Militarization of Space

The DoD wants to use Starship for 1 hr earth to earth delivery

How else could Starship be militarized by the Space Force/DoD?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Starship is really more of a means to an end, that being cheap large scale orbital structures.
    Think affordable military space stations alongside some sort of ODST style drop system.
    Although we don't want Kessler syndrome.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fill it with US paratroopers on a glider. Or bombs.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How else could Starship be militarized by the Space Force/DoD?
    Space supremacy with Mk41 VLS cells and a big boy chemical laser

    Yes tactical length Mk41 cells fit, I've checked

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >THEY ACTUALLY FUCKING FIT
      undisclosed contract requirement?
      I bet they'd run mostly SM3 alongside a few SM2/6s reconfigured for exoatmospheric maneuvering

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I've checked
      Based

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I feel like Starship could send up satellites with a 1 or 2 module Mk 41 VLS (8-16 cells) with an attached satellite bus for orientation, station keeping, communications, and solar panels for power generation.

      Placed in a mid-orbit constellation above LEO and below GEO would give them the capability to strike ICBMs in their ascent or midcourse phase, AND even potentially be used to take out enemy GEO satellites in higher orbits that current ground-based missiles can't hit.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I've checked
        Based

        https://i.imgur.com/tO5z4wu.jpg

        >THEY ACTUALLY FUCKING FIT
        undisclosed contract requirement?
        I bet they'd run mostly SM3 alongside a few SM2/6s reconfigured for exoatmospheric maneuvering

        people underestimate how fucking BIG starship is

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not saying it would just send a single satellite at a time, just you probably wouldn't really want more than 8-16 VLS cells on any single satellite.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          dde samuel b roberts for scale

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the guns have questionable utility
          better off with either RIM launcher or lasers

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pfff you and your space ships. Space as been militarized since the first coms satellite was put in orbit.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >How else could Starship be militarized by the Space Force/DoD?
    Rods from god

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here is the problem with Rods from God, you're almost certainly familiar with the saying,
      >What goes up, must come down
      Well this works the other way too. When taking stuff to space, the amount of energy required to take a rod to space is roughly proprtional and always greater than the amount of energy you get from dropping the rod. Now take a high explosive warhead, the energy on target is equivalent to the mass of explosive in the warhead with minimal effects from the Kinetic energy of the delivery system.

      And with those Explosive weapons, you don't have to spend all that energy to push the weapon into orbit, you can use an BM or Cruise Missile for less energy cost. In an (energy) cost-benefit analysis, it would be very hard to justify a Rod from God.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Rods from God don't real (and checked btw), but you know what does work from a physics standpoint? Rocks from the belt.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The DoD wants to use Starship for 1 hr earth to earth delivery
    you mean like an icbm?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, but instead of delivering nuclear destruction, it can deliver humanitarian aid, troops, equipment, munitions, and spare/replacement parts for strategic assets (jets, helicopters, tanks, etc)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        that sounds insanely dumb

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ship tonnes of shit in 1hr anywhere on earth
          >retarded
          bro please

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I wonder what could be so urgent, survive a rocket launch and be worth risking nuclear retaliation over that can't be shipped by more conventional means.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              By that logic any rocket launch is risking nuclear retaliation since the payload COULD be a nuclear warhead.

              Any classified USAF satellite launch COULD be a satellite with the ability to re-enter anywhere on earth concealing a nuclear warhead inside.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                sure but what about the other arguments?
                Such as this being comically expensive and there is NOTHING urgent enough to ship like that.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >comically expensive
                rockets are comically more expensive than they need to be if you're throwing the entire rocket away each time, Starship doesn't do that, it's much cheaper than you think

                >nothing urgent enough
                dropping an entire battalion of marines into Taipei before the PLA lands

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Starship doesn't do that, it's much cheaper than you think
                Still magnitudes more expensive than yknow, a plane.

                >dropping an entire battalion of marines into Taipei before the PLA lands
                I am pretty sure, it is faster to just put them in a plane and fly them there.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >it is faster to just put them in a plane and fly them there
                Not if you have a Starship standing at launch readiness, I'm not sure how you think a subsonic C-17 out of Virginia is going to beat a Starship out of Texas to Taiwan

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Not if you have a Starship standing at launch readiness
                You have to get the guys into the rocket and getting them ready to launch takes a good while. Or are all the starship marines just sitting there with their suits and diapers already on?
                What if they need a change?
                They also need to take them off again when they land, yknow.

                You can't just tell them to get onto the plane.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All these things apply to loading a C-17, too. Presumably if the DoD wanted to seriously explore Starship in this role, they'd build a launch pad at Eglin or Wallops or something. So how does the C-17 "get there faster"?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >So how does the C-17 "get there faster"?
                Fundamentally, the organizational and technological overhead and risk of a rocket launch is much, much bigger than the overhead of a plane launch. This is completely trivial.

                Therefore, the question isn't really "which thing goes faster", but "which thing can launch sooner", because the time you save in travel time, you're making up for in preparation time.
                And once again, there are things where cost is an issue, this is one of them. There is so much MORE overhead than just the launches. You need to train people, because you can't just stick a guy into a rocket and expect them to handle it well and be combat ready immediately afterwards, so you need training launches and people specifically trained for rocket deployment.

                What argument is there really for shooting guys in rockets as opposed to having them ride a (relatively) comfy plane? Speed isn't the only thing that matters in a transportation method. Convenience is king and this also applies to the military.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >and be worth risking nuclear retaliation over
              so did you just ignore the post explaining why that's a stupid meme or did you miss it somehow

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You retard, nothing is going anywhere in an hour

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like an ICBM, but with a reentry vehicle the size of a 747 and an aircraft transponder. Following your logic would have us ban cargo planes because they "might look like bombers". A radar will not struggle to seperate a 1m cross section target from a 500m cross section target.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The DoD wants to use Starship for 1 hr earth to earth delivery
    >Truck package to a remote swamp in Texas. Wait another week or more to get a safe weather window to luanch.

    You know about Amazon Prime right?

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    20 delta force operators anywhere on earth in an hour…that’s game changing. For ever.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >20 operators
      anon, you have 100 tons per Starship to work with, dream bigger

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How many W76-2s could this drop? Low yield precision CAS.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >reentry vehicle and warhead is estimated 95kg
        >starship nameplate capacity 100 tons LEO
        ~950

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You retard, nothing is going anywhere in an hour

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Remember how everyone criticized big bad orange man for creating the Space Force despite the fact that it was an organization that will be needed within the next decade? I remember. And before I get someone saying "Oh you like Trump hahahaha", fuck Trump, fuck Obama, fuck Bush, fuck Hillary, fuck Nancy and fuck Biden. The true savior is Jeb.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never noticed that her rifle is also pointing straight at her gut

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >you will live to see american soldiers receive burger king resupplies from space while their enemies struggle to resupply anything further than walking distance from a railhead

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hamberder drop pods landing directly in your hand with airbrakes precisely calibrated to reach a comfy .2m/s on impact

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >they forgot the cheese

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >they forgot the cheese
          >load it in your MANPABCS and fire it back at germany

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it'll replace x-37b

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