*mogs any chance you have of exporting a 4th gen jet ever again*

*mogs any chance you have of exporting a 4th gen jet ever again*

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    F-35 already did that, all that's left are people who can't hang with the politics.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is going to eat into f35 sales as well

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nah.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        muppet. they even say themselves it's for countries that want a capability in between the FA-50 and F-35

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Retard. The KF21 is called the baby raptor, its an alternative to the F22 not the F35.

          KF21: mach 1.8, 55,000ft service ceiling, 12,000lb weapons payload, max 9.0+ g, 2 engines, cost per unit: $100+ million

          F35: mach 1.6, 50,000ft service ceiling, 20,000lb weapons payload, F35A 9.0g, F35B 7.0g, F35C 7.5g, 1 engine, cost per unit: $75 to $100 million per unit

          KF21 = air superiority

          F35 = multi-role

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >its an alternative to the F22
            Just like the F-16V and F-35 are F-22 alternatives since the US doesn't export them.

            Also the KF-21 only had its first flight this year, acting like it's all ready in service and ready to dethrone the F-22 is frankly laughable.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >its an alternative to the F22
            Just like the F-16V and F-35 are F-22 alternatives since the US doesn't export them.

            Also the KF-21 only had its first flight this year, acting like it's all ready in service and ready to dethrone the F-22 is frankly laughable.

            >It's called a baby raptor
            Yeah and Felon is a 5th Gen, it's obviously true because they said so.
            >Only frontally stealthy
            >Only as stealthy as F-117
            >No gun, lower payload
            >Same engine as F-35, which is power limited to extend service life.
            >Twice the cost of better 4th gen options
            It's literally only to help grow their domestic aircraft industry, like with Japan's F-2. Stop deluding yourself into thinking it's comparable at all to Raptor or Lightning.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >>Same engine as F-35
              Nope.

              F-35 uses the Pratt & Whitney F135 engine. The KF-21 will be using a GE F414 variant.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >The KF-21 will be using a GE F414 variant.
                Yup, other aircraft using that engine for example are the Gripens and the F/A-18E/F. They also use a GE F404 for the T-50/FA-50.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                oh derp, I mixed it up with the F-18. that one is on me.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you mean European and Russian sales, right?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Turks are developing a superior knockoff Raptor with actual stealth, internal weapons bay, and supercruising capability.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why does it look like an inflatable duck?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Turks are developing a superior knockoff Raptor

      Lol, what idiot would get in a turkish made plane?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pakis? Saudis? Emirates?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Saudis and Emiratis aren't going to fuck with that cheap shit unless the US stops selling to them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >surely this time the third world cheapo option will be good and show those imperialists!
      Thirdies never learn.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So are the Iranians!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Turks are developing

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What in the sam hill is that?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >wood mockup

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The last f-7 (chink mig21 copy) where produced in like 2013 for export
    Third world countries (latam, africa, asia) will continue to buy 4gen aircraft for the next 50 years

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. You don't need stealth to blow up cartel factories & african mudhuts.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    F-16 is still outselling it and the KF-50

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only on the used car market for the cheap, new f16s are not being built anymore

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >new f16s are not being built anymore
        Every single time you post this, someone else posts the undeniable fact that the production line for the F-16 was moved from Texas to Georgia, and is still up and running producing BRAND NEW F-16 airframes for the F-16V project as well as modernizing older F-16 airframes to the new F-16V spec.

        Lie all you want that new F-16s aren't being produced, but we both know that we've had this conversation before and we also both know, the F-16 is still in production. You're just a moronshill that doesn't care how often he gets called out for his obvious bullshit as long as you let the thread slide and start your shilling in the next thread you somehow consider that a "win".

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Who tf are you referring to gay, I never posted this before, but tell me when was the last time a nation bought a new f16 that is currently operational? The 1990s?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >now i'm going to pretend i'm not the transparent moronshill that repeats the same shit in every thread before letting it slide once he gets called out directly

            lol
            lmao even

            > In September 2017, the US State Department approved a Foreign Military Sale to Bahrain for 19 new F-16V
            > In June 2018, Bahrain finalized its order for 16 brand new Block 70 F-16V

            > In April 2018, the US State Department approved a Foreign Military Sale to Slovakia for 14 new F-16Vs, pending approval from U.S. Congress

            > On 10 July 2019, Bulgaria approved the purchase of eight F-16V Block 70/72 for $1.25 billion

            > On 27 February 2019, Taiwan requested to buy 66 new F-16V Block 70/72 airframes for an approximate $13 billion
            > On 14 August 2020, Taiwan formally signed an agreement to buy 66 F-16V jets built by Lockheed Martin

