I've been prepping here in Japan, and storing canned goods and pasta, rice, peanut butter, coffee, etc. However, I just ordered some MREs from Amazon. They're pretty expensive - $30 per or so per MRE. But they seem ideal. Why not just buy hundreds of MREs for prepping, as they would be much cheaper in the U.S.?
because they suck
Supplement with fresh grown vegetables.
The calories are the important thing.
Just get 100 kilograms of sugar and 100 kilos of whey protein
fpbp
/thread
enjoy your glorified Chef Boyardee, OP
waste of money, prepping is a meme
Ehh, look at Ukraine and tell them that.
If you lived in a major city in Ukraine you just had to take a train to leave and then frick off to a EU country for gibs
But I’m assuming this Jap anon does not want to flee Japan or is prepared in the case he cannot flee in a SHTF.
Like if China where to perform a blockade or North Korea strikes down planes and boats.
That’s why you invest in a country where you can arm yourself and shoot the poorly armed looter using a shitty hammer you absolute ass.
When I have the rifle and you don’t you make me the fricking hashbrowns
Japs are hiveminded so society wouldn't breakdown very quickly like in America. That's why they were able to recover from a simultaneous earthquake, tsunami, and radioactive disaster quick
This though. Honestly it’s going to be hard with the rare Yazuka and American gangster to break japans spirit.
Problem is that China,Russia and even North Korea if desperate enough for Japans food will attempt to invade and raid the countryside for food.
Thus the need for some sort of ability to fight back by yourself or hide until it’s all over.
I will gladly butcher and hunt any chinks in Japan in exchange for getting to kill chinks in Japan.
China's got 70% of the entire world's grain stockpiles right now.
Good advice here OP, start a monkey eradication service and apply for a gun permit. I think all you can get in Japan is shotguns but idk.
Sure if you were a fricking israelite.
Bullshit. If I was in Ukraine I'd be going around raping and stealing every ones food and wasting it. I don't even care. Don't try and White knight anon, no one wants to hear it. Fact is, savage animals like me will always take your shit and turn it into my literal shit.
You want your freeze dried hash browns back? I'll give em back when I'm done with em..
Kek based
imagine not grappling those free weapons they where giving away then just going rogue
Why would you rape food you fricking dangling modifier?
God dam it, I'll modify your dangler you fricking nerd. I'll go door to door taking food from weaklings like you. If there is an apocalypse (shit sounds so cash) I'll probably gain weight from all the preppers I destroy. I'll be eating well, and you'll be in the corner begging for food with a broken butthole.
Post firearms with timestamp, unless your packing heat your not getting shit fat ass.-
Oh yeah, if there is ever an apocalypse I'll be posting screenshots of your emaciated body. Don't worry, you'll be able to eat the bodies of other weaklings who I have already wasted for their sweet dried rations.
Don't worry bro, I'll let you keep the little tobacco sauce bottle from your MREEEE so you can eat your fiends with flavor
Ehhhhhhhhhhhh goyslop zogbot
They could get away with mountainhouse instead of the MRE's and they'd be fine. People were given them convince store food and shit.
Did you seriously live through COVID and somehow make out on the other side still thinking preping is a meme?
I was down to my last roll of 3 ply toilet paper before more showed up in stores again at the start of 2020. I saved that roll and I keep it under my bathroom sink by itself to this very day. I call it the Roll of Perseverance
I've been wanting a bidet since long before coof bullshit, but after that people I know who were hesitant are way more open to them now.
no need to sacrifice a sock in the shower.
>I was down to my last roll of 3 ply toilet paper before more showed up in stores again at the start of 2020. I saved that roll and I keep it under my bathroom sink by itself to this very day. I call it the Roll of Perseverance
I wash my ass in one of those Jap style toilets. It's quite nice, once you get used to it.
I bought a bidet at the start of the pandemic. I probably spent the equivalent of what a panic-shopper would have purchased ($80), but I'm happy with how clean I am.
whats your TP usage like?
half?
third?
how long does a 12 pack last you?
Pardon, I meant to say that what I spent on the bidet was the equivalent of a toilet paper panic shopper would have spent for their TP. I use 0 TP, and never have since I purchased the Bidet.
>he doesn't have a shart blaster
gross
How do you dry your ass though? Sure the bidet will clean your ass, but then you have a wet ass inside of a shit covered one. Its clean but you can't just pull up your drawers and pants and call it good can you? Given you're another /misc/ack I figure you have some dedicated ass towel but in reality you probably just dry your cheeks with the hand towel and hope nobody catches on
2 ways:
1. bum-drying rag (previous bathtowel that you swap out consistently anyway)
2. Bathroom air vent leaves a warm (or cool) dry (depending on the weather)
Ah so I was close with the dedicated ass-towel. Granted we all use one like that post-shower its really no worse than that I suppose
My wife has those little washcloths that I've occasionally used too, but the children love to use them in bathtime. I thought "that's a good way to risk pink-eye" and discontinued
Man that reminds me of when I was 10 and my little sister picked up pinkeye from school and then everyone else besides me in my family got it too. They'd all use facecloths and I never used one because to me the idea of using some mystery mini towel to wash in the shower always struck me as nasty when you're literally standing under a high pressure stream of hot water and have real soap so I never used them preferring straight on water blast+soap. After a sudden visit to the doctor for some topical cream to stop the pinkeye tight fisted dad splurged on personal washcloths for everyone but me as I never used nor wanted onew
and right there has to be a bidets strongest selling point.
no need to keep paying the toilet paper israelite.
>whats your TP usage like?
zero, wet washcloth works better
you're just jealous because food costs half your salary.
only a brain-dead moron thinks being prepared for an emergency is a waste of money.
restock and then you fricking eat the food before it goes bad. is that such an alien concept?
Learn to actually grow your food their jap bro.
But seriously why Japan of all countries?? your not allowed to own any weapons so bandits and raiders are going to steal your shit, and it’s unpredictable in weather to be farmable???
Buddy, they obviously farms, come on.
Yeah but like actual long lasting food other then rice and barley.
Japan-anon will need a small family or unit to actively farm his land with those kind of crops and he will also need to be prepared for bandits on this kind of land.
Say what you want about the Japanese, once society gets to “pepper was right” level he will be fighting Chinese,Korean, American and Japanese bandits willing to take his shit.
