I want to get a mildot scope so I can estimate range. Is there a difference in scale between a 10x, 12x, and a 16x? The military standard uses the 10x scope, but is the scale different in other magnification scopes?
I'm only talking about fixed power scopes.
Will the reticle be bigger/smaller or the same size in the different magnification scopes, and if so/not then what difference would it make?
I just want to make sure that my mildot master is compatible with other magnifications and to be sure that it will be accurate.
A non-FFP mildot scope with only be 'true' at the highest magnification. A fixed power scope will be true no matter what. You don't seem to understand what these angular measurements mean, and seem kinda retarded, but you got trips, so I'll give you a serious answer.
That's what I heard about variable power scopes, but I'm only interested in fixed power for the sake of consistency. SWFA seems to be the ONLY company making even close to an authentic mildot scope that is both affordable and not hidden behind mil/le sales only.
I see what you say about a fixed power being true no matter what, but I guess that's where I'm confused. Is a 10x and a 12x trued to the same standard/scale? Does the difference in magnification between the two affect the ranging with the mildots?
>I see what you say about a fixed power being true no matter what
An adjustable scope with a second focal plane (most scopes) only works at its highest magnification setting. You cannot use mildots or MOA marks at lower mags, they aren't accurate then.
An adjustable scope with first focal plane works at any magnification, the reticle will automatically change size as the zoom operates so the ranging works the same at any distance.
A fixed power scope always works because there's no adjustment to get in the way.
They are just as accurate at any magnification. You just need to do a little more basic math.
On a side note, I guess I would be ok with a variable power but only as long as it's first focal plane, but that is both rare and expensive when I looked.
It's not always the highest magnification. Read the manual that comes with your scope to be sure.
Regardless of magnification, the milliradian scale will (rather, "should") always indicate the same.
So ideally, if it's a 16X or a 4X, the space between two dots will still equal 10cm at 100 meters.
You'll occasionally encounter really shitty optics where this does not hold true.
That's the answer I was looking for, thank you anon for wording it like that.
So the 10x and the 12x will share that same value at 100 meters.
Does SWFA have any issue with these as you said some shitty scopes may? I've never heard anything bad about SWFA but it doesn't hurt to ask.
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Just get the 10x from SWFA and use it for a year. Then buy whatever you want. You'll save a lot of money this way
I've already got the 12x, but I was unsure of the 10cm = 100m bit.
Ok then.
There's really no huge difference.
Keep your scope and use it for a while and everything will make better sense.
What you have is just fine
>Does SWFA have any issue with these as you said some shitty scopes may?
I've not dealt with them personally, but for what they charge, you'd damn well better not.
What on earth are you talking about
https://www.leupold.com/mark-6-3-18x44-m5b2-ffp-mil-dot-riflescope
THIS is the scope I want, but why are they always discontinued?
Well, not exactly.
https://www.leupold.com/mark-3hd-3-9x40-30mm-p5-mildot
One like this but with extra magnification. This is the only one I've found so far that fits the bill for an acceptable price, but nothing with more magnification so far.
Leupold really only made them as part of the DAGR contract and then a few prod cycles for civ sales. The MK6 3-18 is the sweetheart of the generation and I too wish they still made them. Now if you want Leupy you have to buy an odd sized and overweight MK5HD
The issue with that is that the reticles only come in duplex or how many lines can we fit into this space.
Nothing simple and reliable. Just shit for hunters and 1337 target shooters.
they were riddled with problems that the mark 5 was supposed to solve.
your reticle will match up, if you ever look at all the different models you can see they adjust the reticle to fit. don't worry about the linear measurements though, you have a measuring tape right in the scope to figure out what you need to adjust.
Ok anon. Assuming you are using an FFP scope and using mrads instead of MOA,
>At 100m range, 1 mrad = 10 cm
>At 200m range, 1 mrad = 20 cm
>At 300m range, 1 mrad = 30 cm
>At... you get the idea. At 2000m range, 1mrad = 200 cm
>B-but what if I do not know the range but know the size of the target
Ok let's say chad thundercock who is 200 cm's tall is your target and you want to know how far he is before he gets close enough to slap your GF's ass and NTR's you
>You look into your scope and see that he fits in 5 mrad's
>We know that he is 200 cm and since he fits in 5 mrad's on your scope then 1 mrad is equal to 40 cm
>Since 1 mrad = 40cm we can safely assume that chad thundercock is 400 meters away from stealing your GF
anon please be realistic, we know that if Chad is 400m away then it's already too late, you won't even have time to accept your fate
SWFA is a good brand that's just a little outdated. My first scope was a 10x with side adjustable parallax. Yes, the same click values will be true at the same range since mils are an angular measurement. The only difference is that the reticle will look different sized on different models. Go with the 10x and learn on it. If you can learn on that scope, and especially learn your fundamentals, you'll be a good long-range shooter. However, be aware that this does not turn you in to a le epic snipar. Any dumb idiot can shoot long range nowadays. Stay humble and work on your data as much as you can.