never shot a gun before and just looking for something to practice with and have as home defense just in case.

never shot a gun before and just looking for something to practice with and have as home defense just in case. I live in a nice neighborhood, just preparing for the worst.

I know it's cheap, but what do you all think about a Taurus g3c for me and my wife to learn with?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    G3C is a good budget gun. I've had some issues with feeding with one before but after a good lubing it was fine. It can act up with certain JHPs so try different ammo for it.
    Please take a class if you have never shot a gun before or have someone familiar with them show you, it is way too dangerous to trust noobs with themselves

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      G3c, daggar, or bersa thunder if you want large calibers.
      If you buy primarily for plinking then go with tx22, mk vi, buckmark, or sr22 but 22lr has low impact force so you cant fully rely on it past 10yd.
      I agree with anon especially if you are totally new and know no one else to teach you irl.

      thanks buddies. have a great night.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    G3c, daggar, or bersa thunder if you want large calibers.
    If you buy primarily for plinking then go with tx22, mk vi, buckmark, or sr22 but 22lr has low impact force so you cant fully rely on it past 10yd.
    I agree with anon especially if you are totally new and know no one else to teach you irl.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    New Taurus is fine, but I’d go with a Dagger because it’s essentially a Glock so it has a huge aftermarket.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    One thing to consider also is that a handgun is difficult to shoot compared to other guns. Especially when it's a woman shooting it. It's a lot harder to hit a man-sized target across your living room with a handgun than you might expect. Rifles are much easier to use in this sense.

    I just checked and the Keltec Sub2000 gen2 appears to be on a daily deal at Palmetto State Armory at the moment. That's a fine gun that should be very easy for your wife to get a handle on. It uses handgun ammo in a larger frame, so the recoil is greatly reduced. Looks like they're currently $379 before a $100 rebate

    A basic AR-15 is also a good choice

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The store near me has GX4 for $285. I would get the newest generation.

    As the the other anon's have said, Kel-tec Sub 2000 are really cheap right now. They are a decent defense gun and easier to learn then a hangun. Imported shotguns are also cheap. My home defense gun is a handgun, but I have more experience with them than rifle or shotguns.

    If you get a shotgun, get something with a shorter barrel. Or imported bullpup shotgun.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Implying a noob should buy a roach shitgun
      I don't understand why the frick anyone buys cheap imported shotguns when a maverick 88 is also cheap and won't shit it's pants the first time you look at it wrong

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Turkroach shotguns can be perfectly fine. It's fundamentally a very simple weapon. The problem is it's basically impossible to tell apart "totally fine" turkshit from "this is just a piece of rebar glued to a trigger" turkshit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It makes zero sense to me why the cheap turkroach shotguns are even on the market when you can buy used Remington 870's, Mossberg 500's, and the plethora of other older used shotguns like Savage, Stevens, etc for $250-$300 tops. I guess the old saying about the fool & his money is true

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      come on man that pic is ancient

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My brother has a Hi Point and it’a very reliable. Awful ergonomics and heavy, but reliable and cheap.

      Are there better options? Yes. But not in the 150$ price range.

      I have a pair of S&W M&P’s in 9mm and I swear by them.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Show us your wife's feet

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    used glock

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    GC3 is great gun to learn with. There's a lot of videos that show you how to strip it, clean it, and even make work better. Plus, for $60 on Amazon you can buy a indoor laser target and work on your draw at home.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      New Taurus is fine, but I’d go with a Dagger because it’s essentially a Glock so it has a huge aftermarket.

      G3c, daggar, or bersa thunder if you want large calibers.
      If you buy primarily for plinking then go with tx22, mk vi, buckmark, or sr22 but 22lr has low impact force so you cant fully rely on it past 10yd.
      I agree with anon especially if you are totally new and know no one else to teach you irl.

      G3C is a good budget gun. I've had some issues with feeding with one before but after a good lubing it was fine. It can act up with certain JHPs so try different ammo for it.
      Please take a class if you have never shot a gun before or have someone familiar with them show you, it is way too dangerous to trust noobs with themselves

      i am in a similar situation to OP. would it be worth coughing up a little extra for a canik tp9sa mod 2 or should I just go for the taurus g3c and spend more on ammo?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I like the canik more. If you can spare the cash it is not a bad option at all.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I like the canik more. If you can spare the cash it is not a bad option at all.

