but he seems especially shilly lately, like he kicked his shill motor into overdrive. Almost all of his videos now are sucking some sort of corporate or government penis.
I'm half remembering, but it was something like he did a private sale with one of their clients on a gun intended for one of their auctions, which means they didn't get their cut; or so the story goes. Nothing wrong with private sales, but I guess using access they've given him to screw them out of income is viewed as biting the hand that feeds.
They wanted a cut and Ian didn't think the terms were fair so he walked. They'll likely ask him to come back in a year when they realize their sales are down because Ian was basically better free advertisement than anything they could have ever paid for.
Youtube no longer allows direct links to places to purchase firearms.
RIA's deal with Ian was based around, "sure we'll let you finger fuck these rare gats because you can get attention to our product". Without those direct links, the same attention just isn't there.
As well, RIA started their own YT channel, or at least started giving it a lot of focus (https://www.youtube.com/@RockIslandAuctionCompany/videos). They probably wanted Ian to upload his ForgottenWeapons episodes to their channel. Which makes sense for RIA, but isn't something anyone could agree to.
Most likely simply a conflict of rational business interests between two parties.
He truly is a salesman. That was always the original intent of his videos. That's the only reason he was allowed to film himself fucking around with the guns at RIA in the first place. If he didn't fuck up by partnering with Karl he'd probably still be selling the WWSD AR.
it's just one motherfucker making sure at least one of these cancerous advertisements are up at all times. not even hiding it anymore. fuck you, gay, they're not even paying you are they?
It's someone from the company trying to shill preorders. They want to get the "right-wing gun guy" crowd on their side for PR reasons (See! Even the "gun nuts" on PrepHole.org like it!) without realizing that that exact demographic has every reason to despise their product.
Nah, nobody from the company cares about PrepHole. It's posted here just to raise your blood pressure - which, coincidentally, is exactly why I ordered mine.
>without realizing that that exact demographic has every reason to despise their product.
Idk, 'nobody can use my gun but me' seems right up PrepHole's alley
Woah it has a SECOND BACKUP ELECTRICAL SYSTEN THAT'S ARGUABLY LESS RELIABLE?! Wow that will assuage ALL of PrepHole's fears and suHispanicions!
No one on PrepHole is buying this as a defensive gun. Some PrepHoleeeks might buy it because "muh cybperpunks" but they're going to use it as a toy to fuck around with meaning the necessity of the biometrics systems is completely redundant since it's going to be sitting in a safe as a range toy instead on it's gay iPhone charging station in easy reach of anyone who walks in.
so wait, a kid can just pick up the gun, point the back at their sleeping parent and be able to shoot it lol.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
People typically sleep with their eyes closed, not open.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
its facial recognition, not a retina scanner
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>its facial recognition, not a retina scanner
Current IPhones by default do not open with FaceID unless your eyes are open. You have to go into settings to change it to be able to open your phone with eyes closed
>blink >gun doesn't work
Seems like a flaw
>blink
Blinking lasts between 0.1-0.4 seconds according to google. Aiming at a target unless you are cowboy drawing takes at the very minimum 0.5 seconds. So yes, if you are the slowest blinker in your state and are moving your arms through Jello, you might have a .0000000000001% higher risk of not getting a shot off
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
but does the gun check for that?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You wouldn't have to worry about any of this if you just bought a normal gun.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>wouldn't have to worry about this
It was sarcasm. I wasn't worried. I would however have to worry if my kid picked up my firearm or had to open a safe while someone is breaking through the window
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Train your fucking kids, mongoloid. I had access to unsecured guns and ammo from 10 years old onward and I never shot myself or any of my family because I had a fucking father figure.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
You wouldn't have to worry about father figures if you just bought a biometric gun
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I'm going to offload even more of my parenting responsibilities to a machine
Spoken like a true cuck.
wait don't a lot of those facial recognition systems have issues where peoples kids can unlock them? I know at least that is a problem with iphones. Are you going to have normies leaving guns out because they think it is safe but their toddler can just pick it up and shoot?
Woah it has a SECOND BACKUP ELECTRICAL SYSTEN THAT'S ARGUABLY LESS RELIABLE?! Wow that will assuage ALL of PrepHole's fears and suHispanicions!
No one on PrepHole is buying this as a defensive gun. Some PrepHoleeeks might buy it because "muh cybperpunks" but they're going to use it as a toy to fuck around with meaning the necessity of the biometrics systems is completely redundant since it's going to be sitting in a safe as a range toy instead on it's gay iPhone charging station in easy reach of anyone who walks in.
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"The gun needs electricity to work" is not a schizo conspiracy theory. You're adding a whole other resource and supply system that has to work before your can shoot your gun. It's fucking retarded. It's like making a gas powered wristwatch. It is silly and frankly bad because they're trying to sell it to people who are too retarded to know any better.
>electronics are too unreliable to use in an emergency
The point isn't "electronics bad" (although in some conditions it can be true that they are unreliable compared to mechanical systems) the problem is that in a split second situation you're counting on something like a fingerprint scanner or face scanner to work quickly and get you in the first time you use it. Anyone who has used systems like this knows that even in completely unstressful situations it can take multiple attempts to verify this way. That added time can very easily mean the death of you or someone else. I don't see anyone who's not a literal shill advocating for this or anything else that could fail and significantly slow down your response time when a person's life is on the line. Even if it's 99% effective there's still that 1 in 100 chance it fucks up and that fuck up probably isn't even your fault
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
How many times have you failed to unlock your phone? You pick it up far more than 100 times a day and I bet you can't remember the last time it failed. I bet you have to jiggle the key in your front door more often than you have to retry to unlock your phone.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Literally every single day at least twice a day when I'm working I have to give up and use a pattern unlock because my finger or thumb is dirty or something. It last happened probably about 5 hours ago.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
If you're in the continental us, 5 hours ago was between midnight and 3am. You make a really great point, anon - I hadn't considered that fingerprint scanners don't work if your fingers were just in an asshole.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I have a legitimate payroll nightshift job as millions of other people in the world do. Not that it really makes a difference what I was doing, the point is scanners are apt to fail if there's dirt or dust or sweat or blood or any manner of less than ideal conditions for the scan. So if you're doing house work or something and your hands are wet and dirty someone runs in the screen door and invades your house, maybe they even bop you on the head and you're bleeding, once you manage to get to your gun it's likely it'll fuck up and slow drawing your gun that much more.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
> So if you're doing house work or something and your hands are wet and dirty someone runs in the screen door and invades your house, maybe they even bop you on the head and you're bleeding, once you manage to get to your gun it's likely it'll fuck up and slow drawing your gun that much more.
You'd have the same problem unlocking/opening a safe with greasy shitty bloody fingers, which you won't have if the gun is just sitting on the table. Also, you can unlock the gun with your face. >inb4 what if my face is deep in an asshole too
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
I don't know the state of most people's safe situations, but I keep my home defense handgun in a quick access safe that takes a push button code. So, no, being dirty or wet or bloody is not going to inhibit me from pressing buttons the way biometric and facial recognition shit would.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>its hard to do and hasn't been done before so no one should ever try!
this is shitty defeatist logic and when called out for it, you will fall back on schizo theories.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's such a stupid idea in the first place, why even try? I don't think anyone would fault you for not attempting to perfect something that's stupid.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>a gun that only you can fire is a stupid idea
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Yes. Unironically.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
saying "Yes." to a rhetorical question isn't clever anymore.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Was it a rhetorical question though? Because I'm not clear that you understand the answer or why it's the answer.
