Milsurp Gun Woes

Ok at this point these guns are more like paperweights to me (I own a Mauser and a Lee Enfield) due to the price or scarcity of the ammo. I can never find range ammo in shops, and when it is available, it's $2-3 per bullet.

Should I just sell these guns? Trade them in for a milsurp that fires a more common round?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You'll never find ammo, those guns are worthless. Sell them to me (a based reloader) for cheap

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why reload when you can just buy surplus ammo though?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >surplus ammo
        >cheap
        >available
        >2022

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Availability. Surplus will dry up eventually. I’ve got a Carcano in 7.35, try reliably getting surp ammo for that

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No wonder they were selling them for so cheap lol

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Take the SKS pill

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'll look into it bc I think at this point russian guns are the only ones that have cheap ammo

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Think you have trouble, mate? I have a Swedish P1907 that only shoots 9mm Browning and the shopkeepers look like I asked for the Ark of the Covenant when I mention it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >9mm Browning
      >9x20
      What the fuck. I own some 9x21 Largo and 9x23 Steyr ammo and I thought that was a (somewhat) obscure 9mm to anyone who doesn't own a Bergmann or 1912.

      I literally just had a thousand rounds of 8mm come in at 44 cents a round what the fuck are you smoking
      >.303
      Yeah you're fucked on that one though

      Why IS .303 so fucked? Cheapest options are (in this order, 84.9cpr to 94.9cpr) MK VII corrosive, Indian, Turkish, Turkish. I never really understood why it seemed so bad pre-covid, either. Then again I don't own a .303 so I don't really know what it was like.

      I've stopped seeing PPU or S&B ammo for either of my guns after the whole COVID bullshit. I have to order it through a shop and then wait until one of these companies do an ammo run

      Maybe I'll do a rebarreling if it's worth it

      Man, PPU is such an ass saver. I hope their stuff starts popping up near what they used to. Sub $1/rd .30-30 hunting ammo was nice.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        PPU is incredibly fun to shoot but yeah, like I said, it's never available for me or incredibly expensive. Last time I bought a box of 20, I paid $35

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sell a usable gun made to stand the test of time?
    No.
    Stock them up & know how to use it.
    What's the worst that can happen if you're being financially savey? You have to store it fund ammo occasionally, and clean.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I can never find range ammo in shops, and when it is available, it's $2-3 per bullet.

    Bullshit s&b and ppu used to be 50-60ct a pop for 8mm/303 but they aren't 2$ a shot now, look online.
    And look on reloading, .311 billits for 303 are still common and you can make cheap plinking ammo easy

    Or you can also swap your 8 mauser for a 308 rebarreled one ( spanish, idf, uk etc)

    Just lurk moar subhuman zoomie

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've stopped seeing PPU or S&B ammo for either of my guns after the whole COVID bullshit. I have to order it through a shop and then wait until one of these companies do an ammo run

      Maybe I'll do a rebarreling if it's worth it

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I literally just had a thousand rounds of 8mm come in at 44 cents a round what the fuck are you smoking
    >.303
    Yeah you're fucked on that one though

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Only thing I see sell for that cheap is corrosive surplus ammo, but I'm looking for range ammo.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >not just ordering your special snowflake bullets online
    Either way .303 Brit is definitely a tough one in the states, but anything Mauser related is still good to go if only for their hunting potential.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Forget to mention that I'm in a retarded state so I can't do that. No one ships to me unless it's surplus steel core ammo from 1940

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I completely forgot you guys actually exist, in which case RIP. Maybe one day you guys can get rid of that stupid shit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          God only knows but retarded state = retarded people so it'll be a while before that changes.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just start reloading. 303 brit uses same bullet diameter as 7.62x54r and 7.62x39. prob could reload it for 50cpr.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So with reloading should I get a single stage press or invest the extra into a turret one?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you can get these old lyman t mag turret presses on ebay for around $100. thats what I use, got mine from my dad he bought in like the 80s or some shit. each turret holds 6 dies so you can switch between calibers easy without having to reset up shit, and switch dies easy. When i'm loading pistol ammo like 45 acp i like to use the case flaring die and drop the powder in the case and then turn the turret to the bullet seating die and seat the bullet all at once so theres no chance of a double charge. i have an rcbs chargemaster light that automatically measures the powder for the next bullet while i'm doing that so it's pretty fast and efficient

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        single stage. keep it simple for now

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          you can get these old lyman t mag turret presses on ebay for around $100. thats what I use, got mine from my dad he bought in like the 80s or some shit. each turret holds 6 dies so you can switch between calibers easy without having to reset up shit, and switch dies easy. When i'm loading pistol ammo like 45 acp i like to use the case flaring die and drop the powder in the case and then turn the turret to the bullet seating die and seat the bullet all at once so theres no chance of a double charge. i have an rcbs chargemaster light that automatically measures the powder for the next bullet while i'm doing that so it's pretty fast and efficient

          Alright thanks yall for the suggestions. I'll start researching everything about reloading today

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’ll buy them anon

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dont buy guns in retarded outdated ammo anon. Legit, its like dumbasses buying Jap rifles and paying basically 40$ a box for brass that only half work.

    If every weeb and chainsmoking bubba didnt get all the SKS' then Id say sell those and look for one.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Really I just love the history aspect more. It's fascinating that you can shoot historic guns from the world war and that they're still accurate.

      But yeah, if the hassle of reloading or paying for overpriced ammo becomes too much then I'll sell them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've never understood why nobody outside of niche vendors took up selling new production Arisaka ammo. There's tons of rifles floating around in America, yet no ammo. Prvi will go and make new fucking 8mm Lebel ammo, but not 7.7 Jap?

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I wanted to start shooting my lee enfield but I decided to put that off for a few years while my finances and the market recovers
    checking ammoseek there's some decent cheap nonsurplus fmj for sale and only a single offering of soft point for 225 cpr
    speaking of I heard recommendations that PPU ammo, when it's available, is better suited for the lee than american commercial stuff, anyone have experience with them or S&B and is there danger in shooting the surplus stuff?
    I don't wanna get into reloading for a few years (still in uni) but I feel like all roads are leading to it
    main reason I wanted to hunt with the lee is I wanna buy one of them 50 buck repro bayonets and larp hunt hog with it

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >heard recommendations that PPU ammo, when it's available, is better suited for the lee than american commercial stuff, anyone have experience with them or S&B and is there danger in shooting the surplus stuff?
      S&B and PPU both are great. Never had an issue with either. As for surplus ammo, I guess it depends on the round. In general, surplus rounds tend to be corrosive, so you need to clean the rifle right after. Usually they're steel, not lead core, so ranges might not let you shoot them (they can destroy steel targets), and they can experience issues - duds or hang fires due to age or poor storage. For 8mm mauser specifically, avoid Turkish surplus because they're hot. That could crack the rifle or worse. With .303 I've never had hot rounds but something to keep in mind.

      >I don't wanna get into reloading for a few years (still in uni) but I feel like all roads are leading to it
      lol same exact situation - I have little options now because long gone are the days of cheap, bulk surplus .303 ammo - it's practically non existent now.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >With .303 I've never had hot rounds but something to keep in mind.
        Avoid any old cordite rounds. Look for the Z on the case and again avoid the WW2 surplus.
        Poor storage of these rounds leads to physical degradation of the powder. The finer powder has massivley boosted pressure.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Good to know then. And I feel at this point WW2 (and before) rounds are pretty much aimed at collectors or enthusiasts because of their price.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why sell them? Just keep them and buy guns you can shoot.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >noo you can't shoot that Mk.VII
    Haha mad minute go brrr

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Khyber pass ammo?

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