Maritime horror stories.

I will put this here, because I know /k/ loves a gruesome horror story from real life.

https://apnews.com/article/brazil-amazon-migrants-adrift-africa-mauritania-2c98d960650b4e57f145884b3a5abceb

About two weeks ago, a fishing vessel off the coast of Brazil, near the Amazon river delta, finds a seemingly derelict boat drifting at the sea. The boat is full of dead bodies. Rotting bodies. Badly decomposing, like they have been on the seas for a months.

Coast guard and police are called, forensic investigations started.
The boat looks much like the boats used by coastal fishermen in Mali or Mauritania, at the North-western coast of Africa (pic kinda related, that's what you get if you google "mauritanian fishing boat").
It's 12 meters (39ft) long, has no engine or rudder. And not like "there has been an accident and they lost the rudder" but like "This boat has never had a rudder". It's a fricking row-boat.

On board there are 9 rotting bodies ...and 27 cellphones. Suggesting that originally there were a lot more people on board.
Best guess is that it used to be a migrant boat. They left the African coast trying to get to Canary Islands in the Atlantic. And they missed the Canaries. Current pushes them to south, out to the Atlantic.

Around 30 people trying to get to Canaries. That's Spanish soil. They can apply for asylum.
So they get on this dinky little rowboat, packed tight as sardines, and set off. Their navigational equipment? The Captain's old (non-waterproof) cellphone's GPS.
At best they have some kind of sail, at worst just oars. It doesn't take much of a storm to overshoot the Canaries.

They end in the mid-atlantic Doldrums... the calm belt. They have no engine. Food runs out. Water runs out. Scorching sun starts to take it's toll. People start dying.
At first they dump the bodies into the sea. Later, when they get too hungry, they ...don't dump the bodies.
Months later, a boat with only 9 rotting bodies washes on the coast of Brazil.

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Based Poseidon

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Something similar, but this time they've boarded the wrong ship kek

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Frick me, that's a raw deal.
    Like genuine horror story told by sea captains.

    It's a good 5000 km (3100 miles) from the Canaries to Amazon river delta. Even with a good, well rigged age-of-sail sailing ship with good captain and crew that kind of journey would take a solid month or so.
    In a row boat?
    RIP.

    Just imagine how desperate you have to be to take to the atlantic in a row boat? Just how hopeful you have to be? It's only like 120 km (75 miles) from the coast of Africa to the Canaries. There is that little voice in your head saying "...it's not that far. We can make it!"

    No. No you can't.
    That southwards current is going to grab your dinky little boat and push you off to the sea and then it's sayonara, baby.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or you aren't sentient enough to fully grasp the risks involved and thus don't need that much hopium to take the trip in the first place.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. What is more is young men have a tendency to take high risk. Additionally they likely do not asume to make it to the island, they hope to get "saved" by someome after entering international waters. Same as in the mediteranean.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I wonder what the effects of a single video (deep fake or real) of a coast guard ship ripping one of their invasion rafts to shreds with a ma deuce and gunnung down the survivors would do to that risk-reward calculus. Most won't do research (if they even could) but if word gets around that the only handout they'll receive is lead maybe it'll up the price of voyage or scare off some of them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What usually changes that is if Europe is a less safe place than Africa. As soon as a major war starts going across the continent you'll see dozens of boat people leaving.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Probably not much. You have no idea how shitty things are in much of the third world - living conditions that most Americans/Australians/Euros/Leafs would consider unbearable are a major step up from what these people are used to. Even in the event of a war or economic depression they still wouldn't want to go back for the most part.

            t. American who has been to Africa

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >some locals attacked a nearby foreign journalist
              kek

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              So you're saying anything short of Mediterranean Normandy beach will not dissuade them? Anything less the frickers will keep coming because it really is so shit back home that facing gunfire (or in OP's case, a painful slow death by exposure at sea) won't faze them?

              Also, based Greeks indeed, there's hope yet.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Perhaps not something so dramatic or bloody, but unless they know that there is a ZERO chance of gaining asylum/residence, they'll continue to come, and even then they'll still try. Either way we need an M240/M2 emplaced every 200M on the Southern Border.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I ascribe a lot of that to the local culture. Like everyone is Christian, but there's just no concept of helping anyone besides yourself. I have a Ugandan online friend and she says she's been struggling because her dad died and since he only had daughters and apparently the local law only recognizes male heirs, they got nothing and their uncle proceeded to go on a bender with all his brother's money

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >would consider unbearable
              most of them have year long summer/spring. In that kind of climate you can live in a sheet metal shack and be absolutely fine.

              No sympathy, no excuse for them. they are simply moronic, lazy and inept in getting their shit together. And, like always, instead of confronting their own problems they blame it on their boogey men

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              When "Camp Of The Saints" becomes a documentary film.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well, they are currently riding banana boats, yes the things in the attached image, and they are cramming 60-80 people on these things at once. Dozens of them dying horribly doesn't bother them, because dozens of people dying horribly right in front of their eyes is a daily occurrence for them.

            • 4 weeks ago
              sage

              >africans
              >riding banana boats
              >to get into the EU
              frick man my boss asked me why I'm laughing so much
              tell him about blacks getting smuggled into Europe on banana floats
              now everyone in the office is laughing

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            on Polish - Belarusian border vision of drowning in swamp in winter is not threatening enough - so there is discussion in mediasphere about laying minefields along the border (officially due to Russian invasion threat)

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Absolutely based, it's only a matter of time before borders get militarized as a response to "climate refugees"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they probably didn't realize that smugglers have a direct line to EU coast guard / NGO "rescue" ships
          thought the white man just magically sees everything

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. What is more is young men have a tendency to take high risk. Additionally they likely do not asume to make it to the island, they hope to get "saved" by someome after entering international waters. Same as in the mediteranean.

        I guess the craziest ones leave
        And the ones with some self preservation don't get in the boats

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This.
        If conditions in your current place are absolutely terrible, then you don't need much hopium to overcome the dread and risk taking the journey.
        Combine that with stories of others that made the trip and now are 'living it big', and you have a this shit happening

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They probably weren't aware of the distance and the people who sold them the boat didn't give enough of a shit to inform them.
      I'm mostly surprised that the ship survived that long without sinking, Atlantic storms are scary.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Africans can't into hypotheticals.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what do you mean "what if you didn't have breakfast at sea?"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Just imagine how desperate you have to be to take to the atlantic in a row boat? Just how hopeful you have to be?
      lol that's like saying "imagine how sad moths are that they fly into a lit campfire". The would-be rapists probably thought they would have a grand old time on the boat, land on spanish soil and get to enjoy free stuff for the rest of their lives. They had no idea what risks they were taking right up until they started eating each other. The only horror element to this story is the fact these people actually had a shot at making it here

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >The only horror element to this story is the fact these people actually had a shot at making it here.
        This. I’m certainly not racist or anything, but these monkeys were just floating on a raft. They probably didn’t even take as much food and water as they could have, since they cannot think 20 mins into the future. The ones who had recently eaten probably didn’t bring anything because they weren’t hungry. The idea of them in Europe is disgusting.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >This. I’m certainly not racist or anything
          wow thank goodness for that, anon
          fricking nu/k/

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh don't you worry my European friend, because the Irish may have fricked you all over and you may be seeing a lot more coming from the UK.

          You see, the Irish, in all of their progressive wisdom, decided to label the UK as an un-safe country due to the Rwanda Deal we've currently set-up where we can send some asylum seekers over to Rwanda whilst we process their applications because we've ran out of room in our jails and detention camps, despite massively overcrowding them, and quite frankly we're broke as frick and can't afford them, which was going to lead to a lot of them dying homeless on the streets this winter.

          I say was, because what happens now is if Ireland gets their way and returns all of the migrants that have crossed over the Northern Ireland border to evade the possibility of being sent to Rwanda, then that breaks the gentleman's agreement we had with the EU of not sending any migrants that travel from their countries to ours back to them. This of course means that we can take the tens of thousands of people we have on our hands and just give them back.

          Isn't that just lovely?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >This of course means that we can take the tens of thousands of people we have on our hands and just give them back
            Jesus Christ, is the UK actually going to do that? I wouldn't be surprised if it ended in race-riots on the mainland.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              By "just give them back" I mean to France where most of the sailings are coming from, as we are legally bound to not send them back to their countries of origin if the ruling junta will shoot them on the spot. Most of them would honestly do better if they just squatted in Luxembourg and Lichtenstein as the vast majority of migrants speak French as a first or second language and those countries are obscenely rich, so can actually financially support them.

              On a side note, the Vietnamese need to get their shit together, because the numbers of them coming over here to work as slaves to pay off gambling debts is absolutely absurd.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >I wouldn't be surprised if it ended in race-riots on the mainland.
              why would it
              the only people who want these migrants are white middle class student activist types

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the only people who want these migrants are white middle class student activist types
                That's my point. Frenchies and so-on getting even more immigrants while they're already swimming with them is going to exacerbate a lot of their issues with them. Combined with the growing immigrant-fatigue ruining whatever goodwill they had with anyone outside of the relatively small demographic you just described, and i can see things getting very violent very fast. Then again, i'm just an ignorant burger, so i might be reading the situation completely wrong.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      50.000 African immigrants landed in the Canarias in the past year alone.
      They mostly land on Tenerife and La Gomera.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I was on Tenerife in the early 2000s. Shame it's getting invaded tho. What happens to them after they get there?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Most get moved to the mainland to apply for asylum. They often move on to other EU countries once they are on the Spanish mainland though.
          You see more and more of them now on the island every single year. Where 5 years ago blacks were relatively rare on the island you now see them everywhere; even in the small vilages. You used to only see one of two but nowadays they roam in large packs in Santa Cruz and La Laguna.
          La Gomera is now occasionally referred to a the 'second Lampedusa'.
          There are coast guard boats and helicopters patrolling all the time but they are more for rescue than stopping them.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They send them in planes to spain main land. They sleep in good hotels, get new clothes, phones and receive money each week. All paid with my taxes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Honestly, it was kind of dumb of them, as they could have just done the sensible thing by catching the train up to Morocco and crossing the gap there between Morocco and Spain which is only about twenty miles, is covered by the SOLAS (Saving Of Lives At Sea) treaty so people are legally obliged to save you if you get in trouble and if you frick up, you're either back in Morocco or Spain.

      Of course, if you want an easier time, you just gather up a few weeks food, break into the back of an unsecured lorry in a port because none of the buggers secure them properly and the quality of the border controls for most Western and Southern European countries is absolutely laughable.

      The fact that

      https://i.imgur.com/BkmdUR2.jpeg

      I will put this here, because I know /k/ loves a gruesome horror story from real life.

      https://apnews.com/article/brazil-amazon-migrants-adrift-africa-mauritania-2c98d960650b4e57f145884b3a5abceb

      About two weeks ago, a fishing vessel off the coast of Brazil, near the Amazon river delta, finds a seemingly derelict boat drifting at the sea. The boat is full of dead bodies. Rotting bodies. Badly decomposing, like they have been on the seas for a months.

