Old Western Scrounger just imported some and are affecting the market for them in the U.S.
Basically its an M1935S in 9mmP that the French used up until recently. No idea where they came from since France was supposed to destroy their surplus pistols.
Can anyone tell me more about them?
>Can anyone tell me more about them?
Apparently not anon.
Can’t tell you shit but I will say the FR-F2 I got from them is awesome.
Some of the stuff they sell strikes me as absurdly overpriced. Like the completely clapped out/pitted all to shit 2" model 10 they're asking $550 for. For that price you can still find them in pretty good shape.
Yeah not everything is a deal or priced well, but they do have stuff you literally can’t get anywhere else, and the couple hundred dollar coach guns are cool, definitely want to get one with ejectors next time they’re listed.
They do have some neat stuff, i'll admit that. But when I look at things they sell thatI am knowledgeable on (Like S&W/Colt revolvers) and think that they're trying to take me for a ride, it makes me wonder about the stuff I don't know as much about.
Though that being said i've always wanted a MAC and I am upset that I can't afford one currently.
Well yeah that’s definitely true, some of their revolver prices make no sense, but I can’t say I’m attracted to the MAC the same way I am to the FRs, though it would be cool to have a companion piece, I think I’d rather spring for a MR73 personally. But I am glad anons are so stoked for obscure French guns.
Of course if I weren't a poorfag i'd much rather have an FR, or an MR73 for that matter. But I also love the MAC just because it's a bit odd, like most French small arms.
I definitely balked a little at the MSRP on the MR73s Beretta is importing, 3.7k is a hard pill to swallow when Anacondas and Pythons are 1.4k, but then again it’s not a quirky French revolver.
Maybe a decade ago or so I remember seeing a couple batches of surplus MR73s on gunbroker in the 500-700 range. I kick myself every single day for not buying one, right along with the $400 police trade-in purple slide P7 PSPs that were available around the same time.
Yeah I was very broke when those went on market too, oh well maybe someday I’ll find one for a non-rape price.
Unironically looking at their Midcentury Colt Detective Specials in the $400 range, same with the Light Cobra (basically an alloy-framed Detective Special)
>1k at least
Okay I'm curious, aside from being French what makes them demand that price? OG p210s aren't much more expensive and are highly regarded for their trigger and accuracy. Is it really just a case of it being scarce therefore its woth a lot, regardless of the item in question?
In the U.S. surplus Sig P210s go for 2-3 times as much as these MAC-1950s. Go to Simpsonltd.com and search on them
What makes them rare is that France is a signatory to some convention that says when they are done with surplus arms they will destroy them rather than sell them off. Other than a small batch from Indochina in the 1960s these are the only ones stateside.
Word on the street is as soon as OWS sells out, they are going to $1500.
Gunboards has a thread on them now
Picrel is what you get from OWS, though they raised the price per extra mag by $10 since they are running low
Heh, I actually got deployed with this old beater as a sidearm.
They're mostly beat to shit, anon. But I found it more fun to shoot than the PAMAS (beretta 92) and glock 17.
I've never really understood the PAMAS. They decided to license build a copy of the 92, then cheaped out on the slide steel so it has an absurdly short service life. It couldn't have saved them that much money.
>the PAMAS (beretta 92)
I am going to start asking Beretta 92 posters "is that a PAMAS?"
There is also the MAB PA15 which looks kino but not all of them are C&R-able yet. They are an also-ran in terms of French Military adoption
Another pic from online, get quick fast
Early ones were made my MAC (Manufacture d'Armes de Châtellerault) and use zinc phosphate. SN blocks are A0000 to W1900
Later ones were made at MAS (Manufacture d'Armes de Saint-Étienne) had have a darker manganese phosphate finish. Serial number blocks are FG and FH
(phosphate = what Burgers call Parkerizing)
Picrel is the last time they were sold in the U.S.
Also, Navy Arms/OWS put out a video
>$29.95 in 1961
>$306.20 in today's dollars
They really outstripped inflation. Word on the street is that once they are sold out, the price will go up 50% in the secondary markets.
Im glad I bought my 1951 for 225 bucks. Jesus the fucking prices on some of these old yuro guns.
What happens is once they dry up in the distribution channels, the demand is still there and sometimes grows.
I remember when Century Arms had cracked-stocked M39s 3/$100, now you can't even touch any M39 for under $250
If you can read frogrunes
http://armesfrancaises.free.fr/PA%20d%20essai%20MAS50.html