Last time I checked a Stinger is not my bedside gun. Also its not a gun, its a fucking missile. Finally a missile only has to work once. A gun is expected to work thousands of times. Fucking retard.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Last time I checked a Stinger is not my bedside gun.
That's a personal choice. >Also its not a gun, its a fucking missile.
Ok. >Finally a missile only has to work once.
Dragged halfway around the world, through mud and dust and rain. If it fails, you and your buddies die. > A gun is expected to work thousands of times. Fucking retard.
You're expecting to get into a bedside shootout thousands of times? Like, twice a night, every night? Maybe you should move.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Dragged halfway around the world, through mud and dust and rain. If it fails, you and your buddies die.
Stingers before being issued out before a mission are usually put into containers such as pic related because they are rather fragile. >You're expecting to get into a bedside shootout thousands of times? Like, twice a night, every night? Maybe you should move.
Training doesn't count as use guise!
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You gotta put it in a special box
Okay >If you're not putting in thousands of rounds, you're never going to make a five yard shot on center mass
Wow
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Okay
Thanks for proving my point. >Wow
Sure, take your life into your hands on not practicing logging into your gun or shooting it and then expecting everything to go perfectly when you need it in a high stress environment.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's clear that not only do you own no guns, you've never even shot a gun.
It's not like a videogame or other digital product, it's guaranteed to sell out.
Now if you were asking why people would actually buy this, that's a whole other can of worms.
It's one guy shilling it because he's either trolling or on the company's payroll.
You can add the gun to your car and preview the order before you pay. That's where all the screenshots of the invoices are coming from. No one is actually paying 1400 dollars for a gun that doesn't work when the power goes out.
That makes sense as part of the design process. I don't want to see 5x videos of guns the army sent back to sig because the finish on the control surface sucked
Smart guns are a death of freedom. A smart gun is dependant on power to function. A smart gun user could potentially be locked out of his/her own gun for 'wrongthink'. If smartguns are normalized, regular guns will be banned.
May the smart gun factory burn
May their products be shitty
May they sell poorly
May they investors lose money
May they fail in everything they set out to accomplish
What optic should I get to go with mine? The built-in laser is a great idea, but I didn't see anything about an optics mount. Maybe that's something they'll ask about when they contact me about my grip profile (also a great idea)
This is the exclusive “launch” option and I think it looks the worst of all available options. The exclusive “expert” option that’s all FDE looks bad too
Mod Note:
Okay I was gonna let you all have your fun but I'm going to have to lock this thread because YALL CAN'T BEHAVE! We here at /r/liberalgunowners can tolerate a lot but when things get bigoted and homophobic it's time to pack it in and think about what you've done. Let me just cap this off by saying black lives matter, love is love, hate has no home here, he will not divide us, and trans rights are human rights!. Maybe next time yall will decide to be decent fucking human beings and we won't have to have this discussion again. Until then get boosted and science bless you all.
The government literally controls your electricity supply. In California the state turns off the power grid all the time because their shitty infrastructure keeps sparking wildfires. No electricity=dead battery=no gun. This isn't even getting into wireless killswitch shit which they absolutely will put into the gun without telling you.
>*company invents stupid product* >"this is a stupid product" >"PFFT! YOU'RE- YOU'RE JUST MAD!"
You're the one who's emotionally invested in a gun that's doesn't work without electricity because you're so preoccupied with "owning" the boomers that live rent free in your head. Smartguns are dumb guns and you're a dumb person.
>stop talking about that gun in particular because it HURTS MY FEELINGS and also DESTROYS MY RIGHTS >Of course I don't know how it works. Why would I need to?
This is the exclusive “launch” option and I think it looks the worst of all available options. The exclusive “expert” option that’s all FDE looks bad too
Their FDE looks a little darker than other FDE to me, so I went with all black.
"The gun needs electricity to work" is not a schizo conspiracy theory. You're adding a whole other resource and supply system that has to work before your can shoot your gun. It's fucking retarded. It's like making a gas powered wristwatch. It is silly and frankly bad because they're trying to sell it to people who are too retarded to know any better.
Likely yes. NJ changed their law specifically to "encourage the development of smart tunz" because no one wanted to be the company that got pistols banned in an entire state. Now that these gays have a meme gun up and running the NJ government is likely to revert the law and ban all handguns but this peice of shit.
Oh and even without any changes to the law every gun shop in NJ sill legally HAVE to buy one of these and have it avaliable for sale. So these fags are profiteering off gun control laws at the expense of local FFLs in a state where it already costs thousands yearly just to be an FFL. They're assholes using an unconstitutional legal mandate to turn a profit and they and anyone who supports them should be bullied relentlessly.
You're just reaching and searching for ways to get mad at something you'll never buy
>no one is actually paying 1400 for a gun >that's a whole month of social security checks
Maybe your kids will buy you one (if they still talk to you)
I believe you, but I'd be curious to see what what snopes has gotten wrong. They certainly have their shit together more than some anons here. Like, it's the bottom rung, most basic gramps-got-into-the-clickbait-again tier fact checking for elderly people who would otherwise send all their money to a Nigerian prince.
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There are literally Facebook boomers in this thread. See:
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You realize these threads keep getting made because a few of you dumbasses have a shitfit that rivals a Facebook boomer.
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Snopes is a reasonable thing to send grandpa when he sends you things that are obviously false.
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It's sad to see your dementia progress this far.
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Destroying gun rights to own the imaginary boomer fudds. Awesome!
Actually the state very rarely does it, it's the privatized power companies (mostly PG&E and Edison) that account for most of the blackouts. I live in a city with its own DWP and my power is very reliable and way cheaper than in private territory too.
Really looking forward to some dork not updating his firmware on one of the 3rd party sensors and some asshole with a script kiddy toy quietly perma-disables his shit.
I'm not a total cunt. I understand how not wanting to reduce small child accidents is a good thing. But fucking facial recognition + finger print sensors? Are you fucking kidding me?
Fuck if i know
these guns are expensive and kind of rare, true, but compared to most of his content it should be very easy to at least get hands on one
maybe he wants to make "look at me, im trying to do biatlon" video right after the tear-down one
might be even more interesting than anothe brutality video, ugh
Yes except all the hudson 9s in existence still function to this day. When the company folds and stops updating the firmware all 12 people who bought one of these are going to find it bricked within 6 months.
>"innovation" in 2023 is just shoving a circuit board and battering into a thing that already exists adding extra points of failure in the process
I hate this future. I want my fucking hover car god dammit
According to Ian's video, they went with an actual electrically-actuated firing mechanism, to prevent the obvious bypass potential of an electrically-blocked mechanism.
I remain skeptical, because I genuinely don't understand the reasoning -- if someone steals your gun and gets it to a workbench, they're gonna make it work for them eventually. Whether that's by grinding off the blocking dingus, by reflashing it with custom firmware, or by bodge-wiring the sear solenoid straight to the trigger microswitch makes no difference -- the only reasonable goal is to make it take 15 minutes instead of 15 seconds.
