I plan on buying multiple firearms in a single background check. I don't have the money to completely build every gun. I've ordered four AR-15 lowers, and I'm planning on getting the part of the MP5 that requires an FFL to perform a background check. Which part am I looking for?
The stamped upper receiver and based on your lack of knowledge of this, youre probably not ready to build an mp5. It requires, welding and using a press etc.
I don't know any welding, but I could use a drill press.
Not just a drill press, but also a hydraulic press and its also cheaper just to buy an ap5 or pof 5 or ptr mp5 than building one from parts
Alright, so if I want an MP5, I just have to buy the entire thing. An anon in a previous thread recommended that I either get a Dakota Tactical, TPM, or Parabellum MP5.
At the moment the century imported Turkish ap5 is pretty cheap. They're made on original hk tooling sold to turkey back in the 70s and turkey still produces military full auto variants in the same factory
Would these be easy to convert to select-fire like the ones that anon mentioned in the previous thread?
Yes with the full auto pack ant carrier and some dremeling of the blocks, but not legally of course unless you have an sot license.
I have the MP5 conversion manual. I don't have a milling machine, but I could probably try to buy one, get the job done, and then return it the next day.
go to bed school starts early tomorrow.
I just started learning about MP5s and P90s yesterday, but I've spent more time learning about P90s. Posting on here often speeds up my learning quite a bit.
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No.
Your lack of knowledge about this entire process is shining through. I don't think you should be buying any firearms if you have the mindset to do something as stupid as that.
You are not going to build your own MP5 with your current skillset or tools.
In a later post, I stated that it would be something I would like to do in the deep future once I get my own house and garage, along with all of the expensive tools needed.
Redpill me on MP5 parts kits.
Unless you get a saw cut kit that can be rewelded, youll probably have to re fold your own receiver from an mp5 flat and weld the trunnion and flat together and also the blocks to keep it legally semi. Theres a couple guides online on the steps
It's hard. Not impossibly hard, but it's fiddly sheet metal work, delicate TIG welding and a lot of specialized tooling and trying to use a car jack to press a barrel into a trunion to somewhere between .004" to .020" (bolt gap tightens up with age) can be a real b***h. My G3 kit came with a xeroxed copy of "instructions" for building an MP5 from Small Arms Review, I think.
"Saw cut" kits are still firearms, and if originally FA, still machine guns according to the latest ATF shenanigans, and possessing one could be not a small felony. There's also the semi only modification of FA features on the surplus parts for compliance (machining, more diddly welding) to think about unless you're spending even more money on semi only parts, driving cost up.
Not your mom, do your own thing. This is shit they've won a conviction on in court though.
Bolt gap of .004" to .020" is for G3/91/CETME kits, to be clear.
I don't think you have a clue about building an MP5 lmao
I'm doing research on it right now. It looks like something I'd do in the deep future. Something I'd do once I finally have a house and a garage and a welder and a dremel.
Please just send the kit to a builder anon. Or buy other parts for your other gun parts
This anon is right. You'll have to send your kit to a builder if you want it done right.
You can't. Just buy an AP5.
It's not that it's impossible, but if you're asking this question then you, the OP, can't do it.
Are there any PDFs out there that go over the whole process of building an MP5? It looks pretty fun.
Why are you ordering 4 AR lowers at once if you don't have the money to actually build them as guns?
Straw purchase? It's a pretty serious felony to knowingly buy a gun on behalf of someone who can't lawfully purchase firearms.
I will fill out the form 4473 myself. The feds keep track of background checks, but they have no idea how many firearms were purchased with each one. I already own several guns, but I've never gone through a background check. For all the feds would know, I've only gone through a single one, and nearly everybody only buys one gun when they go through a background check.
I don't think you're as smart as you think.
>but they have no idea how many firearms were purchased with each one
You can use the same NICS check and 4473 for two guns but the 4473 with have both guns on it, so they will know you bought multiple; don't know if more than two guns can be on same 4473. If you buy two handguns or more within a month (IIRC) the ffl must report this to the ATF.
I don't think they add serial numbers to 4473s. I think what happens is gun stores have to keep their sales records for at least three years, and if the gun is found to have been used at a crime, they go through the store to figure out whom it was initially sold to.
bump
ffl has to report it
I guess I was wrong about it being stealthier. Also, what is that certain time period?
Because, Mr. ATF man, lowers are $100-$200 each. It’s easier to just buy the lowers now and wait for all the other parts to go on sale or be back in stock.
Also, which part of the Glock is the part I need to buy from an FFL?
Frick ya mudda
The Glock frame is the FFL part. Which one should I get if I want to build a Glock 17?
https://www.primaryarms.com/search?keywords=Glock%20Frame
Should I get a Gen 3 frame or a Gen 5 frame?
>I plan on buying multiple firearms in a single background check.
Don’t do that. Biden signed a recent EO/law this year that made it so the BATgays automatically assume you are trafficking guns if you buy more than one at a time. They force the FFL to dox you to your local PD so they can harass you. Just bite the bullet and buy them individually. You’re also put under more scrutiny if you buy more than one handgun within a week from the same FFL iirc.
>They force the FFL to dox you to your local PD so they can harass you.
Horrible if true, but proof? There are plenty of people who buy multiple guns in individual sales.
That shit is going to become unsustainable for them to carry out really fricking fast, PDs are going to start ignoring that once they realize they're getting a hundred requests per day to a thousand requests per day depending on precinct size, all for something that's never going to materialize into anything 99.999.01% of the time.
Nothing to go out and act on, nothing to even just use as statistics to try to get more funding, just a bunch of useless busywork which is going to backlog itself faster than they can ever hope to process.
Based. Also, I live in a really right-wing area, I can be confident that my local police department won't care.