Navy camo

Why didn't the navy just adopt marpat rather than creating their own camo? Did the marines have that much of a grip on it?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, the marines corps refused to allow the navy to use MARPAT because they wanted it to be their own special unique identifier. The marine corps felt the most recent navy camo pattern was too close to their camo so they actually had them turn it SIDEWAYS so it looks more different from MARPAT. If you look at NWU3 and MARPAT you'll notice the black pieces of the camo go horizontally on MARPAT and vertically on NWU3. Personally I think the navy should use a gray camo because it would look cool. Actually I'm not really sure if rotating NWU3 was forced by the marine corps or if it's something the navy did on its own. But anyway the corp doesn't want anyone else using marpat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >marines conned the navy into wearing weird horizontal camo that no one sensible has ever done

      Hehehe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Marines have the horizontal camo, anon. Navy has the vertical. See

        https://i.imgur.com/y41wIEp.jpg

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Personally I think the navy should do what's right because it would look cool

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it’s called Marine pattern, not sailor pattern.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So what? The air force still adopted OCP despite their uniforms being "army combat uniform".

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Only Green Berets have the right to wear Tiger Stripe, everyone else is a massive homosexual

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My guy, recon Marines slaughtering asiatics wore t stripe in nam as much as the green berets. Half the t stripe manufacturing was in oki where 3rd recon had local tailors custom make them their uniforms. Do a little research before being a sour little b***h. There's probably 15 different versions of t stripe that were worn by soldiers and Marines in nam, with very varied individual patterns, colors and pocket placements.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not to mention all the tiger stripe worn by ARVNs

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Half the t stripe manufacturing was in oki where 3rd recon had local tailors custom make them their uniforms
        It's really interesting to see customized uniforms and they look tailored. Drip? You gotta look good.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Cry harder homosexual
        You're a massive poser

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Inter branch autism, basically. Entire military should be forced to adopt one standard camo pattern (with different color scheme depending on AO) to save taxpayer money. There is zero legitimate reason to allow them to all decide on their own.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >m-muh taxpayer munny
      Frick off moron

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No frick you, poorgay. If I'm forced to pay EVEN MORE money to the fricking feds every spring, the military shouldn't be allowed their autistic whims.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Any money saved is just going to be sent to israelitekraine anyway

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Better than the crayon eaters demanding their own fricking cammies.

            We should have just kept woodland bdu/dcu. Every branch used it and there was literally nothing wrong with it.

            Exactly. It makes perfect sense. If they want to develop a better camo, fine. But they all have to wear it.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >dead russians are BAD
            kys

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Paying for other people's wars are bad. Let the Ukies get over run and then let NATO step in if it's that big a deal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      We should have just kept woodland bdu/dcu. Every branch used it and there was literally nothing wrong with it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >we should have just kept woodland bdu/dc -ACK!

        No frick you, poorgay. If I'm forced to pay EVEN MORE money to the fricking feds every spring, the military shouldn't be allowed their autistic whims.

        You WILL pay or you will go to prison. If you resist, you will be executed on the spot. Simple as.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          cringe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Correct
        [...]
        Correcter

        The camo had lots of problems and so did the uniforms. The branches themselves were pretty different about how the uniform should designed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Camo fine, uniforms can be updated over time.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >camo fine
            M81 had lots of issues, especially in regards to it being too dark for most environments aside from forest regions. It also doesn't do well when it comes to disrupting figures. Overall, its an outdated camo and MultiCam is a good improvement over the m81

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If you're gay you should just say that it takes a lot less time

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Why? Because i was right? M81 isn't that good and I am tired of people memeing it to death. The camo isn't that good when it comes to figure disruption and blending in the environment unless its been faded alot. Multicam improved on it and made it better by adding better colors and patterns for figure disruption

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fact is that as long as your camo has brown and green in it, it works just fine and the attempt to mid/max it is actually the real meme. Hell even desert camo is a decent woodland camo as long as it's a darker brown

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thats the problem. M81 is too dark and the pattern in it does not allow much to disrupt from afar. Multicam did it right by emphasizing on a lighter brown, green and dark brown. Along with making the pattern itself not too big or small.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                M81 is fine. An updated version where the black is replaced with ranger green would be even better. The big vs small pattern is a meme in and of itself and is about how the camo is viewed at distance vs up close (big patterns for far away and small for up close) which means that either are fine

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                While its good for foresty areas, there are still issues with it in other environments. But like you said it would be better if it changed color schemes a bit.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Show me faded woodland that looks good.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous
              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'll take a new uniform, thanks.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Poor taste shmee

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >kept woodland bdu/dcu.
        Correct. Camo should be adjusted for deployment AO. If Marines want to look special in garrison they can wear their dress uniform.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Correct

      We should have just kept woodland bdu/dcu. Every branch used it and there was literally nothing wrong with it.