>if someone steals your gun and gets it to a workbench, they're gonna make it work for them eventually.
I don't even like the gun, but that's not even the market. This is aimed at people who want a gun more accessible than a nightstand safe but don't want their toddler an heroing, or people who think in the moment of home defense they might end up in a struggle where somebody takes the gun from them and turns it around.
I'm not a fan of this gun and could make arguments against both the above, but I'm at least understanding what its going for. This isn't meant to defeat the hoards of tech nerd crackheads who are breaking into houses and reinstalling firmware on peoples' stuff.
>This is aimed at people who want a gun more accessible than a nightstand safe but don't want their toddler an heroing, or people who think in the moment of home defense they might end up in a struggle where somebody takes the gun from them and turns it around.
AKA it's aimed at RETARDS and that's why it will fail.
Lol. Making a stupid product to sell to stupid people is a smart business move. You understand how many stupid people there are?
Appeal to what dumbasses want and market it right and you’ll make gorillions.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Those stupid people are the ones who are going to get our rights infringed, so we have every reason to relentlessly and mercilessly mock them and tell them they are stupid and why.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
The people you are hating on are going to take your hate as an endorsement of their decision.
This will get pitched as the "mature, adult" choice of gun. It will start to sell well. Other gun companies will start to imitate it pursuing a higher profit margin. In 10 years, all handguns in local gunshops will be $3000 smartguns or Hi-Point. You cannot escape.
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Anonymous
Not if nobody buys it. People that don't like guns and gun rights don't buy guns. And people who do won't buy this either. That's why posts like
It's not like a videogame or other digital product, it's guaranteed to sell out.
Now if you were asking why people would actually buy this, that's a whole other can of worms.
are so goofy, because they assume there's a demand for this and that people are going to be tripping over themselves trying to get these when nothing in reality supports it. The gun community has verbally rebuked the idea for years and every previous attempt to bring it to market failed probably due to the rebuke. So what good reason is there to think this time is different?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Not if nobody buys it. People that don't like guns and gun rights don't buy guns. And people who do won't buy this either.
I ordered one lol, which group am I in?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Neither, because you didn't order one.
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
It's more like this is the first fuel-efficient SUV on the market, and everyone with a pickup truck is feeling threatened. Trucks didn't go away, but some of their features made it to a broader market.
>This is aimed at people who want a gun more accessible than a nightstand safe but don't want their toddler an heroing, or people who think in the moment of home defense they might end up in a struggle where somebody takes the gun from them and turns it around.
No shit. So why the fuck is "to make it harder to defeat on a workbench" a justification for the firing mechanism? You aren't worried about your toddler disassembling it, defeating the interlock, and reassembling it, and when Jaquan gets no results from pulling the trigger, his next move is caving your skull in with the thing, not tinkering with it while fending you off with one arm.
So if they are lying about the reasons for design choices, I don't trust they're being honest about how it actually works either.
>I'm at least understanding what its going for.
Me too. Too bad you aren't understanding posts you reply to.
I’m sure it is a great product for the target market: People who want a gun for home defense but never actually practice. I’m super skeptical of the reliability of this gun even with its double ID features, but I feel safer knowing the ‘yards who’d most likely end up shooting themselves with a working gun are the ones buying this brick
Trash gun shill at it again. You will not last you shill. Every shill succumbs and quits. Every stupid poster does too. You know how mamy times some annoying ass says im here to stay get used to it before they never post again lmao its been happening for longer than youve had your job. You will not win.
I’ve watched all the videos. My takeaway is that this is made by a very smart company to appeal to a very stupid audience. We’ve all seen the mouth breathers at the range or in CCW classes who can barely operate their guns. They want the protection afforded by a gun but can’t be assed to practice and are still scared by the very gun they own.
This very smart company interviewed these idiots and made a product they are going to lap up.
Idk why but I'm more and more convinced that there is not a single person on this site who actually knows anything about tech. Don't tell me PrepHole knows anything when all they do is shit fling about Linux while being jobless.
I really wish the Deep State’s division of Big Hat would stop shoving face recognition tech into every conceivable item. It blows my mind that people happily accept facial recognition tech. >B-b-b-but the gun’s docking station isn’t connected to the internet >trust me bro
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You're a moron garden gnome shill arguing in bad faith. Adding electronics to a modern handgun adds exponentially more points of failure while offering little to no benefit. How about YOU admit that your desperate need for people on PrepHole to like this peice of shit gun stems not from its value as a toll but form YOUR irrational fetish for technology to pervade every aspect of your life? Go tape LEDs onto a Glock if you want a cyberpunk gun so bad, retard.
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Really struck a nerve, huh. I really didn't think I was that spot on. Now I know
You're a moron garden gnome shill arguing in bad faith. Adding electronics to a modern handgun adds exponentially more points of failure while offering little to no benefit. How about YOU admit that your desperate need for people on PrepHole to like this peice of shit gun stems not from its value as a toll but form YOUR irrational fetish for technology to pervade every aspect of your life? Go tape LEDs onto a Glock if you want a cyberpunk gun so bad, retard.
>New exciting Biofire video just dropped! >New exciting
Yeah you buttfucker. That lingo sounds absolutely 100% PrepHole natural.
Get the fuck off this board you dirty marketing shill.
lol, S&W couldn't even add a built in lock without it fucking up occasionally. Do you really think that adding a bunch of electrical components won't impact the reliability?
>this fucking company is telling people it's okay to leave a loaded handgun in access of children because they stapled an iPhone faced system onto it
Hope they get sued.
This gun is incredibly niche and kind of dumb. I was promised flying cars, I got ugly guns solving a problem that could be addressed any number of uncucked ways.
Oh well.
The average American can barely afford a brand new car. How the fuck are you incentivize and normalize billions of people purchasing a brand new aircraft? The technology has been there forever, what is holding it back is cost and conventions
The problem isn't cost, actually. It's people. The only way we'll ever accept Bubba McFuckstick flying around over residential areas is with some sort of invisible fencing that restricts air traffic to "lanes" and limits your control of the actual craft. That's not as easy as it sounds.
But, back on topic, this gun dumb.
>some sort of invisible fencing that restricts air traffic to "lanes" and limits your control of the actual craft
But I want to see road rage turn into hovercar dogfights.
Good lord, the amount of shilling Ian is putting into the biofire is off the charts. Will it actually work? I get the feeling that as soon as it's released to the public, someone will find a way to bypass the security measures and make a video about it.
We will see. Nobody has done a teardown yet. This bitch still uses conventional ammo, which still fires when a hammer hits the primer. It's a first iteration. Surely there's an unintended method of making the gun operational without authorisation.
shill-kino
No matter how hard you shill this unwanted piece of shit, you will never change the tides here. Although you're probably just trolling like the people who call everything a war crime
Ever since RIA kicked out Ian, his videos have been non stop paid advertisements. How is he so dumb to resort to this instead of just going to various museums and do videos on guns there?
>subtle
lmao, pretty blatant actually.
>non-stop
If somebody paid him to shill the stamped SKS, they should get their meny back. He didn't even tell me where I could buy one.