      Coast guard and police are called, forensic investigations started.
      The boat looks much like the boats used by coastal fishermen in Mali or Mauritania, at the North-western coast of Africa (pic kinda related, that's what you get if you google "mauritanian fishing boat").
      It's 12 meters (39ft) long, has no engine or rudder. And not like "there has been an accident and they lost the rudder" but like "This boat has never had a rudder". It's a fricking row-boat.

      On board there are 9 rotting bodies ...and 27 cellphones. Suggesting that originally there were a lot more people on board.
      Best guess is that it used to be a migrant boat. They left the African coast trying to get to Canary Islands in the Atlantic. And they missed the Canaries. Current pushes them to south, out to the Atlantic.

      Around 30 people trying to get to Canaries. That's Spanish soil. They can apply for asylum.
      So they get on this dinky little rowboat, packed tight as sardines, and set off. Their navigational equipment? The Captain's old (non-waterproof) cellphone's GPS.
      At best they have some kind of sail, at worst just oars. It doesn't take much of a storm to overshoot the Canaries.

      They end in the mid-atlantic Doldrums... the calm belt. They have no engine. Food runs out. Water runs out. Scorching sun starts to take it's toll. People start dying.
      At first they dump the bodies into the sea. Later, when they get too hungry, they ...don't dump the bodies.
      Months later, a boat with only 9 rotting bodies washes on the coast of Brazil.

      mentions they found 27 phones and nine bodies hints that these were smugglers rather than refugees, as when migrants toss bodies over board, they don't waste time picking pockets as the crafts are overloaded and they need them out as soon as possible to try and keep the thing afloat. Smugglers tend to have a minimum of three phones on them each, which lines up with 27 phones found in the boat.

      What were they smuggling?

      Well, if the Canaries were their actual intended destination and there were no other bodies found in the boat (which would have indicated slaves being trafficked to work in the resorts, as slavery is a genuinely massive international problem in the hospitality industry) then it was probably guns which they ditched as soon as they became lost, as no rescue ship will save them if they are found to be carrying weapons, as SOLAS does not apply if it puts your vessel or crew in danger.
      If it was drugs, it depends on the type and packaging as to whether they would have survived being out at sea, as the creatures out there do not give a flying frick and will wolf down anything that can fit in their mouths.

      >t. knower

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >slavery hospitality industry
        God the shylock homosexualry of slavery knows no bounds. We'll be interplanetary and there'll be some miserly piece of shit enslaving people to do some space-faring job because god forbid you just pay them.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >There is that little voice in your head
      Not if you're black.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I dont get the picture

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But how would you feel if you did get the picture?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            But I don't

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I love it when a story has a happy ending

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ye Olde "Custom of the sea".

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When I was vacationing in Gran Canaria there were tons of drones, speed boats and police helicopters patrolling up and down the coast all night and day. The objective was to intercept boatloads of africans before they could get to land.

    There were also tons of homeless africans milling about the tourist spots trying to sell shit, or pick your pocket.

    Luckily the 5 start hotel I was at had tall fences and guarded gates to keep the Mad Max wastelanders away.

    I thought that things must be really fricking bad in africa if you're willing to take that risk. Despite looking like its close to the coast on a map, the Canaries are tiny specs of land waaaaaay out in the atlantic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I thought that things must be really fricking bad in africa if you're willing to take that risk.
      Africa has roughly the same number of countries as the U.S. has states. Imagine if we had open wars in over a dozen states and violent insurgencies in another dozen, although the difference between "insurgency" and crime & violence being an everyday part of your life gets blurry. There are coups and counter-coups going on all the time.

      I went to community college and had a professor from Cote D'Ivoire who fled the country because there was a civil war or coup or something and one of the groups of armed lunatics overran the main university and was liquidating all the intellectuals. This guy had a Ph.D., was very intelligent, and wound up teaching braindead community college students like me in the U.S. and I kind of felt sorry for the guy. He should be teaching at a good school you know. But what can you do? His reaction when a student referred to black people in Africa as "African-Americans" is something I'll never forget. A little part inside of him died.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >His reaction when a student referred to black people in Africa as "African-Americans" is something I'll never forget
        It's always hilarious when Americans do that, not even about blacks in Africa, but black expats in general.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh man, call a Haitian african american and watch the fun

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >His reaction when a student referred to black people in Africa as "African-Americans" is something I'll never forget
        It's always hilarious when Americans do that, not even about blacks in Africa, but black expats in general.

        Oh man, call a Haitian african american and watch the fun

        Some guy on a forum years ago posted about a friend of his who came to Texas from Nigeria or wherever. A couple black coworkers were talking about how hard being African-American was, and this guy goes "I'm the only African-American here. You're just a couple of Dallas Black folk."

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Africans that actually emigrate legally from africa are incredibly based

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They are. ive enjoyed working with them, and as a bonus they sometimes police the american Black folk too

      • 4 weeks ago
        >>455392974

        >crime & violence being an everyday part of your life gets blurry. There are coups and counter-coups going on all the time.

        It almost seems as conquering the continent and treating it like a strictly run boarding school would be an act of kindness.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >His reaction when a student referred to black people in Africa as "African-Americans" is something I'll never forget.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am canarian and unfortunately not enough of them drift away, Tenerife is filled to the absolute brim with Southsaharan Africans, you can't even go hiking without finding colonies of these people.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like Gran Canaria is in need of a few serial killers

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Were any oars found with the boat? I find it really hard to believe that even illiterate migrants would get on a boat with no means of propulsion. Even the most desperate migrant rafts to Europe had a tiny dinky motor on the back.

    What if it wasn't a migrant boat? What if they were set adrift in a boat with no propulsion or navigation as a punishment or death sentence?? Or it was a migrant boat, but pirates stole their engine and equipment and left them to die? North Korean boats filled with skeletons have been showing up on the shores of Japan and SK, because competing Chinese fishing boats would do similar things to them, or just murder the crew outright.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      oars are going to work great against ocean currents. 🙂
      >Or it was a migrant boat, but pirates stole their engine and equipment and left them to die?
      often it's one boat pulling another. one with an engine & one without. maybe a storm separated them? or the smugglers cut them loose?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Even classical explorers used sails
      A 70s sailboat a hobbyist could buy is probably better off than a fishing rowboat on the Atlantic

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If I had been there, I would have asked them how they would have felt if they made to Spanish soil.

    • 4 weeks ago
      >>455392974

      >I would have asked them how they would have felt if they made to Spanish soil.

      ...but they didn't make it to Spanish soil?

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    When the Lusitania was torpedoed in 1915, the extent of the damage meant it lost steam pressure very quickly, and as a result the electric dynamos wound down. A minute or two after impact all electrical power was lost. Not only was the ship interior plunged into darkness, but it also meant the first class elevators failed, which had people trapped inside.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe they shouldn't have used the boat to sendsneak ammunition across the Atlantic then if they didn't want to get torpedoed

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There was no way the Germans knew that before hand, there’s a reason Germany has been the bad guy in every war you know.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >german embassy puts warnings in ever news paper that unrestricted u-boat warfare was about to resume and not to make the crossing
          >get into boat full of munitions
          >get hit
          >ships it' size can take a torpedo and survive or at least take an hour plus to sink
          >but the sip it carrying a frick ton of munitions

          the germans did some shitty things in WWI, the the tragedy that was the Lusitania was as much on the rest of the waring parties.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >bu-b-b-but we w-warned you!!
            Not an excuse.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Be warned
              >Still go through with it
              Inside job

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >iz nevu our faulltt!!
                die krautBlack person

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >there’s a reason Germany has been the bad guy in every war you know.
          because they've lost both world wars?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            no no no no you can't say that that's hate speech anon

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, bad guns lose because they're bad at war. Good guys win because they're good at war. Don't start shit you can't finish.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Isn't it great how the good guys win every war?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Germs unironically paid for newspaper ads saying "Hey we're going to be torpedoing every British-flagged ship, please be careful herr buger"

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They took out a full-page ad in the NYT warning people that Lusitania was carrying ammunition and that it was a valid military target.

            Of course, they were also doing all kinds of other things against the US at the time, which generally get ignored in favor of the Lusitania and the Telegram. Lots of active sabotage stuff that makes no sense at all for a nation supposedly trying to keep the US out of the war.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I remember learning wilhelm II had some demented GSG tier plan of invading the continental US to force us to give up Carribean territory. Real "Vgh I mvst paint the map" stuff. But his staff college were able to convince him the idea was fricking moronic by requiring far more troops and material than Germany could possess.

              Imagine that, your generals dissuading you from a moronic plan.
              hee hee
              hoo hoo
              haa haa

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I have been wondering about him, some people blame his attitude on his arm deformity, but for what I have been checking in Wikipedia there have been a fair share of monarchs with disabilities who behaved in a decent way, maybe he was just a dick.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The 1 (one) biography I read on Kaiser Willie back in middle school blamed it, in part, not on the arm but on damage to his skull and thus his brain during his birth. The arm was also mangled as a part of the operation, but it was the brain damage that made him temperamental.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Chronic pain and TBI are both a real b***h. Imagine having constant brain fog and now someone is pinching you for all your waking existence. No wonder so many vets drink themselves to death, I already kicked the opiates but I need to be like three beers deep to feel what I used to consider normal. And of course, nobody cares unless you're spewing arterial blood, or if you bring it up there's "Oh this again? I thought that was months ago."
                Yes, months, every. fricking. day. It didn't just decide to stop.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              In the Kraut's defense (mostly as devil's advocate, frick Germany), the US was doing a lot to supply the Entente, and even more to prop them up financially. So much so, in fact, that some historians have since implied that we essentially entered the war to protect our investments. Wilson didn't abuse neutrality quite as blatantly as FDR would go on to, but we still were.

              This is the part where I point out it would have been hypocritical but entirely expected of Germany to point this out, given what they were doing with Sweden simultaneously. All was is based on deception, and that includes being incensed about the other guy doing exactly what you're doing and yet still insisting they're different.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >we essentially entered the war to protect our investments.

                Every day my hatred of Wilson grows deeper

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Entering the war wasn't really the problem, the germans were asking for it. Wilson's major frickup was him getting spanish flu, suffering some kind of brain damage from inflammation, and full moron doubling down on the versailles punishments that sparked german revanchism later.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              If you look at German behaviour during World War One, you get the impression that they nearly always look at things from a strictly military perspective, consequently ignoring other factors like political ones which counterproductively make the military challenge later, at most assuming their military decisions will render the political costs irrelevant.

