MAC 10

How would you improve this piece of shit?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lower the cyclic rate and change the stock.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      increase the cyclic rate and keep the stock

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      heavier bolt, more travel

      Few years ago I did a lot of subgun matches.
      > Thompson
      > Colt 635
      > MP5
      The usual shit.
      But the guys that argued about the rules, you know, the IPSC types, began to get into heavily modded MAC10.
      > add a buttstock, usually of the AR or Thompson variety
      > add a vertical foregrip
      > mod the action with some sort of rate reducer
      > add some facility for mounting a red dot, usually pic rail of some sort
      It was still a machine gun and still a bullet hose but not with stupid high cyclic rate

      put a 16 inch barrel on it
      make it single shot or 3 round burst selectable
      add a vertical foregrip
      and a more comfortable shoulder thing that goes up

      barrel, thompson grip, one piece stock. Unscrew the rear irons and replace with rail.
      Also:
      uzi mags, hammer fired for light trigger

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Add a suppressor with a scope on top for stealth + accuracy bonus

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're pretty good

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I thought you were dead?!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Snake! Hey everybody, that's Snake!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sssssssnek plz

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Checked and /thread. Cleary I’m the presence of the Duke.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >bah gawd, that's Snake's Music

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I think I remember reading this prop was like 20 fucking pounds and they could only film in short bursts because Snake wielded it one-handed and if Kurt held it for a few seconds more in one hand he was gonna drop the damn thing.
        I can't believe they found a way to make the MAC-10 even heavier.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Rate reducer might help but honestly it's fine as is for a cheap, compact, lightweight bullet hose

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Call up Lage.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    put a 16 inch barrel on it
    make it single shot or 3 round burst selectable
    add a vertical foregrip
    and a more comfortable shoulder thing that goes up

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      some motherfuckers always trying to iceskate uphill

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      so fucking kino

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    step aside ladies

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How would you improve this piece of shit?

      unironically this

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This but it accepts Glock mags.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        idk if theres an actual kit (lage doesnt make one 90% sure) for glock mags but ive seen 3d printed lowers that accept them that you could slap the lage upper on

        really the only big advancements in pdw tech since the mac-11 are ergonomics which the lage uppers do real nicely

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i mean basically this. Make more of it so you can hold on to the fucker.

      still want to shoot an OG mac though. None of the machinegun ranges I go to let people rent them because they're garbage and put lead everywhere.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The MP7 mom said we had at home.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah your moms looking out for you by not feeding you goyslop guns anon, arms manufacturers might have fooled early 00s police departments about the effectiveness of their silly little bullets but theres a reason that CTSFO arent running around with MP7s even though they bought them - 9mm just werks and if you really, really cared about having your piss small bullet being armour piercing you could sabot it
        FUCK 5.7 and FUCK 4.5

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I wouldnt, its perfect

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    add side cocked and keep it open bolt; add stock and red dot. will fuck and mack bolan approved

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its fascinating how MAC owners will do anything to modernize their transferable machine guns.
    Can't blame them it's more economic to do picrel to a mac than spend damn near 30K on a select fire M16.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      These shits are so fun though.
      3k vs 30k is a no-brainer.

      Pic related is my Suomi KP31 upper. You can adjust the RPM on any of these Lage uppers as well to between 600-1000 with different buffer spacers.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Looks pretty sick

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        obviously it's better than most countries, but still, the gun laws are so bizarre that getting a somewhat regular submachine gun requires you to create abomination from a mac10

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's honestly kinda based. Has this modern day ppsh-43 vibe going on.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      ngl I kinda like it

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    lighter bolt, shorter barrel, get rid of that funny stock completely and a drum mag as big as a manhole cover
    I am become bullets, the puncher of many holes.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I see you want to dump enough lead to make the EPA declare a state of emergency

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Mac-10 Superfund

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      imagine the drive-bys

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    drum mag
    horizontal forward grip
    increased ROF

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Melt it down.
    Give the metal to the Israelis and have them make an uzi with it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >turn submachinegun to reusable hand grenade
      >t. moshe

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >hand grenade
        ???
        Are you suggesting any real Uzi is worse than a Mac?
        I've owned all of them over the years, full-size OG Uzi, Mini Uzi, Micro Uzi, and a Cobray M-11/9.
        After all was said and done, the only one I kept was the Mini, because it's the best out of all of them.

        They're all outdated by modern standards though.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That took me a second, what the absolute fudd fuck...