Ditto the frog-sten, the line-thrower, etc.; there's still legitimate FW content there, just stop clicking on the obvious shill videos.
>He didn't even tell me where I could buy one.
youtube won't let him.
We're not on youtube, so maybe you can tell me?
I want one, but I can't seem to find any local Norinco dealers for some reasons.
smartgun.com
Nice trips btw
Don't see any SKSes there, stamped or otherwise. Thanks for trying, though.
The SKS isn't even the best combloc shitbox rifle. That award goes to the Vz. And no one can prove me otherwise.
Still one of my favorites.
Rolling.
I always thought it would be funny if PrepHole looked some money to buy the "you decide which gun I review" tier on patreon and making him do a review on the $100 bill hi-point in .40s&w. Now I'm not sure it would be all that different from his usual content.
He probably has a good idea on how many FW videos he can still actually make, i.e. what museums he might be able to access and how many firearms there are still left to do videos on. Might as well cash in on paid videos while on top of your fame
He also had a Ukraine and Russia trip planned before the Azov book deal exploded and the war started.
imo before february 2022 it would have been dope
The azov book was such a strike of bad luck. The guy almost gets canceled for making a book about reee muh ebil nazis, folds and burries everything and the whole ordeal is quickly forgotten. Then two weeks later the azov batallion become the heroes of the western world. What a bad timing.
Maybe if he had some conviction and actually stuck to his decisions instead of going with the wind he wouldn't have had an issue.
>oh no, people are calling me names on the internet! Quick! Scrap the lucrative business deal!
You fucking idiots. If Ian released his book that said Azov are evil nazis right in the middle of the time when Azov were holding out for Mariupol in the steel mill, nobody would have liked it. They would have said Ian is a dickbag and the cost of printing the books never would have been earned back.
The book wasn't calling Azov nazis, Twitter was.
Why did he even bend the knee considering 80% of the people complaining weren't even gun owners in the first place and 100% were communists
They complained up higher to his actual printer or something like that.
Ah well, I got my book from a based company and Ian didn't get a cent.
He really got fucked by COVID and the Russian War.
Whatever backlog he had built up was totally burnt through, and it's not often that you can set up a trip to a museum to pick through their collection for whatever you think is most interesting to make videos on.
He probably had some kind of plan with Popenker in Russia with that book deal, but that got fucked up by the invasion. And making any videos *in* Russia even today would be career suicide.
Whatever happened with RIA is also an issue. Chances are they wanted him to upload his vids on their channel or to their website. As, without links in the description, the cross-site traffic they hoped to see most likely became nonexistent.
So doing shill vids is basically the only way to keep the channel alive in the meant time.
What else is he going to do? Firearms history doesn't tend to generate new content on its own too often.
I cant be sure how much is this just talks or true, but read that the falling out with RIA was mostly large set of small-ish issues and then one day Ian was trying to buy out gun directly from the owner bypassing the auction to save money i guess in a epicly retarded way
he supposedly got called out for it and told he is not welcome anymore
From what I've gathered from my memory that's just some shit made up by people who would spam PrepHole with Ian bad threads.
It's highly possible, i actually like most of Ians content so im not incluned to dig into these too much
Take what I say with a grain of salt but I believe it's because ria wanted him to only work with them without signing an exclusivity deal or something.
Yea, in the end its private stuff between then and none of us can really know what happened
its still shame tho
I am a FW enjoyer but it sounds plausible. Ian was making videos about guns he personally wanted to buy and then only released them after the auction had happened. RIA was obviously in it because the videos helped drive prices up and Ian was being selective with his release schedule to snag stuff he wanted. I would not be surprised if he just pushed the envelope too hard and made some private deals.
>He probably had some kind of plan with Popenker in Russia with that book deal, but that got fucked up by the invasion.
Not the invasion, even. Remember when he was fixing to publish that Swede's memoir, 5 minutes before the invasion when Azov was still evil nazis? Popenker posted that the book deal was on hold during that.
I would love to see him go over to Japan and do some videos on their indigenous-designed rifles like the Type 64 and Type 89
Japan gun people are the most autisitic of the autistic and I doubt their state armories they will let foreigners near the premises let alone fondle their indigenous assault rifles in front of a camera unless they have a level 75 black belt in Japanese, creditials out the ass, and the backing of some giant news corporation.
>but he could just talk about the hsioteya and do some interviews
No one wants to see that. They want gun porn.
That would be some real cool stuff. Literally unknown here in the west
Ian worked for IRA?
Are you dyslexic o just dumb?
deets on what happened with RIA? And, do I remember correctly that something fell through with the other auction house, James D. Julia?
James D Julia got bought by Morphy a couple years ago; he's still working with them under that name.
>im mad that ian isn't talking about some obscure version of an 1800s rifle that is 1 inch shorter than the standard version
Gay statist bullshit, your smart gun cant charge if someone can turn off your power. Colorado smart thermostats being turned off without customers consent, customers fooled into signing away rights and consent. Attack on the grid. Emp. Antifa attacking power transformer stations again. Your shit fuck gimp gun 2.0 is useless.
>Antifa attacking power transformer stations again
Get off Facebook, dad. Not everything you read on there is true.
Fuck you and fuck bio guns make a bio-ax or bio-chainsaw next. I can't wait for a bio-chef's knife so no one can possibly hurt themselves with my tools. I'm scared of someone using my tools.
SAGE go fuck urself.
Who do you think is starting all the forest fires and lighting all the chicken egg and dairy farms on fire because those things didn't happen 20 years ago...............
Must be those Nasis CNN told me about
>Who do you think is starting all the forest fires and lighting all the chicken egg and dairy farms on fire because those things didn't happen 20 years ago...............
>Must be those Nasis CNN told me about
Anon, antifa are doing none of those things.
https://mediamanipulation.org/case-studies/misidentification-how-antifafires-rumor-caught-wildfire
is that a snopes screenshot you gay
Snopes is a reasonable thing to send grandpa when he sends you things that are obviously false.
It's sad to see your dementia progress this far.
Checked
The problem is snopes is full of things that are obviously false. It's effectively left leaning propaganda.
I believe you, but I'd be curious to see what what snopes has gotten wrong. They certainly have their shit together more than some anons here. Like, it's the bottom rung, most basic gramps-got-into-the-clickbait-again tier fact checking for elderly people who would otherwise send all their money to a Nigerian prince.
There are literally Facebook boomers in this thread. See:
I know, and these threads keep happening because they can't control their emotions.
Snopes is moron gay garden gnome propaganda, and if you mention it for any reason except to reference a shining example of moron gay garden gnome propaganda, you are a moron gay garden gnome, too.
Okay grandpa. We'll see you at Christmas.
>this website on the internet told me this conspiracy theory was false
>see look I even have a screenshot
JFC posting snopes in 2023. You are either 12 or 70, either way you do not belong here.
Are you going to shoot that mountain or are you suffering from first person shooter syndrome?
Russians have been paying far right and far left to fuck shit up though.
idk who it was but this did happen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metcalf_sniper_attack
Take a drink every time this 50+ anon makes a statement that has no basis on the reality of how modern technology works in the year 2023
Holy shit how is a facebook boomer more on point than you retards? You zoomers blindly trust your digital tech to always work.
