There are about 15 companies deployed there and each one of them loses about 10 people daily on average, most of them are just lightly wounded of course, but a few people die. Your number is an overestimate, but within margin of error considering the fog of war. The amount of hohol losses there is almost chink levels, it's hard to believe unless you see it. They do stupid shit like deploying field showers within 1 mile of the enemy. Keeping your guys alive isn't rocket science - just make them dig foxholes. But apparently there's no limit to hohol moronation.
You don't have to believe me, but you can go see it for yourself any day: nowadays PMCs take anyone willing to go because of dire shortage of personnel. You'll even get paid really well, the issue is what you'd guaranteed to be sent right up the Satan's butthole to try to delay wagner advances, and you will probably die to their intensive and accurate shelling.
>pmc
Ah so you’re an actual Vatnik shill throwing out cope lines straight from the state
Let me give you a little tip; nobody west of Minsk believes this ‘nato mercenary’ moronation
Pure fantasy with 0 to back it up. All the whole we have hundreds of photos and video clips of Wagner walking towards entrenched enemies on foot with no vehicle support of any kind. Wagner loses at least 10x of what Ukies do, probably even worse.
That's how modern day peer conflict looks like - like it's ww1. Again, you don't have to believe me, but i was there for 9 months and you don't know what HE shell smoke smells like. Between the two of us, I'm a greater authority without even posting any proof, just because what i say tracks with what certified combat veterans saw in there.
>That's how modern day peer conflict looks like
It doesn't. We've seen Ukraine attacking and "people randomly walking through field up to enemy trenches with 0 vehicles" is something that literally never happened. It happens multiple times a day, every day for the past 6 months to Russians near Bakhmut though.
I don't understand why you're pretending like it's all clouded in mystery and you have to be there to understand it. We have tons and tons of video footage.
They don't like to show it when they get completely wrecked by said infantry with no vehicles despite technically superior composition and tactics. Or there's straight up no one to upload that because they're all dead. It's one of those instances of survivorship bias. Wagner has plenty of vehicles, some of their own and some commandeered from the Russian military. The reason they don't use that is because much like themselves, their enemy is armed with ATGMs and SPGs up the ass and sending in an assault vehicle = losing it for no gain. The difference is that wagner command learns from mistakes, and Ukrainian - doesn't (just like Russian thigh, I'm ashamed to have fought for the same side as these utter fricking morons and cowards).
1 year ago
Anonymous
>superior tactics >learning from mistakes
There are no tactics and no learning. Wagner is doing what they've been doing from day 1. Which is sending wave after wave of meat, bombing the positions with artillery in between and at some point, after 50-100 waves someone finally gets to the enemy trench and claims it for a while. But I guess losing tens of thousands of soldiers to still not take a single small city is pretty great result for Russians and something you're proud of?
1 year ago
Anonymous
That's how modern day peer conflict looks like - like it's ww1. Again, you don't have to believe me, but i was there for 9 months and you don't know what HE shell smoke smells like. Between the two of us, I'm a greater authority without even posting any proof, just because what i say tracks with what certified combat veterans saw in there.
There are about 15 companies deployed there and each one of them loses about 10 people daily on average, most of them are just lightly wounded of course, but a few people die. Your number is an overestimate, but within margin of error considering the fog of war. The amount of hohol losses there is almost chink levels, it's hard to believe unless you see it. They do stupid shit like deploying field showers within 1 mile of the enemy. Keeping your guys alive isn't rocket science - just make them dig foxholes. But apparently there's no limit to hohol moronation.
have you got any idea on what the actual standing strength of the ukraine army is compared to russia right now? Fairly impressed you're not just shilling with the rest of'em
1 year ago
Anonymous
>They don't like to show it when they get completely wrecked by said infantry with no vehicles despite technically superior composition and tactics
Neither does gayner for some reason, even though they never miss the chance to flaunt the tiniest victory. Maybe this
scenario is entirely in your head, hmmm?
Unfortunately the situation is much more dire then what is fed to the general public...I know it's tempting to conjure a positive image while sitting on a comfortable couch at home, but anon - I've been there and the current rate of losses for our forces are catastrophic..that's why the new mobilization is currently being carried out without much public announcement - aiming for 500k new soldiers to plug the gaping holes in defense...our only hope is that western trannies will finally fold and stop supplying ukrops with supplies and vehicles...
