Navajo code talkers

Why did they stay classified until 1968?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because we kept using it until 1968. It was just that useful.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we kept using it until 1968
      But all the code talkers paraded for the media were from World War II.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That was the only war celebrated by 1968.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What's this AI garbage?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Right? The fuck?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        With the absolute wealth of historical images, I don't get why people use AI in historical context, especially in "historical" youtube channels. It undermines the whole intent.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          To further polute what is real and what is not.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          real pictures are all copyrighted.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This

          To further polute what is real and what is not.

          They know exactly what they're doing.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Basically, slopspammers think the slop they've made is amazing and everyone surely wants to see the results of a lazy prompt, so they post the AI slop instead of a decent normal image.

          Can you just use a Hungarian translator to figure out what they're saying?

          Yes, but Ukraine has access to a lot more of them. Ukraine has a large quantity of Hungarians available by default because they're part of the country, whereas Russia would have to get some from Hungary or Romania, hope they actually like Russia (most don't, it's just Orban being a cuck), and THEN hope they're willing to go to Russia (unlikely, because the odds are good they'd just get used as cannon fodder by retarded generals).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The tactical Magyar gap is too large

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Neat Riesing!

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cause americans fear giving props to groups that can use those props for their own political purposes, murican government was still stealing native kids back then so can't have native war heroes to complain about it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wrong, the main reason is the fear of letting soviets/Japanese learn about it. The language itself was efficient because it was not well known and isolated to the point that not even other nations can decipher it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Japs and Russians could have developed an equivalent system using Ainu or any number of Siberian minority languages (many of which were as or more poorly attested as Navajo but with a solid pool of Native speakers to draw from in the mid 20th century).
        So makes sense that they wouldn't publicly disclose this system until it was made obsolete by more modern encryption techniques.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Still works!

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Can you just use a Hungarian translator to figure out what they're saying?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              They’re probably speaking in slang and shorthand so only an actual speaker can help. Probably works for short term comms because it’s difficult to get the message to and back from a human translator before it’s useless

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There was some WW2 Hungarian POW captured by Russians, they couldn't understand and psychiatrically hospitalized the guy for 50 years.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      butthurt homosexual

      What's this AI garbage?

      that what they look like

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh god here we go, the shitskins are on a social justice crusade again, everyone hide their kids lest they get raped

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No one could understand what they were saying

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Q: what did the injun girl say the first time she had sex?
    A: hang on dad you're crushing my smokes

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    American feathee Indians are great and a noble race, theyre better than arab, curry, slavic, asian americans by miles and they

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Firewater
    >Smallpox blankets
    >Shit treaties
    The best lesson my indian grandfather taught me was never to trust or take anything from the feds.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I thought the lesson was don't trust the white man. In many cases frontier types went against federal policies and laws.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s complicated

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most of the Whites who were nice to them were recent Irish and German migrants. There was a lot written back to Europe by these two groups about how shitty the Anglo Whites treated White migrants and non Whites. The Spanish wrote a lot about this too.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/uxp9suH.jpg

        It’s complicated

        Indians and white settlers could and did get along. On the local scale the arrival of white settlers wasn't all that different from just having another tribe in the area. Sure they had guns and strange clothing and weird ideas like "owning land", but they usually had to farm and hunt to support themselves in the same way the natives did, so to a certain extent they could be understood and treated as equals.

        Which isn't to say that there wasn't tensions and violence, but they were, at least initially, similar in scope and scale to the fighting they engaged in with other tribes already, so it was a kind of violence they were familiar with.

        Of course it never remained that way and eventually, inevitably, they would run into the organized and industrialized government that backed the settlers, and that was when they started to get the shaft repeatedly and mercilessly.

        The white man fucked them over but the feds were usually the ones who actually bent them over a barrel and gave them the business so to speak, the rest just stood there and watched.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Sayge

    >AI image thread for a real, documented historic group with plenty of photos
    Why do this?

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]

    Seething subhuman detected. More higher races of man:
    Māori
    Nuba
    Hawaiians
    Samoans
    Mongolians
    Kalash
    Japanese
    Tibetans
    Altaians
    Tuvans

    And some more, lesser known races from various mysterious locales…

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >maori
      >samoans
      >higher races of man
      they're dumb as shit and if KFC disappeared for a month they'd all starve to death

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They survived long before mass production 🙂

        And it doesn’t seem like you even understand what I said. Did you know races could descend into barbarity? Or conversely ascend into higher life?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Surr, but at least feather indians are a noble solar race

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because making your secret code language public knowledge isn't a good idea if you want to keep using it.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    probably didn't want anyone else using the idea back when it was useful. Eventually, they realized the secret was out and it was a bad idea to rely on just speaking in a language the enemy is unlikely to know if they've had a few years to figure it out.
    Having actual encoding is significantly more secure than just relying on the listener not being able to understand it. Eventually, if you use the same words for the same sets of actions, a codebreaker will get to it. this was around the time a lot of espionage actions were being coordinated by number station system, so it was significantly easier and more secure to switch over to real encryption of signals for the military than rely on a caste of Indians.
    This is a problem for any group that's expecting to go up against another with dedicated codebreakers, if you use the same method to communicate an action the codebreakers will learn about enough times, they will eventually crack it. So all codes nowdays need to be changed frequently, which is best done via numerical encoding, not a whole new language.

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