But to op, MrEs are okay, but just attempt to invest into more food you can grow and forage by yourself
Japan seems more organized and everyone seems more inline with preserving their own people. It's the type of society that the old will be more likely to sacrifice themselves for the greater good (rather than the complete focus on self-preservation that all Western countries will have) As long as China doesn't decide to nuke the whole Island as revenge, I think Japan would fair pretty well. The only problem is they are definitely going to have supply issues as they import everything. They can just forget about oil, for example.
>Japan seems more organized and everyone seems more inline with preserving their own people. It's the type of society that the old will be more likely to sacrifice themselves for the greater good (rather than the complete focus on self-preservation that all Western countries will have) As long as China doesn't decide to nuke the whole Island as revenge, I think Japan would fair pretty well. The only problem is they are definitely going to have supply issues as they import everything. They can just forget about oil, for example.
Yes. Everything this guy just said. Same problems as WW II if shit hits the fan, but they look after each other like we do not in the West.
My mother was born in Karafuto in 1931.
Grandfather figured the war was unwinnable and moved the family to Tokyo in 1942 once the Americans got involved. Buddy, don't fool yourself. The Japanese like many others take to eating each other when shit gets really real. The horror stories my family told me, especially in the last months of the war would turn your darkest shit white. Sure, the Japanese do stick together more than most societies.. But when that fails, as a result it fails more than in most societies. Even pretty far into it being obvious they were going to lose, there was good social cohesion. But when it got extremely bad, and it was obviously do or die, no slack and every person for themselves: Things. Went. To. Shit. In many respects, my grandfather got it right. Where he got it very wrong was not buying another farm when he sold the one on Karafuto. But he thought Tokyo would either hold or at least be taken by Americans and not the fricking Soviets. But those with land and food did not suffer anywhere as badly as those without land. And no. My grandparents could not turn to family. Grandmother was Ainu, grandfather mostly Japanese (Dutch diplomat great great grandfather that shipwrecked pre Meiji era) was a man of station until married my grandmother. I'd sneak into Russia if I were you and survive in all that Wildlands they have. Seasonally get on the coast for sea resources, then retreat back into wilderness and terrain.
Got any horror stories anon
The USA will become The Road
>unabridged
>It's the type of society that the old will be more likely to sacrifice themselves for the greater good
Japan is still masked 24/7 because of fragile old people
>Japan is still masked 24/7
It's just part of their culture. Watch a israeliteTube video from the 1960s on Japan, and you can see Japs wearing white masks still while walking down the street. It's ingrained in their culture, not ours.
>I think Japan would fair pretty well. The only problem is they are definitely going to have supply issues as they import everything. They can just forget about oil, for example.
In a SHTF scenario Japan reverts to the beast law. There is just way too many people and not enough food production, on the whole they're WAY beyond their carrying capacity for the islands and desperately need to shed like 50% of the population or more to reach homeostasis with the environment. Japan is a disciplined culture but when you have 1000 mouths to feed and enough for 70 people when rationed out to just above starvation level calorie intake -- you see the inner demons appear. That far east in general is way over its carrying capacity, India, China, Japan, Indonesia, and a few more I'm probably forgetting, all of them import vast quantities of food because they cram into these mega-cities.
>everyone seems more inline with preserving their own people
which is why they'll kill gaijin weeb homosexuals first
plants are useless
Japan is vastly overpopulated to what it can naturally support without industrialization. If SHTF 90% of japanese are dead within months.
dont worry, Hitomi Tanaka's massive mammaries will provide sustenance for many many people
Pretty sure you could get a bulk deal on mre surpluses else where.
MRE's are only delicious when you're starving and on deployment
99% of prepping is
> i ordered X from amazon
> we reviewed the top 10 best X for survival
> what X should i buy
> look at my massive pantry full of X (replies: ooh nice i wish i had as much X as you do!)
1% of prepping is
> me and my friends went on a 5 mile run today
Based. Buying gadgets and buckets of food only covers one aspect of survival.
Fitness and practice should be your #1.
Learn to hunt, fish, preserve meats, store grains and beans.
Learn basic electrical skills, machines, engines, gardening. Practice with a fall garden, gutting and filleting fish, curing meat.
Work your cardio. You'll need it. A million products can't save you.
running is a waste of calories, im bloatmaxxing for SHTF
Yeah, I'm sure that's the reason you're a fatass
>*dies of starvation*
I run two miles every day, come at me
Why spend thousands of dollars prepping when I could just raid the grocery store when shit goes down? is right
Because everyone else is going to do the same. Same with hunting.
Why not raid people instead? People are good eating. The Ukies sure like pork for a bunch of piggies.
Because you risk dying in combat against armed fighters???
Like if your goal is to survive your going to need to shun needless combat (but do get armed for self defense)
Sure it will work in cites but against people who take up arms against you it’s a bad idea.
>1% of prepping is
>me and my friends went on a 5 mile run today
This is correct. If you're actually serious about prepping for survival, it is imperative that you have good cardio and strength. In my opinion, all of the tacticool gear in the world can't replace good old fashioned athleticism.
Good cardio and strength needs to be combined with those 5 guys to have your back when things get ugly. 5 guns are way better than one. Having a stash of prepped food by yourself just makes you a target.
>Good cardio and strength needs to be combined with those 5 guys to have your back when things get ugly. 5 guns are way better than one. Having a stash of prepped food by yourself just makes you a target.
That's what they said about Bosnia. The families that grouped together did better than just one family in a house. Like 24 hour watch rotation. So cultivating your neighbors makes sense, make sure they are preparing also, otherwise they are going to be at your door.
>not being the daytime sniper
One thing about Bosnia is the amount of killing happened in a homogenous areas. If shit goes down here, Black folk, spics, and the rest of the trash will 100% slit throats as they have zero loyalty towards their communities.
Anon 10kg of fat will give you over a months energy, buy some salt and a water purifier
Mountain house are better
American MREs are garbage-tier. If you’re going to buy a shitload of those at least buy them from a country which produces quality rations like Spain.
Nice
Nice.
What's wrong with Shogun-style rations? Rice and miso keep well for a long time.
