What's the most silent pistol in the world? I've googled but I don't get any concrete answers so might as well ask you autists.
Most silent pistol
What's the most silent pistol in the world? I've googled but I don't get any concrete answers so might as well ask you autists.
Welrod
There might be a modern version that is quiter but if there is then I haven't heard of it
the vp9 is the modern welrod
however this is a spam thread
>however this is a spam thread
No it isn't you nagger also what's the best high tech silencer? I want to know if you can get as silent as the john wick movies
no, it is
this is OP
They're both me, nagger.
yes, they are both you. and you are OP
Yes nagger, I want my question answered. What gun/silencer is the absolute quietest in the world? I'm talking John Wick level shit.
now shut the fuck up
what the fuck is that? Those bullets look weird af too
captive piston cartridges
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4ijx6RpCp2w?feature=share
the Serbu Butt-Master
The suppressor for that thing was just an empty C02 canister. aka; it didnt work.
You're supposed to shoot it from inside your butt, using your rectum as a silencer
>I want to know if you can get as silent as the john wick movies
I don't kn9w that any gun really goes "thwip" like in the movies.
>I want to know if you can get as silent as the john wick movies
You can't
>You can't
The hush puppy is pretty close but there's gotta be something even quieter.
With subsonic ammo added to the mix you definitely can.
There's a scene in Wick 2 where they are using suppressed pistols in a subway station. The sound of the cycling actions of their pistols would be loud enough to make people next to them turn their heads.
You think people walking in a crowded subway station would hear and turn around from this?
Are you stupid?
Bullets hitting walls would be loud enough to turn heads.
It's a big room.
Functionally illiterate, huh? Shame.
>The sound of the cycling actions of their pistols would be loud enough
I never watched the video and was not arguing against a pistols cycling being loud.
I was simply suggesting that even if the gun were perfectly silent, that shooting at surfaces right next to people, would cause them to turn their heads.
>I never watched the video
So why reply? Addicted to attention?
I was responding to the picture posted.
The text inside of the post appeared to be a joke or sarcastic, i didnt really care.
>The sound of the cycling actions of their pistols would be loud enough
True.
What, you thought some noise normalised youtube video would convince anyone otherwise?
its called suspension of disbelief. do you get mad at fast & furious movies too?
>With subsonic ammo added to the mix you definitely can.
No you absolutely cannot you fucking nocans.
Yes, you can, you inbred mouthbreather.
What a bunch of horseshit. I know you've never left your mother's basement but even so you should have at least a vague idea of noisy busy subway stations are. No one's gonna hear shit in that environment.
The subway had bullets smacking into walls and showering people with debris. I think they would notice.
>Welrod
isn't the hush puppy better?
Hush puppy is louder
>Hush puppy is louder
what's the decibels of a welrod vs a hush puppy?
Welrod reported 122.8 dB
https://web.archive.org/web/20220327064739/http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=2335
>if there is then I haven't heard of it
Nice
I'm so glad someone spotted that one, I'd almost given up hope
That one Medal of Honor Rising sun mission where you have to use the Welrod for everything.
God fuck that mission, it was such a pain to get through. Shit gets wild however once you get the Sten Mk.II
What's the decibels on this thing?
Apparently it has negative decibels and sucks out a bit of your soul when you fire it.
Do you think it would be legal in america? Technically no part of the gun is reducing the muzzle report. The ammo is just inherently quiet. I think it would get around the the NFA.
yeah, but each round counts as a suppressor so you have to register every single round as if it was such
This, or id imagine them to be destructive devices on their own to make em a pain to own/produce.
so unfortunately nobody can pretend to be some KGB assassin with a silent pistol unless they're a quadrillionaire or something who can afford to spend like $200 on top of whatt the round already costs
>but each round counts as a suppressor
Says who? It's a bullet, not a weapon part.
>Says who?
Says ATF. AAI's various captive-piston ammo (QSPR, Teleshot) were determined to be firearms silencers, and most live ammo was simply destroyed as a result.
I'm unaware of an ATF determination on any of the Russian flavors, but there's no reason it should come out different.
>What's the most silent pistol in the world? I've googled but I don't get any concrete answers so might as well ask you autists.
The question has a few answers. In terms of sheer raw silence it was answered
OP, the most silent pistol was an assassination one that basically worked by having the powder charge push a piston and the piston then pushed the bullet before sealing at the end, thus capturing 100% of the gas completely. Even putting aside legal/cost issues other anons brought up though, they also were very short range only and limited in other ways.
In terms of quietest "normal" pistol no it's not possible to get to hollywood compressed air pff pffs that's just bullshit. However a 22lr pistol with a good suppressor and subsonic rounds would get quiet. And even for centerfire a wet/wipe based design can also get very, very quiet. The tradeoff there (again legal shit aside) is that they're consumables good for a half dozen to a dozen rounds or so before losing effectiveness and needing to be replaced/replenished. So again could be used for self defense in a more compact form factor but not video game building clearing or whatever.
In terms of regular plane jane 9mm or whatever dry cans, honestly no idea. Maxim 9 had some of the lowest values I've seen at 127 dB. Resilient RSP also really good at ~133-135dB. Platform matters, longer barrel will help a little. But both of those are still super fucking loud.
Not op, but what's the theoretical minimum for gun noise?
I suppose once you've eliminated all muzzle gas through captive piston and action cycling noise through manual operation, all that's left is making the bullets movement through the air as quiet as possible by making it extremely aerodynamic.