>our only hope is that western trannies will finally fold and stop supplying ukrops with supplies and vehicles...
You must be baiting because you know that won't happen, Lend Lease means that the US is locked in on this, they won't back down unless Russia can literally push up to the Polish border.
You don't have to believe me, but you can go see it for yourself any day: nowadays PMCs take anyone willing to go because of dire shortage of personnel. You'll even get paid really well, the issue is what you'd guaranteed to be sent right up the Satan's butthole to try to delay wagner advances, and you will probably die to their intensive and accurate shelling.
>you don’t have to believe me
Ok I won’t
You are really making yourself obvious with how you phrase shut homie
Not disputing what you claim here but do you have anything to back up your claim? It checks with a lot of front line reports but that's not something we can take your word at strictly
>300 Brave Wagner Warriors are dying daily.
I'd say that's a very optimistic estimate for gayner. It's kinda incredible how pussia manages to waste their x3 population advantage and end up with much more then 1:3 loss ratio.
>Breaks the ceasefire they demanded to launch a missile strike >miss so fricking wildly you hit nothing >y-yeah we killed 80 billion of them
At this point from a morale point of view how do you even muster the will to keep going if you're a Russian soldier? Like how do you grapple with "it's my country and I have to follow orders" and "everyone giving me orders and leading the country is a world class moron"?
They're clearly winning, and the Ukranian leadership themselves are desperately begging for hundreds of tanks and jets and IFVs to try and do something. They're on like mobilization 5 by now.
So just like the brits did it in ww1 with walking towards enemy positions menacingly
Unironically most of them must be high on krokodil/drunk as shit, plus the near total lack of training means that they can't even try to do sensible shit like ducking when under fire on instinct.
With the slight difference that the brits did so in coordinated attacks, right after a creeping barrage, under the cover of smoke in a decade when automatic fire was the exception rather than the norm and machine gun's accuracy was low.
Fast forward a century and Russians are doing it worst than that.
Thermopylae started with 300 spartans (plus allies) in a defensive. It didn't start with squads of Spartans marching forward for months to get slaughtered by the Persians for a questionable goal.
>Russian shills get history from media and everything is gay
It's called world history and the writings of Herodotus (which many Americans read in H.S.) and Simonides. You know what the graphic novel and then movie were based on. And if you got a boner from 300 thats on you and not Hollywood, if anything the graphic novel and movie vilified trans/androgenic as weak and immoral.
>He thinks people know Thermopylae from hollywood movies
The absolute state of third world education
Truly the "real world isn't marvel movies" was projection all along
Why are you vatBlack folk so obsessed with the american cinema?, in every fricking discussion you bring that weird topic. I know marvel is popular among ruskies, but jeez, give it a rest
Not just that, it's calling everything you don't like r*ddit while being a painfully obvious r*dditfugee yourself. inb4 one of them starts dumping their r/wojak folder, proving my point.
You jest, but convicts fight extremely well. Other than elevated levels of desertion and maraudership compared to contractors, they're all around superior fighters because they never forego any safety precautions, and that's 90% of success in combat. I guess fighting for your personal liberty is an outstanding motivator.
>posting this map cope again
this map specified which companies are involved and where they are roughly stationed. the ukraine military is a national military hence they have multiple denominations and companies. Russia's side here is wagner group which doesn't split troops into company sectors in the same way, it's literally one giant PMC group and three wing groups. The actual manpower balance here is pretty equal actually
>guy claiming actual frontline experience shows up >claiming
It's pretty clear that the dude is just baiting. You can't take someone talking about "superior Wagner tactics" seriously lmao
They didn't take Soledar, they are not fighting for Soledar (it's all vdv now), they haven't captured a single city in 10 months of fighting, they lost at least 20k soldiers by now.
I'd say k has been pretty lenient towards vdv. They just got btfo really hard and the way how it happened is a good example of russian incompetence. So yeah we joke about vdv a lot but it's more what it represents as a whole for the russian army instead of purely focused on vdv
Might as well post your whole routine, man. >/k/ope >nafo >troon
What other meme words do you usually post anyway? I can't be fricked to remember it all.
>Something tells me it's just vodka addled vision blur
Yes but actually it has more to do with the fact that its made by a Russian guy
and they arent stupid enough to pinpoint their own locations
so they just leave it hella vague
Though this map is still cope since they have no clue what units are actually there
I assume half the units on this map arent even real and its just cope for them to explain why they havent taken it yet
The worst mercenaries are those who are just governments lapdogs.
