A-1 (which was the AD-1 when it entered service back then, it didn't become A-1 until the A-1D varient, years later) ended its production with the A-1J, this is the OA-1K. That's a new designation never been used before. Also OA is for Observation and Attack. Since this plane is for ISR and CAS.
The only thing illegal in that pic would be the rocketpods, pretty sure everything else would be 100% legal to own and operate assuming you had commercial equivalents for the sensors instead of military ones which would obviously be nearly impossible to legally purchase
Anon, it's literally a crop duster modified for COIN/CAS.
How does this fit into current/future needs? Counter-insurgency is so last decade
Africa and Israel
At this point why the fuck don't we just start shitting out new A-1s instead of this Micky mouse shit.
That would require all new production tooling and redesigns for modern engines and electronics. Now they can use a current production airframe with some modifications and avoid spending all that money on a clean sheet design.
Super Taco? Super expensive. Air tractor with guns? made in a shed.
Reminder that this is only a "fuck you" to senators who were shilling hard for the Wolverine, while SOCOM wanted the Super Taco.
You look like an idiot
SOCOM had direct control over this program since 2020, if they wanted the super taco they should've bought it.
> FY 2020 NDAA empowered SOCOM to take control of the existing Light Attack/Armed Reconnaissance program from the Air Force, Armed Overwatch is a completely independent effort
Probably enough for the dune coons with AKs they'll be deleting, as long as no one gets a lucky shot off with a Dushka.
Still a shit day if you're flying over the middle of nowhere, only mountains and desert beneath you, and power cuts off.
The Air Tractor is a pretty reliable frame, since it's essentially based off of a cropduster. The US already uses it for a lot of applications like firefighting and anti-drug ops. Props are a lot hardier than jet turbines, after all.
SOCOM had direct control over this program since 2020, if they wanted the super taco they should've bought it.
> FY 2020 NDAA empowered SOCOM to take control of the existing Light Attack/Armed Reconnaissance program from the Air Force, Armed Overwatch is a completely independent effort
Let’s see your countries COIN aircraft anon, not in a hostile way but I do want to see your COIN aircraft so I can jerkoff (my country doesn’t have any COIN aircraft:(, the shame)
At this point, they'd do better with a remotely-controlled ball-turret (or a turret like an Apache,) aimed through VR goggles and controlled with a Playstation-style controller. You'd hardly have to train your video-game-playing gunners to use it.
SOCOM? More like SHITCOM!
FUCK A SOCOM nagger! I DO NOT SALUTE SOCOM naggerS! GO BACK TO FLORIDA YOU SOCOM SHITS! FUCK YOUR HIGH-SPEED UNIFORMS AND GREEN HATS!
>glownaggers finally realize they can't maintain real equipment because of diversity hiring >need something cheap enough and simple enough (by aviation standards) that any recruit Black can run it and maintain it >decide to strap a bunch of shit to a cessna and call it a day
absolute state of muttmerica, we're fucked if anyone tries to attack us
No, the point is it can be loaded onto a cargo plane, flown anywhere in the world, assembled by 1 mechanic and 2 helpers within a day, flown from dirt roads or empty fields if needed, and can be maintained by a single mechanic without any specialty tools.
Oh yeah and it can also be modified for amphibious takeoff/landing.
It's exclusively for SOCOM use, that way they don't have lose a whole team in Africa because they made the mistake of relying on the fucking French for air support.
unironically their low airspeed is a benefit for the particular job it has.
Also see
No, the point is it can be loaded onto a cargo plane, flown anywhere in the world, assembled by 1 mechanic and 2 helpers within a day, flown from dirt roads or empty fields if needed, and can be maintained by a single mechanic without any specialty tools.
Oh yeah and it can also be modified for amphibious takeoff/landing.
I always wonder stuff like what would happen if we spawned 1k of these on top of Ukraine right now, armed, with trained pilot. I don't know why but I love propeller tech and feel that it needs to roll out in ridiculous numbers to work. Vs. being some narco hunter or whatever.
Alright lets delve in! >Outed himself as poor
Factory worker with a toolbag from Amazon, got caught replying to himself about his cool bag ($15 amazon) Tradies bullied him really bad. >Doxxed his own wiki
Got caught editing to Bradley wiki and outed himself as Loafiewa, profile lists as Autistic loner. Change the location to Kent to cover his tracks. >Doxxed his own Twitter
Filled with posts asking Jake Paul to notice him, posting fart fettishes and asking if other people can fart on command also looks at male dicks and wants to move to Canada. >Posts his wifes OF images and requests
Shes a fat prostitute thats forced to sell her self online >Posts fat out of shape Dog
Basically animal cruelty in an image, it was fat and pathetic resembling a wooden beer barrel. >Has been obsessed with the British and the mighty Warrior for over 6 years
Guess Jake Paul isnt the only one he wants to notice him.
