Marine littoral regiment

What do you think of the new MLRs that the USMC stood up.
>light infantry
>mobile ASM trucks
>mobile cruise missile trucks
>iron dome air defense systems
>GATOR radars
To me it makes a lot of sense for pacific operations

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe they could also take advantage of the navy’s new counter UAS palletized systems as well

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Does that have any soft kill mechanism for drones too?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why not mount this onto a JLTV? I thought HMMVs where on their way out entirely

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        HMMVs are not being entirely replaced. JLTVs are too expensive and not needed for most things.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          JLTVs number in the tens of thousands. They aren’t really that expensive

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          why

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I'm guessing,
        A: These things probably don't need to be armored.
        B: Many allies already operate humvees, so these can be exported.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You’re probably right

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think the USMC should be made up entirely of MLRs and MEUs and leave everything else to the army.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Pretty unique force structure and actually useful. About damn time

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw got out of the marine corps infantry years before suppressors and m27s were standard issue

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Same. I had the A4 tactical club with 10 miles of rail

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I kinda like the idea, but it seems toothless. Well supported, but toothless. Three rifle companies and no armor to island hop? I get they're intended to create forward airfields, but that's contingent on the islands they occupy being unfortified and putting up no resistance; which doesn't seem likely in an island hopping campaign. IMO needs something lightweight and amphibious, but punchy. Like a modernized Ontos.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The islands being hopped aren’t Iwo Jima sized islands that require armor. They don’t need islands large enough to support an airfield as they have carrier assets in the region. They just need small plots of land to set up missile trucks on. If a large island is being defended by armor there is no reason to even go near it

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Comfy little tropical island with the bros and some missile trucks
        >No hellish assaults on fortified murder mountains or clearing cave fulls of japs
        >Only "opposition" is a small indigenous population of people in desperate need of BWC and green cards
        Ngl sounds like a pretty comfy way to spend WW3

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Indeed. Have the Seabees come out with an excavator and concrete truck to make some comfy underground bunk rooms. Imagine taking a break from playing spades to take a quick swim in the pacific

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            The Seabees are down to a single battalion, and they're having trouble just getting to the Med to help the Army build that silly pier in Gaza. I'm not sure how much they'd be able to help in a future conflict.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Except the fact it's tiny means its easily plastered by cruise missiles.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Assuming every island in SEA and SCS are football-field sized and their anti-air capabilities are on par with the Russians.

            It's pretty dumb. They'll be stir-fried by the Chinese.

            Okay Chang.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The whole reason you are there is to soak up missile attacks. It would be comfy until it wasn’t.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Just attach the USS Carney 50 miles away and nothing can get through. Problem solved

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Right but most of Marie’s held islands in a hypothetical China war will just have to make do with diggin in and whatever is emplaced at the island before the missiles land.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Never thought about it like this before. A small island would be useless in ww2 but now with missiles it’s not

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > They just need small plots of land to set up missile trucks on

        How do you get "missile trucks" on those small plots of land, with no airport or heavy landing craft?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They have landing craft

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >heavy landing craft
          but they do have heavy landing crafts, moron, the LCUs are rated for 200 tons, and the LCACs are rated for 65 tons, more than enough to carry a JLTV with no cabin and a single tomahawk cell
          also those tomahawk launchers look light enough to be slingloaded under a king stallion.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            *sigh*

            The new light Marines, the topic of this actual thread, explicitly do not use real amphibious transport. They're supposed to use the new yet to be designed mini transports to prance around the Pacific before being sunk.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              14 have already been built
              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spearhead-class_expeditionary_fast_transport

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The new transports are a new design not Spearheads, and the Spearheads, except possibly for the new medical variant, are being scraped.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                But they exist right now. And they can be used to get missile trucks on islands. The fact that a newer variant is being designed doesn’t stop that fact

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Decommissioning FY 2025:

                USNS Spearhead (EPF-1), USNS Choctaw County (EPF-2), USNS Millinocket (EPF-3), USNS Fall River (EPF-4)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Okay so 10 left after 2025. Your failing to make a convincing argument for being concerned on how the marines will get missile trucks onto a small island

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                New transports are not a "Spearhead Variant". They're a clean sheet. And the Spearhead is a bus with very limited passenger endurance, and realistically needs a port to unload. There is no wet ramp, well or beaching capability.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                They can unload onto a beach. Says so right in the wiki

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > the ramp for piers and quay walls

                Do you understand the difference between a "beach" and a "pier"?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Do you really think the littoral regiment won't have the ability to land 4x4s?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They just need small plots of land to set up missile trucks on.
        A missile truck relies entirely on shooting and scooting before enemy counterartillery can target them
        Small rocks would be better for solid coastal artillery pieces, such as the beast in picrel