They also cost about triple of what US MREs go for. Buy powdered milk, eggs and #10 mountain house cans are better options than MREs. This is coming from someone who owns 3 cases of MREs and has camped using both MREs and freeze dried food like mountain house
Pythagoras said beans tastes like semen. Wonder how he knew
He probably tasted his own jizz like a proper scientist.
The classical Greek education model had it so the tutor sodomized the student, the idea being that the student would learn and get good grades out of "love" like some oily hirsute old man in a toga putting himself in the student's ass is some kind of real relationship.
>CAPTCHA GAYK4
literal propaganda
greeks despised homosexuality
Correct. Man on man gay stuff was hated, however queero pedo teacher on boy/rich guy on teen dude homosexualry was considered noble and encouraged. Modern archaeologists had a 150+ year running campaign to hide the pederasty uncovered in classic Greek society. They couldn't imagine all those great philosophers and historical figures were all groomer creeps like that
oh wow, thats about 1$ worth of food, tops !
https://mountainhouse.com/collections/emergency-food-and-survival
This is what backpackers and hunters use. They even made rations.
>https://mountainhouse.com/collections/emergency-food-and-survival
They do not ship to Japan.
Ok, I'm Japanese-American, 7 years U.S. Army 4 of them as an 18D. Also a farmboy, my Japanese relatives from Sakhalin back when it was Karafuto, mother survived the last losing years of the war in Tokyo. I can tell you how to survive there. Just tell me what city you're in and answer some basic questions and I can tell you what will work pretty much no matter what.
>Why not just buy hundreds of MREs for prepping, as they would be much cheaper in the U.S.?
I have a couple boxed of them in case of hurricanes. MREs are pretty easy to get here.
They are kind of expensive even in the USA. Just avoid the First Strike rations, they're like 90$ and crap.
You need to pray. That's the only thing that can save you. Saint Paul Miki pray for us
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLwJ8L1fp4N1DM8gMO7rrNI7NSymKNrk2-
Why not just pray to Jesus directly? Why waste your time with secondary links when you can talk to the actual Big Man up top directly?
But yea, we should be praying just not to anyone else but Jesus
I dunno, why do you pray with other people for?
You can't live on MRE's because they stop you up. If you eat two MREs for the day, the next day you will give birth to the biggest turd you have ever shat in your life.
t. deployed '03,'04, and '05
I couldn't stand the food in the chow tent so I thought I could just eat the MREs. Big mistake.
Black person what?
I ate rations for 6 months straight
About 3months in we started getting a loaf of bread and a hot meal 1 a day for about a month
And there where two days of r&r where we had meat
You should’ve drank the local water to balance it out.
I was overseas when Covid hit. Logistics went to shit and all we had were pallets of Menu A. Really fricking stupid that they don't group the A and B together. But I kept semi-regular by going for the chili with beans, southwest beef and black beans, and vegetarian taco crumbles. Those had a decent amount of fiber in them. Lots of water too. Frick the bread though, crackers less so as I'm still a bawd for government cheese.
But US MRE'S aren't the best in quality, taste, cost, or lifespan. Go with freeze dried shit like Mountain House.
Clearly you never served, lying Black person frick.
The red packaged gum is a laxative. have a nice day pussy.
Do you really need those in the Origami prefecture?
Only chads will get this reference.
>Nice hiss.
Ask yourself this: Are you willing to live in a world with no internet, no TV, no video games? A world where people will be actively hunting down food/shelter, and if you have it then they will kill you for it? If the answer is no, then don't bother prepping. Just enjoy what little time you have left. It won't be a "phase" of starvation. You will have to rise from the ashes. You will be farming and hunting for the rest of your life. *Maybe*, just maybe, your great grandkids will get to live like you are living today. Maybe.
nah, if there's a collapse now, there's no coming back from it. Any civilization that rises will get to medieval levels of tech at best. Back when the industrial revolution began you could pretty much just poke a shovel into the ground and get easily available energy in the form of oil and coal. Now we have to spend a frickton of effort just to get that shit. So if SHTF, the next 100 years are going to be fricking brutal, and then it will get worse. But that's probably better than the alternative of zogworld
>nah, if there's a collapse now, there's no coming back from it. Any civilization that rises will get to medieval levels of tech at best.
We've had the same size brain case for 250,000 years. Some think there's been advanced civilization before.
The Chicxulub meteor struck the Yucatan peninsula, it was 6 miles in diameter and traveling 43,000 mph, it vaporized a 500 mile radius, the blast wave went 1000 miles. The firestorm burned 3/4 of the planet. The Tsunami was 500 ft high and went all the way to Africa. Some of the debris bounced back and escaped gravity. The resulting debris cloud blocked out the sun for 10 years and 80% of flora and fauna went extinct.
MREs are overrated trash that will get you through a week or two of isolation but you need real sustenance besides that. Each one is ~1000KCal, not nearly enough
t. Enlisted zogbot
You're rationed though.
A consumer can ration themselves with more calories.
my mom dehydrates food. cheaper and lasts 100x longer
1. dollar crash to oblivion
2. first thing a silver chad does is see a peice of metal go up by a lot.
3. goes to a store to buy food with the expensive metal. turns out they cant accept it because they only accept CBDC.
4. silver chad becomes a chud and throws the worthless silver out the door.
5. the silver is picked up by another chad who learns it has a lot of value. takes it to the bank but learns they are only offering CBDC where you need a vaccine in order for that shit to work in the first place.
The moral of the story is prepping is a meme and it makes the silver chads and the crypto chads look smarter
silver has a lot of practical application beyond currency
white piggu go home
Hard tack
they used to be much cheaper. pre covid i could get 1 for $8, or even a case of 12 for about $60-70. they should be viewed more as a treat or something fun, theres longer lasting and cheaper options available. me and my buddies like to take them when we go camping every now and then
>take them when we go camping
That's what I was thinking. I just ordered some but might go camping on my motorbike and take a few. They seem ideal for that.
If you can buy beef jerky without soya in it its probably better than zogslop tbh
Lmao, MREs are going for $30? You couldn’t pay me to ever eat another one of those things again. Just go to the grocery store and buy bags of beans and rice. They keep for 3-4 years, and will give you everything you need and a lot more of it for a fraction of the price of one MRE. You could eat well for two weeks on $30. MREs are terrible. Don’t waste your money
>Just go to the grocery store and buy bags of beans and rice.