        Why spend money on Canik garbage when you can get a Beretta APX for a better price?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just save up a little more money and buy something name brand thats trusted and worth having. S&W, Beretta, Glock, etc. can all be found for good deals and they're gonna hold more value and stand the test of time. It's not even that much more money and if you just do the looking you'll see that you can find quality guns for the same price as the lesser quality brands

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It may not be a popular opinion, but since you've never shot a gun before it might be better to learn the basics on a .22 rifle.

    A pistol can be more dangerous in the hands of the inexperienced because its smaller size makes it easier to accidentally point in the wrong direction or towards a body part. The length of a rifle makes this more difficult, and the muzzle usually remains in your peripheral vision so its direction is harder to forget.

    A pistol is also harder to shoot well and to shoot with consistency. Error correction, like learning why you're shooting low or high or all over and then correcting it, is much simpler on a rifle. All the basic shooting fundamentals - safety, consistency, sight picture, sight alignment, etc. - can be learned much faster, more safely, and with less cost and less frustration on a .22 rifle. This foundational experience and knowledge then transfers to other firearm platforms, like pistols.

    So, as a new and completely green shooter I suggest buying an inexpensive .22 rifle like a Savage and a few hundred rounds of CCI Standard Velocity (unless its a semiauto, in which case get the high velocity so the gun functions correctly), and spend time learning shooting at the range.

    After you've shot, say, 500 rounds of .22 over the course of a couple months and you're feeling good about your shooting and safety skills, go ahead and look at getting a handgun. Keep in mind that a new handgun shooter will typically have to shoot a few hundred rounds in the first year to really reach competency. Also remember that shooting - like flying - is a perishable skill, and that it takes more to establish and initially maintain it than it does after you have hours and hours of practice under your belt. For new pistol shooters, I recommend going to the range once or twice a week for the first month, and shooting 100 to 150 rds each range trip. The next 3 months, try to shoot at least 100 rds a month. Then at least 50 rds/month. Good luck!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thank you for the thoughtful response my friend. great idea. have a great Friday and enjoy your weekend.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, it's not popular because it's the wrong opinion. The fundamentals of shooting will carry over but shooting a pistol and a rifle have very different mechanics.
      Training for purpose is more effective than learning how your daddy taught you, with a small .22 rifle over the years then eventually larger rifles or handguns. In a class, they'll drill firearm safety more than anything in a handgun class and you'll shoot at least 100 rounds in the first day. If the instructors are good they'll do more to correct your form than you can especially if you're a beginner.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >never shot a gun before and just looking for something to practice with and have as home defense just in case.
    First time I shot a pistol I was genuinely surprised. 9mm felt like what I expected .357 to feel like and .357 in turn felt very managable compared to my expectations. Personally for hobby/home defense use I'd get something with a stock. More control over the weapon overall even at higher calibers. In that regard .223 Remington was my favourite.
    t.noguns

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't get a piece of shit for your first gun. No resale value and they suck.

    H&K VP9SK for $500. A bit much for your first gun but it currently has a rebate where you can get 4 free magazines.

    Smith & Wesson M&P 9 Shield Plus Thumb Safety BLK 9mm for around $350.

    Walther PPS M2 9mm Luger LE Edition PS Night Sights 3 MAGS $350.

    BERETTA APX A1 COMPACT $450 for tactical version, usually $50 less for regular versions AND there is a $100 rebate on them through March. Best deal out there I would consider this route.
    >https://gunzonedeals.com/product/beretta-apx-a1-comp-tact-9mm-15rd

    Avoid Glock and Glock clones for now. Women have small hands.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm thinking this Beretta deal is pretty good. everywhere I've found that has the full size in stock are 17 round magazines. I'm in VA so no magazine capacity limit, but why so many and is it good to have a big magazine to start learning?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        More bullets is always preferable when in a self defense situation. But it gets harder to conceal the larger your magazine is.