Try not to be mean to this anon, hes the most pathetic poster here. Who else could spare 9 hours a day for the past 5 years?
I call bullshit because this is total bullshit. You don't know a fucking thing about the man or have a clue.
>Factory worker with a toolbag from Amazon, got caught replying to himself about his cool bag ($15 amazon) Tradies bullied him really bad.
He's an influencer it's his brother that worked in the factory and he got him the job at Amazon through a friend. Tradies can get fucked. >Got caught editing to Bradley wiki and outed himself as Loafiewa, profile lists as Autistic loner. Change the location to Kent to cover his tracks.
This never happened and everyone knows there's 30 fucking assholes like you setting up accounts to fuck with him in wiki. He said he doesn't have one and that has to be true and you can look that up on wiki. > Shes a fat prostitute thats forced to sell her self online
Yeah she's had three fucking kids and they've adopted two more. You'd look like that if you could achieve your dream of becoming a woman, having kids, and well... you already look like that let's be real. >Basically animal cruelty in an image, it was fat and pathetic resembling a wooden beer barrel.
That doggo is cute as fuck and also a rescue. Fucking really? >Guess Jake Paul isnt the only one he wants to notice him.
He doesn't need Jake Paul this is fucking retarded seething Why you're this jealous is baffling.
Everybody in this thread needs to understand: this plane is based on the Air Tractor AT-802 airframe. This is basically the perfect plane for its role: excellent low speed agility and stability, allowing it to loiter efficiently for reconnaissance and to maneuver accurately to attack a target. Great performance at low altitude and can take off and land in a short distance on a dirt airstrip. And all at a low base cost. It’s a reliable and proven design, people have tried to improve on it for decades and none have supplanted it. The requirements for crop dusting are very similar to a light attack and reconnaissance plane which operates in uncontested airspace. The AT-802 is used around the world for firefighting, which is basically the same mission profile as a precise attack run. It’s an excellent airplane and a great choice to be adapted into this kind of platform.
Because congress was trying to force it down AFSOCs throat, and you can get fucked if you support a congressman being able to decide carte blanche for the military what vehicle they should buy.
Even if the Texan WAS the best choice, I support AFSOC telling congress to get bent and stay in their lane.
>Trusting hues to have good QC >Or deliver on time >Or not just yoink the whole deal the second some extremist politician wants to score "I STOOD UP TO BIG BULLY USA!" points
Made in Brazil was always going to be a non-starter, but not for the reasons you think.
>A-1
so they will reuse designations now? the whole point of numbers is they are infinite.
It's not reused you fuckin retard
A-1 (which was the AD-1 when it entered service back then, it didn't become A-1 until the A-1D varient, years later) ended its production with the A-1J, this is the OA-1K. That's a new designation never been used before. Also OA is for Observation and Attack. Since this plane is for ISR and CAS.
it's still A-1
so blow it out ya ass
>yes I am retarded, but I feel like i'm right so WOOOO
grats anon, you did it
thanks
Technology is regressing.
Good. The SOVL must flow
Return to line drills when?
Probably gonna be more useful than an A-10 will ever be
>This will never be legal to own as a Civilian
why live
The only thing illegal in that pic would be the rocketpods, pretty sure everything else would be 100% legal to own and operate assuming you had commercial equivalents for the sensors instead of military ones which would obviously be nearly impossible to legally purchase
become rich buy company make as many planes as you like
>suicide is for cowards
Anon, it's literally a crop duster modified for COIN/CAS.
Africa and Israel
That would require all new production tooling and redesigns for modern engines and electronics. Now they can use a current production airframe with some modifications and avoid spending all that money on a clean sheet design.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Tractor_AT-802
you can literally just buy one.
Do they sell the armored cockpit and engine to civilians?
you can just add that shit.
Aftermarket is never the same as OEM
then suffer, nagger.
Literally news that's over a year old.
sorry hitler
Where Super Tucano?
Super Taco? Super expensive. Air tractor with guns? made in a shed.