              - Britain protects Belgian neutrality? But we have to march through there to beat France quicker
              - The Entente making hay about our harsh treatment of Belgian civilians and the destruction of ancient universities? But we have to make sure the populace don't sabotage our operations.
              - America doesn't like our unrestricted submarine warfare? But we have to scare everyone away from sending stuff to Britain
              - Spies conducting sabotage in Neutral America risks provoking them? But we need to divert their attention and resources from supplying the entente.
              - Starting up unrestricted submarine warfare again will anger America again? Doesn't matter, it will totally work to cut off Britain this time.
              - Trying to encourage Mexico to attack the continental United States will be seen as an act of aggression? But we need to distract America
              - Smuggling a socialist demagogue to Russia risks spreading his ideas back to us and sparking a revolution? But we need him to take Russia out of the war (this one was probably the most successful)
              - The harsh terms of Brest-Litovsk just persuade the west that no good faith peace deal can be made with us and encourage them to keep fighting even when our upcoming offensive looks like it's working? But we need Ukrainian wheat

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Germans are autistic. Pro or anti-Germ (I'm a mild Wehraboo) you have to admit they're autistic.

          • 4 weeks ago
            >>455392974

            >Germs unironically paid for newspaper ads saying "Hey we're going to be torpedoing every British-flagged ship, please be careful herr buger"

            What would the consequences be if I ran an ad like that today? but I say it's from Canada.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >"Don't come to school tomorrow t.Wilhelm II"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Shut the frick up, kraut.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >german embassy puts warnings in ever news paper that unrestricted u-boat warfare was about to resume and not to make the crossing
        >get into boat full of munitions
        >get hit
        >ships it' size can take a torpedo and survive or at least take an hour plus to sink
        >but the sip it carrying a frick ton of munitions

        the germans did some shitty things in WWI, the the tragedy that was the Lusitania was as much on the rest of the waring parties.

        >Be warned
        >Still go through with it
        Inside job

        We should have dropped a nuke on Berlin for good measure to keep you uppity Kraut homosexuals more in line.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally nothing even tangentially to do with /k/

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cool story, thanks, appreciate it.
    So how long until your ban ends?

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's a more /k/ maritime horror story since it involves people shooting guns at eachother
    >Be 'The Batavia', new flagship of the Dutch East India Company
    >Maiden voyage from the Netherlands to the city of Batavia, carrying gold, soldiers and settlers to help set up the company
    >Cornelisz, a company official, was planning to take the ship and the gold for himself to establish his own little kingdom
    >The plan: Have one of the female settles raped and have the captain come down on the perps so hard it starts a mutiny
    >Settler is raped, fails to identify attackers, no punishment from the captain, there goes that plan
    >Next plan: Divert the ship slightly off course away from the rest of the fleet to buy more time so we can come up with an actual plan B
    >Ship crashes onto islands off the western coast of Australia thanks to the diverted route
    >Most make it off alive. Captain takes a small crew with which he'll try to row the lifeboat to Batavia for help
    >Puts Cornelisz, the mutiny-plotting company official, in charge of the survivors on the island
    >Cornelisz sends the soldiers off to another island to 'find a fresh source of water and to signal back once they've found it' (AKA: Frick off to that barren rock over there and die)
    >With the soldiers gone, Cornelisz and his mutineers go about setting up that kingdom they'd planned. Men are murdered, children enslaved and women put into harems.
    >Meanwhile, over at the island, the soldiers found fresh water. Wondering why they're getting no response for all the smoke signals they're sending out
    >Survivors from the other island start trickling in, telling them that their island has gone full lord of the flies
    >War between the islands break out. Cornelisz wants that fresh water aswel as to deal with the band of armed witnesses sitting smugly on top of it.
    >Cornelisz leads a party by himself to negotiate the soldiers' surrender, gets captured instead

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CONT:
      >War continues between the soldiers and the rest of Cornelisz' mutineers for a couple weeks
      >As the mutineers prepare another attack, sails appear in the distance
      >It's the fricking captain come back with a rescue party
      >Mutineers and soldiers race for the ship
      >Soldiers get there first, spill the beans on the other group's bullshit.
      >All mutineers trialed on the spot. Most are sentenced to hanging, two are marooned on the Australian mainland. Becoming Australia's very first permanent European settlers.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        just read up on this, what a shitshow. Crazy to think that some random private was the one who figured everything out and saved the day because everyone else was so moronic. Also interesting that his little makeshift fort still exists.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The first European settlers and structures on Australia appeared entirely cause the Dutch can't chill and be normal for one fricking second
          Tat one soldier was Wiebbe Hayes. By the time he actually reached Indonesia his wages had practically quadrupled from all the promotions he was getting.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It's interesting how easy it is to find firsthand accounts of the incident because the whole crew of swampisraelite merchants were so fricking autistic that everyone kept detailed journals and meeting notes of how they were gonna rape some woman or have a discussion about what the best way to rip out an 8 year old boy's throat is.
            The fricking Dutch, man...

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              ik zie dat onze superioriteit enige controverse veroorzaakt
              Ik zou zeggen leer er mee omgaan, raas en dialeer

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Proper record-keeping is essential to good scientific endeavor (also they could publish and sell them later).

              ik zie dat onze superioriteit enige controverse veroorzaakt
              Ik zou zeggen leer er mee omgaan, raas en dialeer

              picrel

              Oh man, call a Haitian african american and watch the fun

              There was an American expat on national tv here complaining about how "Zwarte Piet was offensive towards our local african american community" who got widely mocked afterwards.

              [...]
              >Australia's first permanent European settlers are still there because they're criminals
              My fricking sides. Kino story though, the Dutch deserve more time in the limelight, they've clearly had their fair share of cool shit.

              I recommend reading The Journal of Bontekoe (Het Journaal van Bontekoe) (though I don't know if it was ever published in english), which is the captains log of a VOC ship that gets shipwrecked.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            One of the 2 sailors marooned was only a cabin boy. The dutch for some reason loved sentencing boy sailors to death by marooning.

            Maybe its their genetic disposition to the most cruel naval punishments imaginable like keelhauling.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >that image
              mijn fricking zijkanten

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What was it about Pacific exploration that inspired so much "hmm I really could use my own rape kingdom"? Like New World exploration via the Atlantic was all kinds of fricked up but I can't recall any explicit rape kingdom attempts while the Pacific had several.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A combination of cabin fever, a big chance nobody will find out what you're doing and, unironically, a severe lack of pussy.
          The royal navy's regulations on sodomy explicitly became more flexible after 90 days at sea.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Something about the Pacific that just does. E.g the Pitcairn Islands

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CONT:
      >War continues between the soldiers and the rest of Cornelisz' mutineers for a couple weeks
      >As the mutineers prepare another attack, sails appear in the distance
      >It's the fricking captain come back with a rescue party
      >Mutineers and soldiers race for the ship
      >Soldiers get there first, spill the beans on the other group's bullshit.
      >All mutineers trialed on the spot. Most are sentenced to hanging, two are marooned on the Australian mainland. Becoming Australia's very first permanent European settlers.

      Damn that would make a good movie

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CONT:
      >War continues between the soldiers and the rest of Cornelisz' mutineers for a couple weeks
      >As the mutineers prepare another attack, sails appear in the distance
      >It's the fricking captain come back with a rescue party
      >Mutineers and soldiers race for the ship
      >Soldiers get there first, spill the beans on the other group's bullshit.
      >All mutineers trialed on the spot. Most are sentenced to hanging, two are marooned on the Australian mainland. Becoming Australia's very first permanent European settlers.

      >Australia's first permanent European settlers are still there because they're criminals
      My fricking sides. Kino story though, the Dutch deserve more time in the limelight, they've clearly had their fair share of cool shit.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        anon, there's a reason you don't hear much about ~~*dutch*~~ colonial exploits

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The dutch will go full oogabooga the first chance they get away from civilisation.

          One particular Dutchman who also ended up washed up on Australia and worth a mention was Admiral Conrad Helfrich, who doesn't get much of a mention in history which is somewhat overshadowed by the battle of Britain, Eastern Front, Marines dying all over the pacific and other such movie favourites. But he did some pretty wild shit in the early days of WW2.
          Faced with the whole IJN headed south he doesn't have very much and Java is a lot of area to cover
          >Five cruisers, eight DD's, 20 subs and lots of torpedo boats
          He's also got some friends in Australia and all the maintenance, fuel and re-arming happens mostly there along with a few Australian surface vessels, but what he does have more than the Japanese do, is a very intimate knowledge of the sea lanes around what is now Indonesia and SE-Asia in general. Japan declares war and says they're going to take all his colonial lands and all the little brown frick machines that live there. So, following the great tradition of Dutch chimpouts and boats
          >FRICK THE YELLOW Black folk!
          >Come on in fricko, you want a piece of the action? Sure, everyone wants a piece of the action!

          In the first 54 days of WW2 and the conflict in Java, he sinks 54 Japanese ships in 54 days with his submarines and planes before the massive swarm descends over SE Asia and the remainder of the East-Indies Dutch fleet decides to pull back to Australia along with their merchant navy. He will go on fight through WW2 with the Australian, Brits and Americans in his navy and I think he passed away in 1967
          Still, 54 in 54 days, some fricking work!

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            If we're talking based ww2 Dutch commanders you gotta mention Piet de Jong
            >Enters politics post-ww2
            >queen assigns him as PM after consecutive coalition breakdowns
            >Legalized production and consumption of pornography in the 60's, citing it as 'The only effective cure against seasickness'
            >Gets told the Belgians are still banning porn
            >Retorts that the Belgians are not a seafaring nation and never will be

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Probably one of those rare 'realists' in politics that gets thrown a fricking stupid question by some mouth breather in the press gallery and simply explains that trying to outlaw the only thing that stops everything from seasickness, mutiny and buggery is probably the most pointless effort to even bother with.
              I think he was very nice though
              Calling Belgium a 'nation', I wouldn't.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/v6aNd19.png

            If we're talking based ww2 Dutch commanders you gotta mention Piet de Jong
            >Enters politics post-ww2
            >queen assigns him as PM after consecutive coalition breakdowns
            >Legalized production and consumption of pornography in the 60's, citing it as 'The only effective cure against seasickness'
            >Gets told the Belgians are still banning porn
            >Retorts that the Belgians are not a seafaring nation and never will be

            aaaaaand then there's Doorman, who went full WE GAAN.
            In dutch naval history, you can be either a ridiculously skilled psychopath, or just a psychopath. No inbetweens.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That earned him the nickname Conrad "Ship a day" Helfrich, and he was the one who accepted the Japanese surrender aboard the Missouri.

            https://i.imgur.com/ATucONp.jpeg

            [...]
            aaaaaand then there's Doorman, who went full WE GAAN.
            In dutch naval history, you can be either a ridiculously skilled psychopath, or just a psychopath. No inbetweens.