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Little update here.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And last update, hopefully.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You are like a little babby

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you forgot the ejection port

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Milled forged aluminum

          with this design but move the magazine feed forward and make it ergonomic

          Slap some rails on that bitch

          DONE

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Little update here.

          and where the fuck do you put your left hand in this design? lol

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >mat-49 but ghetto

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Little update here.

      [...]
      And last update, hopefully.

      How about a Thompson mag instead,

      Milled forged aluminum

      with this design but move the magazine feed forward and make it ergonomic

      Slap some rails on that bitch

      DONE

      ?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's a drum, shitbird.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    self destruct feature that grenades everything in a ten foot radius on pressing the trigger

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Few years ago I did a lot of subgun matches.
    > Thompson
    > Colt 635
    > MP5
    The usual shit.
    But the guys that argued about the rules, you know, the IPSC types, began to get into heavily modded MAC10.
    > add a buttstock, usually of the AR or Thompson variety
    > add a vertical foregrip
    > mod the action with some sort of rate reducer
    > add some facility for mounting a red dot, usually pic rail of some sort
    It was still a machine gun and still a bullet hose but not with stupid high cyclic rate

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How were they going about reducing the cyclic rate?

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Add a silencer with a acog on top for stealth + accuracy bonus

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Make it 7'' add bipod

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    She's perfect the way she is.
    Anyone worth shooting is worth shooting with a .45.
    Anyone worth shooting is worth shooting 30 times in one second.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >be ingram
    >make a gun with the cyclical rate of an aircraft MG
    >no foregrip
    >shittiest wire stock imaginable

    What could he position have meant by this?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >no foregrip
      So the dangly handle doesn't count?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Csgo bros be like

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Foregrips do exist for them, though.
      And no, I don't mean the hanging strap.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      pretty sure the foregrip is the massive can you're meant to have on it

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Make it buyable.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Chamber it in .460 Rowland

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      S O V L

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Unlike all the other losers in this thread, I'd play to its strengths instead of fixing its weaknesses.
    >up the cyclic rate
    >give a balls huge drum mag
    >rechamber to .32 acp for more control
    >give it a brace not as a work around, but because it was never really meant to shoot from the shoulder to begin with
    >replace the current sight with an aa style sight that works from the extended arm braced position as a general "you'll hit in this circle" type of deal, similar to the doughnut of death concept

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dual wield

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Chamber it in .30 Pedersen.
    Make it drum fed.
    Increase the cyclic rate.
    Add a folding foregrip.
    Add a bayonet lug with an 18" long bladed M7 bayonet.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Chamber it in .30 Pedersen.
      Ian?

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    My opinion comes to Richard Lage is the Browning of the MAC platform.

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >adding a bunch of shit to a gun that's already heavy for its size

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe not make it so damn heavy. Like seriously, why does this little thing weigh as much as an M16?

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Are they really 3k these days?

    bunch of gays trying to sell them for like 15k on gunbroker.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      These shits are so fun though.
      3k vs 30k is a no-brainer.

      Pic related is my Suomi KP31 upper. You can adjust the RPM on any of these Lage uppers as well to between 600-1000 with different buffer spacers.

      forgot to link

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No Macs are 10kish last I checked. The 5.56 upper is 3k.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    actually shot one,
    some kind of ergonomic grip for the fron side and balance the center of gravity

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    who cares? its a machine pistol for tank crews. It does exactly what its supposed to.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      a gun is a gun is a gun. no matter how much you fucking OCD nerds try to max out your ballistics, there really isn't that much difference.

      I'd rather have two guys with shitty mass produced guns than one guy with a gucci POS he bought off ebay.

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    its perfect THOUGH

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    make it belt fed

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Helical mag

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    isnt the point of MAC-10's is to make it as cheap as possible while being able to fire full-auto?, the design just screams hastily made and budget accessible

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How about putting a sight on it.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Make it into a mp9

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    this but a m10 not an m11

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I though the lower was the serialized MG, hence the AR15 uppers. Why is the upper used in this case?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're correct. The upper is used because it's unregulated and the lower is 3d printed.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          AR uppers are also unregulated. Why not just use that?

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Kriss Vector at home, muzzle rise solved.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I tried it with a transferable, airshit stock, and female-female picatinny adapter.
      It works.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Embrace it's soul as a disposable shit bullethose. Simplify it as much as possible.

    Replace the linkage and mechanical trigger with a solenoidal striker. get rid of the mechanical safety because the gun now uses an electromechanical system and go with a glock style "Finger on the trigger" with a shitty capacitive membrane sensor to complete the firing circuit.