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Enemy artillery? What the frick are you talking about

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          In this scenario the missile and its range is used for standoff capability. The island is not hiding immediately after its strike and it doesn’t need to cuz they will dig in or take them to a boat if a counter attack is coming.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If a contested landing HAD to be accomplished air power would wipe the island as good as it could and then the army would be sent in on their barges

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      When I was in the most utility that the tanks provided was that everyone said they were from 2nd tanks when they got called out for not having a haircut in the PX

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tanks are already of limited usage in conventional land wars, what the frick would island hoppers need them for? Air power and drones are there for all the heavy lifting, the infantry are well equipped enough to handle the rest

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The new amphibious vehicles will provide some armor. But smashing fortifications will be done by the organic air assets of the corps.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > smashing fortifications will be done by the organic air assets of the corps.

        These mini Marines are supposed to go off raiding alone. The big amphibious ships and their air wings aren't supposed to be there. If they were, the Marines would just use their standard assault ships and tactics.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No they will be deployed from a larger parent unit. They won’t be just riding around the ocean you moron. If they were deployed you can bet your ass that the air wing will be all over the place too

          Right but most of Marie’s held islands in a hypothetical China war will just have to make do with diggin in and whatever is emplaced at the island before the missiles land.

          Well when you’re in a major modern war you’re just going to have to risk being blown up. That’s not a good e enough reason not to do it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yea I’m just pointing that out as I have ran through this scenario in my head many times trying to figure out what modern infantry would like in a fight against China.my conclusion is that it’s a bunch of dying to missiles or nothing. Being the defenders for a chink landing would be wild.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > you moron

            Given that you've demonstrated you're utterly uninformed about this topic, you really shouldn't throw that term around so casually.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I am neverserved so can someone enlighten me? Didn't marines have tanks during the pacific island hopping campaign? If weight is the issue, isn't there slightly lighter tanks/armored vehicles?
      Also, isn't seizing and establishing airfields the Ranger's job?
      I am also confused, why is this massive overhaul of Marines happening? They seem to be doing fine so far.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Completely different island hopping campaign. In ww2 the US needed a large island to serve as an airfield/refueling station. Large islands can be defended. Small islands serve no purpose before guided missiles were invented. Now that guided missiles have been invented and are only the size of a steak bed truck, small deserted islands are useful

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          In WW2 the US needed to drag out the japanese war until after Germany had lost so they did some "island hopping" stupidity to completely irrelevant islands to launch completely irrelevant bombing missions on Jap civilians

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You guys are both right. All island hopping could have been forgone but at the time it was just a chance they couldn’t take.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            What was the alternative to island hopping?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Aren't even small islands defensible given proper measures? Like how Iwo Jima was a really bloody fight becasue the Japanese dug in and Kuribayashi implemented smart measures instead of suicidal charges?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's not a small island that's a large island.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I get the weight concerns but, small islands where a 120mm gun can shoot from one end to the other that have at best a hill-line or two for cover feel like the forte of actual armor of some kind.
      Shermans were mogging Japanese armor which have basically the same thickness of the vehicles the USMC are pressing today. I wouldn't want to face one of China's light tanks in anything the marines are driving to shore with.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I am neverserved so can someone enlighten me? Didn't marines have tanks during the pacific island hopping campaign? If weight is the issue, isn't there slightly lighter tanks/armored vehicles?
      Also, isn't seizing and establishing airfields the Ranger's job?
      I am also confused, why is this massive overhaul of Marines happening? They seem to be doing fine so far.

      The USMC is adopting a version of the ACV with a 30mm cannon.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's more about contesting the 1st island chain in a scenario where China is the aggressor then it is about joint forceable entry. EABO thinks about the Marine Corps and land-warfare operations as a subordinate element of prosecuting a naval campaign.

      Realistically any scenario where the US must perform joint forceable entry in the Pacific will heavily rely on the US Army, Airforce and the combat power the bring to the table, it won't be the sole purview of the USMC.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >iron dome
    muh dick. I’m pleased that we have entered the timeline where the US is taking ground based air defense seriously. Just 5 years ago all the marines had was dismounts with stingers

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How does this differ from a MEU

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Well a MEU is much bigger. It has its own combat air wing and logistical unit attached to an infantry battalion and some artillery. They are used when you need troops quickly in a hotspot such as reinforcing an embassy. They’ve been used in the past to reinforce embassies or deploy to combat in the Middle East. They can also conduct humanitarian missions like the ones they did in Haiti