            The alleged quote from when he attacked was "Ik van aan, volg mij" (I am attacking, follow me), though the actual quote was more likely "All ships, follow me".
            GAAN is a time honored Dutch tradition.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ik val aan, volg me
              you just posted I'm from, follow me
              the proper translation is I'm attacking, follow me

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The actual quote in Dutch is "volg mij", you can generally use both more or less interchangeably, but "me" is a more informal form.
                You'd say 'Volg me" to an individual, but "Volg mij" is used as more of a declaration.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                wel me en mij kan je gewoon door elkaar gebruiken nu
                destijds was me omgang taal uit de lagere klasse en zou een officier natuurlijk mij gebruiken

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wat niet weet, wat niet deert 😉

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Hey wanna be the fall guy for our mutiny
      >We need you to rape that woman and get caught
      >Yes, you will be punished
      >It needs to be a harsh punishment or there will be no mutiny
      >Hopefully we will start the mutiny before you get excused or whipped a 100 times
      >No promises though
      I wonder how he found volunteers for this

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        *executed

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Probably did promise

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The actual captain of the ship was in on the mutiny, and would have stepped in after they overthrew the VOC loyalists with pardons.
        The captain that was referenced in the original greentext was actually the commodore of the trade fleet, and was fricking pissed at the ship captain for a long list of reasons including:
        >constantly being drunk
        >getting drunk while docked in South Africa and instigating a fight with the other captains in the fleet in front of their crews
        >getting drunk and starting a rumor that the commodore was fricking the hot girl who got raped
        >fricking the servant of the hot girl who got raped and declaring that the servant didn't have to work for her anymore.
        >taking the servant with him to officer only dinners and meetings and demanding that she be made privy to all decisions and councils
        So while the commodore (I forget all of their names as they're all quite silly sounding and I refuse to believe Dutch is a real language) wanted nothing more than to throw the captain overboard, he decided to wait and do nothing until they got to Java, which was governed at the time by an absolute fricking nazi who would have gladly ripped his balls off over everything.
        In the end, both the captain and his servant mistress died in prison after they made it to Java in the rowboat. The guy who raped the hot girl survived the whole incident but on his arrival to Java had all the bones in his body broken and was stretched out and contorted over a wheel to die of internal bleeding. Ultimately the VOC's board of directors exonerated the ship's captain and placed the blame of the whole incident on the hot girl who got raped, stating that she was too hot to be put on a ship and had driven the crew mad with lust.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >she was too hot to be put on a ship and had driven the crew mad with lust
          Man, the old law used to be the cool kind of crazy. Now it's just lame crazy.

          Also, when the hell did this whole incident happen? I was under the impression breaking on the wheel had largely fallen out of fashion by the time of the Age of Discovery.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1628. The Dutch were pro's at keeping ye olde punishments around.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That actually doesn't surprise me too much. It's arbitrary and probably wrong, but I picture the worst of the punishments, like the wheel, largely falling out of favor in the 18th century. Mid-17th is still plenty of time to not be past those methods.

              [...]
              According to Dutch law and VOC charter at the time, a person can only be found guilty of a crime if they confessed to it.
              Torture could be used to get a confession, but if so the accused had to be offered time to recover before affirming they were guilty under no pressure.
              After the mutineers of the Batavia got captured, a few of them refused to admit culpability even though almost all of the crew that could write kept detailed notes and diaries of the killings. This evidence could not be used to determine guilt, however it could be used to determine punishment so everyone who didn't confess immediately got waterboarded. After they stated their guilt and were given time to dry out, most of them recanted their confession, causing the crew to have to repeat the process over and over again for almost a month until they finally broke the last guy.
              The Dutch were seriously honor bound by the laws of autism back in those days.

              The law is always autistic like that, it's just the particulars that change.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            1628. The Dutch were pro's at keeping ye olde punishments around.

            According to Dutch law and VOC charter at the time, a person can only be found guilty of a crime if they confessed to it.
            Torture could be used to get a confession, but if so the accused had to be offered time to recover before affirming they were guilty under no pressure.
            After the mutineers of the Batavia got captured, a few of them refused to admit culpability even though almost all of the crew that could write kept detailed notes and diaries of the killings. This evidence could not be used to determine guilt, however it could be used to determine punishment so everyone who didn't confess immediately got waterboarded. After they stated their guilt and were given time to dry out, most of them recanted their confession, causing the crew to have to repeat the process over and over again for almost a month until they finally broke the last guy.
            The Dutch were seriously honor bound by the laws of autism back in those days.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The guy who raped the hot girl survived the whole incident but on his arrival to Java had all the bones in his body broken and was stretched out and contorted over a wheel to die of internal bleeding.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why is /k/ a better history board than PrepHole

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’d guess part of it is that /k/ history is usually presented as a narrative which is both more engaging and often does a better job of getting into the personal side of things, whereas PrepHole discourse is much more theoretical and wide-scope. It doesn’t help that they’re a bit pretentious over there.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        dunno, even though i primary browse /k/ i also prefer to read through a couple of threads on PrepHole every night before sleep. yeah the religion shit is annoying but it's still one of the best boards for comfy discussions on a rather wide array of topics.
        sort of like a qualitatively higher /misc/ and /x/ depending on the thread

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Their navigational equipment? The Captain's old (non-waterproof) cellphone's GPS.

    Fricking what? I went on an overnight fishing trip out of San Pedro last year and my cell phone completely stopped working within an hour of leaving port when the mainland was still in sight, let alone 60 miles off the coast of California.

    I only got my signal back one time the entire two day trip when the crew switched their Starlink connection on to talk to the Coast Guard.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      .... GPS doesn't need a network connection?
      It's slower in getting a fix, yes (AGPS). But it will still work just fine

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Am i supposed to care?

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >After the attack on Pearl Harbor, there were sailors trapped on the USS West Virginia and the USS Oklahoma . The sailors screamed, and banged for help all night and day until death . One group of men survived 16 days , before dying. The Marines on guard duty covered their ears from the cries.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why didn't anyone get them the frick out?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s pretty hard to get people out of an upside down ship

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's an armored ship that is mangled on top of it.
        divers couldn't get them out, and torching your way through the hull was not feasible.
        I suppose they could've tried thermite, but that was dangerous not only to the sailors but also risked blowing up the damn shit if the wrong thing was hit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >and torching your way through the hull was not feasible.
          They did that on the Tirpitz though.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It’s pretty hard to get people out of an upside down ship

        it's an armored ship that is mangled on top of it.
        divers couldn't get them out, and torching your way through the hull was not feasible.
        I suppose they could've tried thermite, but that was dangerous not only to the sailors but also risked blowing up the damn shit if the wrong thing was hit.

        Also, this was before social media and viral content, not much incentive or voter push to risk manpower and resources on a dangerous and potentially pointless rescue mission

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was impossible, the ship was upside down, the outer hull plating is an inch thick and once you get past that there's a void space (torpedo protection) and then more hull plating, about 2-4 inches thick depending on where in the ship you're trying to get to. Cutting holes in it with a torch will use up all the oxygen inside suffocating the men you're trying to rescue and will take days anyways. They did manage to rescue a few guys I think but anyone in the well-armored machinery spaces was doomed.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Cutting holes in it with a torch will use up all the oxygen inside suffocating the men you're trying to rescue and will take days anyways

          The torch is on the side that's exposed to open air though...

          >and will take days anyways

          Why not use explosives then? The Oklahoma was a total constructive loss anyway. Tap on the hull in morse code telling them to get away from the hull and blow it open with demolition charges or at least weaken it enough that the plating can be destroyed by more traditional means.

          If men trapped in the hull were taking two weeks to die, surely they could have come up with something in that time. I mean, Chile was able to rescue 30 miners trapped nearly a mile underground back in 2010. Surely cutting through a few inches of steel would have been less of a challenge.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I think another issue was that in some cases these dudes were trapped in an air pocket. The only thing keeping the compartment from flooding was the pocket of trapped air they found themselves in. So, you cut open a hole through the hull, air goes out, compartment fills with water. Since they are cutting through an armored hull, it would take quite a while to make a man sized hole. By the time that could be done, everyone inside will have drowned. There is literally a scene depicting this in the pearl harbor movie.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >The torch is on the side that's exposed to open air though...

            Ever use one? I do often. To cut the torch initially melts a small area with the preheat flame then then when you hit the cutting lever the oxygen burns through the workpiece splashing molten steel out the other side while the hot adjacent area melts paint etc generating fumes. The salvagers would have been highly competent with cutting torches but that's no help cutting heavy armor plate with humans on the other side.

            I think another issue was that in some cases these dudes were trapped in an air pocket. The only thing keeping the compartment from flooding was the pocket of trapped air they found themselves in. So, you cut open a hole through the hull, air goes out, compartment fills with water. Since they are cutting through an armored hull, it would take quite a while to make a man sized hole. By the time that could be done, everyone inside will have drowned. There is literally a scene depicting this in the pearl harbor movie.

            ^This too. Remember the Navy had plans of the vessel.

            Handheld torches can cut the same thickness (I've an Oxweld scarfing torch with cutting tips supposedly good to 29" but I never got a suitable scrapping job to justify buying that much oxygen via dewar or pallet of cylinders) as vidrel. Note the nice slag heap beneath that little workpiece:

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        they tried

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They tried very hard to get them out, and did succeed in saving some.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hell, West Virginia's damage control efforts had to doom some men to ensure she settled evenly. The crew knew she was going down and flooded compartments rapidly to prevent going over like Oklahoma.
      Between stuff like that, burning oil atop the water, and getting strafed, Pearl sounds like all kinds of hell.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Read a book (Descent into Darkness) about the salvage operations on board some of the other battleships in Pearl; On the Nevada there were 2 or 3 guys who were alive in a large storage room until around Christmas. They had plenty of food and water, but nothing else, and succumbed to lack of oxygen. Worst thing about it was their bodies were discovered a year later by a diver who helped with some of the initial salvage operations that terrible month. He had wanted to continue operations on the Nevada as he was sure there were more survivors on board but was overruled by command to work on some of the other battleships.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He asked for horror, not comedy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Two sides of a many sided dice.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Pretty scary for those fishermen going about their work to suddenly come under a barrage falling all around them. With all those frantic splashes, I would think there was a sea monster around!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's true, at least moskals where to undertrained and/or drunk to hit shit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They did hit something though.

