>NDAA 2022 directed the SecNav to name all future US battleships of the BB(X) series, if any, after National Parks and National Monuments.
>Among the shortlisted names are: USS Mammoth, USS Sequoia, USS Badlands, USS Yosemite, and USS Thunder Basin.
Why not making it submersible?
So the Kinzhal can hit it easier.
The only USN ships that the kinzhal can hit reliably are the hospital ships.
Aegis on steroids?
>2022
>future US battleships
I know this is bullshit but I'm still going to go through the NDAA 2022 because of this
the statue of liberty is a national monument. would a ship named after it be the USS Statue Of Liberty or just the USS Liberty?
U.S.S. banging your mom.
USS Statue of Liberty National Monument Comprising Liberty and Ellis Islands
best name
>USS Thunder Basin
Holy goddamn, we need another battleship.
Second I read "Thunder Basin" I realized I had to urgently write a letter to Congress.
Just looked through the bill and saw nothing related to battleships beyond some stuff about the Iowa museum
>USS Badlands
We really do need it though
USS Shenandoah mite b cool
What i want
>USS Craters of the Moon
>USS Devils Towers
>USS Freedom Riders
>USS Badlands
>USS Crater Lake
>USS Death Valley
What we'd get
>USS Zion
>USS Petrified Forest
>USS Hawai'i
>USS Buck Island
>USS Dinosaur
>USS George Washington Carver
>USS Little Big Horn
>USS Poverty Point
Is there any really retarded American park names like the leafs have Head Bashed in Buffalo Jump?
For national parks.....
Voyageurs maybe? You'd think it's misspelled but it's just named after French-Canadian fur trappers
>USS Dinosaur
if this isn't what you want, you're wrong
I want one called USS Mammoth after Mammoth Cave National Park and I want it to get stuck inbetween two rocks somehow.
>NDAA 2022 directed the SecNav to name all future US battleships of the BB(X) series, if any, after National Parks and National Monuments.
>National Monuments
I for one eagerly await serving on the USS Poverty Point, the USS African Burial Ground, or the USS Saint Francis Dam Disaster.
>when there actually is a sign that says dead moron storage out front
>No USS Montana
Montanabros...
She was commissioned last year bro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Montana_(SSN-794)
Not a capital ship.
>Montana is the only state not to have a battleship named after it.
Good possible names (national parks)
>USS Badlands
>USS Mount Rainier
>USS Olympic
>USS Acadia
>USS Grand Teton
Worst (probably)
>USS Carlsbad Caverns
>USS Virgin Islands
USS Tacoma is more likely than USS Mount Rainier given the political climate
USS Denali wouldn't be too bad
USS Black Canyon and USS Isle Royal wouldn't be too bad either
USS US Virgin Islands incoming
Nah, Virgin Islands is only appropriate as the name for a formation of ships.
Montana shafted again!
for me, it's the USS Big Bone Lick
Well it certainly beats having another ship named after a pedophile. We already have the USS Harvey Milk, can you imagine a USS Joseph Robinette Biden?
>USS Death
I really wanted to see a timeline in where all of the US Navy's ships are name after ominous threatening sounding words or mighty dragons of literature and legend. Can you imagine a massive guided missile destroyer called USS Ancalagon The Black?
uss fauci
embarrassing brainrot
Watch out for the fauci ouchie
I'll allow it on condition its a warship completely dedicated to chemical and biological warfare related duties
>USS Mystery Flesh Pit
I wonder if we might get 'Battleships' at some point in the future. The Zumwalt has a complement of only 140 sailors which is almost half of what a Burke has not really sure what would cause that beyond more streamlined/efficient in design. Get a design large enough to fit some nuclear plants in it, throw on a couple of lasers and call it a day.
I mean, the trouble at the end of the day is that they just don't bring much to the table. Big guns are worse than missiles from every perspective except cost per kg of explosive delivered. Even if we could make a battleship survivable using lasers and RAM, jamming, armor, etc - what purpose would it actually serve?
>What purpose would it serve
Besides being cool as fuck? I would think the selling points would be as follows:
1) Large nuclear powered multi-role craft capable of surface combat. With a combination of large AShMs, advanced guns, jamming, armor, point defenses, and state of the art damage control it has greater survivability than a CVN in a world where "hypersonic" missiles are becoming a threat.
2) Nuclear plant means high energy for better sensors, radar, etc. Could also be a test bed for high energy weapon systems like lasers and rail guns, where the current bottleneck is space and power. A BBGN could alleviate both issues.
3) One more thing to add to the arms race. We bankrupted the Soviets that way, we can wear down the Chinese that way as well.
4) In a world where we might see a lot more naval surface actions and amphibious landings soon, a BBGN could provide important command and control support for close in task forces, again without risking a CVN.
Why are you calling it a BBGN
BBN sure.