      Correcter

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >There is zero legitimate reason to allow them to all decide on their own.
      Way to dox yourself there robert

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OK moron, let me help you.
    Every time a new contract is approved with a company to provide uniforms to all of the members of a specific branch of the military a general in charge of procurement becomes a millionaire.
    Does that help you understand ?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Post woodland moronation
    the high trust cohesive m81 america vs the digital pattern post 911 dystopia. you cant refute this the decline started after woodland.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Woodland wasn't that great except for the ripstop HWBDU fabric. The comfort in hot weather was worth the reduced durability, and in that era the AF at least let us have our sleeves shortened at our own expense provided we had enough long sleeves to show at bag drags.

      Lack of short sleeve options is moronic.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Mainly because it was 100% cotton. But you're right, bdus had issues in regards to how the uniform fit in certain environments. NYCO twill was horrible in the hot weather in grenada and the nyco ripstop fabric was later introduced in the 90s. There's also an issue with m81 woodland being too dark and the uniform design needed improvements itself. Which is how you got ACU, MCCUU, ABU and NWU. Its interesting to see the uniforms development.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    NATO Shill

    Why does the navy even need camo in the first place?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Originally intended for the Naval Expeditionary Combat Command (NECC) which is not fleet but brown side. Seabees and EOD were some of the first to get it issued somewhere around 2012. The bees were still using woodlands and 3 tone deserts at that point. bout 2018 the big navy decided that the blueberries were to be phased out for the Type IIIs for all naval personnel. So the navy looks uniform, but NECC commands still get desert combat boots that look great with the Type II/III. Fleeters on the other hand have to wear the black leather boots and they look like total dorks
      >picrel, seabee during the uniform transition

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Seabees and EOD were some of the first to get it issued somewhere around 2012.
        And now EOD all wear Multicam to be different.
        >Fleeters on the other hand have to wear the black leather boots and they look like total dorks
        Not necessarily. At this point only students at schoolhouses are required to wear black boots with NWUs.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >At this point only students at schoolhouses
          what a travesty, now the only distinguishable difference from fleeters and NECC are warfare pins the seabee insignia
          >so you def stood out
          I remember going through CES before the blueberries were phased out, and I wore my one pair of issued Type IIIs the entire time

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >seabee insignia
            It's not like it's inconspicuous...

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        From 2011 to 2018 if u wore type 3s it meant u were possibly doing something interesting or in an interesting command that was land/expeditinary based. Riverboat guys used to also wear em before they got folded into msron, so you def stood out.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Correct!
          >was expeditionary from 2013 to 2018
          I loved wearing my type 3s around Pearl Harbor. It was like I was magic to people.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good question. It’s not like the Navy has ground forces or anything.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why are they all wearing FRACUs? This is a weird picture.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most likely Individual Augmentees attached to the Army during the GWOT

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That makes sense, but still weird considering they already issue AOR2.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Because they're deployed and should be wearing the FRACU, but some people have got to be special.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >should be wearing FRACUs
          Shouldn't they be wearing FROGs rather than FRACUs?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      thanks i hate it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those smiles make me think they’re all fricking.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >how does the grift of defense contracting work

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh defense contractors
      More has to do with interbranch rivalry than anything.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The navy having a unique camo is stupid. Give UCP to deployed shore guys, adopt pic related for everyone else

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *OCP

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's basically the new underway/ship's company uniform replacing the blue coveralls.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        have this, but also have a MAS Grey cut for Seabees/VBSS/Riverine patrol/ other specialized groups and have sailors that actually need camo use MARPAT (literally force congress to do this) or OCP

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I just did a whole deployment as VBSS and we just wore NWUs for everything. They were pretty ass

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What rating?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >another new navy uniform
        >mysteriously remove the shoulder pockets that everyone liked
        >still keep the flag patch velcro angled 45 degrees down
        What was Chief Executive Officer for the Navy Exchange Service Command (NEXCOM), Robert J. Bianchi, Rear Admiral, Supply Corps, U.S. Navy (Ret.) thinking?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          As of now, they're only replacing the coveralls, for shipboard/underway wear. I personally wouldn't mind having them replace the NWUs.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/fcY0T4r.gif

            >another new navy uniform
            >mysteriously remove the shoulder pockets that everyone liked
            >still keep the flag patch velcro angled 45 degrees down
            What was Chief Executive Officer for the Navy Exchange Service Command (NEXCOM), Robert J. Bianchi, Rear Admiral, Supply Corps, U.S. Navy (Ret.) thinking?