>t. 99% of all mercenaries that have ever existed
Its seems that Wagner existence caused some controversy.
And we know for a fact the Ukes have stabilised, day/night sighted brownings with accuracy over 2km.
Wheeeeeeeeeee.
No anon you mistranslated wagner telegram.
300 Brave Wagner Warriors are dying daily.
But victory is near.
>here, by monke's law, we lie
Shut up, nerd. You r*ddit gays are insufferable with the homosexual way you all write.
>you
t:t
Cope incel
There are about 15 companies deployed there and each one of them loses about 10 people daily on average, most of them are just lightly wounded of course, but a few people die. Your number is an overestimate, but within margin of error considering the fog of war. The amount of hohol losses there is almost chink levels, it's hard to believe unless you see it. They do stupid shit like deploying field showers within 1 mile of the enemy. Keeping your guys alive isn't rocket science - just make them dig foxholes. But apparently there's no limit to hohol moronation.
>Trust me bro, the army with more motivation, better equipment and the entire Nato satellite network behind is the one with huge losses.
Sure comrade
You don't have to believe me, but you can go see it for yourself any day: nowadays PMCs take anyone willing to go because of dire shortage of personnel. You'll even get paid really well, the issue is what you'd guaranteed to be sent right up the Satan's butthole to try to delay wagner advances, and you will probably die to their intensive and accurate shelling.
>their intensive and accurate shelling
Frick off armchair copelord
>nowar 4chin gay who can't come to terms with reality calls someone an armchair copelord
KEK, full propellant, fire single, over.
>roger fire single
>PMC
Yes the legendary "Polish mercenaries' that are dying by scores but no one in Poland knows about it.
>pmc
Ah so you’re an actual Vatnik shill throwing out cope lines straight from the state
Let me give you a little tip; nobody west of Minsk believes this ‘nato mercenary’ moronation
Pure fantasy with 0 to back it up. All the whole we have hundreds of photos and video clips of Wagner walking towards entrenched enemies on foot with no vehicle support of any kind. Wagner loses at least 10x of what Ukies do, probably even worse.
That's how modern day peer conflict looks like - like it's ww1. Again, you don't have to believe me, but i was there for 9 months and you don't know what HE shell smoke smells like. Between the two of us, I'm a greater authority without even posting any proof, just because what i say tracks with what certified combat veterans saw in there.
>That's how modern day peer conflict looks like
It doesn't. We've seen Ukraine attacking and "people randomly walking through field up to enemy trenches with 0 vehicles" is something that literally never happened. It happens multiple times a day, every day for the past 6 months to Russians near Bakhmut though.
I don't understand why you're pretending like it's all clouded in mystery and you have to be there to understand it. We have tons and tons of video footage.
They don't like to show it when they get completely wrecked by said infantry with no vehicles despite technically superior composition and tactics. Or there's straight up no one to upload that because they're all dead. It's one of those instances of survivorship bias. Wagner has plenty of vehicles, some of their own and some commandeered from the Russian military. The reason they don't use that is because much like themselves, their enemy is armed with ATGMs and SPGs up the ass and sending in an assault vehicle = losing it for no gain. The difference is that wagner command learns from mistakes, and Ukrainian - doesn't (just like Russian thigh, I'm ashamed to have fought for the same side as these utter fricking morons and cowards).
>superior tactics
>learning from mistakes
There are no tactics and no learning. Wagner is doing what they've been doing from day 1. Which is sending wave after wave of meat, bombing the positions with artillery in between and at some point, after 50-100 waves someone finally gets to the enemy trench and claims it for a while. But I guess losing tens of thousands of soldiers to still not take a single small city is pretty great result for Russians and something you're proud of?
have you got any idea on what the actual standing strength of the ukraine army is compared to russia right now? Fairly impressed you're not just shilling with the rest of'em
>They don't like to show it when they get completely wrecked by said infantry with no vehicles despite technically superior composition and tactics
Neither does gayner for some reason, even though they never miss the chance to flaunt the tiniest victory. Maybe this
scenario is entirely in your head, hmmm?