    Integrate some compensation cuts on the barrel to prevent muzzle rise.

    Just fucking fix the barrel to the carrier and have the entire barrel reciprocate inside a tubular housing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Simplify it as much as possible.
      >[proceeds to describe complicating it more than anyone else has]

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >sees only want is wanted to be seen, does not explore an idea, has never seen a generic controller in xirs life.

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Behold

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      About how much cheaper is this than just paying the tax stamp?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He did pay the tax stamp. He just paid for a cheap-ass M10 instead of a proper rifle, and dolled it up to have his FA Mwhateverthefuckthatis.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Well, you know what I mean, how much cheaper is buying a Mac 10 than paying the ATF to drill a third pinhole?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You don't drill the hole, the registry is closed.
            Buying guns/receivers from before the registry closed, macs are roughly $20,000 cheaper than ars.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You can't pay the ATF to drill a new hole without running an SOT FFL that is legitimately engaged in real business. So, very expensive and a part time job.

              Just regular joe nobody buying a transferrable M16 is going to pay about $30,000 to $40,000 for the receiver. A M10/M11 is more like $12,000.

              Well shit. All I can say is I hate the NFA, I hope the Supreme Court manages to undo that someday.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If CRS Firearms has to die in prison for the NFA to be overturned, that's a price I'm willing to pay.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You can't pay the ATF to drill a new hole without running an SOT FFL that is legitimately engaged in real business. So, very expensive and a part time job.

            Just regular joe nobody buying a transferrable M16 is going to pay about $30,000 to $40,000 for the receiver. A M10/M11 is more like $12,000.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >You can't pay the ATF to drill a new hole without running an SOT FFL that is legitimately engaged in real business.
              what the fuck?
              I thought you could taxstamp giggleswitches in burgerland?
              have I seriously been lied to this degree by PrepHole all along?
              I personally know over a dozen people who own several assault rifles and light machine guns each and I live in fucking europe
              I am never coming to this fucking noguns shithole ever again

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Can't do it. They don't let you. If you're gonna drill the hole, for fuck's sake don't fucking tell the government and just do it and keep quiet. Most ATF busts for that shit are braggarts who incriminate themselves anymore, or people who got busted for other shit and had illegal blasters too.

  46. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    No. The magazine is in line with the handle and trigger, not behind it. Come on now.

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    nothing its perfect

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >optimized mag and grip to accommodate the longest possible OAL cartridge

    >Chamber it in hybrid case 221 fireball or something similar to duplicate 5.56 ballistics (maybe .204 VLD with a super low form factor)

    >the portion of the mag that sticks out beneath the grip is quad-stacked or a small diameter drum. >40rd capacity

    >10” barrel

    >reflex design silencer that adds the least amount of length to the barrel

    >locked breech, rotating bolt, with the shortest possible carrier

    >VFG with integrated bipod

    >rate reducer, either inherent to the action or by means of a mechanical contraption

    >telescoping stock as seen in the honey badger, MP7, etc

    Voila. Mag-in-grip guns solved. They’re now bona fide assault rifles, but much shorter and lighter, with lighter ammo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot to add:

      >make the receivers out of polymer and aluminum so it’s not a boat anchor

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How would you improve this piece of shit?
    check and mate, morons

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Fidget spinner is positioned perfectly to wreck the bony part of your wrist when you go to fire it. Great.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        what kind of fucking papier-mâché baby bitch wrists do you have that a fidget spinner could possibly damage them?
        go lift weights you fucking mr. skeltal ass weakling

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Wreck was the wrong word, but you know that shit would hurt. You ever hit your knuckle on a fast-moving fidget spinner?

          Also, lifting weights doesn’t make your bones bigger, retard. Nor does it enlarge your wrists since there are no muscles there.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            well considering that Mac10 in that photo is mine, and I fired it with that fidget spinner on it, I can firmly say that no, it did not in fact hurt my wrist.
            where did I say lifting weights makes your bones bigger? you absolute brainless moron. building MUSCLE provides cushioning to your (specifically) weak as shit bones

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >lifting weights makes your wrist bigger by making the muscles around it bigger

              You’re retarded, and your spongebob gun is gay

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >no argument
                I'll accept your concession. Sorry it took you an hour to come up with that reply.

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    mod it to take trommel mags

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >How would you improve this piece of shit?
    It doesn't need improvement. It's not a pos. It's actually really good with a large can. Maybe make one in .300 blackout or 8.6mm blackout. The wire stock is pretty terrible, but folder attachments do exist.

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