        The anon you're replying to is moronic btw. The Taurus is completely fine as a starter handgun and will hold resale value just as well if not better than the guns that are twice its price with no concrete advantages.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Indeed. More bullets > Less bullets.

          Mind you hollow point is preferred for not shooting your neighbor through the drywall.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The newer Taurus auto's aren't horrible but you'd be lying to anon if you told him anyone goes out searching for a used Taurus (or a new one for that matter lmao). Taurus and Hi-point are in the same bracket, they make handguns for people with a couple hundred dollars who don't know or care about quality. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, hell poor people need guns too but they make no sense to buy if you can save a few dollars and get something a hell of a lot better that people who actually know firearms value

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The newer Taurus handguns are actually impressive with how much they've improved over the last 5 years or whatever, but I don't see the point in buying one when you can spend the same amount or a few dollars more and get something that isn't a Taurus lmao. I hate nu sig, no one told me what to like, when I hear people behind the gun counter talk I cringe 9 times out've 10. I've been autistic about firearms for over 30 years.

            >It's a good gun but why buy that when you could pay $200 more for the same thing with a pretty label?
            jfc

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Don't take it personal Anastacio, there's plenty of EBT Blacks who don't care about quality, they'll keep you nations manufacturer in business. Also, I didn't say they were "good guns', I said I was impressed they brought their quality up and that they weren't horrible. For the money they're not worth it when you can get something that'll hold value and has more aftermarket support, no firearm enthusiast goes out looking for a Taurus lmao. They'd be a good deal for $150 lol. But hey that's just my opinion and it ain't my $ so I don't care, OP will buy whatever he wants at the end of the day and it won't affect any of our lives

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, you finally said something specific. "Aftermarket support". If that's the one and only thing you can think of, then I don't think it applies to OP, who has never shot a gun before. I mean really anon, is it this hard to admit that the cheaper gun is equivalent to whatever overpriced shit you bought? And in terms of holding value, your polymer striker-fired pistol that costs twice as much as other polymer striker-fired pistols is not the sound investment you seem to think it is.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I find myself always telling people interested in cheap POS guns as their 1st purchase the same. I don't understand why people don't just take a few days to look around for good deals on quality guns in their down time or they can literally just save an extra $50-$200 and buy a gun thats actually worth having.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Elaborate on why the Taurus G3C is low quality for a new shooter. Surely you have a concrete reason and aren't just parroting marketing buzzwords from some guy who sold you a handgun for double its actual value?

        Btw, reminder that siggers pay 500+ for a P320 when the army pays under $200 per unit for it lmao

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The newer Taurus handguns are actually impressive with how much they've improved over the last 5 years or whatever, but I don't see the point in buying one when you can spend the same amount or a few dollars more and get something that isn't a Taurus lmao. I hate nu sig, no one told me what to like, when I hear people behind the gun counter talk I cringe 9 times out've 10. I've been autistic about firearms for over 30 years.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't bother with a Taurus that's not a revolver. A Beretta APX or a S&W M&P can be had for cheap and are far better handguns.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Just get a mini Draco and never practice with it and blast any assailants it works for me I've never been murdered before

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Depends on what country you're in

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    G3C is a pretty good option for your purposes. Also how big are your wife's breasts? This is a legit question because it will determine how recoil affects her

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'd personally go with something in the same price range but a more trusted brand. Something like the Smith & Wesson SD9VE chambered in 9mm can be had brand new for around $350 off the budsgunshop site, you can find them for cheaper too. You can find police trade in Glocks, S&W M&P's, etc for good deals. Look around, you can do better than a Taurus. Also, if you're 100% unfamiliar with firearms then i'd recommend getting a 12 gauge pump or a 22lr rifle to start out with at the range. 12 gauge sounds intimidating to the new uninformed shooter but you can buy cheap bulk lowbrass birdshot from places like walmart and the shotgun wont beat your shoulder to death. I feel like a lesser experienced user concerned with home defense would be better served with a 12 gauge anyway, put the bead on the target and pull the trigger at close range and the threat stops. If you pick up a shotgun for home defense just make sure you keep 00 buckshot or #4 buckshot shells in it when home and try them out at the range too so you know what you're working with. Best of luck to you either way OP

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