I've done that, too. I have bags of rice here. I also bought bags of curry and pasta sauce. The MREs seem ideal, though. It's all in 1 meal. No need to frick around with everything.
MRE's are TEMPORARY combat rations. On top of that, you cannot get the longer storing and more balanced actual military rations. Those civvie versions will frick you up if you try to survive on them for a week solid. You'll also be very disappointed in how short their shelf life is.
>Those civvie versions will frick you up
yeah, i wondered if they were civvie bullshit. They look like Department of Defense, but I guess it might be civvie crap.
Bruh if you aint on a small island; you fricked. I’m calling the Daimyo. “The peasants are hoarding food again!”
MRE is a pure shit tho. Do you like shit? I dont
they aren't cheap and they suck. if you normally prep, then you either need to donate to rotate your stock or you need to eat it and if you eat all of the mres from your prep you will see why they're not a great idea. unless you plan on hitting the road with your supplies just buy some instant noodles and canned goods. I put together my own mres a while ago too and I bought foil packets of tuna, salmon, pop tarts, stuff like that. the best stuff to prep is just stocking your pantry with an extra bit of whatever foods you normally eat
>I put together my own mres a while ago too and I bought foil packets of tuna, salmon, pop tarts, stuff like that. the best stuff to prep is just stocking your pantry with an extra bit of whatever foods you normally eat
Good advice. I agree.
As other anons have said, I would look into growing your own food and owning land. Learn how to preserve food properly and how to make things from scratch. You can hunt in Japan - learn how to and take the necessary steps now. And then obviously learn how to fish (using multiple methods). Also make sure you're fit. The majority of people who will die in a society-ending event are those who can't feed or take care of themselves.
You can actually buy rural land really cheap right now, some are going for free as a matter of fact since theres millions of vacant homes as nobody wants to live in the country. Only catch is a shit ton of wild boar have occupied the area and are dangerous as hell, ive seen one kill two stupid adults in under 2 minutes
>You can actually buy rural land really cheap right now, some are going for free as a matter of fact since theres millions of vacant homes as nobody wants to live in the country. Only catch is a shit ton of wild boar have occupied the area and are dangerous as hell, ive seen one kill two stupid adults in under 2 minutes
All lies. All bullshit.
>https://www.rethinktokyo.com/free-houses-japan-countryside
Two of my cousins got land in Japan that way. As I suspected you are a fricking English teacher over there and you don't qualify for shit. The free land and homes is absolutely real. Just not for Gaijin like you.
>As other anons have said, I would look into growing your own food and owning land. Learn how to preserve food properly and how to make things from scratch. You can hunt in Japan - learn how to and take the necessary steps now. And then obviously learn how to fish (using multiple methods). Also make sure you're fit. The majority of people who will die in a society-ending event are those who can't feed or take care of themselves.
More good advice. True, if you can do it. I don't have land. Do not plan on buying land here, either.
Show me some prices. I'll buy the land for you if you'll let me join with you (and it's a good price)
He can get land for free in Japan if he's Japanese and willing to relocate to a dying farming community. But most likely he's a damned English teacher that's going to get kicked out soon.
They're not much cheaper here, joshi. Japan has enough farmland to feed its population, you guys should be fine if you don't get involved in murica's upcoming war in taiwan. You're best off if you have a place to grow chickens, bees and vegetables.
>Japan has enough farmland to feed its population,
Hahah hell no, not even close. They produce only 39% of their country's food demand, the lowest food self-sufficiency among major developed countries. Britain is 70 percent right now and look what happened to them.
Only 12 % of the land is currently arable.
Overpopulation
They'll be fine, most of the ganjin will frick off rather than starve.
Look at the hands on that girl!
Women used to have to do manual labor before washing machines and dishwashers were invented, kiddo.
I meant to post
>imagine the jobs
>most of the ganjin will frick off
This. very true. The White barbarians aint got time for that shit. They leave at the hint of anything going sideways - e.g., 2011.
The ocean can keep you alive. If the chinks haven't taken everything.
Seems to be there’s no turning back with Japan in regards to the Sino-American conflict. China seems to have a long memory and if they wanna get back at the anglos for the opium wars, you sure as heck best believe they wanna get back at the Japanese for the many wars, years of conquest and the rape of Nanking.
The japs are our ally’s and homeboys for the foreseeable future.
The CCP knows they can't win a naval invasion of anywhere, ever. If the japs bend the knee that'll be good enough for the chinks in all likelihood.
>chickens, bees and vegetables.
Yeah, exactly what I would do. All 3.
Ducks are better for meat I think. The Asian species of honeybee (apis cerana) seems like it's better at surviving than the European species, but less productive.
Tell me you never raised livestock without saying you never raises livestock. Ducks are literally the worst thing to raise for survival. Beekeeping isn't easy to learn and losses are high even for the experienced. The hardest lesson to learn in beekeeping is that you must be ready to start over every year. Some fricking disease comes through, a new parasite or they just all fricking die and or disappear for no explainable reason happens fairly often with bees.
I have bees, ducks and chickens. Yeah ducks are moronic at surviving, but I just keep them inside until their real feathers start growing in and leave them half in the shell for a day as they hatch. Bees are a completely different ball game from mammals and birds, but it's not impossible to figure out what they need and what they're planning.
It also depends on where you are. I'm in central Texas. Beekeeping has been utter hell here since the late 1990's. From varroa mites to colony collapse disorder to tracheal mites.. The mites all invasive asian types with no counter. CCD has a scary indicator: A CCD hives wax will not even get wax moths for 4 years. Around 4 years, they'll finally move on it. That ain't normal and nobody will pay attention to that critical detail.
>CCD has a scary indicator: A CCD hives wax will not even get wax moths for 4 years. Around 4 years, they'll finally move on it. That ain't normal and nobody will pay attention to that critical detail.
Redpill for a layman?
I got a redpill for you:
>After a meal, carbohydrates are broken down into glucose, an immediate source of energy. Excess glucose gets stored in the liver as glycogen or, with the help of insulin, converted into fatty acids, circulated to other parts of the body and stored as fat in adipose tissue.
https://news.berkeley.edu/2012/12/06/gene-converts-carbs-to-fat/#:~:text=Excess%20glucose%20gets%20stored%20in,as%20fat%20in%20adipose%20tissue.