            >In the general chaos, Russian ships began to shoot at each other. The cruisers Aurora and Dmitrii Donskoi were taken for Japanese warships and bombarded by seven battleships sailing in formation, damaging both ships and killing a chaplain and at least one sailor and severely wounding another. During the pandemonium, several Russian ships signalled torpedoes had hit them, and on board the battleship Borodino, rumours spread that the ship was being boarded by the Japanese, with some crews donning life vests and lying prone on the deck and others drawing cutlasses. More serious losses to both sides were avoided only because of the extremely low quality of Russian gunnery, with the battleship Oryol reportedly firing more than 500 shells without hitting anything.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >with the battleship Oryol reportedly firing more than 500 shells without hitting anything
              lmao, russia never changes

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Negotiations between Turkey and Britain seemed to reach an impasse. On 23 February 1942, a small party from the Turkish police tried to board the ship, but the refugees would not let it aboard.[16] A larger force of about 80 police officers came then surrounded Struma with motor boats, and after about half an hour of resistance, it boarded the ship.[16] The police detached the ship's anchor and attached her to a tug, which towed her through the Bosphorus and out into the Black Sea.[16][19] As she was towed along the Bosphorus, many passengers hung signs over the sides that read "SAVE US" in English and Hebrew that were visible to those who lived on the banks of the strait.[20][page needed] Despite weeks of work by Turkish engineers, the engine would not start. The Turks denied its entry and the British forbade it from proceeding to Palestine, the unseaworthy vessel was forced to leave harbour.[21] The Turkish authorities abandoned the ship in the Black Sea, about 10 miles north of the Bosphorus, where she drifted helplessly.[16][20][page needed]
    >On the morning of 24 February there was a huge explosion, and the ship sank. Many years later it was revealed that the ship had been torpedoed by the Shchuka-class Shch-213, which had also sunk the Turkish vessel Çankaya the evening before.[22][23]
    >Struma sank quickly, and many people were trapped below decks and drowned.[24] Many others aboard survived the sinking and clung to pieces of wreckage, but for hours, no rescue came, and all but one of them died from drowning or hypothermia.[16][24] Of the estimated 791 people killed, more than 100 were children.[25] Struma's First Officer Lazar Dikof and the 19-year-old refugee David Stoliar clung to a cabin door, which was floating in the sea.[26][24] The First Officer died overnight, but Turks in a rowing boat rescued Stoliar the next day.[24] He was the only survivor.

    tl;dr frick Germany, frick Turkey, but most of all, hang Russians from lampposts, ALL of them

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao what was that Soviet sub up to? Unrestricted submarine warfare in the Black Sea?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Even worse, the Shch-213 was under secret orders to attack ALL shipping in the Black Sea, regardless of whether said ships carried passengers or whether they belonged to belligerent or neutral nations. Typical Russian behavior.

        Luckily, the Shch-213 didn't live very long afterward. In October, she struck a mine and was lost with all hands. Good riddance to Bolshevik vermin.

        btw this is the last known photo taken of the Struma while it was docked in Istanbul. The Soviets took one look at this piece of junk and decided it was a legitimate target.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ah, so clandestine unrestricted submarine warfare.
          Why exactly was this the call? In '42, the Nazis would be far enough along to be using Black Sea ports for resupply, is that it?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Unrestricted submarine warfare (at least as the Germans practiced it) didn't permit unprovoked attacks on neutral shipping.

            Pic related, the ocean liner SS America circa 1940. The giant flags and "United States Lines" weren't originally part of the ship's livery, but added on after WWII began specifically to keep German U-boats from attacking her in error.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >but most of all, hang Russians from lampposts, ALL of them
      I'd let ziggers rape every baby on Earth if that's what it took to keep Tchaikovsky in my life

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Sweet Jesus, Mother Mary, and Joseph. What Third World shithole are you shilling for Putin from?

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just off the top of my head

    >The Anson expedition which was totally crazy including shit like half the fleet sinking, most of the crew dying, some of the marines being veterans of the English Civil War50 years before, their ship braking anchor leaving them stranded on a tiny atoll in the middle of the pacific etc.

    >there was an african sailor found alive inside a trawler that was lying at the bottom in shallowish water

    >the crazy open boat journeys in the Bounty and Endurance voyages. They were both really grim for all involved (like people spending so long rowing in cramped conditions they had to be "unfolded like a penknife") but noone died except that guy in the Bounty lifeboat who got hacked to death by headhunters.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>The Anson expedition which was totally crazy including shit like half the fleet sinking, most of the crew dying, some of the marines being veterans of the English Civil War50 years before, their ship braking anchor leaving them stranded on a tiny atoll in the middle of the pacific etc.
      Currently reading this, highly recommended

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hi max

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shackleton's expedition was unbelievably impressive. All that hardship and incredible feats without a single human life lost (RIP the cat and dogs). Taking that tiny lifeboat boat across open frigid 800-mile waters with ONLY 4 SEXTANT READINGS.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      was an african sailor found alive inside a trawler that was lying at the bottom in shallowish water
      You talking about the Nigeria sailor who got found by corpse retrieval divers alive in the pitch black in an air pocket?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The story is incredible. Spend three days in the pitch dark 90 feet down. The recovery diver comes across him like something out of a horror movie. Guy ended up becoming a technical diver.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The year after the Jascon-4 sank, Okene was driving to work with a friend when his car went off a bridge and into the water in the city of Port Harcourt.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Happy reading!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I love the book and the movie.

      https://i.imgur.com/BkmdUR2.jpeg

      I will put this here, because I know /k/ loves a gruesome horror story from real life.

      https://apnews.com/article/brazil-amazon-migrants-adrift-africa-mauritania-2c98d960650b4e57f145884b3a5abceb

      About two weeks ago, a fishing vessel off the coast of Brazil, near the Amazon river delta, finds a seemingly derelict boat drifting at the sea. The boat is full of dead bodies. Rotting bodies. Badly decomposing, like they have been on the seas for a months.

      Coast guard and police are called, forensic investigations started.
      The boat looks much like the boats used by coastal fishermen in Mali or Mauritania, at the North-western coast of Africa (pic kinda related, that's what you get if you google "mauritanian fishing boat").
      It's 12 meters (39ft) long, has no engine or rudder. And not like "there has been an accident and they lost the rudder" but like "This boat has never had a rudder". It's a fricking row-boat.

      On board there are 9 rotting bodies ...and 27 cellphones. Suggesting that originally there were a lot more people on board.
      Best guess is that it used to be a migrant boat. They left the African coast trying to get to Canary Islands in the Atlantic. And they missed the Canaries. Current pushes them to south, out to the Atlantic.

      Around 30 people trying to get to Canaries. That's Spanish soil. They can apply for asylum.
      So they get on this dinky little rowboat, packed tight as sardines, and set off. Their navigational equipment? The Captain's old (non-waterproof) cellphone's GPS.
      At best they have some kind of sail, at worst just oars. It doesn't take much of a storm to overshoot the Canaries.

      They end in the mid-atlantic Doldrums... the calm belt. They have no engine. Food runs out. Water runs out. Scorching sun starts to take it's toll. People start dying.
      At first they dump the bodies into the sea. Later, when they get too hungry, they ...don't dump the bodies.
      Months later, a boat with only 9 rotting bodies washes on the coast of Brazil.

      I'm also going to suggest pic related.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >waiting until they're dead to eat them
    Well, it could've been worse. Could have started killing the weakest, or drawing straws.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The legality of targeting Lusitania is an interesting debate. On the one hand, she was carrying munitions (but could the Germans know this?) On the other, she was still being used as a passenger liner. An argument could have been made that any of her cargo (or even paying passengers) were in support of the British war effort but that is such a stretch one may as well just ditch all pretense and say "It was a British ship and thus a valid target"
    A posted newspaper warning announcing intent to commit a crime does not forgive the crime. Even the German Navy reversed their position, originally celebrating the sinking and then going silent about it when they realized how many civilians died and how angry people got.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think even if the ammunition she carried technically made her fair game, at best that's an ex-post facto justification. She was not targeted because of ammunition. She was targeted because she was a British ship in the specified war zone and because U-Boat captains were praised by racking up tonnage. By the concept of mens rea, Schweiger is guilty of sinking a passenger ship, because these were the facts available to him at the moment.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Schweiger is guilty of sinking a passenger ship, because these were the facts available to him at the moment.
        Passenger ships do not carry weapons and ammunition. The Lusitania was also a royal navy auxiliary cruiser and it was the decision on the part of the British to use such ocean-liners to ferry ammunition from the US. Ultimately if anyone the british are guilty of war crimes for attempting to use civilians as a human shield. "Facts" as you call them don't even matter, the Germans only need reasonable doubt, once you put weapons and ammunitions on your ship its no longer a civilian ship and the consequences are of your own making.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kind of an important question, did the U-boat crew know Lusitania was carrying ammunition? You can't shoot someone, find a weapon hidden on the body afterwards, then say it was justified.
          Regardless of how Lusitania was built, she was operating under Cunard at that time. Not the Royal Navy.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's not even true, reasonable belief is justification enough. They don't have to "know" anything.

            >Regardless of how Lusitania was built, she was operating under Cunard at that time. Not the Royal Navy.
            And regardless of that she was ferrying ammunition.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >They don't have to "know" anything.
              >be me in 7/11 at 3am
              >nog walks in
              >I shoot him immediately
              >rummage his pockets and find a Swiss army knife
              >officer I swear it was self defense

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thank you for your service, Officer

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The fact that it happened to be carrying weapons doesn't change the fact that the decision was made to sink a civilian vessel. Because, remember, that's the decision that was made. It was not the decision to sink a ship that will turn out to have potentially been an arguably valid target decades later.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Kind of an important question, did the U-boat crew know Lusitania was carrying ammunition?

            RMS Lusitania's construction was subsidized by the British government with the provision that it could be requisitioned and converted into an armed merchant cruiser and was listed as such in the 1914 Edition of Jane's Fighting Ships. Concluding the ship was carrying ammunition or was even armed wasn't that much of a stretched.

            >Regardless of how Lusitania was built, she was operating under Cunard at that time. Not the Royal Navy.

            Somewhat incorrect, while the ship was never formally requisitioned by the Royal Navy, it nonetheless operated under regulations and requirements established by the Admiralty. The ship was for a time, repainted in grey camouflage similar to the Mauritania. It operated under reduced power and speed (with one of its boilers semi-permanently shut down). And it was no permitted to fly any flags, national, military, or civilian, in war zones.

            Pic related, an authentic painting (by historian and artist Ken Marschall) depicting the ship with all-black funnels instead of the traditional Cunard black and scarlet combination. The same color scheme usually used by merchant vessels being operated by or at the behest of the British Admiralty.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              every british flagged merchant could be requisitioned by the navy

              honestly the lengths you people will go to to try place blame for a wartime maritime disaster that happened over 100 years ago never fails to astound me
              its a tragic event. first of many with unrestricted submarine warfare.
              what does it fricking matter who is in the wrong.

              you want to argue something argue over laconia, where burger arrogance directly lead to the return of unrestricted submarine warfare

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's like hiding your weapons in a hospital or school. The blame should be placed on the people who decided to smuggle munitions with civilians.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Are you saying Israel are the good guys after all?