Here we go again with this shit
everyone is mad that the 'wrong' turboprop cheapass CAS plane got selected.
its always bitching about why the Super Tucano wasn't picked, I don't get why there are people here pushing the Super Taco so hard
Brown skin
What do you guys think would Sprey have thought about it?
It has digital systems, avionics, and optics and can fire guided weapons so he would absolutely hate it.
>Slow and low ground attacker
>single-engine
What could possibly go wrong.
the engine compartment is armored at least
also has bulletproof windows and an armored cockpit
Probably enough for the dune coons with AKs they'll be deleting, as long as no one gets a lucky shot off with a Dushka.
Still a shit day if you're flying over the middle of nowhere, only mountains and desert beneath you, and power cuts off.
The Air Tractor is a pretty reliable frame, since it's essentially based off of a cropduster. The US already uses it for a lot of applications like firefighting and anti-drug ops. Props are a lot hardier than jet turbines, after all.
problem thirdie?
It's bigger than it looks
They're gonna start selling these to police departments... aren't they?
Cops already have helicopters with thermals. FBI and DHS have drones to spy on citizens.
MOVE 2: Electric Boogaloo
Reminder that this is only a "fuck you" to senators who were shilling hard for the Wolverine, while SOCOM wanted the Super Taco.
You look like an idiot
SOCOM had direct control over this program since 2020, if they wanted the super taco they should've bought it.
> FY 2020 NDAA empowered SOCOM to take control of the existing Light Attack/Armed Reconnaissance program from the Air Force, Armed Overwatch is a completely independent effort
KEEK is this what America has now? It’s over
Let’s see your countries COIN aircraft anon, not in a hostile way but I do want to see your COIN aircraft so I can jerkoff (my country doesn’t have any COIN aircraft:(, the shame)
War.. .war never changes
Ball gunners need a come back.
Agreed. If by "ball gunners" you are referring to hot sluts who fondle my balls as they slurp on my cock
At this point, they'd do better with a remotely-controlled ball-turret (or a turret like an Apache,) aimed through VR goggles and controlled with a Playstation-style controller. You'd hardly have to train your video-game-playing gunners to use it.
>Playstation-style controller
Sissi femboi detected. Chads use Xbox controller
You know what I mean, ass. I'm talking about a game system-type controller.
At this point why the fuck don't we just start shitting out new A-1s instead of this Micky mouse shit.
imagine getting a dirt nap from a fucking crop duster
Considering these things are spraying stuff on crops that TURN THE FROGS GAY, I don't think it's that difficult to imagine.
>my lactose intolerant ass laying waste to a Walmart alter chugging a half gallon of milk
SOCOM? More like SHITCOM!
FUCK A SOCOM nagger! I DO NOT SALUTE SOCOM naggerS! GO BACK TO FLORIDA YOU SOCOM SHITS! FUCK YOUR HIGH-SPEED UNIFORMS AND GREEN HATS!
>glownaggers finally realize they can't maintain real equipment because of diversity hiring
>need something cheap enough and simple enough (by aviation standards) that any recruit Black can run it and maintain it
>decide to strap a bunch of shit to a cessna and call it a day
absolute state of muttmerica, we're fucked if anyone tries to attack us
>we're fucked
sure thing, vanya
I'm curious why all the ball sensors? Is it one for the pilot, one for the GIB, and one laser designator?
>stick some hardpoints and electronics on a cropduster
>it actually works
Can't really argue with that I guess. Not sure I'd want to be in one though.
>a big crop duster with guns taped on it
Was there really not a better option?
No, the point is it can be loaded onto a cargo plane, flown anywhere in the world, assembled by 1 mechanic and 2 helpers within a day, flown from dirt roads or empty fields if needed, and can be maintained by a single mechanic without any specialty tools.
Oh yeah and it can also be modified for amphibious takeoff/landing.
How does this fit into current/future needs? Counter-insurgency is so last decade
It's exclusively for SOCOM use, that way they don't have lose a whole team in Africa because they made the mistake of relying on the fucking French for air support.
>OA-1K Sky Warden
So what’s so good about these then? Long loiter time, and…
unironically their low airspeed is a benefit for the particular job it has.
Also see
what the hell does it need 3 EOIR balls for. most surveillance/cas/recon aircraft I've seen have 1-2
You guys bought a lot of Tucanos from Brazil, just fucking use them.
No we didn't.
We bought like 12, maybe 20.
We've already bought more OA-1K's than that.
I always wonder stuff like what would happen if we spawned 1k of these on top of Ukraine right now, armed, with trained pilot. I don't know why but I love propeller tech and feel that it needs to roll out in ridiculous numbers to work. Vs. being some narco hunter or whatever.