>I have bees, ducks and chickens.
My neighbor has bees and chickens. A black bear broke into his beehives and ate 30 pounds of honey at one sitting.
Yeah you need to use concrete posts and ratchet straps if you're in bear country and probably an electric fence around that too.
>Why not just buy hundreds of MREs for prepping, as they would be much cheaper in the U.S.?
They look like $8-10+ dollars for one MRE with heater via ebay. They are about 800-1000 calories, or 1/2 your daily requirements assuming not a ton of movement or strenuous activity.
A better option if you are prepping is a HDR MRE. 2200 calories, no heating pouch but you can always just eat it cold, place in boiling water, or use a flameless retort separate.
They seem to be going for $4-8 dollars per. So double the calories for 1/2 or same price.
I doubt the HDR would have as much meat, or protein or fancy meals as regular MRE. Same with vitamins.
However take a good multivitamin with either.
In reality for real prepping you are better going with long lasting, properly sealed and stored food.
Canned goods (no real prep needed), mylar bagged vacuum sealed rice, sugar, salt, grains, beans.
>I doubt the HDR would have as much meat
they contain no meat and are vegetarian
>ebay
Shit, never checked eBay. Thanks. I'll have a look. Amazon is expensive as shit for this stuff. I just want to buy a ton of it, and forget about it until I need it. But not at Amazon prices.
JapAnon do they not have canned food in Japan? To hell with buying $30 apiece MRE bags when you can get canned vegetables, beef stews, chili, and soups and eat way more for your yen.
>get canned vegetables, beef stews, chili, and soups and eat way more for your yen.
I do have some of that, but selection is limited in Japan. I have Minestrone soup from Campbell's and pasta sauces, tuna, saba, sardines, etc. I do have canned goods - a lot. But that's just one food item. So I thought that MREs would give you more variety.
You tried pickling japanon?
sure, but its more so a cheap "meal" on the go. something more substantial than a power bar or a bag of nuts. not saying you cant use them as emergency food, but they are far from the best in many aspects.
Variety yes, but at those prices you may as well hope whatever calamity you're prepping for to kill you as you'd go broke stocking up meals at $30 a go
>you may as well hope whatever calamity you're prepping for to kill you as you'd go broke stocking up meals at $30 a go
Yeah. It's not doable. Too expensive.
>spend years in the Army, forced to eat random MRE's all the damn time even though there's a perfectly good DFAC
>pray I at least get lemon pepper tuna
>never get lemon pepper tuna
>always some amalgam meat bullshit that clogs your anus
>homosexual boomers, "almost served"'s and foreigners try to push MRE'S on me thinking they're tough or something
>perfectly good REI down the street with better innawoods food
Just no.
This
We would throw ours out and take cans of tuna and oats
years in the Army, forced to eat random MRE's all the damn time even though there's a perfectly good DFAC
>>pray I at least get lemon pepper tuna
get lemon pepper tuna
some amalgam meat bullshit that clogs your anus
boomers, "almost served"'s and foreigners try to push MRE'S on me thinking they're tough or something
good REI down the street with better innawoods food
>Just no.
I always liked them. But then, I was a kid who went through his dad's lunch box after coming home from the mine to eat his sandwiches, etc. aha. I did military service, and like my MREs. We'd trade them with each other for shit we liked.
Just eat your own cum bro. Free meals whenever you want. Prepping is moronic.
You'd literally be better off spending that money on a freeze dryer and preserving your own food.
Also you should look into protein bars, theybhave high nutritional densityand require no prep which makes them the most ideal food for a survival situation.
>a freeze dryer and preserving your own food.
That's good, too, I guess. I don't have money for that kind of shit here, though. Stuff you guys can get cheap in the U.S. costs an arm and leg to get imported to Japan.
Go to the LDS Bishop's Storehouse location (I don't know where you live, but here's one in Shibuya)
Tokyo Japan Self-Reliance Center
28-8 Sakuragaoka-cho
SHIBUYA 150-0031
Worse than I thought. You're some American Navy or Marines fricking brat on Yokosuka or that Marine base in Okinawa. Go home gaijin round eye.
I ate MREs for weeks at a time in Iraq. Here's a few things about MREs that most people don't know.
>extremely calorie dense
I'm not kidding. The actual US military MREs don't list calories, but I saw a data sheet once. It puts cliff bars to shame. Its all calories. And that makes sense. When you are walking around all day, and almost freezing to death all night, you burn alot of calories.
>most of the food makes you constipated on purpose
Also makes sense. You might get one good shit every few days while you are out in the field. Once every few days where you can actually dig a nice hole and shit for 5 min. without something stupid happening.
>the milkshake is a laxitive
Eat the food. Save the milkshake packet. When you are ready to unleash the kraken, down that bad boi and give it 5 min.
>the milkshake is a laxitive
neat, didn't know this was something y'all used it for
30 dollars for the garbage the US feeds it's Zogbots? Order freeze dried entrees from Mountain House they last 20-30 years, you just need boiled water and you have good food.
Mountain House makes the zogbot arctic/cold weather rations
ahahahahahahaha
>Trusting a gubbmint contractor
I prefer getting quality food from people who actually won't israelite your food. Thems Mormons know how to prep.
Thanks, I'll take a look. Shit is so expensive to import into Japan, though.
Japa love camping. They have their own mre style meals for civilians that you can get. You can also get Japanese military rations - I bought a couple actually. Don't be an idiot.
get those mountain house cans instead, they last longer
>mountain house
I'll be looking at those instead of MREs, I guess. Fricking expensive, though. $800 for just a few tins. pic related
Really you should think about what you want out of your "MRE" and design your own. A small packet of pickled vegetables and one of dried meat to add to picrel would be a perfectly good MRE if you can boil some water. It would also cost a lot less.
I'm in Oregon and varroa is a problem for hives that aren't bred to be resistant. I gas em with oxalic acid vapor and if any drop into the screen bottom board they keep getting gassed.
Frick wrong pic
Whats the point in prepping? Nothing is going to happen.
>Grasshopper can't read the signs of upcoming disaster
I mean that in both a general and religious sense.
Tell me whats going to happen
Things are gonna be fricking fricked mane
Cold mad max for a few years.
I need proof
Look at the state of everything around you. If that's not all the proof you need, you're ngmi.
