>miss the railway station, hit a mall and kill a bunch of innocent civilians
>slightly clip the factory, damage a park and a canal
Is this the best achievable performance by Russia's guided missiles against big, unarmoured, static targets?
>miss the railway station, hit a mall and kill a bunch of innocent civilians
If they are within range, they are not civilians.
It is only partisan fighters when its advantageous to be called one? No. Such things by this point are implied.
Damn those partisan fighters and their partisan activities! Obtaining vodka, bread, and salo is not allowed and is punishable with a cruise missile firing squad.
>thinks an army survives without food
That's not how it works, but thank you for showing that you're a degenerate subhuman.
They are using ancient Kh-22 which was designed to carry nuclear payload and destroy carrier strike groups. Not exactly a precise weapon.
Why not then use weapons that actually are capable of accuracy?
maybe they finally ran low on kalibrs and iskanders.
there are not enough left, much was wasted to hit commiblocks
Pretty sure they're nearly out of those.
Can't use what you don't have
Because they have many KH22s and no real use for them. I think this whole shitshow has been a moronic shitpost to clear out old stock instead of decommissioning it. Pretty sure if USA had even 5% failure rate compared to some of the the Russian munitions used in this, they would destroy the entire stockpile in a desert somewhere and rotate stock for the new shit that will take up it's storage space.
They've also just managed to nail a stadium in Mykolaiv
>This is the Russian response to Wagner group being btfo in the Kadiivka stadium
GOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLL
dunno looks like a direct hit to me
Yeah, on the mall. You can see the intact factory in the background, those rows of small buildings on the upper left of your picture are these.
That's the mall you dumb frick
This is war. Russia is not making the same mistake as the US did in Iraq and Afghanistan, fighting with your hands tied behind your back. When I play AoE II I also try to kill as many civilians as possible when attacking a village before I attack the main military force. Remove the productive assets of your enemy and see them crumble. Same principle here, and a great way of putting old weapons to use.
didn't invade to liberate oppressed ethnic russians?
They live in the east, welcoming Russian liberators. Kramachuk is in the middle, it must be cleansed first.
They're liberating them from their lives and property.
>When I play AoE II
You must be 18 years or older to post here.
AoE II was released in 1999.
You do realise how old that game is right.
If that's underage you're gonna hate the modern games I play. I must be an infant.
>Russia doesn't advance
>"Russia is generous and avoids civilian casualties!"
>Russia bombs civilian targets
>"Russia is smart and wages a war of destruction!"
>
>Wasting ammo on civilians is a good idea actually
>Terror bombing totally works guys
>Why yes we are committing genocide
God I fricking hate you vatnik c**ts
But it did work...against germany anyways.
Did it? Arguably the hundreds of millions of bombs/artillery were nothing like the odd ASM
You're only comprehending what WW2 was like in very small portions of the donbass.
Except it didn't. Terror bombing accomplished nothing more than to drive up the body counts on both sides because the steady flow of propaganda material caused quite a lot of german soldiers to fight to the bitter end rather than surrender. Likewise, the civilian populace became more determined to support their government and more determined to suffer through shortages like food and medicine. It required a direct invasion with boots on the ground to cause Germany to surrender.
>When I play AOE II I also try to kill as many civilians as possible
thank god you /chug/Black folk and/or vatniks will never be allowed anywhere near the interior of a government building, especially once Russia finally pulls out of Ukraine in defeat.
what's the main demographic of /chug/? Russian expats? Authoritarian bootlickers in general?
/chug/ is about 99% "BASED RUSSIA FIGHTING FOR THE WHOLE WORLD TO BTFO THE GLOBOHOMO" useful idiots and 1% actual Russians
80% third worlders (south Americans, southeast Asians, Africans and Arabs) with an inferiority complex seething at the West, 19% demoralised Westerners believing in muh bastion of the white race, 1% actual Russians.
>South Americans
To this day I am still so confused as to why so many South Americans want to go against their own national and economic interests and break away from the West. Maybe it would make a lot more sense if Russia was this powerhouse superpower but we all know they aren't, and China isn't going to focus a single brain cell on SA because they're busy with Africa and the rest of Asia.
If you talk to anyone south of the border you'll find that they blame America for all of their problems.
I don't need to, I have a friend from Brazil and all he ever fricking does as of recent is b***h about CIA glow Black folk ruined everything in the 2000s and how based Russia is going to destroy the israelites forever. This war is just the extension of Q ruining people's minds.