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So you gonna post the horror story?

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the most fricked up ocean related story I've ever read has to be the one where those divers in Trinidad took the cap off an oil pipeline and got sucked something like hundreds of feet into it underwater. It curved just enough once in a while to have little pockets of air, where they came to a stop. Only the guy in front was lucky enough to not have broken limbs, and was able to hold his breath between air pockets to crawl back to the end, where a rescue diver found him. The rest all died of thirst or exposure, trapped in a pitch black tube, too far away from the entrance for rescue divers to do anything

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and here's the gopro footage of it happening

      ?t=54

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is one of those times I'm glad Youtube's gayass age restrictions cuck me from watching something. I'd be compelled by morbid curiosity, but I'd regret it. That video of the guy who went way too deep of the coast of Israel still sticks with me.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >That video of the guy who went way too deep of the coast of Israel still sticks with me.
          Qrd?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Going off my memory, he was an amateur diver and generally cavalier about his diving. Had a camera, and a seriously bright flashlight. He was set to go to a certain depth, but by mishap or carelessness he went way deeper, like dozens of feet. The O2 mix he had wasn't meant for that, so he starts suffering oxygen deprivation problems almost immediately, too disoriented to get himself out of it. So his camera records him as he flounders around on the sea floor and eventually just stops moving. It's pitch black down there, the only light is what he brought with him.

            Truly nightmarish stuff. Don't have the video, but someone else probably knows what I'm talking about and might post it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Where were the fricking rescue divers!?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Do you think rescue divers are prophetic?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Russian dude?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous
              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There it is. That's what I was thinking of.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nitrogen narcosis not oxygen deprivation.
              N2 becomes toxic at 3bar (30m depth) and acts as a hallucinogen, causing drunken and confused behaviour. The deeper you go the worse it gets. That's why below 30m you use tri-mix where helium is swapped for nitrogen to make the neutral 72% of "air" you breathe.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, my bad. Serves me right for going off memory on a subject I know precious little about instead of looking it up.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Wasn't meant to cause offence with my reply anon - I meant it in an educational way. Thought you'd like to know.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No no, I appreciate it. I always appreciate getting fact checked on things, I hesitate to call myself an expert on any subject but have a nasty habit of talking like I'm an expert on every subject.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Other anon here.

                Feel the same due to my habit of watching / reading stuff on anything that present itself to me.

                I have shallow knowledge on a lot of things and i too like to be corrected when my memory fails me or i misunderstood the data the first time around.

                Thanks guys for the trivia on horrible accidents btw, really interesting.

                To add to the list, à small fishing village near me on the coast of France once lost a fushing vessel to an entire school of tuna getting caught by the pellagic net and dragging the ship down. I recon this must have happened quite frequently around the world until proper load security had been invented.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >à small fishing village near me on the coast of France once lost a fushing vessel to an entire school of tuna getting caught by the pellagic net and dragging the ship down
                Isn't this a plot point in Finding Nemo?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nitrogen narcosis not oxygen deprivation.
              N2 becomes toxic at 3bar (30m depth) and acts as a hallucinogen, causing drunken and confused behaviour. The deeper you go the worse it gets. That's why below 30m you use tri-mix where helium is swapped for nitrogen to make the neutral 72% of "air" you breathe.

              narcosis is no joke in scuba diving
              >be me, trainee diving instructor aged 18 working on a boat in the south of france
              >diving on a wreck c. 40m deep
              >I get assigned one diver to lead, the senior instructor has three people, and the six of us stick together in one group underwater
              >dive goes off without a hitch but we all start feeling the effects of narcosis as we head back to the rope that leads to the surface after around 10-15 minutes underwater
              >some collossal fricking moron in a seperate diving group (two 'autonomes' or independent divers who were from our boat) is also suffering narcosis
              >he enters (as we later find out) into the delusion that his oxygen rig is broken
              >proceeds to start attempting to rip off his own breathing apparatus, at 40 metres down
              >his partner is doing jack shit
              >senior instructor immediately swims over, restrains the dude and takes him back to the surface
              >I then have to (while high as frick off the nitrogen) guide the remaining four divers up to the surface and then back to the boat
              fun times, the moron in question got a hell of a bollocking from the captain. Fricker could've died.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know why you would voluntarily do this shit. I mean, at least you guys were getting paid, but all the other fricks. Doesn't seem like my idea of a good time. Hell, nothing maritime or naval seems like a good time.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You wouldn't get it unless you've scuba dived
                >t. the SCOOOBER
                tl dr it's been a passion of mine since I was ten years old and brings me immense joy and happiness. Also therapeutic as frick. The dangers are simultaneously wildly exaggerated and very real. If you are trained and follow basic safety precautions it's as safe as any sport. If you act like a moron you can and will die. simple as

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nta but i've snorkled in the ocean and frick that. Everytime i go out to sea and lose sight of land. Im not happy. Im a land lubber through and through. Flying can frick off too. Love me some caves and unnaground shit tho

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Parachuting is cool as frick though

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                There's nothing quite like the feeling of weightlessness underwater and the sheer sense of freedom you have from being with the fishes and not drowning in the process.

                Nta but i've snorkled in the ocean and frick that. Everytime i go out to sea and lose sight of land. Im not happy. Im a land lubber through and through. Flying can frick off too. Love me some caves and unnaground shit tho

                caves and mountains are great as well.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                That story is breathtaking!

                https://i.imgur.com/EWeELbS.jpeg

                The end of HMS Hood was pretty grim.

                >18 year old Signalman Ted Briggs is on the compass platform of Hood during the battle with Bismarck and Prinz Eugen
                >A plunging German shell penetrates the deck near "A" turret deep into the ship, detonates the main powder magazine which blows the ship clean in half and knocks everyone on the compass platform over
                >When Briggs got up the compass platform was surrounded by flames and Captain Kerr was shouting into a voice pipe about switching to manual steering not knowing the ship was blown in half with a broken keel
                >The ship started rapidly sinking and listed over more than 30° until it was practically on its beam ends
                >The crew all start abandoning ship without orders knowing the situation was hopeless
                >17 year old Midshipman Bill Dundas somehow manages to donkey kick an armored window out of its frame before jumping out of it onto the burning deck 10ft below
                >Briggs along with most of the crew on the platform head for the stairs out onto the deck
                >As he passes the flag bridge heading down the stairs he sees Admiral Holland sitting in his chair in utter disbelief making no attempt to escape
                >He catches up to the senior Navigation officer who stands aside and motions for Briggs to pass him meaning Briggs was the only man on the stairs to make it out in time.
                >An onrush of water near the exit blows him into open water before he's sucked downward by the sinking ship
                >He's sure he's going to die but he is catapulted upward to the surface and survives despite swallowing sea water and bunker fuel
                >He finds an autodeploying liferaft and grabs onto it but is too weak to get into it
                >he paddles it over to another liferaft with Dundas and a 20 y/o AB named Robert Tilburn who was on deck during the explosion
                >they all tread water for 2 hours together before being picked up by HMS Electra
                >Briggs, Dundas and Tilburn were the only 3 men who made it off the ship (it sank in only 3 mins)
                >out of the crew 1,418 officers and men

                Jesus…

                lol, funny story
                All of those migrant boats should be sunk and traffickers hanged.

                t. moderate European

                This

                Nta but i've snorkled in the ocean and frick that. Everytime i go out to sea and lose sight of land. Im not happy. Im a land lubber through and through. Flying can frick off too. Love me some caves and unnaground shit tho

                >Moleperson fingers typed this post

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                heh

                Nta but i've snorkled in the ocean and frick that. Everytime i go out to sea and lose sight of land. Im not happy. Im a land lubber through and through. Flying can frick off too. Love me some caves and unnaground shit tho

                the funny thing is I actually used to be scared shitless of treading in open water when I couldn't see the bottom. In fact, the first day I went out to dive (parents forced me, 10yrs old) I was pissing myself in terror. But then as soon as I started diving it was cured, like magic, I reason that something about 'seeing' beneath the waves and having the equipment on you makes my brain stop seeing the sea as unknown and unconquerable

                weirdly enough however I still have a strong fear response if I tread water in the open sea without any scuba gear on however. It's like a psychological suit of armor for my fear of the sea.

                There's nothing quite like the feeling of weightlessness underwater and the sheer sense of freedom you have from being with the fishes and not drowning in the process.
                [...]
                caves and mountains are great as well.

                this, it's literally like being an astronaut. As a younger kid I would actively LARP that I was an astronaut on an alien world kek. That and something about the peace, the lack of noise besides the various sounds of the sea, your breathing, and the occasional boat passing nearby, it's wonderful.

                Also, there's something particularly dope to me about diving 30 metres + down an open water rope like that wreck I mentioned. When you start going down you literally can't see the bottom, and as you descend it feels like you're parachuting down from a plane or something as the sea floor rises up to meet you out of the blue mist. FRICK TAKE ME BACK TAKE ME BACK INTO THE SEA TAKE ME BACK NOW NOW NOW

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The first time it started to rain while I was under was the hook for me. Looked like the sky was boiling.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                For me it wasn't just the experiences diving either but the diving environment as a whole. That summer I worked at my childhood dive shop, finally becoming an instructor, getting to know the crew, drinks together after work, driving the boat back after the day's dives and the cigarettes at the back with the sun on my face. Freedom.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the gopro goes black the instant the incident begins, so you don't see anything. But you hear their voices and it's awful

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ah handmade horrors beyond my comprehension

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the most fricked up ocean related story I've ever read has to be the one where those divers in Trinidad took the cap off an oil pipeline and got sucked something like hundreds of feet into it underwater. It curved just enough once in a while to have little pockets of air, where they came to a stop. Only the guy in front was lucky enough to not have broken limbs, and was able to hold his breath between air pockets to crawl back to the end, where a rescue diver found him. The rest all died of thirst or exposure, trapped in a pitch black tube, too far away from the entrance for rescue divers to do anything

        Notice how this kind of shit generally doesn't happen in first world countries with work safety regulations and workers who generally know what the frick they are doing.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Diving is a dangerous job. The school I graduated from got shut down because students died. It was a shit hole school but still located in the states and was internationally certified.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and here's the gopro footage of it happening

      ?t=54

      https://i.imgur.com/UBfKrxT.jpeg

      This is one of those times I'm glad Youtube's gayass age restrictions cuck me from watching something. I'd be compelled by morbid curiosity, but I'd regret it. That video of the guy who went way too deep of the coast of Israel still sticks with me.

      Required viewing

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The animations belie just how awful it would have been to be any of those guys. The crab gives you a window into the true experience.