When in rome do as the romans do, i am not going to spood feed you but my only hint will read what governments and the rich are doing with their money and emulate that or suffer in poverty when it truly hits the fan
Will whatever you guys say is going to happen get rid of the immigrants and make this a white country again?
I dont know im not a biologist
From a religious perspective, the more wicked portion of the people won't make it.
From a General perspective: Since Whites are more prepared in general, there will likely be more that survive.
Yes, but it's going to be very painful.
And how lomg until these events take place
2 more weeks
Read the timeline and see for yourself
In a recent talk at BYU Hawaii, President Nelson (The current Prophet) was basically "Asking us to get on the ark" and was starting to say "In the coming days" and not 'the coming years' like he said in times past.
Don't know, a year or two would be my guess.
General sense:
more widespread conflict in general. Infrastructure breakdown from the lack of a competent populace to keep it up (You should know this, your country will join the list of liveleak video compilations soon enough). On top of that, natural disasters are increasing (not for "climate change" reasons)
In a religious sense:
Wars and rumors of wars. Earthquakes in 'divers' places, And plenty of others. Here, have a link to this guy's tracker
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xNdVjR_n5z-8kLB7iNuLCeZvK5XCpId0d8XiTeCofGI/edit#gid=458641654
If you can't see it by now, my advice to you is secure a triple fatal dose of fentanyl. When you see what's coming and that you have no hope and the hunger and pain gets to be too much, take all the fentanyl you have and go out all sleepy and peaceful with no pain. I'm not even kidding or exaggerating. It's literally and without a doubt your best option since you obviously don't know shit.
can't read the signs of upcoming disaster
>I mean that in both a general and religious sense.
Shit is going to get nasty. I sense it. Thus, prepping her in Nippon.
I’m late to the party, but can you afford to move? The only places here that are gonna make it through unscathed are areas that are either 100% white or cold as frick, which usually overlap. Even in zones 3-5 with shitty winters, you can grow tons of food on a quarter acre. Get a gun, grow some food, stay away from Black folk. If you can’t leave Japan, get out of the cities. Live in some rural town, work on a farm; money isn’t going to matter inside of 10 years. MREs are horseshit compared to a deep knowledge of farming and animal husbandry.
Simple
>Nothing happens
You just eat the stuff anyways and keep fit.
>Something happens
You survive.
No matter what, you come out on top.
MREs will stop your entire Gastro system if you eat them longer than 2 days.
It's emergency food not everyday food.
If you want to prep than prep following:
Rice
Beans
Buckwheat etc
They're meant for when you're on the move or to distribute them easily to soldiers not when your lard ass is sitting in your basement larping about the end of times.
Some MRE packs combined with some fishing/hunting material in your backpack, a water purifier and firestarter if you must flee quickly.
I had some Norwegian MRE before and it had some hunting stuff in it they were great. Canned fiska too. Way better than ours.
Also
Just make your own rations.
Literally every prepper who's IQ does not dwell in the double digits makes his own rations.
my dad and i gave each other a 24pack of the cheeses. i got jalapeno. worth it
/misc/ make your custom MRE.
3-day escape from the city ration.
Must fit in a rucksack.
We have two definitions in the Navy regarding MRE: Meal Ready to Exit or Meal Refusing to Exit. They are meant for short periods of calorically demanding time frames such as combat or heavy rucking. I wouldn’t consume that shit if not for a lastish resort. Hope that helps japfren
if you are living in a city or near a city, your prepping will be useless because people who haven't prepped will find weapons to use in raiding those that prepped
you should consider the location too like being near a mountain where you can escape to a livable second location in case your main residence gets raided
i would probably be near the vicinity of the suicide forest, great to setup booby traps and ambush looters and kill them for their supplies
a living person is scarier than ghosts and phantoms because a living person can kill you
DO NOT EAT MRE'S EXCLUSIVELY, YOU WILL GET CONSTIPATED
I mean deathly fricking constipation. You have no idea what you're in for. Chew the gum too, they have xylitol or something in them, artificial sweetener that acts as a laxative.
Why are ~~*they*~~ constantly trying to back you up and release pressure at the same time? Are they sadistic
Maybe its some operational thing. A regular diet on the move would mean regular shitting which isn't always feasible in combat plus the TP issue, would they have to airdrop TP along with all the other supplies along the way when they could just negate the need for it with a high cal diet that isn't noted for routine shit patterns?
>used tp and not sand in afghaniland
ngmi
Kek, the Afghans used to waste all the bottled water to rinse their asscrack after a shit and they'd wipe with the bottom of that long ass tunic thing they wear. Its also why using your left hand for anything in public is considered gross to them as that's the shit-clearing hand.
You are literally frickin moronic if you buy MREs to fricking "prep", MREs are supposed to be lightweight but not cost-efficient food for soldiers on the move.
dude will be so constipated he'll probably have to crawl out of his hole during the apocalypse to try to find a hospital for an enema lmao
MREs are NOT the best prep food, but a damn good supplement.
Idk aren't the Japanese bigger shit fetishists than the Germans? OP would probably get off on taking the biggest shits or being blocked up being unable to shit
Because dickheads buy them en masse from Amazon and drive the prices up. Better to just stock rice and beans.
this.
i always get my supplies on sale. they have such a long shelf life that i am guaranteed to get another chance at a sale buy, which is good because i never just buy 6-months worth in one shopping run (would draw too much attention).
also consider gardening, self-preserving and "wild planting" edible plants around your yard or neighborhood.
>I just ordered some MREs from Amazon
You bought garbage food from greedpig Bezos? Japanon please don't make this mistake again.
All food can be put in 3 broad categories
Detrimental
Neutral
Beneficial
MRE's are def in the Detrimental category
Just stock up on beans and rice, beef jerky and maybe some organic meal shakes or protein shakes. Raise some chickens if you have room, and eat the eggs raw, much more nutritious, you could live off that alone
>Just stock up on beans and rice, beef jerky and maybe some organic meal shakes or protein shakes.