/pol/tards and third worlders.
I dunno, but they got literal pedos and trannies among the posters. Still for some odd reason the thread seems to be left alone by the rest of /misc/ despite all that.
tankies (big overlap with leftypol), turd worlders seething at western civilization, vatniks, pedos, demoralized poltards and actual deployed vatnik shill farms.
Shitposters
Hey it's not just any factory. It's a factory for road building equipment!
Since the start Russia missles have had 20% fail to launch 20%crash midflight 40% miss target by 100m+.
Remember although we keep saying "Russia" Russia is only 30years old madmax like mafia organisation that looted the USSR. All of its weapons were developed by the USSR 30 years ago. It's most advanced missiles where 90% developed by the USSR in the 90s before it collapsed, but it took "Russia" 20+ years to get a limited production line going.
Anything new Russia says it invented is either a paper parade version they could never mass produce, or renamed USSR made the old USSR factory lines, but actually a bit worse because the guys that knew how to run the factory retired or left the country.
I can understand that russian weapons are not as precise as western ones, but this is ridiculous. They had since 1991 to 2015 to buy electronics to make precise weapons since it's obvious they can't make their own. Christ, the fricking missiles that turks use on their TB2s are way ahead of anything Russia has.
The Kremlin massively overvalued their own geopolitical importance, an inherited narcissism from the USSR's glory days only made worse by decades of Russian seething at being just another second-tier country.
They genuinely did not seem to believe that Europe would be willing to pivot away from Russian fuel voluntarily or risk being cut off by placing technology import sanctions. They did not seem to understand that China only viewed them as a useful tool to frick with the American world order and wasn't going to risk access to international markets for a country with an economy smaller than fricking Canada, a country with just over a quarter of Russia's population. To the Russian mind their country is too powerful and important to be treated with cold economic and political calculus by other states, which just isn't true.
>They genuinely did not seem to believe that Europe would be willing to pivot away from Russian fuel voluntarily
The irony here is that they used DECADES to set the whole energy dependency thing up, fueling the anti-nuclear green movement in Germany and overall using time and resources while getting tons of money.
And now they flushed it down the toilet. THEY did, there was no input into this from EU. It's beyond stupid, delusional even.
This is because the west doesn't export advanced electronics to Russia anymore since 2014. In a way, this is the west's fault by forcing Russia to use less advanced weapons.
That's why I said since 1991 to 2015. They could have made a more than decent stock of Tomahawk like LACM with western electronics (or even chinese ffs) but instead they got their ultra shitty Kalibr in stupid numbers. It makes no sense at all. In 2010 Russia started a big modernization program and they failed miserably. They were supposed to have a great intelligence branch which shpuld have addresed these problems.
The guy in charge of actual modernization god canned in favor of someone who let the grift and corruption continue.
The Russians are trying to put on a show of strength leading up to the NATO summits, it's why their space agency is also coincidentally showing underwhelming resolution satellite images of NATO facilities today. The current understanding is the mall was hit by a fricking anti-ship missile, it's clear the Russians are trying to project strength as a deterrent but are also trying to cut corners to prolong their offensive abilities - they have the ability to manufacture weapons systems but not the integral advanced components, it's why they have to tape fricking cellphones inside their planes and helicopters as a workaround for inability to produce quality GPS systems internally or import them due to sanctions.
Most civilian gps will fail after going above 60,000 feet or more than 1200kph.
Russia is supposed to have Glonass but god knows if they actually use it.
The west doesn't even show hi rez pics of shit because you don't want your enemies to know what capability you really have.
Ever seen the Apache chopper videos of them blowing away shit skins? Do you think Apache choppers have low res cameras and screens?
50 hato ducks destroyed
There hohols were hiding one of their submarines there.
Also those ducks were carriers for the pathogen developed in the biolabs.
Are you sure targeting civilians will help Russia win this conquest?
Targeting?
>russians unironically claiming they hit a depot of HIMARS and they cooked off and fired at the mall
>russians have no concept of insensitive munition standards
>Russians unironically claiming they hit a depot of HIMARS and they cooked off and fired at the mall
Russians are so full of shit
many such cases
>Lavrov said that the mall was close.
I don't even know how to respond to such hypocritical lies.
Now we got video of the x-22 hitting the mall ffs. Wonder what their new spin will be.