            >replace the NWUs
            those shoulder pockets were great when wearing kit. maybe NECC could keep em while fleet does whatever

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The original idea for the NWU was that it can hide the stains better.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Camo for people on a ship is a sign of bureaucracy.
      One of the biggest dangers they face is falling into the ocean and not being found in time.
      Camo that blends into the ocean just makes that more likely.
      Even in war men end up in the water, and if the ship goes down everyone does.

      In reality the should all be wearing bright colors. But that wouldnt look stylish, intimidating, or professional. Or sexy when they are in port looking for some action.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you moronic?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >In reality the should all be wearing bright colors. But that wouldn't look stylish, intimidating, or professional. Or sexy when they are in port looking for some action.

        It could, if a person with the right vision designed the uniform. Lots of traditional things we consider cool looking now in uniforms originally had a practical reason for their inclusion.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        look at all that camo

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Thus homie has never heard of ECP, topside rover or Chief of the Guard watch

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fricking HATE AOR2. Looks like shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's the black that ruins it.

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Navy
    >wearing camo to blend with the water when falling overboard

    RETVRN TO TRADITION

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're called coveralls sweaty get a grip

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one in this thread understands just how tiring it is to do the bear crawl exercise, especially in the sand. The US military is the best in the world when it comes to making up basic/simple exercises that absolutely kick your ass.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No one in this thread understands just how tiring it is to do the bear crawl exercise, especially in the sand.
      We did it in the snow during morning conditioning practices for high school wrestling.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Damn I wish I didn't wait until my late 20s to start exercising

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bear crawl is exceedingly easy. Other animals walk on all fours. Just trot or bound like they do.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Bear crawl is exceedingly easy. Other animals walk on all fours. Just trot or bound like they do.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Always face down ass up couldn't possibly turn that down.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do sailors even need camo? Just wear your whites, or a jumpsuit for when they're not practical.
    The tacticool service uniform could be reduced to a situational suit without majorly impacting performance and saving billions in cost from procurement and maintenance.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Its for their own expiditionary units and also for identity purposes. Although the expeditionary force use FROG/CRYES rather than regular utility uniforms.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >the navy
        >own expiditionary units
        American military branches are just confusing. What is even the point of marines when the navy needs to have their own separate naval infantry?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's called not being poor

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >let’s create a separate branch of the military with its own air, ground and naval forces just because it’d be cool
            I guess that’s as good a reason as any.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because the navy provides the medical, comms, and defensive weapon platforms for the kids

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Think of marines as amphibious storm troopers, and naval infantry as marines in the classical sense

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Because why not?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The whites are NEVER practical. You have to walk around like you’re made of glass when you wear them.
      Otherwise they’re going to the cleaners.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I see a shitstain

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I dont see any scuffs on those boots sailor, you better be in your inspection uniform

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          forgot pic

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Boots still looks good.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Those look like my legs

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Short answer: Yes. AOR2 is just a green version of MARPAT turned 90°. The vertical pattern works bad in negative space.

    Long answer: The only Navy personnel that can wear MARPAT are units/personnel attached to Marine units. This applies to the medical branch (which provides med services to the Marines) and corpsmen. These people are either Blue (serving with the Navy) or Green (attached to Marine units). So between MARPAT being patented by the Marines and that the only personnel allowed to wear MARPAT is navy personnel attached to USMC units, the Corps simply said no.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marines are the reason the US has gay digital patterns should gave stuck to woodland also marpat looks like cheap Chinese shit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Digital pattern doesn't look bad depending on the color/pattern scheme. The U.S. army tested multiple camos and they went with UCP instead of what is now known as MultiCam. Because the army wanted to get on the trend while also looking different from the marines. Even though the army also wanted to adopt the pattern until the marines said no. But either ways, we almost adopted the scorpion pattern, which is a predecessor to MultiCam and OCP.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because camo autism and almost everyone above an O-3 is useless and this is what they debate in officer school and do in officer meetings when they could be doing something useful

    navy camo pattern should be bright orange, because 99.99999% of the navy is in a job that requires a class 2 orange vest anyway. The other .000000001% get blue digicam or marpat, and teal marpat for green water commando raids

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally the only thing a marine fears is not getting special attention for being a marine. They’d tear down heaven and Earth before accepting a shared uniform.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chinks have the best navy camo. It’s distinctive, on brand, and looks cool.
    Frick khaki. Give me BRUE

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >trigger finger

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