If you can find beef jerky that isnt rife with soya protein extract, literally every brand here especially jack links has soya crap in it so i had to make my own, got a decent stack thatll last me two weeks
>literally every brand here especially jack links has soya crap in it so i had to make my own
yeah, and most commercial jerky also has a ton of sugar
Yes its fricking ridiculous, just for it to taste good? Come on now
I doubt its for taste, its since its super cheap and thrown in many foods as filler to boost the caloric content
Perhaps youre right, then again ive looked up many other homemade jerkies especially from berta which i thought might be based yet they also contained fricking soya in the ingredients. Them ruining my favourite jack links teriyaki with soya is still aggravating to me so i just look at all sauces with similar distaste
MREs are for 2 to 3 days at a clip.
1 or 2 in a day otherwise you better bring some stool softener.
Most of it's junk
Either enriched wheat junk or some nasty condensed creamer that you're not supposed to eat
Continuous MRE use can be constipating. They're good, occasionally, to break up the montony of eating staple foods. The coming collapse could last years. Better to push deep into years worth of stored food, than to spend money on MREs. Buy more rice. Buy more peanut butter. What if we're in the deepest global depression ever, for a full decade? What if there's a mini ice-age, and the food simply isn't there for many years?
Get a few big ass water barrels and learn how to store water if you plan on being stationary. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B006OW4FVI/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_9?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1
Do you have a farm in the inaka? Otherwise all the prepping in the world won't save you from what is about to come.
>buying army-focused prepackaged goyslop at premium
>not buying bulk dry foods that last an eternity for cheap because 'gotta show my prep cred'
No nip would waste money on MREs; pick a better memeflag. Grow your own shit or buy the dried raw ingredients for basic struggle meals and stock up on those; if you don't have fifty pounds of dried beans and rice apiece, you're doing it wrong.
This is about $70 - $80 worth of MREs. Just delivered today after I started this thread. Not financially sustainable as a prepping strategy in Japan. Just way too expensive.
>This is about $70 - $80 worth of MREs.
Should've bought about $70 - $80 worth of onaholes anon.
Also, imagine how many cans of tuna, soup, etc. I could get for $80.
A shitload, Anon, a shitload. I've never seen canned anything go for more than $5 US tops, ever.
>A shitload, Anon, a shitload. I've never seen canned anything go for more than $5 US tops, ever.
Canned tuna, Minestrone soup, saba, sardines are pretty cheap here. I guess that's the way to go, because I'm not going to pay $30 - $40 for anymore of these MREs.
Glad you learned your lesson
can you make bread?
>can you make bread?
No.
why?
>why?
No oven.
do you have a pan? if yes try to find out how to make bread on a pan.
>No oven.
Just FYI, an "oven" is just a heated enclosure. You can make one out of mud or brick if you really need to. You could also just forgo the oven entire and toss some dough into the coals and ash and it will cook into bread. Getting ash on the bread is no big deal. Eating ash can actually calm an upset stomach. Or you can steam it. Point is, you can make bread with or without an oven.
Look its Breadcat haha
This was funny nobody is laughing at it. Its silly
thank you canadanon, very cool
🙂
Took this a few minutes ago.
he looks very comfy and well cared for. dont forget rations for him too
>he looks very comfy
He is. There are several of these little Black folk that have wandered into my house over the last few moths. Here are two more...
keep them safe
>keep them safe
Will do. Thanks, anon.
>dont forget rations for him too
I have tuna for them.
You ever been to Aoshima? If I went to any place in Japan I'd check that place out for sure
>sardines are pretty cheap here.
Sardines are premium nutrition, just like raw eggs. Skinless boneless don't stink and taste better.
The regular sardines with those things left on give you more calcium from the little skeleton still in the deens
>Sardines are premium nutrition
Yeah. I've been buying them up lately. I get bored of them, but they are cheap-ish, and healthy.
Get the ones in olive oil, they're tastier plus the olive oil is full of those Omega-3s
>Get the ones in olive oil
For some reason, a lot of them are packed in Onions Oil. I don't buy those. I found a store that sells the ones in olive oil.
probably also some Vit C and a multi. You get most of your natural C from fruits and veggies which are scarce in a dystopia.
>This is about $70 - $80 worth of MREs.
This container makes about 28 meals for $50 and it keeps forever. I have something like this for breakfast with a raw egg mixed in. It's liquid so it's kind of pre-digested so it takes less energy to digest. Plus being organic means no Glyphosate which is in everything now and the reason for the trans and infertility explosion
>This container makes about 28 meals for $50 and it keeps forever. I have something like this for breakfast with a raw egg mixed in. It's liquid so it's kind of pre-digested so it takes less energy to digest. Plus being organic means no Glyphosate which is in everything now and the reason for the trans and infertility explosion
That also might be worth looking at. Thanks. Had not thought about this kind of meal replacement stuff.
I'll take a picture of my prepping goods. Hold on....
Op if your still reading this thread you can technically buy a Baseball Bat or Small camping hatchet as a makeshift weapon.
I’m pretty sure the cops won’t bat a eye at you owning them if your in the right location.
>Mmmmmh just grow your own food bro!
This shows how little the average polturd knows about real life, food doesnt grow magically the day after you sow, it takes months for anything with a minimum nutritional value to grow, not even counting that plagues, pests and other vermin can frick you up, tell me again when all your tatos rot into the soil because you are dumb and and you put them in the soil in the wrong time of year, lmao literally touch grass you stupid fricks
Potatoes take a while. Peppers grow in a week. Same with tomatoes. T. My family has been growing since I was a kid.
He doesnt even know that you can grow potatoes out of the ground in a draining pot and inside as long as its relatively warm and it gets sunlight or grow light
Take a look at this moron, so full of shit it comes out of his ears, tomatoes in a week what are you a moron? From seed to seedling maybe but from seed to fruit? Are you taking a piss on the illiterates here or what? You malicious prick
No tomatoes don't. You're looking at 2 months before they grow to the size of a gumball Anon. Sure they may sprout in a week but don't bullshit OP saying he can go from seeds to Tomato in 7 days.
MRE homosexuals are fricking moronic. Why would you pay $30 for an MRE when pic related is literally $0.80 per serving and cans of beans are less that $0.50? Plus you can actually consume things in the 99.9% chance shit DOESN'T hit the fan? Prepgays are the cringiest brainlets on the planet
I wouldn't sleep on lentils either.
whey powder goes bad after a year. u do need proteins tho
I heard most of those are fricking wood pulp, enjoy your sawdust there chief
Until a Ukraine invasion moment happens then yes, pepper gays are bull shitting.