>self-described neo nazis
>attack infrastructure trying to start a race war
>spray paint a swastika at the crime scene
>must have been the anti-fascists
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-men-sentenced-conspiring-provide-material-support-plot-attack-power-grids-united-states
You dumb fuck.
so if nazis attack the power grid i'll still be fucked with a smart gun?
An EMP strong enough and close enough to knock out your electronics would also fry your nervous system. You'd immediately have a seizure, and the vessels in your brain would start leaking. The radiation from the blast would burn you, and the parts of you that aren't burned would immediately develop cancer. You'd be dead within twelve incoherent, agonizing hours.
But your 1911 might still work. Pew pew.
>Y2K was 35 years ago
God I feel old.
I'm still not sure exactly why the fuck people were so scared of y2k.
>Oh no, our oil rigs and heavy machinery will never be able to work if they think it's 1900!
How did shit work before there were computers in everything? At worst we could probably just do that.
You can look into it but the fear was that machines simple would not run, that they would shut down and not turn on because the date was an integer that didn't exist or which prevented their clocks and/or CPUs from functioning. So how does a plane's autopilot work if you unplug the computer? Or a bank? Or whatever.
I think the panic leading up to Y2K did end up flushing out and fixing the majority of potentially vulnerable systems so nothing substantial happened by the time the rollover happened, but the majority of computers would have been unaffected anyway.
>plane autopilot
Take me back to that era of irrational fear, not this 4D hell dimension of loosh harvesting
wtf is loosh harvesting again? I always forget, there's so much world ending cringe going on I lose track.
it's a PrepHole meme that uses too much poetic license
People were also a little freaked out about 9/9/99 because some older systems used that as a shutdown code. Or something like that anyway. Nothing came of it either.
There was no one issue - generally the issue was the number of programs would only consider the last two digits of the year in storage and calculations, making 1900 and 2000 indistinguishable. What effects that had varied hugely depending on what it was doing - some point of sale terminals stopped being able to validate transactions because the dates didn't make sense, interest calculations required or handed out the wrong payments because the calculations were broken, sometimes all it did was tell users the wrong date etc.
But it wasn't an irrational problem nor was it the end of the world. It was a real issue that would have affected a lot of systems, and some of them in incredibly dangerous or expensive ways. The reason it didn't was because it was a known and widely publicized issue so companies and governments spent a lot of money to prevent basically all the really important issues. Even with all that, the aforementioned issued did still occur.
Basically its the same as the retards that say "What about the hole in ozone layer, why did hippies stop complaining about that? Must have been nothing". The reason they stopped is people recognized the issue, implemented change, and the issue was resolved.
Amusingly enough, we didn't learn the first time, and there's another one coming up in 15 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
It'll be worse than Y2K ever was since signed 32-bit UNIX epoch time is possibly the single most commonly used format for keeping track of time even today, and is vastly more likely to be used to control program logic than 2-digit year representations ever were. Basically everything that's still being updated will undoubtedly get patched before then, but there's an insane amount of legacy/embedded software out there that's gonna break.
>why were people so scared of y2k bros nothing happened
because it was acknowledged as an issue and fixed beforehand, that's fucking why
I ordered the same colors. Good choice.
>Colorado smart thermostats being turned off without customers consent,
By whom and how?
Xcel lets you opt into a program where they can make adjustments to your temperature in an energy emergency, in exchange for a credit on your bill. One 90 degree summer day, some customers had their thermostats set to 78 degrees. That's all that happened. Letting that anon have internet access is elder abuse.
Ok. I actually live in CO, but I hadn't heard of that. We have a swamp cooler, anyway.
I'd never used a swamp cooler until I went to visit my cousins in CO. It was absolutely comfy.
You haven't heard of this program because it's not a big deal.
https://co.my.xcelenergy.com/s/residential/heating-cooling/ac-rewards
78 degree air conditioning is basically no air conditioning.
Lose weight 🙂
Actually the program was opt-out and you couldn't opt out during the same billing period so people found out they were enrolled in this program in the middle of summer and couldn't use their AC for a month.
Wow, now that's a gun I'd expect to be used by my favorite Marvel characters! My trans friends and I will be pre ordering for sure!
chuds on sewer slide watch
Did something happen to Ian? He was always a shill but he seems especially shilly lately, like he kicked his shill motor into overdrive. Almost all of his videos now are sucking some sort of corporate or government penis.
He needs to maintain a steady flow of new content and he lost his main source in the breakup with RIA. Now he has to take what he can get to keep the lights on.
What exactly happened with RIA?
They have their own Youtube channel, I'm guessing they want to go it alone.
I'm half remembering, but it was something like he did a private sale with one of their clients on a gun intended for one of their auctions, which means they didn't get their cut; or so the story goes. Nothing wrong with private sales, but I guess using access they've given him to screw them out of income is viewed as biting the hand that feeds.
They wanted a cut and Ian didn't think the terms were fair so he walked. They'll likely ask him to come back in a year when they realize their sales are down because Ian was basically better free advertisement than anything they could have ever paid for.
Ian, stop posting
Youtube no longer allows direct links to places to purchase firearms.
RIA's deal with Ian was based around, "sure we'll let you finger fuck these rare gats because you can get attention to our product". Without those direct links, the same attention just isn't there.
As well, RIA started their own YT channel, or at least started giving it a lot of focus (https://www.youtube.com/@RockIslandAuctionCompany/videos). They probably wanted Ian to upload his ForgottenWeapons episodes to their channel. Which makes sense for RIA, but isn't something anyone could agree to.
Most likely simply a conflict of rational business interests between two parties.
YouTube hasn't allowed direct links to gun website for years. This is not a new change.
He truly is a salesman. That was always the original intent of his videos. That's the only reason he was allowed to film himself fucking around with the guns at RIA in the first place. If he didn't fuck up by partnering with Karl he'd probably still be selling the WWSD AR.
it's just one motherfucker making sure at least one of these cancerous advertisements are up at all times. not even hiding it anymore. fuck you, gay, they're not even paying you are they?
It's someone from the company trying to shill preorders. They want to get the "right-wing gun guy" crowd on their side for PR reasons (See! Even the "gun nuts" on PrepHole.org like it!) without realizing that that exact demographic has every reason to despise their product.
Nah, nobody from the company cares about PrepHole. It's posted here just to raise your blood pressure - which, coincidentally, is exactly why I ordered mine.
They clearly do care or they wouldn't keep posting thinly veiled ads here.
>without realizing that that exact demographic has every reason to despise their product.
Idk, 'nobody can use my gun but me' seems right up PrepHole's alley
>doesn't work without electricity
>trusting your life to a fingerprint scanner
Yeah bro so PrepHole
>with a fingerprint scanner
and the backup facial recognition camera you neglected to mention
Woah it has a SECOND BACKUP ELECTRICAL SYSTEN THAT'S ARGUABLY LESS RELIABLE?! Wow that will assuage ALL of PrepHole's fears and suHispanicions!
No one on PrepHole is buying this as a defensive gun. Some PrepHoleeeks might buy it because "muh cybperpunks" but they're going to use it as a toy to fuck around with meaning the necessity of the biometrics systems is completely redundant since it's going to be sitting in a safe as a range toy instead on it's gay iPhone charging station in easy reach of anyone who walks in.