        Frick I hate the water.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        when it's got you, it's got you

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        When I did a diving qualification in the army, they used to chuck us over to the mad fricks in the navy so you always knew that it was going to be 'extra fun' times out of inter-service shitfrickery
        >Complete basics of not drowning and dying in the water
        >take us out to a muddy dam at night
        >here is 6 pieces of machinery, they bolt together like this
        >instructor takes them apart, throws them about 30ft out into the dam
        >go put it back together underwater

        Thing that makes this so fricked is that you have to find them in the dark, in the mud, its cold, you start losing your feeling in your fingers eventually and you're about 20ft down at night in a muddy dam so you can't see shit. Control breathing enough that not burning through the tanks too quick, but to see your time and pressure you have to hold the wrist meter up to you goggles and sort of angle the torch so it will show you- meaning your components are now in the mud.
        >put the components together-ish
        >think I've got them all
        >neutral buoyancy and can't feel the bottom
        >realise I don't know which way is up
        >dark, fugg!
        >after 5 minutes of thrashing around manage to find the bottom
        >now have a bearing and can go up before run out of air

        There was some... panic for a bit there!

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >neutral buoyancy and can't feel the bottom
          >realise I don't know which way is up
          I feel like it'd probably be a good idea to carry a small plumb bob of some sort for exactly that. Even just a simple fishing weight on a bit of string would immediately tell you up vs down. If you've got it set up right you wouldn't even need to see it for it to work.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The pro-trick is figuring out where your bubbles are going- so if you can feel them on your face or hand, then apparently you can get a quicker bearing.
            But I'm not a pro, just some poor dumb frick they threw in the water!

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I'd rather just have a small teardrop weight on my wrist or something like that and a small plumb bob I can drop to feel the tug of gravity if necessary. Gravity is a lot more reliable than trying to feel bubbles which can be fricked with by current and being numb as frick because cold.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          they didn't give you buoyancy compensators? that shit is fricked, i've been in that position a few times but with a bcd it sorts itself out, no righting needed. feels like they were taking the opportunity to frick with you guys, teaching you submersed work before even teaching you righting techniques is moronic.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >they didn't give you buoyancy compensators?

            haha! Ah no way.
            I was like some 1970's Jacques Cousteau with my wetsuit, goggles, tanks, weight belt, flippers and to get em! This was all very important skills they had me learn, I was already pretty competent with boats after a misspent youth on a trawler, so I'd often end up running a RIB in training and other aquatic shenanigans our CO's cooked up for us to go do. But these were incredibly important skills to have because they shipped me out to the middle east to do 5 tours in some kind of desert or mountain country.
            From time to time I will do little boat things, but I'll be fricked if I'll ever do scuba as a recreational pursuit and am more than capable of killing someone who decides to try and make me.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and here's the gopro footage of it happening

      ?t=54

      Jfc, i couldn’t imagine a fate more horrible

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      and here's the gopro footage of it happening

      ?t=54

      >incident occurred one day into the Russian invasion of Ukraine

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >The fishing vessel Antares was a pelagic trawler based in Carradale, Kintyre in the United Kingdom.[1] She was fishing off the coast of the Isle of Arran on 22 November 1990 when she foundered with the loss of four crew members after her trawl line was snagged by Royal Navy Trafalgar class nuclear powered submarine HMS Trenchant. An investigation by the Marine Accident Investigation Branch concluded that the accident had been caused by "a partial breakdown in both the structure and the standards of watchkeeping on board Trenchant"

    You're out there on one of the shittiest coldest oceans there is and your ship gets dragged below the waves by a fricking submarine. I cant think of anything worse.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How did the sub shrug that off? I was under the impression they were all hyper-dangerous deathtraps, just waiting for a a chance to take their whole complements to the sea floor.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Net around the sub. Im sure someone somewhere was like
        >huh, he should be going faster for the number of RPM's the props are putting out.
        And thats about it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, that makes a little more sense. Somehow when I read the original post I pictured it getting caught in the sub's prop, and essentially getting reeled in.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Antares was a 55 ft wooden-hulled motor fishing vessel of 34 tons
        >Trafalgar class sub 85.4 m (280 ft), Submerged: 5,200 to 5,300 t (5,200 long tons; 5,800 short tons)

        As Anon61533515 pointed out, the sub likely never noticed the wee little bobber it had picked up.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That time an American submarine surfaced too quickly and breached right on top of a Japanese fishing boat, killing a whole bunch of kids that were on a school science trip and then sailed off without trying to help the survivors.
      Then in the incident inquiry it was revealed that the sub captain was fricking around with a bunch of political donors and congressional staffers on the bridge and were preventing the sonar techs from doing their job.
      Then the Captain got shitcanned and decided the best thing to do next was to write a book sucking himself off and talking about how much he loves god and jesus.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >write a book sucking himself off and talking about how much he loves god and jesus

        Those are the best murikan archetypes. Sometimes emulated abroad. Pic related used to dive in rivers to pull down children and dron them. Now he is a preacher and has confessed his sins, so you must forgive

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >pull down children and drown them
          what the fricking frick

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh shit that's general butt naked, I thought it was just some random jobber

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >pull down children and drown them
          what the fricking frick

          Didnt he also rip out their hearts to eat so him and the boys would get magic antibullet powers? This dudes frickin nuts

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >courageous decision to do The Right Thing
        >The Right Thing is leaving a bunch of people to drown
        Death is too kind for people like this, you should be waterboarded every day for the rest of your life for something like this. How do you not have a nice day from the shame?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          maybe our hero was a really big supporter of whales and fish populations?
          > How do you not have a nice day from the shame?
          Bush’s name is slapped onto the cover of that book. Politics is in play and saved his ass.

          >I wouldn't be surprised if it ended in race-riots on the mainland.
          why would it
          the only people who want these migrants are white middle class student activist types

          >the only people who want these migrants are white middle class student activist types
          That's my point. Frenchies and so-on getting even more immigrants while they're already swimming with them is going to exacerbate a lot of their issues with them. Combined with the growing immigrant-fatigue ruining whatever goodwill they had with anyone outside of the relatively small demographic you just described, and i can see things getting very violent very fast. Then again, i'm just an ignorant burger, so i might be reading the situation completely wrong.

          Kinda wrong. the wealthy elite have convinced them to accept the migrants under the guise of equality, diversity, helping the poor, yada yada. In reality, immigration rules were changed in the in the latter half of the 20th century as people were actually earning decent amounts of money and benefits like pensions, shares, and more.
          Big wigs and fat cats don’t like that so they frame you as the big meanie and make you an example of what not to be, so people will support immigration while “low skilled” jobs are given to foreigners who are the perfect pawns, they earn less money and benefits, don’t get the same legal protections, and are disposable-not to mention they tend to vote the same way too.
          In the US we get told that migrants are harder workers that “do the jobs you/we won’t do”. But those jobs are low paying, often dangerous, and are in long hours.
          Migrants maintain these lifestyles from government benefits, so they burden tax payers instead of the companies they work for. Because they don’t pay taxes or put into anything, get paid from their jobs, are on government doles, and possibly even getting stuff from their party organizations, they tend to be wealthier than most lower class domestic populations as people can’t skate or scam the system as they either make too much or don’t qualify for being non-migrants. Don’t even get me started on the in-group preferences migrants have and connections to organized crime.
          This all happens because some wealthy c**ts 60+ years ago wanted to keep more money and power and to screw his fellow countrymen over.
          Funny how unions and pro-labor type folks somehow aren’t against mass migration and demographic replacement but I digress.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Scott Waddle
        the most perfect american surname

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >shittiest coldest oceans
      it's the Firth of Clyde, I went swimming in there as a kid

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like they could have gotten the sailors out by waterproofing and pumping air into the rooms over them one at a time until they cut their way down to where the men were trapped. It'd be ridiculous for a deeper wreck but they were close enough to the surface to be heard from shore. Even a makeshift airlock bolted to the side with air being pumped might have been enough to get them out. It's just always put me off when a potential rescue is put off with the reasoning that they'd likely die. They will and did die from being left there, so may as well be a little reckless

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How expensive would this be, though? These guys are not like the ships they manned, you can't just refurbish them and send them to the front again. Some may still be good, some might need a little time, but some of them are write-offs anyway. The sad fact of the matter is that the lives of a few dozen sailors aren't worth much, so any rescue plan has to outcompete other uses of that time and money in present value.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Brown moment

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I mean it's literally what they did back then
          I guess Amerimutts were always brown lol

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            t. taquito gonzales

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >Says only brown people could do that
              >*does it*

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Shitskin reading comprehension

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The end of HMS Hood was pretty grim.

    >18 year old Signalman Ted Briggs is on the compass platform of Hood during the battle with Bismarck and Prinz Eugen
    >A plunging German shell penetrates the deck near "A" turret deep into the ship, detonates the main powder magazine which blows the ship clean in half and knocks everyone on the compass platform over
    >When Briggs got up the compass platform was surrounded by flames and Captain Kerr was shouting into a voice pipe about switching to manual steering not knowing the ship was blown in half with a broken keel
    >The ship started rapidly sinking and listed over more than 30° until it was practically on its beam ends
    >The crew all start abandoning ship without orders knowing the situation was hopeless
    >17 year old Midshipman Bill Dundas somehow manages to donkey kick an armored window out of its frame before jumping out of it onto the burning deck 10ft below
    >Briggs along with most of the crew on the platform head for the stairs out onto the deck
    >As he passes the flag bridge heading down the stairs he sees Admiral Holland sitting in his chair in utter disbelief making no attempt to escape
    >He catches up to the senior Navigation officer who stands aside and motions for Briggs to pass him meaning Briggs was the only man on the stairs to make it out in time.
    >An onrush of water near the exit blows him into open water before he's sucked downward by the sinking ship
    >He's sure he's going to die but he is catapulted upward to the surface and survives despite swallowing sea water and bunker fuel
    >He finds an autodeploying liferaft and grabs onto it but is too weak to get into it
    >he paddles it over to another liferaft with Dundas and a 20 y/o AB named Robert Tilburn who was on deck during the explosion
    >they all tread water for 2 hours together before being picked up by HMS Electra
    >Briggs, Dundas and Tilburn were the only 3 men who made it off the ship (it sank in only 3 mins)
    >out of the crew 1,418 officers and men

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>A plunging German shell penetrates the deck near "A" turret deep into the ship, detonates the main powder magazine which blows the ship clean in half and knocks everyone on the compass platform over
      There was no plunging fire at Denmark Strait. The range was too short and German gunnery tables don't even calculate horizontal penetration on Hood's deck armour at that range because they knew the fall of shot would not be sufficient to get close to achieving plunging fire. The most likely cause is a 15" shell penetrating her upper belt, into or near the recently extended 4" magazine that collapsed the bulkhead and detonated the aft 15" magazine.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Aren't those 2 different hits? I thought the order of hits were:

        >a hit at the mainmast that sets the "4 ready use lockers at the gun mounts on fire causing ammo cook off
        >a hit that passes through the spotting top without exploding but rains mangled body parts down onto the outside of the bridge
        >the hit that detonates the magazine of "A"

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          also I thought that the first hit only cooked off the ready racks and didn't cause any large explosions of the magazine.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Largely correct until the third hit, the magazine deflagration that caused her sinking was her aft magazine, not fore. There was a 4" magazine adjacent to the 15" aft magazine that was probably hit first before the bulkhead between collapsed and sympathetically detonated her aft magazine which broke her in two.

          also I thought that the first hit only cooked off the ready racks and didn't cause any large explosions of the magazine.