Alright lets delve in!
>Outed himself as poor
Factory worker with a toolbag from Amazon, got caught replying to himself about his cool bag ($15 amazon) Tradies bullied him really bad.
>Doxxed his own wiki
Got caught editing to Bradley wiki and outed himself as Loafiewa, profile lists as Autistic loner. Change the location to Kent to cover his tracks.
>Doxxed his own Twitter
Filled with posts asking Jake Paul to notice him, posting fart fettishes and asking if other people can fart on command also looks at male dicks and wants to move to Canada.
>Posts his wifes OF images and requests
Shes a fat prostitute thats forced to sell her self online
>Posts fat out of shape Dog
Basically animal cruelty in an image, it was fat and pathetic resembling a wooden beer barrel.
>Has been obsessed with the British and the mighty Warrior for over 6 years
Guess Jake Paul isnt the only one he wants to notice him.
Try not to be mean to this anon, hes the most pathetic poster here. Who else could spare 9 hours a day for the past 5 years?
wtf are you talking about
idk either but I wanted in so I replied
Fuck off fart sniffer
I call bullshit because this is total bullshit. You don't know a fucking thing about the man or have a clue.
>Factory worker with a toolbag from Amazon, got caught replying to himself about his cool bag ($15 amazon) Tradies bullied him really bad.
He's an influencer it's his brother that worked in the factory and he got him the job at Amazon through a friend. Tradies can get fucked.
>Got caught editing to Bradley wiki and outed himself as Loafiewa, profile lists as Autistic loner. Change the location to Kent to cover his tracks.
This never happened and everyone knows there's 30 fucking assholes like you setting up accounts to fuck with him in wiki. He said he doesn't have one and that has to be true and you can look that up on wiki.
> Shes a fat prostitute thats forced to sell her self online
Yeah she's had three fucking kids and they've adopted two more. You'd look like that if you could achieve your dream of becoming a woman, having kids, and well... you already look like that let's be real.
>Basically animal cruelty in an image, it was fat and pathetic resembling a wooden beer barrel.
That doggo is cute as fuck and also a rescue. Fucking really?
>Guess Jake Paul isnt the only one he wants to notice him.
He doesn't need Jake Paul this is fucking retarded seething Why you're this jealous is baffling.
>Sky Warden got the participation award because AFSOC refused to accept Beechcraft
AFSOC refused to allow congress to fuck them out of their choice.
Don't support congressional fuckery with military contractor selection you dumb nagger.
Can't a chopper do the same thing?
No
Okay
Just in time for yesterday's war.
Everybody in this thread needs to understand: this plane is based on the Air Tractor AT-802 airframe. This is basically the perfect plane for its role: excellent low speed agility and stability, allowing it to loiter efficiently for reconnaissance and to maneuver accurately to attack a target. Great performance at low altitude and can take off and land in a short distance on a dirt airstrip. And all at a low base cost. It’s a reliable and proven design, people have tried to improve on it for decades and none have supplanted it. The requirements for crop dusting are very similar to a light attack and reconnaissance plane which operates in uncontested airspace. The AT-802 is used around the world for firefighting, which is basically the same mission profile as a precise attack run. It’s an excellent airplane and a great choice to be adapted into this kind of platform.
Forgot my pic, fuck
>This is basically the perfect plane for its role
But enough about the A-29 and it's proven track record of ISR, COIN and counter cartel operations,
But it lost, anon.
Good plane, bad plane, it's made in Brazil so America doesn't care. The US MIC doesn't get its congressional funding by offering jobs to 3rd worlders.
Then why didn't they pick the fucking Texan instead
Probably because they wanted something that can go slow and/or not have to spend ten minutes between individual strikes to reposition and line up.
Because congress was trying to force it down AFSOCs throat, and you can get fucked if you support a congressman being able to decide carte blanche for the military what vehicle they should buy.
Even if the Texan WAS the best choice, I support AFSOC telling congress to get bent and stay in their lane.
>Trusting hues to have good QC
>Or deliver on time
>Or not just yoink the whole deal the second some extremist politician wants to score "I STOOD UP TO BIG BULLY USA!" points
Made in Brazil was always going to be a non-starter, but not for the reasons you think.
Looks gay.
> SOCOM announced a US$3 billion contract to purchase 75 aircraft by 2029
So, that's a $40 million dollar aircraft. Say something nice about it.