The facial scanner doesn't work without electricity either, genius.
so wait, a kid can just pick up the gun, point the back at their sleeping parent and be able to shoot it lol.
People typically sleep with their eyes closed, not open.
its facial recognition, not a retina scanner
>its facial recognition, not a retina scanner
Current IPhones by default do not open with FaceID unless your eyes are open. You have to go into settings to change it to be able to open your phone with eyes closed
>blink
Blinking lasts between 0.1-0.4 seconds according to google. Aiming at a target unless you are cowboy drawing takes at the very minimum 0.5 seconds. So yes, if you are the slowest blinker in your state and are moving your arms through Jello, you might have a .0000000000001% higher risk of not getting a shot off
but does the gun check for that?
You wouldn't have to worry about any of this if you just bought a normal gun.
>wouldn't have to worry about this
It was sarcasm. I wasn't worried. I would however have to worry if my kid picked up my firearm or had to open a safe while someone is breaking through the window
Train your fucking kids, mongoloid. I had access to unsecured guns and ammo from 10 years old onward and I never shot myself or any of my family because I had a fucking father figure.
You wouldn't have to worry about father figures if you just bought a biometric gun
>I'm going to offload even more of my parenting responsibilities to a machine
Spoken like a true cuck.
>blink
>gun doesn't work
Seems like a flaw
wait don't a lot of those facial recognition systems have issues where peoples kids can unlock them? I know at least that is a problem with iphones. Are you going to have normies leaving guns out because they think it is safe but their toddler can just pick it up and shoot?
>electronics are too unreliable to use in an emergency
>gun works perfectly without electronics
>I HAVE TO CRAM A PCB AND BATTERY INTO THIS GUN BECAUSE... I JUST DO OKAY?!?!?!
The point isn't "electronics bad" (although in some conditions it can be true that they are unreliable compared to mechanical systems) the problem is that in a split second situation you're counting on something like a fingerprint scanner or face scanner to work quickly and get you in the first time you use it. Anyone who has used systems like this knows that even in completely unstressful situations it can take multiple attempts to verify this way. That added time can very easily mean the death of you or someone else. I don't see anyone who's not a literal shill advocating for this or anything else that could fail and significantly slow down your response time when a person's life is on the line. Even if it's 99% effective there's still that 1 in 100 chance it fucks up and that fuck up probably isn't even your fault
How many times have you failed to unlock your phone? You pick it up far more than 100 times a day and I bet you can't remember the last time it failed. I bet you have to jiggle the key in your front door more often than you have to retry to unlock your phone.
Literally every single day at least twice a day when I'm working I have to give up and use a pattern unlock because my finger or thumb is dirty or something. It last happened probably about 5 hours ago.
If you're in the continental us, 5 hours ago was between midnight and 3am. You make a really great point, anon - I hadn't considered that fingerprint scanners don't work if your fingers were just in an asshole.
I have a legitimate payroll nightshift job as millions of other people in the world do. Not that it really makes a difference what I was doing, the point is scanners are apt to fail if there's dirt or dust or sweat or blood or any manner of less than ideal conditions for the scan. So if you're doing house work or something and your hands are wet and dirty someone runs in the screen door and invades your house, maybe they even bop you on the head and you're bleeding, once you manage to get to your gun it's likely it'll fuck up and slow drawing your gun that much more.
> So if you're doing house work or something and your hands are wet and dirty someone runs in the screen door and invades your house, maybe they even bop you on the head and you're bleeding, once you manage to get to your gun it's likely it'll fuck up and slow drawing your gun that much more.
You'd have the same problem unlocking/opening a safe with greasy shitty bloody fingers, which you won't have if the gun is just sitting on the table. Also, you can unlock the gun with your face.
>inb4 what if my face is deep in an asshole too
I don't know the state of most people's safe situations, but I keep my home defense handgun in a quick access safe that takes a push button code. So, no, being dirty or wet or bloody is not going to inhibit me from pressing buttons the way biometric and facial recognition shit would.
>its hard to do and hasn't been done before so no one should ever try!
this is shitty defeatist logic and when called out for it, you will fall back on schizo theories.
It's such a stupid idea in the first place, why even try? I don't think anyone would fault you for not attempting to perfect something that's stupid.
>a gun that only you can fire is a stupid idea
Yes. Unironically.
saying "Yes." to a rhetorical question isn't clever anymore.
Was it a rhetorical question though? Because I'm not clear that you understand the answer or why it's the answer.
Last time I checked a Stinger is not my bedside gun. Also its not a gun, its a fucking missile. Finally a missile only has to work once. A gun is expected to work thousands of times. Fucking retard.
>Last time I checked a Stinger is not my bedside gun.
That's a personal choice.
>Also its not a gun, its a fucking missile.
Ok.
>Finally a missile only has to work once.
Dragged halfway around the world, through mud and dust and rain. If it fails, you and your buddies die.
> A gun is expected to work thousands of times. Fucking retard.
You're expecting to get into a bedside shootout thousands of times? Like, twice a night, every night? Maybe you should move.
>Dragged halfway around the world, through mud and dust and rain. If it fails, you and your buddies die.
Stingers before being issued out before a mission are usually put into containers such as pic related because they are rather fragile.
>You're expecting to get into a bedside shootout thousands of times? Like, twice a night, every night? Maybe you should move.
Training doesn't count as use guise!
>You gotta put it in a special box
Okay
>If you're not putting in thousands of rounds, you're never going to make a five yard shot on center mass
Wow
>Okay
Thanks for proving my point.
>Wow
Sure, take your life into your hands on not practicing logging into your gun or shooting it and then expecting everything to go perfectly when you need it in a high stress environment.
It's clear that not only do you own no guns, you've never even shot a gun.
That's my line.
>people shit on ian for so much as associating with karl
>ian breaks up with karl
>people find new reasons to shit on ian
its all so tiresome
haters gonna hate
Fun fact, this image broke the forgotten weapons sub reddit.
Did Karl draw it himself, or was it commissioned?
poor quality product
So when people say they've preordered they're memeing right? These people can't be serious.
It's not like a videogame or other digital product, it's guaranteed to sell out.
Now if you were asking why people would actually buy this, that's a whole other can of worms.
It's one guy shilling it because he's either trolling or on the company's payroll.
You can add the gun to your car and preview the order before you pay. That's where all the screenshots of the invoices are coming from. No one is actually paying 1400 dollars for a gun that doesn't work when the power goes out.
That’s not how it works sweaty
Besides, it’s really not that big of a deal to drop a refundable $150 to preorder a gun
It is how it works.
No, it’s not. The reservation email looks a lot different than the cart
>no one is actually paying 1400 for a gun
>that's a whole month of social security checks
Maybe your kids will buy you one (if they still talk to you)
At least it's not another P320 video
Funny, your only half right. Apparently they used the p320 as a test bed for concept development.
That makes sense as part of the design process. I don't want to see 5x videos of guns the army sent back to sig because the finish on the control surface sucked
I want to love C&Rsenal, but there are only so many hour long Luger variant episodes I can stomach
based dixiemauser follower. all he posts are zgirls now
Smart guns are a death of freedom. A smart gun is dependant on power to function. A smart gun user could potentially be locked out of his/her own gun for 'wrongthink'. If smartguns are normalized, regular guns will be banned.