Unfortunately the situation is much more dire then what is fed to the general public...I know it's tempting to conjure a positive image while sitting on a comfortable couch at home, but anon - I've been there and the current rate of losses for our forces are catastrophic..that's why the new mobilization is currently being carried out without much public announcement - aiming for 500k new soldiers to plug the gaping holes in defense...our only hope is that western trannies will finally fold and stop supplying ukrops with supplies and vehicles...
>our only hope is that western trannies will finally fold and stop supplying ukrops with supplies and vehicles...
You must be baiting because you know that won't happen, Lend Lease means that the US is locked in on this, they won't back down unless Russia can literally push up to the Polish border.
>That's how modern day peer conflict looks like
Hahahahaha
The mind of a third world copium addict shitskin in action
My fricking sides
>you don’t have to believe me
Ok I won’t
You are really making yourself obvious with how you phrase shut homie
source: I imagined it to be true so I can feel better about myself
I was there. Cope more.
In that case you must have at least 1 photo on your phone proving that, I mean you wouldn't just make this up right?
Not disputing what you claim here but do you have anything to back up your claim? It checks with a lot of front line reports but that's not something we can take your word at strictly
No of course they don’t this is a shitposting thread
>300 Brave Wagner Warriors are dying daily.
I'd say that's a very optimistic estimate for gayner. It's kinda incredible how pussia manages to waste their x3 population advantage and end up with much more then 1:3 loss ratio.
How many are there in that pic alone? Jesus I keep thinking I've tallied it up and then I notice even more. What kind of tactics are these?
VatBlack folk keep spamming this, blissfully ignorant of NATO symbology and corps vs company difference. Oh to be as simple as them for a few days…
Yeah, some days I wish I was as proud as they are, it must feel nice feeling like you are better than everyone with a cracked teeth and dying liver.
>50.000 ukraine conscripts
so 10 people in total?
>Breaks the ceasefire they demanded to launch a missile strike
>miss so fricking wildly you hit nothing
>y-yeah we killed 80 billion of them
At this point from a morale point of view how do you even muster the will to keep going if you're a Russian soldier? Like how do you grapple with "it's my country and I have to follow orders" and "everyone giving me orders and leading the country is a world class moron"?
They're clearly winning, and the Ukranian leadership themselves are desperately begging for hundreds of tanks and jets and IFVs to try and do something. They're on like mobilization 5 by now.
How would they defeat the whole Russian army without proper heavy offensive hardware?
Even better the strike basically confirmed they the Yukes killed 600 in that himars strike
do you know what xxx means
It means 30,000 to 90,000 men
do you know what x means
It means 3,000 to 4,000 men (for Ukraine)
Frankly I'm stunned that the thread has continued beyond this post
All the vatniks are doing here is proving that they can't fricking read
You are ignorant XXX on Russian troops symbol refers to the orgy battalion encampment.
😀
What number is XX?
Consensual rape
Division
recent videos show zombie tier wagner troops leisurely walking into incoming fire like they aren't even lucid anymore
link?
wtf, are these psi-zombies from stalker?
Unironically most of them must be high on krokodil/drunk as shit, plus the near total lack of training means that they can't even try to do sensible shit like ducking when under fire on instinct.
So just like the brits did it in ww1 with walking towards enemy positions menacingly
With the slight difference that the brits did so in coordinated attacks, right after a creeping barrage, under the cover of smoke in a decade when automatic fire was the exception rather than the norm and machine gun's accuracy was low.
Fast forward a century and Russians are doing it worst than that.
What is the tactical advantage of edge-walking into automatic gunfire?
Frick STALKER zombie AI has more self preservation then this
Krokodil will do that to you.
What kind of unit is the x with the line down the middle?
Partial infantry
That image. Was original owner of that leg wearing a sock on that foot?
> foot wrap bros, what happened?
Motorized infantry
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Military_Symbology_Guide.svg
Thermopylae started with 300 spartans (plus allies) in a defensive. It didn't start with squads of Spartans marching forward for months to get slaughtered by the Persians for a questionable goal.
>Acktshully, it isn't like the thinly veiled Hollywood israelite produced gay porn I beat off to because Russians bad, mmmkay?
>Russian shills get history from media and everything is gay
It's called world history and the writings of Herodotus (which many Americans read in H.S.) and Simonides. You know what the graphic novel and then movie were based on. And if you got a boner from 300 thats on you and not Hollywood, if anything the graphic novel and movie vilified trans/androgenic as weak and immoral.
