dawn of the dead (1978), great movie, but why the hell are all the M16s in that this weird .22LR knockoff? you can look it up on IMFDB if you don't believe me
also rather funny is during the mall scene where they don't even fire the weapons, they just mime recoil and the SFX team adds gunshot noises
They had a budget at the time that was $500,000 dollars. This movie is the definition of low budget.
makes sense, i suppose, especially given that both day and land of the dead had normal M16s firing normal 5.56x45mms
Day of the dead had a budget of $3.5 mil and the god awful abomination that is land of the dead had a budget of $16 mil.
fair, fair.
now i've never actually SEEN land, but uh... how bad exactly is it?
Its not the worst zombie movie by far, but it was clear he made land for a paycheck
I'm going off of memory but it's supposed to be some "commentary" about "class" and "susciety" and also "rich people bad" or some shit. It's just so poorly done and at times laughably bad. I mean it's just not even remotely good at all.
Also forgot to mention it doesn't have an epic scene of someones face getting blown to smithereens with a 12 gauge.
so day was the last good one then?
Yes
Pretty much yeah
bub go bangbang.
also, bub aside, i always found it pretty weird how rhodes used two .44 revolvers- certainly not standard issue.
Running a monkey farm aint easy
>I'M RUNNING THIS MONKEY FARM NOW, FRANKENSTEIN, AND I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE F U C K YOU'RE DOING WITH MY TIME
Still a thousand times better than the ones after that, with the zombie girl riding her horse.
there were ones after land??????
No I'm putting my fucking foot down and signing a prenup with the floor on this one. That movie is trash and will be lumped in with other modern trash zombie films. Suck a massive fart and squeegee it out of my ass.
This anon is correct about Land. It was a shit movie for a ton of reasons. I've seen some effort to whitewash its shittiness lately by YouTube nostalgia fags but they're wrong.
The movie was made pretty cheaply, I’m guessing .22 blanks and guns were more affordable on their budget.
Like I said they had a budget of half a million bucks
Anon it's a movie go get checked for autism
already diagnosed
>that this weird .22LR knockoff
5.56/.223?
Armi Jager AP74, same people that made a weird 22 AK "clone". Their whole thing was making faux M16s and AKs in 32 and 22 for the euro market for people that wanted a M16 but couldn't because laws
I kind of want a .32 one tbh, I love that caliber
didn't they also make that bizarre .22LR MP43? or was that another european company?
>they just mime recoil
Same deal with Police Academy, I thought it was a limit of SFX technology at the time and every film looked/sounded that cheap before the 90's! Imagine my shock at how great Die Hard looked for a 1988 production
I'd happily have actors die every year of blank gun accidents if every movie used actual blanks instead of adding a muzzle flash in cg
After Brandon Lee died, you think they wouldve learned and just be more safe, instead they turned into huge gays.
honestly I think its less about just safety and more about cost and ease of filming
Yep, an Indian and Adobe Aftereffects is much cheaper than hiring a cinematic armourer
Lefty's are just naturally weak
>I'd happily have actors die every year
>That flinching.
What a pussy
>Yeah, come on, Martinez. Show your greasy little Puerto Rican ass so I can blow it right off! Blow all their asses off! Low-life bastards... Blow all their low-life little Puerto Rican and moron asses right off!
Been thinking of getting one. They're pretty cool if you ask me, even if they're repotedly unreliable POS, but that's been my experience with all 22 autoloaders so that's no issue for me
(op) be sure to mime recoil at home invaders, i'm sure the sound team will be kind enough to add in gunshot effects
jokes aside, what're the costs on it like right now?
there's always a few on fuddbroker for about $350-500. A *very* nice .32 ACP one sold for $700 week before last. the .32s are very rare and iirc only like double digits of them were ever imported into the US
ah, fuddbroker...
also, that wood furniture looks fucking beautiful, reminds me of the russian ADAR 2/15 almost. i've always had a thing for that gun, the wooden furniture and SVDesque stock really do look cool... shame that thing's in .32, i'd def love a variant in 5.56, even if i would never be able to own the fuckin thing lmao
Seeing them for 3-400, think I'll paint it green and put together a life sized green army man loadout for halloween
make that weird base they stand on and jump around like you're in fucking toy story, lol
It's like what an an ar-15 would look like if one of its grandparents was an ar-7.
That movie was the Star Wars of horror. You'll never see a horror movie with that sense of scale ever again even with a huge budget.
Nobody knows how to do zombies right. There's never any of what made Romero zombies so enigmatic. They're supposed to be pitiful as if in a trance, their very existence a violation of metaphysics (and real ones).