Make fun of them or ridicule them for saying it, then remember it, put it on the big pile of known russian lies in your head and keep it in mind when russians or their internet defenders open their mouth next time. Rinse and repeat.
What planet is Lavarov even living on at this point
Ours.
You don't actually think he believes a single word of what he says, right? He's lying, we know that he's lying and he knows that we know.
The implied stance of his lies, then, is this
>I lied, yes. What are you gonna do about it?
it's what you get when you are scraping the bottom of your ammo stockpile barrel, by using anti ship missile for ground target
if only the russians saved their kalibr missiles instead of blowing up hospitals and kindergartens with them...
How were they supposed to be able to hit ships with these missiles if they can't hit stationary civilian targets that are many acres wide???
i'm guessing a ship in the sea is easy to lock on, instead of shooting at a ground target, with many things to lock on
they are supposed to have nuclear warheads
doesnt matter if you miss by 500 meters with those
They have RADAR guidance, they... shit...
>The cruise missile version is also designed to target enemy ships, as well as radars, and "radio-contrast targets" like bridges, military bases, electric power plants, and others.
>"radio-contrast targets"
No wonder it hit the mall. It's a square building with a large metal-lined roof.
this is assuming they used the modernized Kh-32 and not a Kh-22 last-serviced before the fall of the USSR like they did on Odessa
Dark radome area looks like Kh-32 rather than Kh-22's larger one
wait, that was their other target? a bunch of construction equipment in an asphalt plant? why?
Did you miss
?
It's not a question of targets if they actually used Kh-32, it will slap itself towards the largest metal clump in the area.
Like all that road-construction machinery, cisterns, cranes and... whatever that rusty metal skeleton in the bushes is.
Russia's idea of "precision" is a sub-500m CEP
Like most anti ship missiles, it uses INS to guide itself to the general area of the target, then switches to active radar to lock on and guide itself the rest of the way. Large buildings tend to look the same to active radar.
Best part is they're only claiming to have aimed for the factory after the fact.
>Oh, we missed the logistics hub, but we clipped... some sort of factory? Satelite image is absolute shit, I guess it's a factory and a warehouse, look at it burn. Quick, claim we hit some HIMARS!
Real smart putting a munitions factory in close proximity to a shopping mall.
Pictured: bullet making equipment.
"Why did you force me to hit you?! This is all your fault BAKA!"
Funny how the other thread got deleted as soon as we saw proof the mall didn't get hit.
Still waiting on that proof.
Missile 1
jesus christ krautanon you're STILL posting? You were posting 12 hours ago, 8 hours ago and 5 hours ago the times I went on. Were you posting when you woke up before noon?
Not only that, on average you posted 15 - 40 times in various chug threads per DAY, across countless days. I would've dug deeper after 15 minutes but even someone autistic as me has shit to do.
What the frick man?
Voices in the walls status: heard
Your second video clearly shows the missile hit behind the treeline, so it looks like it hit the mall or right before it. Your second picture also shows where the treeline is, you should have noticed this when you actually have looked into it. I'm gonna assume you are a russian shill who is trying to spread lies.
I'm gonna side with
on this one.
You can clearly see the blue observation pod to the left on street view and the camera looking at it from the side of the mall. So I take it you're stupid.
And? How is this hanging anything? The camera angle from your second video
is made clear in the picture of
, the hit is clearly behind the trees. Hence why it either hit the mall or near before it.
You russian shills really have no honor.
>And? How is this hanging anything?
I don't believe you're really that stupid, you're just trying to find any saving grace for making a mistake, right? Or are you just using that tactic of shitflinging to obfuscate facts?
The camera is facing away from the mall into the factory yard you double moron.
Which camera in which picture or video, liar? The picture in
shows it's position on the tracks, factory on the left, mall on the right. Your second videos camera angle is explained in the picture of
.
Literally non is facing away from the mall.
Then maybe
can explain where all those trees to the left of the observation pod in the video went. Or the observation pod itself for that matter.
The place is the side filming into the storage yard.
>can explain where all those trees to the left of the observation pod in the video went
I just looked at the whole city on Google Maps and it seems ALL the tree's have gone, leaving only a vague husk-like skelleton behind.
My god, anon, you might be on to something. Maybe something leaked from one of the biolabs, I dunno.
The trees are literally right below the red circle with red cross in the picture of
, you are the one playing dumb now, shill.
You also didn't answer the question, don't think i didn't notice.