            >On 25 March 2019, the US Department of Defense announced approvals for two sets of foreign military sales of F-16V hardware to Morocco; one for upgrading its existing 23 F-16s to the F-16V configuration, valued at $985.2 million; and the second for a batch of 25 new Block 72 airframes, 29 new engines, a package of precision-guided munitions, and training valued at $3.787 billion

            > On 30 September 2021, Turkey sent a formal request to the United States to purchase 40 new F-16V Block 70/72 aircraft and nearly 80 kits to modernize its F-16C/D fighters to F-16V Block 70/72 variant

            And here is the actual production order the US government paid to LM for the new airframes
            > In May 2021, the U.S. Air Force had awarded a $14 billion contract to Lockheed Martin to build new 128 Block 70/72 F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets on behalf of Bahrain, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Taiwan, Morocco and Jordan through 2026.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You still didn’t answer my question gay, how many of those are operational in the skies today?xHXWTK

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron how many KF-21s are operational and in the skies?

                You're counting the KF-21 eggs before they hatch but me doing it with the F-16V is suddenly CRAAAAAZZZY?

                Fuck off you transparent shill cuck.
                You can't claim F-16s aren't being produced anymore then suddenly start saying well SURE they MIGHT be in production, but NONE OF THEM ARE FLYING YET SO IM TECHNICALLY STILL RIGHT HAHAHAHAH

                just have a nice day already, you add nothing to this board.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                gay who tf is talking about kf21s? Its your homo ass seething that there are new f16s are all over the place, the f16 is a fucking 1960s airframe and the last time a new f16 has gone operational is in the 1990s LMFAO you deserve a bullet to the head for your fakenewz gay

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >gay who tf is talking about kf21s
                Look at the thread you're in right now.

                Just take a second.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > when was the last time a nation bought a new f16 that is currently operational? The 1990s?

                Wrong gay, you are wrong and you know it there are no f16s in the skies built after the 1990s

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wow, it's almost like you chose a different quote that you made later as you were back peddling.
                see

                Only on the used car market for the cheap, new f16s are not being built anymore

                >new f16s are not being built anymore
                Which as we've already proven. Is wrong. They are being produced right this second.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > when was the last time a nation bought a new f16 that is currently operational? The 1990s?

                Wrong gay, you are wrong and you know it there are no f16s in the skies built after the 1990s

                And here comes the thread slide I mentioned >you let the thread slide and start your shilling in the next thread
                You might reply a handful more times, but you never keep bumping threads like this where you get called out and shit on. You just try to get them to slide and then post another KF-21/FA-50 thread (or a thread on Korean arms exports for 2022 somehow surpassing $30B despite no proof).

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > wall of mindless seething nobody will ever read

                What tf is this massive seething cope? Sorry your country sucks gay

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                > delivered in the 2030s

                Lol

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Deliveries start in 2024 you dumb moron

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                gay, its going to be 2030s before any are in the skies

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                KF-21 that relies on LM/GE and other non-korean companies to exist enters initial production in 2024 and mass production in 2026.

                F-16V production also starts in 2024, but somehow GE and LM are going to fumble a jet they've been working on for years and take an extra SIX years to get them flying?

                Why would anyone bother to believe anything you say when you make bullshit claims like this?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You're the one moving the goalpost from F-16 is no longer in production to, well the F-16 is in production but they're not flying yet.
                So what happens with your cope posting next year when they start making F-16V deliveries?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >In May 2021, the U.S. Air Force had awarded a $14 billion contract to Lockheed Martin to build new 128 Block 70/72 F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets on behalf of Bahrain, Slovakia, Bulgaria, Taiwan, Morocco and Jordan through 2026.
              That doesn't actually mean they're new, they're obviously just taking old US F-16s and selling them to 3rd world poors.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They are still built and to a much bigger amount than the KF-50 or KF-21 lol.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They literally are.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He moves the goalposts in the next post where he then changes it to newly made OPERATIONAL F-16s.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nope you are wrong

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, they are.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Prove it, there has been plenty of proof posted that F-16Vs are being produced brand new.

                You've posted nothing to support your argument made here

                Only on the used car market for the cheap, new f16s are not being built anymore

                >new f16s are not being built anymore

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, u.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    REEEEEEEE BUY OUR GRIPENS PLEAASE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Burt

    Why are the hard points shaped like little missiles cut in half? Or are those missiles embedded in it's belly? idk what's going on there help a tourist

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Burt

        Ah they are Meteors embedded ty. The blocky, I guess intakes? Made it look like hard points because they stick straight down which does not seem to be the position they're normally mounted

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Around 2030-2032 they plan to start Block 3 production which finally uses an internal weapons bay.

          But yeah, until then all the weapons get external mounting.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Internal weapons bays are apparently too complex for the great engineering geniuses of moronistan.

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