The quietest projectiles are flechettes. They are the least disruptive to the air they move through.
I thought so, given how thin they are, but I wasn't sure about the fins.
Could be difficult to fire with that kind of projectile with a piston. A sabot could also cause noise issues, even from just clattering on the ground.
>just clattering
Not if the sabot housing is rubberised. The PSS already ejects its casings, too.
>Not op, but what's the theoretical minimum for gun noise?
>I suppose once you've eliminated all muzzle gas through captive piston and action cycling noise through manual operation, all that's left is making the bullets movement through the air as quiet as possible by making it extremely aerodynamic.
For subsonic rounds you'd basically have to crunch the math but my guess is something that, like golf balls, has indents and such to disrupt airflow. If we're talking pure theoretical then a saboted round that actually FLIES vs being ballistic could be pretty interesting, it'd require orientation and be very different from anything currently used in guns but neat to see tests, some sort of lifting body.
For supersonic I guess one could take cues from the X-59 QuessT, that new low supersonic jet NASA is working on. The basic idea there if I understand it is to keep the supersonic shockwaves from actually coalescing, spreading out the energy impulse to the listener and lowering perceived noise. They're aiming for a 1000x reduction vs current supersonic aircraft. A big computer might be able to crunch a design for a bullet that'd use the same principles albeit obviously without any need for engine/cargo/fuel/pilot etc so it'd have more degrees of freedom to work with.
Neither would necessarily actually be PRACTICAL but they'd sure be cool.
You could try to make the bullet a lifting body and fire it from a special unrifled barrel. Maybe have some divots for it to index into the chamber to ensure orientation is correct
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/YC-RikN2Pws
Welrod or whatever the modern equivalent might be. Modern suppressor tech is good but rubber baffles are insanely effective.
this is why silencers are banned and civilians can only have "supressors"
otherwise gun nuts would be about to gun down school children at will and nobody would notice!
Soviet special purpose PSS pistol using captive bolt ammunition.
https://smallarmsreview.com/silent-soviet-pistol-the-pss-and-sp-4-captive-piston-ammunition/
Interestingly every round of ammunition is considered a silencer by law under the NFA and therefore requires it's own registration and tax stamp for civilian ownership. (kek)
No one here has compared enough silenced pistols to definitively know the answer to that question.
The answer is most likely going to be some variety of locked breech shooting subsonic .22 or similar small caliber with an impractically large suppressor.
just a reminder that .22 "Z" rounds are completely silent but i don't think they let americans have them for some reason.
but to answer OP's question any gun firing those is the quietest gun
A silenced .22LR revolver with a long barrel and a really long silencer.
>revolver
anon..
1899 nagant revolver says hi. It has no action noise (just a hammer drop) and it forms a seal between the cylinder and revolver.
It's a shit tier revolver tho with godawful accuracy and it requires exotic ammo. Theres a reason gas sealed revolvers aint a thing no more.
They were only a thing in the first place to get an extra couple dozen FPS from a bullet. If someone made one that was intended for suppressor use, all the issues could be solved.
Then learn gunsmithing and design a modern gas sealed .44 Magnum revolver asshole
Nah, that's why I don't go around saying BS like you.
Literally everything I said was true, though.
There is no .22LR supressed revolver, at least not one mass produced.
Kys retard.
How would that stop a .22LR supressed revolver from being the most quiet pistol?
What would make a gas-sealed revolver quieter than any other form of manually actioned pistol?
It has no action noise. Just a hammer drop.
Any single shot could do the same, though then youd only get 1 ofc.
Semi pistols can have the slide locked (either with a special switch, or your thumb) you get 1 shot then can quietly cycle the slide with your hand.
A lever action like the Volcanic pistol could be another consideration, though im not sure how quite the lever is.
The advantage to the revolver would be the easiest repeat fire of any of these, though im not entirely sure that the sagant is silent when it forces its seal closed.
Cycling a semi auto pistol is unreliable and louder than a revolver cylinder that's rotating the next round into position.
A single shot would still be the quietest of the bunch, which was the original question, being the quietest, not cycling the quietest.
The revolver would be more quiet. It has less shit rattling around.
Less shit rattling around than a singlshot? like a thompson contender?
If you pick up a semi auto and shake it hard, you'll hear stuff inside it moving. Revolvers don't do that.
idk anon, im currently shaking a bersa, a south american potmetal gun, and its not rattling.
But i wasnt arguing for a semi being the quietest, i said single-shot.
Contender may not be the best example. An exposed hammer dropping is loud enough to potentially be heard through walls.
you watch too many movies where the dipshit editor adds foley constantly. Guns don't just make noise when you move them around.
They'll always have a shit trigger pull. No way around that when the trigger is also camming the cylinder forward tight enough to make a gas seal.
Revolvers have the best triggers because you can pull back the hammer manually.
He said 22 revolver, the nagant uses special meme rounds to help form its seal.
It is m1895 and as noted it uses its own 7.62 x 38R ammo to create gas-seal.
There are mods of Nagant m1895 built to fire .22 LR, but they cannot be surpressed better than any normal .22 revolver.
So we just need to make un-circumsized 22 ammo, then when fired from a nagant-style revolver it would be the quietest repeating handgun. problem solved, everyone can go to bed now.
Nagant M1895 with a silencer
My dick
Big suppressor, wipes, and subsonic ammo selection yes, but don't forget that the movement of any autoloader mechanism also generates a lot of noise. There's a reason the mk.23 has the capability to lock the slide in battery