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Ahh ok thanks

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I’m all for it. Wish they had a way to shoot LRASM tho

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They have superbugs and f35s for that

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s an actually useful and non-duplicative capability that makes sense for the marines. I’m a big fan of the idea.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >nooooooo you have to embark useless tanks towed artillery tubes to fight on a 13 acre island 200 miles from the nearest island

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Finally a good thread, yes I think this a smart move. The marines were not supposed to be a second army

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I’m here for it

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, I want my marines in death trap AAVs and obsolete MBTs

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Incredible

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >mobile ASM trucks
    >mobile cruise missile trucks

    ahh yes the "expected" "in development" and "planned" USMC™ cruise missile trucks, may we see one?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They are already in service
      https://news.usni.org/2023/07/25/marines-activate-first-tomahawk-battery

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's so darn cute

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Marine littoral regiment
          Complete trash, the Marine Corp went from being the world's premiere shock light infantry to castrating their abilities so now the entire branch is just a shitty version of a WW2 Marine defense battalion all while being overly reliant on the US Army. The Marines themselves don't even know what the frick they want which is why they are adopting a mismatch of gear while being overly reliant on technology that would not be sustainable to use in any sort of war (see the current conflict in Ukraine). Worst of all, a littoral regiment has no firepower so a typical thurdie mechanized company would completely roll over it. Instead of adopting practical things such as 35ton light tanks and 105mm howitzers they are buying meme shit like this .

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            New Commandant who upends everything to make his mark, then retires before the work is done and disaster unfolds.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The worst part is that it has been a slow burn destruction of the Corps as Soloman has been seething about it for years now
              >https://www.snafu-solomon.com/

              I also hate how there were a few good things they were going to implement (like the new squad that had a Carl G in it and the overdue assistant squad leader) but of course that was too practical and axed it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Pic related is what they decided on finally for their new squad

                While (and the superior option) was previously floated around before they axed it

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Honestly at first I thought you were a seething moron, but I actually think you're right

                Think pic 1 would end up being 2 squads or atleast 2 different elements but that's not really a bad thing. Add a couple attachments like enablers and belt feds and it can really start to function as a small plt for some purposes.

                Honestly 2 of these and a smaller weapons squad could be a really nice task org for a plt

                Like instead of ass1 ass2, sec, support

                Just keep one squad as ass1 and chop up the second as needed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                In what way is the squad layout the USMC has used since the 1950s "new"?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Solomon is a homosexual and a vatnik
                notice that he's stopped doomposting about the F-35?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >gets a new AAV
            >mismatch of gear
            moron

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Well you are nice and early for your shift! Like clock work.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                What kind of response is this? Are you the eglin AFB schizo. What mismatched gear

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >typical thurdie mechanized company
            and how do you think a typical thirdie is going to land an entire mechanized company on a fricking island? do you gays even understand why they're making these changes?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It’s all a coping mechanism because the marines are actually doing the right thing for once. Of course China doesn’t want more dispersed missiles in the pacific

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Please explain how they get their t90mlgbtq onto the island? And using Ukraine as an example is pretty fricking moronic. It's not a US peer conflict.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            t. underage and neverserved

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >AShMs are 'meme shit'

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >They are already in service
        >https://news.usni.org/2023/07/25/marines-activate-first-tomahawk-battery

        https://i.imgur.com/4z1di5M.jpeg

        It's so darn cute

        1 single unit

        lmfao holy actual shit wtf is going on anymore?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >they don’t exist
          >okay they do exist
          >first unit means there is and will only be one
          I am glad to have BTFO you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > One prototype on a test deployment to see if it can be moved on a C-17 is an unassailable arsenal of American Power!

            You're always fun.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          OMG. The number of Tomahawk launchers has doubled in the last 38 minute?!?!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            1 unit will have 16 launchers eventually...
            >expected
            >planned
            >in development
            lol, as usual

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >they don’t have any
              >ok they only have 1
              >nooo don’t post a picture with 2 in it it’s not fair

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            holy shit at this rate there will be trillions by the end of the day

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >okay so there’s trillions but they probably won’t have quintillions

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Marines suck
    They recruit fartsniffing homosexuals who fondle themselves on OnlyFans for change
    It's really embarrassing

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >fartsniffing homosexuals who fondle themselves on OnlyFans for change
      >It's really embarrassing
      link to your moms onlyfans™, when?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is oddly specific

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        army guys and airmen see marines with their jacked arms and sleeves rolled up, and it makes them go into a cold-fusion tier seethe at room temperature

        ^many such cases

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dafqs a littoral mayne?