If we put enough nuclear plants in it to make the energy production rediculous enough we can probably get enough lasers to more or less do defense for the fleet it's a part of solo.... i honestly don't know but if you give DARPA enough of an energy budget for a ship i'm sure they can get really FREAKY
If we develop bigger, badder, faster, harder fucking anti ship missiles, then I could see a larger platform to carry them on. A BBG with some large VLS cells, larger magazines to carry the larger missiles, a working version of the Advanced Gun System, and tons of point defenses would be entirely kino and within the realm of possibility.
Naming it the USS Thunder Basin or USS Glacier or something would just be icing on the cake.
USS Glaurung, please make it happen.
the neat part about the space issue of the power requirements is the proportion of the ship necessary for power generation gets smaller the larger the ship is
imagine a neo-panamax battleship able to lob shells large enough for internal guidance systems into barely sub-orbital trajectories - you wouldn't need single-shot VLS cells to fill up half the deck and rearming would be significantly easier, while the networked fighters of the carrier group likely to accompany the ship provide targeting information and additional offensive options coupled with a potential to strike at anti-ship missile emplacements even if the carrier is lost
get your ordnance going fast enough and the sonic shock front it creates poses a hazard to incoming missiles, drones, and potentially even fighters - to say nothing of the capacity for mission-specific alternative warheads like flak, or simply DEW in an AA role
you might also be able to reduce some of the combat load of the carrier and allow it to serve as a mobile resupply hub for your surface combatants with some hangar space dedicated to logistical craft. slap a decent helipad on the surface combatant and equip the fleet with some cargo-capable helicopters (or hell, even a VTOL tiltrotor) and you've got, between the carrier and the surface combatants and support craft, a mobile artillery emplacement and airbase with enough logistical ability for an enormous number of potential uses far beyond naval warfare alone
>Scout out enemy ships with your planes from BVR
>have your one BB with fuck off effective Guided rounds fire off 20-30 shots at the angles necessary to have them all landing more or less simultaneously
>They aren't missiles so actually tracking them would likely be rathe difficult i imagine
>Enemy isn't overly concerned because they jet that found them is showing up as fucking nothing on radar so they don't know its there, nearest position they now a US fleet that lacks a carrier is to them is a hundred+ miles away they just need to keep it that way
>All guided rounds land within 2 meters of their target and wipe out all enemy combatants before they even realize they are in range.
Think we'd get yelled at for war crimes again?
well maybe not 500lb jdam tier rounds but m982 Excalibur should be pretty good at this with some engineering to increase range.
No, since youve just described any modern ashm spam just with a bit more masturbation potential.
>the neat part about the space issue of the power requirements is the proportion of the ship necessary for power generation gets smaller the larger the ship is
This is correct.
>imagine a neo-panamax battleship able to lob shells large enough for internal guidance systems into barely sub-orbital trajectories
Replace this whole concept with electromagnetic accelerators that chuck air-breathing hypersonics without a booster charge and it begins to become compelling.
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get your ordnance going fast enough and the sonic shock front it creates poses a hazard to incoming missiles, drones, and potentially even fighters
Getting close enough to get hit by the sonic shock of a projectile in atmosphere means you're probably close enough just to get hit by the projectile.
>allow it to serve as a mobile resupply hub for your surface combatants with some hangar space dedicated to logistical craft
This is not a good idea. The ship is intended to directly expose its location 24/7, why make it any larger or put even more valuable stuff in it? Leave the resupply to the support fleet, that's literally their job. There's still room for an oversized helipad to be justified, though.
That’s actually pretty badass. Park have great names for warships. In fact, we shouldn’t waste this naming convention on a category of ships that we will never have.
>USS Mammoth
so the cannons will be its tusks, like a mammoth tank
>USS Cascade
>1.5x the size of the Iowa class
>two nuclear reactors
>enough lasers to melt satellites in orbit
>nuclear depth charges and the keel required to drop and withstand them
>btw the nuclear depth charges are rocket boosted like ASROC and have a 100 km range
>hypersonic Sprint-esque missiles with nukes on them for emergency area defense
>torpedoes do not worry her as she can take several in the same spot, break in two, seal off and function as two listless but still combat capable ships
>a gigantic mix of APS and CIWS, the APS is mounted on parts of the superstructure that are designed to blow off, the system is capable of nailing a DF-21D without any assistance from missiles or lasers and worst case detonating the missile 5 meters away from the ship's outer hull
>the ship has a basic AI on it that can function with just a minimal crew, allowing it to kick off its sailors, charge towards the enemy, overload the reactor and dump all power into lasers
>the ship has an emergency nuclear self destruct mechanism for those pesky Iranian speedboats
>National Monuments.
Could you imagine if Australian did that
>HMAS Big Banana
>HMAS Giant Prawn
>HMAS Big Merino
>HMAS Dog on the Tucker Box