          No, her aft 15" magazine most certainly suffered a complete deflagration that sank her.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Briggs, Dundas and Tilburn were the only 3 men who made it off the ship (it sank in only 3 mins)
      >out of the crew 1,418 officers and men

      Fricking how?

      Even three minutes should have been enough time for at least a few dozen, or even a few hundred, men to get on the deck and jump overboard (it was long enough for the Hood's forward gun crew to prepare and fire a final salvo). Did the rest just freeze to death in the water?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        possibly but no other bodies were found in the water or in the liferafts

        3 minutes is from the explosion of the magazine to the ship dipping below the waves. The time between the ship listing over and it being sunk enough that escape for anyone below decks is impossible would be shorter but its difficult to say exactly how long.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The biggest danger when escaping a sinking ship isn't getting off, it's getting far enough away from it so it doesn't suck you down underwater with it.
        Well, that and the hypothermia.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >it's getting far enough away from it so it doesn't suck you down underwater with it.
          This. A significant amountof the casualties of Shinano died when they were sucked into the funnel or the plane elevator shafts when the ship sank.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the last thing a ship girl does before sinking beneath the waves is funnel vore many of her crewmen
            Grim.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The biggest danger when escaping a sinking ship isn't getting off, it's getting far enough away from it so it doesn't suck you down underwater with it.
        Well, that and the hypothermia.

        I've read Briggs' account and he was pulled under initially. He was drowning, reached a sense of acceptance he was going to die, then a massive burst of air pushed him to the surface.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Whoops, should have read the original post replied to first, just repeated part of it.
          The whole idea of the bridge crew trying to take action, not knowing their ship is already done for, is so wild to me. Most magazine explosions are quite noticeable yet on Hood there were some who only knew something was wrong when the water was washing over them.
          Even those on Prince of Wales and the German ships said it was like a silent flare up.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            in the case of those on the bridge Briggs account mentions an explanation: The funnels blocked the view aft so that if you wanted to visually see the location of the explosion you'd have to go out onto the bridge wings on the compass platform. So they'd know something was totally fricked but not that the ship was cut in half like a 12" sub.

            I just realised that iirc Midshipman Dundas was supposedly on a bridge wing a few seconds to minutes before the magazine detonated (it was when he saw the headless corpse of a Lt fell from the spotting top and landed just outside the wing)

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This should give you a little idea of how these things go down.
        Note all the people trying to escape by sliding down the hull.

        ?feature=shared

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How about a catastrophic magazine explosion killing most of the crew, on film?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That explosion looks so goddamn slow.
        Illusion of scale.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >ship filling with water
        >explodes anyway

        Some frickers just can't catch a break

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>A plunging German shell penetrates the deck near "A" turret deep into the ship, detonates the main powder magazine which blows the ship clean in half and knocks everyone on the compass platform over
      Random crits are fair and balanced.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      is this an add for german efficiency?
      fight biggest warship ever, one salvo, insta kill, almost nothing to clean up afterwards.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fight biggest warship ever
        ...Yamato?
        >german efficiency
        don't look at the Norwegian campaign

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/GhgQNHA.jpeg

      >>A plunging German shell penetrates the deck near "A" turret deep into the ship, detonates the main powder magazine which blows the ship clean in half and knocks everyone on the compass platform over
      Random crits are fair and balanced.

      KABLOOOOEH!!!

      Off-topic, but if you could bring one (1) merc IRL, with one loadout from TF2, which would you choose?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I remember watching a video with Tedd Briggs talking about his experience on the Hood. The pain in his voice when he talks about the navigation officer who lets him pass is haunting.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    that was an alarming short story but i'm glad it all worked out in the end

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >It should be noted that I was not directly engulfed by the fire, but rather cooked by the reflection: I was 3 or 4 meters from the flame. All of this happened in 4 or 5 seconds (…) the burst of flame lasted a few seconds and in that short time it doomed our most modern battleship, but in that tragedy we had a little luck: there was a deflagration and not an explosion (…) The propellant charges of two 152 mm turrets and of one, perhaps two 381 mm turrets, caught fire all at the same time; several tons of cordite, which caused a powerful puff, a huge burst of flame, but did not explode. The explosive inside the shells was not involved, otherwise the ship would have been pulverized (…) TNT explodes, cordite deflagrates, at least ours (…) Roma’s magazines therefore deflagrated and allowed 1/3 of the crew to save themselves.
    >However the trauma, for me, had been so deep that I was so sure that the burns I had suffered would not allow my survival (I was, in other words, so sure I was going to die) that, being then as now a convinced Catholic, I prepared spiritually for death and I waited with calm and extraordinary serenity the moment of death. I was even curious to see what was beyond, without fear, with trust. Since then I have regretted that perfect preparedness for death, and I fear that it will not come back, that when my time comes I won’t have the time or the right spiritual disposition. Frankly, I consider that as a lost occasion.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can't even imagine what it must be like, to be so sure of your death that *you* feel cheated when it doesn't come.

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Canary Islands are swamped with immigrants trying to sell counterfeit watches and israeliteelry to tourists. I've lost all sympathy for them, they aren't interested in a better life they want an easy life and shit up every area they occupy

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Blayt

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/AkJTeHO.jpeg

      This isn't a maritime horror story, this is an environmental, ecological horror story.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        QRD?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea?useskin=vector

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Oh I know exactly how bad the Aral Sea is, just didn't recognize those pictures. Thanks anon.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aral_Sea?useskin=vector

        Oh I know exactly how bad the Aral Sea is, just didn't recognize those pictures. Thanks anon.

        It’s not the Aral Sea silly lol

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well I'm pretty sure it ain't the Great Salt Lake, you wanna enlighten us morons?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Rodeo, CA. It’s just some wrecked tug I saw while touring a winery.

            I looked it up and apparently it was a tugboat called the Polaris and has been sitting there for over ten years. Hit some rocks and was abandoned because the owner was a cheap frick and decided to run off with the insurance payout instead

            It’s close enough that I could have easily swam to up it if I wasn’t wearing a three-piece suit

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Who the frick wears a suit on a winery tour

              especially in CA. you must have looked so out of place

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Poe's only novel (Arthur Gordon Pym) is about almost this exact scenario

  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >horror story
    The horror story is when they land and infect our countries. This is a success.

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lol, funny story
    All of those migrant boats should be sunk and traffickers hanged.

    t. moderate European

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    27 less Black folk in the world. Can't complain about that.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    frick off

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >0 results for the worst maritime disaster in US history
    Wow, how disappointing.

    River Boat Sultana
    >1863
    >right after the civil war
    >Union POWs being shipped back home from Confederate camps
    >everyone in a rush to get home
    >because of corruption and greed, river boats hauling men north on the Mississippi river become severely overloaded
    >steam boat Sultana max capacity of 376 passengers
    >ends up taking 2,128 passengers
    >most are wounded, malnourished, crippled, weak, diseased, etc etc, so they needed help getting on
    >also a lot of cargo was onboard including sugar, horses, pigs, etc
    >2 days into journey just north of Memphis
    >boiler explosion rips boat apart in middle of night
    >many people are instantly blown to bits
    >people are thrown in every direction
    >smoke stacks collaps on crowded decks
    >fires engulf ship in seconds along with many passengers
    >paddles still moving so people in water getting churned up
    >wounded people in the water pulling down others that could have saved themselves
    >people fighting over floating bits of wood
    >several people trampled to death by horses trying to save themselves
    >another riverboat witnesses everything
    >doesn't stop and keeps sailing to raise an alarm in Memphis
    >1,167 perished that night

    Pic related is a photo taken of the crowded boat just a day before the explosion

    ?si=lpmkE9RLGvwuPPGi

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>1863
      after the civil war
      One of these ain't right, anon. Was it 1873, perhaps?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >>1863
      after the civil war
      One of these ain't right, anon. Was it 1873, perhaps?

      According to wikipedia her sinking was in 1865; 1863 was the year she launched.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obligatory

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Here's an oldie, not as old as that one but still a horror

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I remember that one. Absolutely wild what women do. Here’s another classic

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Non-phoneposter-downscaled version to save some eye strain

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Non-phoneposter-downscaled version to save some eye strain

          If you put yourself into the mindset of an idiot 13 year old, a monkey for 20 bucks and letting it loose on a boat is probably highly appealing form of entertainment
          Kind of feel bad for the monkey though, poor little bastard

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Today I will be traveling to see a shipwreck, will post pics when I get back.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    uss liberty

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If we're posting screencaps from anons about their maritime misadventures, here's one I don't see as often.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/3Rje1b5.png

      This genuinely reads like some kind of modern cope post written about kuznetsov. Are there news stories about this or something?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This genuinely reads like some kind of modern cope post written about kuznetsov

        What a goofy thing to say.

        idk if this incident is real but the Enterprise did run aground in a sandbar before in the 80s (and crash into the Cali Channel Islands in 1985). The terrible condition of the ship in the 2000s was pretty well known along with the name ghettoprise. Due to being the oldest carrier in the US fleet and a unique design with the utterly horrific idea of having 8 submarine reactors instead of the 2 large reactors like the Nimitz and Ford classes.

        Sadly this kind of ignominious fate of being kept in service 20 years too long is all to common for carriers just look at the various cursed thirdie ends suffered by ex-RN Majestic class carriers

        Captcha: GAYHSH

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          In her defense, she was quite literally the first of her kind. There were going to be some shortcoming by the nature of a first attempt at a nuclear-power carrier.

          And the DoD has a nasty habit of keeping things in service way longer than they were originally intended for. The entire fleet's getting that way these days.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It was a lot more reliable and available than a certain other CVN that uses submarine reactors...

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unknown technology Blayt

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The stories of USS Mount Hood are horrific. Hundreds of guys killed Final Destination style.

    ?si=ttItC9TboqRfnThF

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >the biggest part remaining from a 140m ship was 5x3m in size
      At least those guys had quick end. Better than being trapped in a ship under water, i guess.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus christ.
      The carnage on the neighboring ship that took the broadside of the explosion must have been awful.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    play stupid games
    win stupid prizes

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The battle of Thunderchild vs the Martian War Machines is probably the most epic in naval history.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    See aftermath

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_ship_Doggerbank

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