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Major problem the USMC has is everyone wants to be a salt dog but nobody wants to remember/pass on the basics EX go to any unit and ask any fricker how his back up sights work past 25 meters second POGS/wooks need to stay in there lane hazing needs to be implemented heavily they have destroyed my precious Marine Corps. Third paper trails destroy moral and retention article 15s are handed out for simply breathing wrong, now days everything is paper work it’s pretty much over

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My unit stressed back up iron sight training. Everyone knew how to use them

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Unit? And is it reoccurring requirement in the field let’s say you get new drops those frickers are now late to the iron sight class will they get that same training

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They would have just received the training in SOI and then would have to wait for the next one. Is there a military force that is more aggressive in their iron sight training that you are thinking of

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            russia *~~

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      My unit stressed back up iron sight training. Everyone knew how to use them

      so wait..holy frick, the Marine corp no longer has default iron-sight rifle training?
      ^this is optional now?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        What? SOI teaches iron sights and so do individual units. Concerned?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Concerned?
          ^genuinely
          define "teaching"
          because these two posters

          https://i.imgur.com/bRjPLmr.jpeg

          Major problem the USMC has is everyone wants to be a salt dog but nobody wants to remember/pass on the basics EX go to any unit and ask any fricker how his back up sights work past 25 meters second POGS/wooks need to stay in there lane hazing needs to be implemented heavily they have destroyed my precious Marine Corps. Third paper trails destroy moral and retention article 15s are handed out for simply breathing wrong, now days everything is paper work it’s pretty much over

          My unit stressed back up iron sight training. Everyone knew how to use them

          imply this "teaching" is tertiary, or something that is glossed over in a handwave
          >"the batteries will never run out marine, and if they do, go see gunny-alvarez over there"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Teaching as in they teach you how to do it in SOI and then depending on your unit your gunner will set up ranges for iron sight proficiency. It’s a lot better than other branches do

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >completely gut all capabilities and functions in order to fight a fictional war that will never happen
    >complete trust in technologies that can all be countered by a near peer
    Yeah, real good idea.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They only got rid of tech that’s near useless for their role. China has never demonstrated the ability to intercept missiles in combat

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >their role
        The marines have always been the mini army. Infantry is infantry and combined arms is combined arms. The USMC is useless within any other context beyond taking micro islands that again, will never happen.
        >China ne-
        China has C-RAM, China has radar, China has jamming, China has missiles of their own. It’s a stupid idea that might’ve worked back in the 90s and early 2000s, but this idea now is like still believing that the US “owns the night” when every mother fricker has thermals and nvgs now.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think the Marines should cede the amphibious/littoral role to the Army, that way in the future it'll be easier to disband the entire Corps.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like Island hopping is back on the menu

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's pretty dumb. They'll be stir-fried by the Chinese.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Implessive

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Marines are doing all the right things. If only the Navy could also figure it the frick out, that would be cool. Army is getting there, but doing Army things.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    More relevant to US interests than the entire army

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Incredible

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only Chinese Communist Party agents and their useful idiots argue against the United States Marine Corps

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t think that’s correct

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Frick off Commie

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As to landing troops and equipment, the light Marines don't. Their transport, being bought before it's even designed, is nominally supposed to beach. So any discussion of LCAC and heavy helicopter lift means you simply are not informed on this topic.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What a dumb idea.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What a great idea

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Great structure. It’s cool because only the US could pull a force like this off, maybe the bugs too

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I like it

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Marines are like gods

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      no they are idiots who botch operations and get themselves killed

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think the Marines are "underfunded" because "properly" funded government institutions always become shittier and shittier from bloat

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does any other western military have mobile missile launchers in a rapidly deployable force like that?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      you are asking if any other military has trucks with missiles?
      Are the marines just an artillery force now?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, if you read further I was asking if any other western military has vehicle mounted missiles and the gear to transport them to tiny islands on short notice. Reading comprehension anon

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Literally (littorally) what marines are supposed to be able to do. Probably jumped the gun on restructuring it but it will happen

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Friendly reminder to take a deep breath and keep in mind the MLAR are only 3 regiments out of more than a dozen line regiments, plus all the other combat units like FAST, LAV BNs, Recon Bn, Force Recon, etc.

    So the Corps haven't lost their heads; they're testing/planning out an idea of how the future might play.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Marine littoral regiment
    Marines are already a littoral force, why the tautology?

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Send engineers to drill through it and make an unkillable fire base

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Blows up the entrances with PGMs
      Have fun starving to death

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I’m sure non obvious escape tunnels can be built as well. Some iron domes and EW can be added and an infantry with machine guns and ATGMs could probably defend it. Also a guided missile destroyer can swing by if it needs to

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