Ok at this point these guns are more like paperweights to me (I own a Mauser and a Lee Enfield) due to the price or scarcity of the ammo. I can never find range ammo in shops, and when it is available, it's $2-3 per bullet.
Should I just sell these guns? Trade them in for a milsurp that fires a more common round?
You'll never find ammo, those guns are worthless. Sell them to me (a based reloader) for cheap
Why reload when you can just buy surplus ammo though?
>surplus ammo
>cheap
>available
>2022
Availability. Surplus will dry up eventually. I’ve got a Carcano in 7.35, try reliably getting surp ammo for that
No wonder they were selling them for so cheap lol
Take the SKS pill
I'll look into it bc I think at this point russian guns are the only ones that have cheap ammo
Think you have trouble, mate? I have a Swedish P1907 that only shoots 9mm Browning and the shopkeepers look like I asked for the Ark of the Covenant when I mention it.
>9mm Browning
>9x20
What the frick. I own some 9x21 Largo and 9x23 Steyr ammo and I thought that was a (somewhat) obscure 9mm to anyone who doesn't own a Bergmann or 1912.
Why IS .303 so fricked? Cheapest options are (in this order, 84.9cpr to 94.9cpr) MK VII corrosive, Indian, Turkish, Turkish. I never really understood why it seemed so bad pre-covid, either. Then again I don't own a .303 so I don't really know what it was like.
Man, PPU is such an ass saver. I hope their stuff starts popping up near what they used to. Sub $1/rd .30-30 hunting ammo was nice.
PPU is incredibly fun to shoot but yeah, like I said, it's never available for me or incredibly expensive. Last time I bought a box of 20, I paid $35
Sell a usable gun made to stand the test of time?
No.
Stock them up & know how to use it.
What's the worst that can happen if you're being financially savey? You have to store it fund ammo occasionally, and clean.
>I can never find range ammo in shops, and when it is available, it's $2-3 per bullet.
Bullshit s&b and ppu used to be 50-60ct a pop for 8mm/303 but they aren't 2$ a shot now, look online.
And look on reloading, .311 billits for 303 are still common and you can make cheap plinking ammo easy
Or you can also swap your 8 mauser for a 308 rebarreled one ( spanish, idf, uk etc)
Just lurk moar subhuman zoomie
I've stopped seeing PPU or S&B ammo for either of my guns after the whole COVID bullshit. I have to order it through a shop and then wait until one of these companies do an ammo run
Maybe I'll do a rebarreling if it's worth it
I literally just had a thousand rounds of 8mm come in at 44 cents a round what the frick are you smoking
>.303
Yeah you're fricked on that one though
Only thing I see sell for that cheap is corrosive surplus ammo, but I'm looking for range ammo.
>not just ordering your special snowflake bullets online
Either way .303 Brit is definitely a tough one in the states, but anything Mauser related is still good to go if only for their hunting potential.
Forget to mention that I'm in a moronic state so I can't do that. No one ships to me unless it's surplus steel core ammo from 1940
I completely forgot you guys actually exist, in which case RIP. Maybe one day you guys can get rid of that stupid shit.
God only knows but moronic state = moronic people so it'll be a while before that changes.
just start reloading. 303 brit uses same bullet diameter as 7.62x54r and 7.62x39. prob could reload it for 50cpr.
So with reloading should I get a single stage press or invest the extra into a turret one?
you can get these old lyman t mag turret presses on ebay for around $100. thats what I use, got mine from my dad he bought in like the 80s or some shit. each turret holds 6 dies so you can switch between calibers easy without having to reset up shit, and switch dies easy. When i'm loading pistol ammo like 45 acp i like to use the case flaring die and drop the powder in the case and then turn the turret to the bullet seating die and seat the bullet all at once so theres no chance of a double charge. i have an rcbs chargemaster light that automatically measures the powder for the next bullet while i'm doing that so it's pretty fast and efficient
single stage. keep it simple for now
Alright thanks yall for the suggestions. I'll start researching everything about reloading today
I’ll buy them anon
Dont buy guns in moronic outdated ammo anon. Legit, its like dumbasses buying Jap rifles and paying basically 40$ a box for brass that only half work.
If every weeb and chainsmoking bubba didnt get all the SKS' then Id say sell those and look for one.
Really I just love the history aspect more. It's fascinating that you can shoot historic guns from the world war and that they're still accurate.
But yeah, if the hassle of reloading or paying for overpriced ammo becomes too much then I'll sell them
I've never understood why nobody outside of niche vendors took up selling new production Arisaka ammo. There's tons of rifles floating around in America, yet no ammo. Prvi will go and make new fricking 8mm Lebel ammo, but not 7.7 Jap?
I wanted to start shooting my lee enfield but I decided to put that off for a few years while my finances and the market recovers
checking ammoseek there's some decent cheap nonsurplus fmj for sale and only a single offering of soft point for 225 cpr
speaking of I heard recommendations that PPU ammo, when it's available, is better suited for the lee than american commercial stuff, anyone have experience with them or S&B and is there danger in shooting the surplus stuff?
I don't wanna get into reloading for a few years (still in uni) but I feel like all roads are leading to it
main reason I wanted to hunt with the lee is I wanna buy one of them 50 buck repro bayonets and larp hunt hog with it
>heard recommendations that PPU ammo, when it's available, is better suited for the lee than american commercial stuff, anyone have experience with them or S&B and is there danger in shooting the surplus stuff?
S&B and PPU both are great. Never had an issue with either. As for surplus ammo, I guess it depends on the round. In general, surplus rounds tend to be corrosive, so you need to clean the rifle right after. Usually they're steel, not lead core, so ranges might not let you shoot them (they can destroy steel targets), and they can experience issues - duds or hang fires due to age or poor storage. For 8mm mauser specifically, avoid Turkish surplus because they're hot. That could crack the rifle or worse. With .303 I've never had hot rounds but something to keep in mind.
>I don't wanna get into reloading for a few years (still in uni) but I feel like all roads are leading to it
lol same exact situation - I have little options now because long gone are the days of cheap, bulk surplus .303 ammo - it's practically non existent now.
>With .303 I've never had hot rounds but something to keep in mind.
Avoid any old cordite rounds. Look for the Z on the case and again avoid the WW2 surplus.
Poor storage of these rounds leads to physical degradation of the powder. The finer powder has massivley boosted pressure.
Good to know then. And I feel at this point WW2 (and before) rounds are pretty much aimed at collectors or enthusiasts because of their price.
Why sell them? Just keep them and buy guns you can shoot.
>noo you can't shoot that Mk.VII
Haha mad minute go brrr
Khyber pass ammo?