Fuck I hate most zombie movies. No subtlety. I wonder what a Kubrick Zombie movie would have been like because that's the shit I want
Hell yeah. People asked him or savini at a convention about the cause of the outbreak. In night of the living dead, they say a satellite returned to the atmosphere with weird radiation, and that was believed to be the cause, then in dawn they make it out to be more of a virus or something. Why did they change it? The real answer was given by the priest, ad the only character to understand it was the black swat guy. It's supernatural, but people don't want to believe there's something out there they can't solve, so the entire course of the films they strive ignore all of that and strive to make it a scientific problem so they can have an illusion of hope and control. Just fuck, those movies were so good.
Have you seen Day of the Dead?
Yes.
When I was 13 I fell for a fake news article that claimed that zombies were real. Me and my friend started making plans to survive.
I will never forget that sensation of fear and exhilitation. The 1990 remake of Night and act 1 of the 2004 Dawn Of The Dead remake comes closest to capturing how we both felt. There's this genuine feeling of constantly needing to shower and hyperreality.
It really is disgusting how low effort most
zombie films are
Romero's og trilogy is GOAT for not just being the original but having the most authenticy and local PA flair
Shaun Of The Dead came out at EXACTLY the right time and EXACTLY the right country. Any earlier or anywhere else and any less and it would have been shit.
Return Of The Living Dead has that punk vibe and Fulci has that borderline pornographic eurotrash vibe
28 Days Later like Shaun benefits from being
>British
>Coming out right after 9/11
The Remake of Dawn is flawed but has the strongest opening of any Zombie movie imo and really (unintentionally) captures the sense of germaphobia and agoraphobia a zombie film should have
I want a psychedelic surreal zombie film with the scope of a biblical silver screen epic. I want Apocalypse Now or The Shining with Zombies. I want slow scenes to build tension. I don't want an explanation for the event. I want characters getting infected from bad hygiene or without any explicit cause. I want the nihilism mixed with Biblical millinearianism. Make the soundtrack on a fucking analog synth and a theramin with royalty free music samples.
I don't want snarling meth addicts with too much makeup and plot device viruses and Mad Max wannabee actors. I want real people. Film it in fucking Detroit or West Virginia or some shit. Walking Dead sucked ass in part because the zombies didn't trigger the uncanny valley effect
Fuck you and fuck hollywood.
just go to a random slum in a major city, most people look exactly like the zombies from dawn anyway lmfao
I live near SF and ironically have only been like 4 times in my entire life last being 12 years ago. If I ever return I'm gonna play the Day Of The Dead soundtrack through my airpods just for the shock value while dressed as Miguel.
i've played L'alba dei morti viventi numerous times while watching those kinds of videos, so you're certainly not alone, lmao
i dislike the current state of both mainstream and art house horror. There's enough nihilism and fear in the air right now to make something really good and timeless but nobody has the balls to do it. I've slowly been accumulating vintage camera and audio equipment. Currently eyeing a HVX200. Who knows...
remember me if you ever get into anything serious, lmao....
i'll probably still be there, posting threads about shit from movies. already did a conan one earlier this week, maybe next week i'll do one about the terminator... who knows
really hope you can make it though, with how the industry is going, 'movies' on literal fucking youtube somehow seem """""better"""""" (i use this term very loosely) than the average 'blockbuster' horror bullshit they release in cinemas
if I ever do (I don't actually want to be a filmmaker, i'm just pissed off) I'd
probably post on PrepHole. Romero's techniques still hold up. The equipment I've collected is mostly turn of the century analog stuff used in Skateboarding demo tapes and 70's era photojournalism shit.
The original script for day of the dead was supposed to be pretty epic in scope, budget cuts ended up making it a much smaller movie
Remember when Walking Dead came out. They played it up, and made this whole thing about it being a gritty survival story. First or second episode jad some dude finally blowing the head off his zombie wife, but they were really just slow. Not building but just boring, but it had potential. Then at the end of the 3rd episode they chained a trouble maker to a pipe and left him on the roof to die, and I was in. Then they show the scenes for the coming episode and it's them risking their lives just to go back and free the jerk just because they aren't like that. That's when I gave up on the show. I really wanted to like it but it was just too retarded
There's been a couple times movies actually got me to yell out 'Woah!" when watching them, few enough that I can remember them.
>the ending of the original Manchurian Candidate
>the final flash back in Vanishing Point
>the dude getting his head exploded in Dawn of the Dead
So obviously Dawn of the Dead is his Magnum Opus, but just talking about Romero, I always thought It Follows was super underrated. Jad that perfect nostalgic lens of your average suburban teenage days. Wasn't crazy parties or trips to amusement parks or any of that Hollywood crap. Just kinda chilling day in and day out, hanging with your friends. Then that constant looming threat, like it doesn't seem that bad at first, but you know it's coming, it will kill you, and there's really nothing you can do about it except try to put it off. Pass it on to someone else. In modern cinema, where the one night stand is the ultimate goal of the teenager, thus turns it into a nightmare. It strikes out against casual sex. Warns against degeneracy.