May the smart gun factory burn
May their products be shitty
May they sell poorly
May they investors lose money
May they fail in everything they set out to accomplish
Oy vey, a gun that automatically reports you to police and collects your fingerprints automatically.
Make them free!
Adding herbs to this delicious post before it reaches page 10 (where it belongs)
I have to admit, I only ordered one because of how cool they look. Spacegat aesthetic can't be beat.
I went for the desert planet look
You realize these threads keep getting made because a few of you dumbasses have a shitfit that rivals a Facebook boomer.
>*posts stupid shit*
>you're a moron
>LELELEL I TROLL YOU
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What optic should I get to go with mine? The built-in laser is a great idea, but I didn't see anything about an optics mount. Maybe that's something they'll ask about when they contact me about my grip profile (also a great idea)
Great question. Email them and let us know.
This is the white man's gun
You know I got that snowbunny on me (or I will in Q1 2024)
This is the exclusive “launch” option and I think it looks the worst of all available options. The exclusive “expert” option that’s all FDE looks bad too
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Okay I was gonna let you all have your fun but I'm going to have to lock this thread because YALL CAN'T BEHAVE! We here at /r/liberalgunowners can tolerate a lot but when things get bigoted and homophobic it's time to pack it in and think about what you've done. Let me just cap this off by saying black lives matter, love is love, hate has no home here, he will not divide us, and trans rights are human rights!. Maybe next time yall will decide to be decent fucking human beings and we won't have to have this discussion again. Until then get boosted and science bless you all.
>the government will be able to shut it down
>because THEY JUST DO OKAY
The government literally controls your electricity supply. In California the state turns off the power grid all the time because their shitty infrastructure keeps sparking wildfires. No electricity=dead battery=no gun. This isn't even getting into wireless killswitch shit which they absolutely will put into the gun without telling you.
You're just reaching and searching for ways to get mad at something you'll never buy
>*company invents stupid product*
>"this is a stupid product"
>"PFFT! YOU'RE- YOU'RE JUST MAD!"
You're the one who's emotionally invested in a gun that's doesn't work without electricity because you're so preoccupied with "owning" the boomers that live rent free in your head. Smartguns are dumb guns and you're a dumb person.
If it's so stupid why is there such massive interest on PrepHole?
You're a cheeky one.
Nice ad hominem and twitter tier smug reaction image.
>stop talking about that gun in particular because it HURTS MY FEELINGS and also DESTROYS MY RIGHTS
>Of course I don't know how it works. Why would I need to?
Their FDE looks a little darker than other FDE to me, so I went with all black.
>stop criticizing this gun in particular because it HURTS MY FEELINGS
Plain black is so boring though
"The gun needs electricity to work" is not a schizo conspiracy theory. You're adding a whole other resource and supply system that has to work before your can shoot your gun. It's fucking retarded. It's like making a gas powered wristwatch. It is silly and frankly bad because they're trying to sell it to people who are too retarded to know any better.
Worse, aren't they trying to gain a monopoly in New Jersey because of that retarded law?
Likely yes. NJ changed their law specifically to "encourage the development of smart tunz" because no one wanted to be the company that got pistols banned in an entire state. Now that these gays have a meme gun up and running the NJ government is likely to revert the law and ban all handguns but this peice of shit.
Oh and even without any changes to the law every gun shop in NJ sill legally HAVE to buy one of these and have it avaliable for sale. So these fags are profiteering off gun control laws at the expense of local FFLs in a state where it already costs thousands yearly just to be an FFL. They're assholes using an unconstitutional legal mandate to turn a profit and they and anyone who supports them should be bullied relentlessly.
Yeah I'm thinking meds
Destroying gun rights to own the imaginary boomer fudds. Awesome!
>Posts soijaks because he can't win an internet argument
Actually the state very rarely does it, it's the privatized power companies (mostly PG&E and Edison) that account for most of the blackouts. I live in a city with its own DWP and my power is very reliable and way cheaper than in private territory too.
I just want more videos of mechanically interesting historical guns, half the vids now are hawking new guns or larperator match videos
Really looking forward to some dork not updating his firmware on one of the 3rd party sensors and some asshole with a script kiddy toy quietly perma-disables his shit.
I'm not a total cunt. I understand how not wanting to reduce small child accidents is a good thing. But fucking facial recognition + finger print sensors? Are you fucking kidding me?
I am still waiting for a video on biatlon rifles Ian promissed ages ago and main reason for waiting was "i live in desert there is no biatlon here"
Can't he do a running biathlon (summer biathlon) in that case?
Fuck if i know
these guns are expensive and kind of rare, true, but compared to most of his content it should be very easy to at least get hands on one
maybe he wants to make "look at me, im trying to do biatlon" video right after the tear-down one
might be even more interesting than anothe brutality video, ugh
It literally costs more than an antique broom in VG condition
Why would you spend that much money when a 200$ LCP is just as good
I’d trust the 100 year old Mauser that tried to bite off my thumb and jams when dirty more than bootleg iPhone gun
How's the ol' ball and chain?
She left me years ago
What does that mean?
The c96 doesn't need to charge for 3 hours to fire
That's a very pleasant color on your kitteh.
This is going to be the Hudson H9 2.0
Yes except all the hudson 9s in existence still function to this day. When the company folds and stops updating the firmware all 12 people who bought one of these are going to find it bricked within 6 months.
You're absolutely right but you still type like someone who is visibly angry.
>yeah but in 6 months they will take away your firmware
>no, I'm not going to google 'firmware', that's reptilian propaganda
Good, that's what I want and expect.
>"innovation" in 2023 is just shoving a circuit board and battering into a thing that already exists adding extra points of failure in the process
I hate this future. I want my fucking hover car god dammit
You basically just described modern cars
This is the first gun I've been excited for in a long time. I'd also order a rifle version if they made one.
>smart gun thread
>frogposter loves it
The jailbreak/full auto is going to happen so fast, this thing has an electric trigger. Who said this is a fed dream again?
I ordered mine for the jailbreak.
Since there are no parts modification is a full auto hack legal?
Obviously not legal but practically impossible to detect if done well.
How could the feds even check? The gun will only shoot for me.
Can you get an extended mag? It might be pretty good with one after all
Even better, have it factory reset if someone else picks it up
>captcha: SHOT8
They would probably pay yakuza to accidentally your fingers before the trial to test it
Electrically actuated, or is there just an electronically controlled trigger lock?
Big difference there.
The first one.
According to Ian's video, they went with an actual electrically-actuated firing mechanism, to prevent the obvious bypass potential of an electrically-blocked mechanism.
I remain skeptical, because I genuinely don't understand the reasoning -- if someone steals your gun and gets it to a workbench, they're gonna make it work for them eventually. Whether that's by grinding off the blocking dingus, by reflashing it with custom firmware, or by bodge-wiring the sear solenoid straight to the trigger microswitch makes no difference -- the only reasonable goal is to make it take 15 minutes instead of 15 seconds.
>if someone steals your gun and gets it to a workbench, they're gonna make it work for them eventually.