>The place is the side filming into the storage yard.
You are being vague on purpose. Just use MS Paint or whatever to illustrate what the camera is filming in the video you posted here
And make sure to outline the observation pod, storage yard and the crane. I can not give you a more simple instruction.
>explain where all those trees
>the vatnik shill doesn't understand autumn
Lol
Lmao, even
Since i just noticed it, the yellow circle on the satellite part seems wrong, i suspect it should be a little further to the left on the tall thin thing casting the long shadow.
>I don't believe you're really that stupid, you're just trying to find any saving grace for making a mistake, right? Or are you just using that tactic of shitflinging to obfuscate facts?
Exactly thinking that when i read your posts.
Missile 2
>wall of factory complex collapsed
>so missle must've hit the factory side of that wall, mot on the mall side
>dude trust me bro
Another moron. Maybe read this:
...
In the video, there is the blue observation pod, a storage yard and a crane on the far right. Behind all that is a tree line, beyond the grounds of the factory. The missile hits behind that tree line.
Maybe you can enlighten us and paint a picture of what the camera is looking at when the missile hits. Point me to the place where there is a "storage yard with crane", a tree line behind that, and more of the factory complex behind that tree line.
He know it's a lie, he's just trying to drag this on until we give up or he could turn the discussion into shitflinging, so he doesn't have to admit he's clearly spreading a lie. Peek vatnik shill behaviour.
dont take the bait moron
but anyway because it's related, when originally geolocating, I also assumed the post
mentioned was the one in the video, but the angle what was included in the angle made zero sense for what was in it.
It was difficult to notice at first, but if you rotate the satellite photo to the angle it was taken to get a better grasp of the perspective...
We can see a second observation post next to a small building.
With that, we can see in the original drone photo that building with the observation post is off screen to the right. I also didn't add in the fence to the right of the new video, it's added to the new ones. I also assumed the white circled building was it at first, but it looks like it's just a small box-hut thing.
It was fun geolocating for the first time, but I suggest you guys stop taking the bait from this guy.
Correction to the left of the frame of the new video.
Nice get.
Here's the closest I can zoom in on Google maps, we can see the roof of the observation post is level with the roof of the building, a bit hard to see, but we can see the legs of the structure as well.
Anyway I still got other shit to finish, promise me you guys won't take obvious bait kthx
Thanks for the work, anon. It's appreciated.
oh yeah here it is.
it looks like it landed either a few meters away from the building, or hit the side wall of the mall. Either scenario will cause severe damage to the building from the fireball and blast wave from the 1000kg warhead.
>the resulting hole measured 5m in diameter, 19.6m2 in area, and was 12m deep.
>the 1000kg warhead.
The missile in the security cam video looks more like a Kh-32 than a Kh-22, the Kh-32 has a reduced warhead of 500kg to expand the range of the missile.
You’re dumb, look up what a kh-22 looks like
Picture is shit though.
Look at locations of yellow tower and red arc relative to each other.
Dude, this is 60s sovet missiles. They did not explode on the plane is already achievement.
When its run out, vatnig will be made Hama's levl rockets.
Remains of a Russian Kh-22 missile from May
Sources:
vk com/milinfolive?w=wall-123538639_2642440
http://www.b14643 de/Spacerockets/Specials/KB-Isayev_engines/index.htm
One civilian got killed and 19 got injured.
Take your meds.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/27/10-killed-from-russian-missile-strike-on-ukrainian-shopping-mall
>At least 16 killed
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-missiles-hit-crowded-shopping-mall-central-ukraine-zelenskiy-2022-06-27/
>killing at least 16 people and wounding 59
Why do vatniks lie so much?
Meanwhile an airfield in Kursk is on fire.
>Why do vatniks lie so much?
Whenever they accidentally tell the truth, they get one less krokodil.
the truth in Russia is widespread misery and hopelessness, lying is just an easy way out of it
God you trash are dumb. The Ukrainian propagandist DID make sure to mention the obvious target, a military factory they claim was 200m away. That’s a LIE the factory was right next to the mall, less than 100m away, the missiles hit the factory. However it’s assumed that a fire spread from the factory (supposedly making MLRS rockets but this is unconfirmed) to the mall.
No, the russians hit the mall or right before it, see picture in
.
mall in ruins, factories intact nice aim
Vatniks can lie all they want, people are going to be pissed and they're going to deal with actual terrorist attacks eventually.
pure kino tho