But hey, Russia invaded.
So anything is on the plate.
>MRE homosexuals are fricking moronic. Why would you pay $30 for an MRE when pic related is literally $0.80 per serving
Because it is literally $100 for that in Japan. You guys in the U.S. do not understand how frickin' expensive this shit is here. What costs you $10 costs us $100 here.
you guys dont have picrel? or you all buy stuff off 7-eleven
😉
Packed with sodium, and you'll start shitting twice a month
MRE's are emergency combat meals, not real food. Its like "HEY GUYS I GOT THIS METH IT FRICKING RULLES I'VE BEEN EATING ADD PILLS FOR THE LAST 7 DAYS AND I CAN'T SLEEP BUT EVERYTHING IS FINE BUT NOW THE SHADOW PEOPLE ARE GETTING AGRESSIVE."
Buy normal food.
Buy canned food.. same shit. The military used canned food for the longest.
MRE's are more compact and light weight, that's the only reason they switched.
If you're going to prep in your home made bunker, why not use it as a pantry and stock it with canned and dry goods? Like a revolving door for foods used regularly, maybe once a week. That keeps it up to date.. you know like a regular pantry, except bigger.
Prepping isn't a revolutionary thing. Everybody does it without realizing it. We're mammals, giant pack rats. Dogs that bury their bones.
Also, I wouldn't pay high prices for MRE's. Even for the nostalgia, I was in the military and ate those things. Half the knuckleheads in my platoon couldn't even prepare their food properly with it. It's even worse on youtube.. you preppers are moronic. How hard is it to read the instructions and fill the heating bag up to the dotted line?
Buy rice and canned food instead. The Amerifat MRE's sucked monkey balls compared to ours either way.
You can get 20 pounds of beans for under $20.
Having experimented with beans the last couple months, I can tell you that you will be sharting in your camo pants all day long if you rely just on beans. I prefer rice. Doesn't have that problem.
Cook them longer.
>beans
Went with rice. Easy, and cheap to get here.
Rice is not a complete protein. The point of having both rice and beans is together they form a complete protein. You also will also need oil to get the fatty acids your body needs.
Here's my prepping room.
Very honorable
>Very honorable
I've only been at it a couple of months. My goal is to eventually fill the room, and organize it.
i see no weapons
>i see no weapons
Don't you worry. They're here...
do you have an old Arisaka or Nambu stashed somewhere?
that looks like a good start. you are already ahead of most
Buy a food cabinet you moron.
I take it you live in a studio apartment or something without a kitchen.
You know what a fricking pantry is?
It's a essentially a small prepper room our compartment.
It's not something new. You're trying to reinvent the fricking wheel, and failing miserably.
You need to think bigger scale. 20 kilo sacks of rice and beans inside of picrel with silica packs is what you need if you want to live.
>20 kilo sacks of rice
Got bags of rice. I didn't take a picture. I put them under my kitchen floor storage space.
Rice is good, but you'll need some kind of long lasting protein or some way to get it. Dried beans are easy to store, but knowing how to fish would be the best. Japan has a lot of nice rivers to fish in.
>knowing how to fish would be the best. Japan has a lot of nice rivers to fish in.
I live near a river, and I have one of those survival kits with fish line and bait. I should try it out before I actually need it. The river is just 2 km from my house. I've thought about going down there and trying my rig out to see if I can get it to work.
It's important to know how strong the line is. You should look for a good pole at a 2nd hand store and learn how to use it. Maybe the grandpas will teach you if you ask, it involves knowing how to tie a few knots.
>the grandpas will teach you
I rode my motorcycle down to the river last summer, and saw an old Japanese guy there fishing for eels. Probably could benefit from talking to them.
There's a lot to learn, having a teacher will be very helpful but all you really need is a line, hook and bait. Learning to dig for clams and what seaweeds are edible would also be a good idea if you live next to the sea.
>There's a lot to learn
Now that you mention it, it's well worth my while to chat them up and see what I can find out. I didn't think of it at the time as I was just passing him buy and only said hello and asked him what he was fishing for. Good idea, though.
Best to learn how before you have to. There's lots of tasty things to eat in the water.
You don't need to learn how to fish. Fishing is for sport. If you're catching fish to eat you set up fish traps.
>fishing
>in radioactive water
Kek, japan is the last place you'd want to be during the end of days.
Those mfers will probably cause it.
>japan is the last place you'd want to be during the end of days.
says the US.
The US is a big place with a lot of places to go hide out. Japan, not so big.
Better than being surrounded by Black folk, israelites and spics. This place isnt too mych of an improvement though being surrounded by pajeets and hajis
He's a homosexual, he's going to develop small testies to amalgamate into tokyo society.
Rice is enough for him.
And dried tofu.. aka: soi
>And dried tofu.. aka: soi
tempeh (fermented soi) is actually okay, it neutralizes the phyto-estrogens.
>Got bags of rice.
good thread Japanon
By the way.. I got more food than this in my pantry and I'm not even thinking of prepping. I don't care if my state blows up tomorrow.
They'll be doing the world a favor.
I should move to Japan and prep there. It'll be easier to kill those limp wristed homosexuals.
You don't want to survive the boogaloo on nightmare difficulty here in the US?
homie I unironically eat the cracker thing and that’s it this has to be a data mine thread there’s no way this insect Black person is serious
>Why not just buy hundreds of MREs for prepping, as they would be much cheaper in the U.S.?
I've been buying those emergency food buckets. They're also expensive, but have like a 20 year shelf life and 20,000 calories worth of food. I think MREs only last a few years.
Better to stock up on something like Ready Hour. Also, make sure you get a gravity water filter like Alexapure, so that you can have clean water from basically any source for a long ass time. I've got all my shit from coyotewares.com
There are FAR better options for long-term storage of food than US MREs, especially for the money you spend on them.
for the same money you can get a small scale microwave vacuum dryer and just seal your own dried meals in mylar gusseted bags make w/impulse sealers or buy bulk. Would be much much tastier that way. MRE's are not something you want to HAVE TO eat, if that makes any sense
Black person
Get freeze dried food and distilled water. Don’t waste money on MREs.
Just buy long-life (10-25 years) stuff if you care that much. MREs are a trendy thing to buy, but are glorified overpriced lunchables.