>Russians bad
Yes
>He thinks people know Thermopylae from hollywood movies
The absolute state of third world education
Truly the "real world isn't marvel movies" was projection all along
Why are you vatBlack folk so obsessed with the american cinema?, in every fricking discussion you bring that weird topic. I know marvel is popular among ruskies, but jeez, give it a rest
GOD I love viscachas
nafogays were trying to meme lord of the rings a few days ago
>nafo
Obsessed.
Rent free
>these people I hate do X
>so I'll do X, too
it's the shallowest, most transparent appeal to herd mentality
it's like calling thing you don't like reddit. Boy that's sure to convince people!
Not just that, it's calling everything you don't like r*ddit while being a painfully obvious r*dditfugee yourself. inb4 one of them starts dumping their r/wojak folder, proving my point.
Never heard of "The last ring bearer?"
>, it isn't like the thinly veiled Hollywood israelite produced gay porn I beat off
What anon meant by this?
300 a week, maybe
PMC Chad vs Virgin Conscripts.
Why can't we retake Opytne from convicts, troonybros?
are you telling me wagner should ditch the dragon baby teeth, and just make piles of snow to stop Nato?
>300 Wagner warriors storm Ukrainian positions every day
>they all die every day and get respawned the next one
Why did we lose Podgorodnoye to convicts, fellow /k/opers?
Convicts? Wagner wasn't even there it's all vdv.
You jest, but convicts fight extremely well. Other than elevated levels of desertion and maraudership compared to contractors, they're all around superior fighters because they never forego any safety precautions, and that's 90% of success in combat. I guess fighting for your personal liberty is an outstanding motivator.
>posting this map cope again
this map specified which companies are involved and where they are roughly stationed. the ukraine military is a national military hence they have multiple denominations and companies. Russia's side here is wagner group which doesn't split troops into company sectors in the same way, it's literally one giant PMC group and three wing groups. The actual manpower balance here is pretty equal actually
I wouldn't say warriors
What is the NATO symbol for slave forced conscripts under PMC?
ITT:
>guy claiming actual frontline experience shows up
>/k/opers start gaslighting
Sorry nobody believed your larping, sir. They're all bloody b***h bastards!
>guy claiming actual frontline experience shows up
>claiming
It's pretty clear that the dude is just baiting. You can't take someone talking about "superior Wagner tactics" seriously lmao
>superior Wagner tactics
They take soledar so it's superior enough in my book.
They didn't take Soledar, they are not fighting for Soledar (it's all vdv now), they haven't captured a single city in 10 months of fighting, they lost at least 20k soldiers by now.
>it's all vdv now
Turn out vdv is not as bad as /k/ike think. What a surprise.
VDV is and always was the most capable force that Russia has.
Unfortunately, it won't unkill all the VDV troops they have already lost.
I'd say k has been pretty lenient towards vdv. They just got btfo really hard and the way how it happened is a good example of russian incompetence. So yeah we joke about vdv a lot but it's more what it represents as a whole for the russian army instead of purely focused on vdv
Now this is pure unadulterated /k/opium.
Sure vatBlack person
>They take soledar
Huh, that's pretty cool. I give you permission to start posting proofs then.
Might as well post your whole routine, man.
>/k/ope
>nafo
>troon
What other meme words do you usually post anyway? I can't be fricked to remember it all.
there's also nu/k/
it's such a predictable pattern.
Ukrainians are mapped down to individual companies and Wagner is just a corps, looks fair to me.
Ukraine only has one brigade in Soledar, map shows three. Something tells me it's just vodka addled vision blur
>only has one brigade in Soledar
Any proof of that statement anon. At least the one who create OP's picture have some source.
There's only 46th airmobile brigade in Soledar. How do I prove there's no other brigades there?
There's 2 on the outskirts to hold the door open at the back for 46th AirMobile brigade
There's 10th Jaeger brigade in the area, where someone plastered 5 more brigades
>Something tells me it's just vodka addled vision blur
Yes but actually it has more to do with the fact that its made by a Russian guy
and they arent stupid enough to pinpoint their own locations
so they just leave it hella vague
Though this map is still cope since they have no clue what units are actually there
I assume half the units on this map arent even real and its just cope for them to explain why they havent taken it yet
can we stop pretending le ukraine is winning now?
kopers on suicide watch about hohols collapsing in Donbas.
>battle of Thermopylae
Is nobody gonna tell him?