I don't even like the gun, but that's not even the market. This is aimed at people who want a gun more accessible than a nightstand safe but don't want their toddler an heroing, or people who think in the moment of home defense they might end up in a struggle where somebody takes the gun from them and turns it around.
I'm not a fan of this gun and could make arguments against both the above, but I'm at least understanding what its going for. This isn't meant to defeat the hoards of tech nerd crackheads who are breaking into houses and reinstalling firmware on peoples' stuff.
>This is aimed at people who want a gun more accessible than a nightstand safe but don't want their toddler an heroing, or people who think in the moment of home defense they might end up in a struggle where somebody takes the gun from them and turns it around.
AKA it's aimed at RETARDS and that's why it will fail.
Lol. Making a stupid product to sell to stupid people is a smart business move. You understand how many stupid people there are?
Appeal to what dumbasses want and market it right and you’ll make gorillions.
Those stupid people are the ones who are going to get our rights infringed, so we have every reason to relentlessly and mercilessly mock them and tell them they are stupid and why.
The people you are hating on are going to take your hate as an endorsement of their decision.
This will get pitched as the "mature, adult" choice of gun. It will start to sell well. Other gun companies will start to imitate it pursuing a higher profit margin. In 10 years, all handguns in local gunshops will be $3000 smartguns or Hi-Point. You cannot escape.
Not if nobody buys it. People that don't like guns and gun rights don't buy guns. And people who do won't buy this either. That's why posts like
are so goofy, because they assume there's a demand for this and that people are going to be tripping over themselves trying to get these when nothing in reality supports it. The gun community has verbally rebuked the idea for years and every previous attempt to bring it to market failed probably due to the rebuke. So what good reason is there to think this time is different?
>Not if nobody buys it. People that don't like guns and gun rights don't buy guns. And people who do won't buy this either.
I ordered one lol, which group am I in?
Neither, because you didn't order one.
It's more like this is the first fuel-efficient SUV on the market, and everyone with a pickup truck is feeling threatened. Trucks didn't go away, but some of their features made it to a broader market.
>This is aimed at people who want a gun more accessible than a nightstand safe but don't want their toddler an heroing, or people who think in the moment of home defense they might end up in a struggle where somebody takes the gun from them and turns it around.
No shit. So why the fuck is "to make it harder to defeat on a workbench" a justification for the firing mechanism? You aren't worried about your toddler disassembling it, defeating the interlock, and reassembling it, and when Jaquan gets no results from pulling the trigger, his next move is caving your skull in with the thing, not tinkering with it while fending you off with one arm.
So if they are lying about the reasons for design choices, I don't trust they're being honest about how it actually works either.
>I'm at least understanding what its going for.
Me too. Too bad you aren't understanding posts you reply to.
>tfw we do inadvertently get the Lawgiver
>buy a gun
>remove the only feature it's heingnsold for
Or you could make a glock switch out of 20 cents of sheet metal.
I’m sure it is a great product for the target market: People who want a gun for home defense but never actually practice. I’m super skeptical of the reliability of this gun even with its double ID features, but I feel safer knowing the ‘yards who’d most likely end up shooting themselves with a working gun are the ones buying this brick
Trash gun shill at it again. You will not last you shill. Every shill succumbs and quits. Every stupid poster does too. You know how mamy times some annoying ass says im here to stay get used to it before they never post again lmao its been happening for longer than youve had your job. You will not win.
Yep, he's mad
I’ve watched all the videos. My takeaway is that this is made by a very smart company to appeal to a very stupid audience. We’ve all seen the mouth breathers at the range or in CCW classes who can barely operate their guns. They want the protection afforded by a gun but can’t be assed to practice and are still scared by the very gun they own.
This very smart company interviewed these idiots and made a product they are going to lap up.
Idk why but I'm more and more convinced that there is not a single person on this site who actually knows anything about tech. Don't tell me PrepHole knows anything when all they do is shit fling about Linux while being jobless.
>just now figuring out that PrepHole is retarded
The ironing
>advertising questionable vaporware
>vaporware that could fuck over the entire gun dealer community in NJ
This is the perfect gun to protect my wife’s son!
a gun that only fired when i wanted to would be awesome, and im willing to let everyone else test it for me first
I really wish the Deep State’s division of Big Hat would stop shoving face recognition tech into every conceivable item. It blows my mind that people happily accept facial recognition tech.
>B-b-b-but the gun’s docking station isn’t connected to the internet
>trust me bro
Buy an ad
dystopian nightmare fuel
Dystopian soimare fuel
>Admit some bullshit that I just made up
No
Really struck a nerve, huh. I really didn't think I was that spot on. Now I know
>he replied to every reply.
Really struck a nerve, huh. I really didn't think I was that spot on. Now I know.
oh shoot, I know the guy on the left
You're a moron garden gnome shill arguing in bad faith. Adding electronics to a modern handgun adds exponentially more points of failure while offering little to no benefit. How about YOU admit that your desperate need for people on PrepHole to like this peice of shit gun stems not from its value as a toll but form YOUR irrational fetish for technology to pervade every aspect of your life? Go tape LEDs onto a Glock if you want a cyberpunk gun so bad, retard.
>New exciting Biofire video just dropped!
>New exciting
Yeah you buttfucker. That lingo sounds absolutely 100% PrepHole natural.
Get the fuck off this board you dirty marketing shill.
lol, S&W couldn't even add a built in lock without it fucking up occasionally. Do you really think that adding a bunch of electrical components won't impact the reliability?
>this fucking company is telling people it's okay to leave a loaded handgun in access of children because they stapled an iPhone faced system onto it
Hope they get sued.
what's the point of an electric gun if it doesn't shoot electric bullets
This gun is incredibly niche and kind of dumb. I was promised flying cars, I got ugly guns solving a problem that could be addressed any number of uncucked ways.
Oh well.
The average American can barely afford a brand new car. How the fuck are you incentivize and normalize billions of people purchasing a brand new aircraft? The technology has been there forever, what is holding it back is cost and conventions
https://evtol.news/xpeng-voyager-x2
The problem isn't cost, actually. It's people. The only way we'll ever accept Bubba McFuckstick flying around over residential areas is with some sort of invisible fencing that restricts air traffic to "lanes" and limits your control of the actual craft. That's not as easy as it sounds.
But, back on topic, this gun dumb.
>some sort of invisible fencing that restricts air traffic to "lanes" and limits your control of the actual craft
But I want to see road rage turn into hovercar dogfights.
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morons
You gays have always loved your trap posting, don't pull that shit
Good lord, the amount of shilling Ian is putting into the biofire is off the charts. Will it actually work? I get the feeling that as soon as it's released to the public, someone will find a way to bypass the security measures and make a video about it.
Just pre-ordered mine
Good for Biofire. They know they've got your money, even if their product turns out to be a lemon that can be bypassed with paperclip.
You're thinking of a regular gun safe lock
We will see. Nobody has done a teardown yet. This bitch still uses conventional ammo, which still fires when a hammer hits the primer. It's a first iteration. Surely there's an unintended method of making the gun operational without authorisation.
Retard. Pre-ordering from companies with an established reputation unwise. Let alone this POS.
Me too. I wish they had more color options.
STOP TAKING MY COLOR REEEEEE