Many people expected Russia to carpet-bomb everything in its path in a war scenario. But they can't. Can we say that Russian bombers are completely useless and the biggest failures of this war?
Many people expected Russia to carpet-bomb everything in its path in a war scenario. But they can't.
No air superiority over most of the country. Soviet-era air defense is enough to handle the old Russian air wing.
But I heard about sporadic Tu-22 use in Mariupol.
they used to bomb that factory building i remember some videos
>Can we say that Russian bombers are completely useless and the biggest failures of this war?
I would say the real useless failures are their SEAD/DEAD and CAP capabilities that kept these bombers neutered in the first place. Not to mention the lack of stockpiled pgm's which would limit them to terror bombing if they could fly.
>the real useless failures are their SEAD/DEAD
This is the key to everything.
Despite what you read on CNN and Reddit, Russia isn't trying to mass murder Ukrainians. They are genetically identical to Russians.
>Russia isn't trying to mass murder Ukrainians
In Kharkiv, Bucha, and Kherson Ukrainians found many mass graves filled with civilians killed by Russians. It's already genocide.
>In Kharkiv, Bucha, and Kherson Ukrainians found many mass graves filled with civilians killed by Russians.
>it's true I saw it on the same network that said saddam had WMDs and that Iran will have nuclear missiles soon™
Who are you vatniks actually trying to convince here that mass killings are fake and gay? Even when the corpses are staring everyone in the face with detailed photos with timestamps.
>immediately starts screeching vatnik
Lol lmao
>immediately gets offended by the word
Yep, it's some vatnik mouthbreather.
>but call him a garden gnome and he recoils, "I've been found out"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony
How do you suppose those mass graves got filled? How do you suppose all those dead people got holes in the backs of their skulls? Pathetic fucking vatnik shill, you are going to catch a nuke one day because of the actions you helped support
>Required a whole PR firm to coach her properly
>Story fell apart as soon as reporters were able to enter Kuwait and interview people.
Wow, what a genocide, they took their toilet seats.
At the time Ukraine was handing AK's out the back of trucks to old women.
More likely was a heap of 'civilians' actively trying to sabotage the Russians, and they were delt with.
Civilians that were given weapons like Zelensky said he wanted? Give me a fuckin break with this genocide shit, its a war. You stay in a war zone, you die. 20% of their population already left so its not like it isnt possible. And dont give me none of that geneva conventions bullshit either, a piece of paper from Switzerland doesnt decide on the reasoning that staying in a place where people want to kill you is not intelligent and you deserve the risk. This is like people that walk around a favela at dusk and dont wake up the next morning missing all their organs and their head. I also just hate all slavs, should have put that out their first.
This is a stupid take but at least you got to say cnn and reddit.
This is the same reason hitler wasnt genociding russians either, he was a friend of russia and if he were alive today he would be a friend of putin and fighting against the ukranian opression and crimes
They're also not trying to win apparently.
Jej
>Despite what you read on CNN and Reddit,
What about RT?
Dude, get a grip, RT is more propaganda than any other channel, except maybe chinese ones.
Russians are extremely bad at lying because they have the mentality that when you have strength you can make absurd claims and everyone will believe you.
While most of what you said is true, you completely missed the point of that post. You should probably shut the fuck up.
>Russia isn't trying to mass murder Ukrainians.
Well, they aren't trying to completely level every city in the country at least. Plenty of mass murder though.
They have leveled entire villages. Flattened them out, I remember seeing it on google maps somewhere near mariupol but closer to the border of russia.
Lets not talk about the Ukrainians leveling cities in the Donbass with rockets for the last 6 years though, because technically it wasnt a war, and it was in their own country.
https://twitter.com/biz_ukraine_mag/status/1554146004169105410?lang=en
This village has basically been nuked.
Can Russia still build more Tu 160s, or are they like the Mechanics where they have to sacrifice NEETS and say special prayers to keep running machines, the functioning which are essentially lost knowledge?
They have completed a few since the early 90s, from spare airframes leftover from Soviet times.
Last just a year or so ago.
Make of that what you will.
So then the question becomes how much of that depended on now-sanctioned technologies and services?
>biggest failures
No, logistic is.
Oh the mighty Tu-160. The biggest and only supersonic strategic bomber out there.
>Not allowed to go supersonic as the shitty airframe would start to disintegrate like a snowman in July.
That’s a bummer
Because they are dogshit at it when when they can do it. Webm related.
yeah, probably
The US would have run out of B-52s before they leveled Hanoi. They lost like 16 B-52s in 10 days. You're not fighting defenseless Germans.