First, no he didn't. There's zero evidence Rexes predated on Triceratops.
Second, the elephant can turn faster.
Lions wouldn't eat wildebeest if they could out-turn them and shatter every bone in their body with a headbutt.
flesh is still flesh, tissues are still made of organic matter that follows the laws of physics, and the body also has to follow biological laws.
all Bullets will penetrate dinosaurs, and rifle calibers will penetrate deep enough to cause substantial tissue damage.
At the very least they will bleed out.
Now whether you survive and kill the dinosaur before it kills you is a different story.
The ones that talk tend to be characters. I heard of one that would mimic a noise it's owner's diabetic monitor made when there was something up with their blood sugar, prompting them to check it to make sure every time.
Or just shit like this
They can also, of course, be taught to say nagger.
don't unless you want a pet that is loud, smart, capable of depression, capable of grudges and has the emotional capacity of a lizard. taking care of them is a full time job pretty much and you always need to be on your toes.
>I should get a parrot.
Don't, they're a lot of work, NEED lots of socializing or they go insane and mutilate themselves, live for decades and absolutely WILL break your heart when they die.
Corvids are some of the smartest non-human animals in the world, they figured out how to work vending machines even if they never quite figured out exact change
88% of the human population couldn't read in 1820.
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Not because of lack of ability
You can spend the entire lifespan of a raven trying to teach it to read, good luck
>IIRC even parrots have less developed brains than a 3 year old
Border Collies are apparently around the age of 7 in terms of human intelligence.
They don't read either
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When we compare intelligence, we don't really look at speaking, reading and gestures, since those are not binded to intelligence, we look at pattern recognition, problem solving, environment comprehension and stuff like that.
Collies can memorise far more names than a 7 year old child and New Caledonian crows probably can match their problem solving skills, not to talk about short-term memory of chimps which is superior to humans in all fields.
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Alright, just gotta learn to speak crow first
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>speak crow first
I don’t see what good a rain dance will do but have at it
I love these fuckers, the crest thing on their head that goes up when they're excited really adds to how based they are. I'd never get one with how they live and how much attention they need but I love watching videos of them and stuff.
>once in a lifetime chance to kill a male tyrannosaurus buck extinct for 65 million years. >the top terrestrial apex predator of all time >let somebody else kill it
Smaller dinosaurs like Hesperonychus would be more of a threat than Tyrannosaurus because they would be harder to spot and would cause greater damage to livestock.
>Smaller dinosaurs like Hesperonychus would be more of a threat than Tyrannosaurus because they would be harder to spot and would cause greater damage to livestock.
Yeah, also could more easily navigate dense NA forests and built up areas. And just plain there'd be like 100x more of them, apex predators never have very much in the way of numbers.
> Hesperonychus
If there’s like 100 of them, sure. But it’s a 5lb bird with 1” claws. A couple could fuck you up but it’s hard to imagine those being a big threat to humans. A shotgun and pheasant loads would obliterate them. A semi auto .22 would work great also.
Is that supposed to be a mutant or one of those new t-rex visualizations where they think dinos had proto-feathers now?
Anyway, those things seem to have been in the same mass range as African Elephants, like 5-8 tons. Putting aside that the modern world doesn't have enough oxygen in the atmosphere to support their normal metabolism and that I live in the north where it's too cold for them, any round suitable for taking down an elephant should be fine for a rex, but also if we're talking defense vs hunting you could go somewhat lower since it's fine to dump rounds into it at closer range using structures.
So I think I'd be ok, lots of cover here, and 300wm or even 308 should have plenty of penetration at 100yd.
It's technically outdated now because we have skin impressions that show that T-Rex had scales over most of its body. Pic related is the most current interpretation of what it may have looked like.
Youtube really likes to recommend these to everyone in waves don't they. Whenever they pop up for me there's bound to be a thread on /k/ about dinosaurs with videos like this in it.
I was watching that new The Rolling Giant video because I like analog horror. From there I got recommended another analog horror video called San Diego Incident, which happens during the end of The Lost World where the T-Rex is sperging out in San Diego. From there I got recommended a bunch of dinosaur videos with the call videos being a few of them.
>Did't know it's been refuted.
It was always a stupid meme; the chinks found a feathered tyrannosaurid from an unusually cold environment and """paleo artists""" went full retard putting feathers on T. Rex, which lived in a sauna. Just as a point of reference, it's estimated that when T. Rex was around the average sea surface temperature was around 35C globally, the poles had a climate comparable to New Zealand and it was warmer at the 45th parallel than it is at the equator today.
>outdated now because we have skin impressions >now
The publication of scaled skin impressions on crown Tyrannosaurids predates Yutyrranus and the other feathered stem tyrannosauroids by half a decade. Anyone who has even a modestly comprehensive understanding of Tyrannosaur scientific literature knew from the beginning of the feather-rex “debate” that it was a dumb joke. It was a non-controversy anywhere that wasn’t normie space.
because for about a decade or so the completely unscientific fad was to add feathers to fucking everything regardless if any evidence actually existed for it or if it even made sense. Paleo artists are dumb.
Daily reminder most animal skull structures look extremely different from their face. Most Dinosaur depiction is just archaeologist merely putting skin around the bone.
Along these lines, the way creatures on extreme environments look on earth, like deep sea or cave creatures, I bet there are environments on other planets with low gravity, darkness, weird situations, where the life looks like unimaginable horrors
We have a good idea about what trex looks like. No feather, at least in adult. Not skin and bone, but the face is generally the same, without the exposed teeth
It's the raptor and its family that have feathers
the rough consensus was it operated like a polar bear, being an opportunistic predator that would gladly use its size to scare smaller predators off kills but being fully capable of actively hunting on its own
Many lizard are basically that though. They aren't like us mammals with lots of facial muscles and fat. And an artist making up random shit to put on the face is worse than putting on nothing at all.
>don my loincloth >saddle up my Triceratops >whistle for my pack of loyle Utahraptors >grab my shield and spear
prehistoric problems require prehistoric solutions
>he doesn't know that the megacrabs are his great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandchildren
>megacrab female with a time machine >I'm your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandchild >megacrab male with a time machine >?
if my ar10 and 12 gauge with slugs doesn't cut it i've got real big problems. im planning on using this thread as an excuse to my wife to buy a semi auto 50.
Why would you want to hunt megacrabs? Megacrabs are our friends. Megacrabs are the future. Megacrabs will solve all the problems of humanity, and finally bring about peace as well as the extinction of octopi.
They're starting to experiment with mycelium bricks for building structures, so you might have been born just in time to witness the great fungal jihad
I saw how my hens hunt and eat mice and they're like killer robots with lightning fast reflexes. If a t-rex is only half as aggressive as those it would already be terrifying.
I keep a .357 magnum next to my desk (work from home). I don’t keep 200gr soft tip in it though, it’s loaded with 125gr hollow points and I don’t think those would penetrate to vitals.
I’d try my best but would probably die.
the stunningly bad idea is de-extinction in the first place. (whereas uplift is just a necessity, first for humans and TBD for select species after that.) i'm not involved in this stuff, i just know some people who work with church et al, on shit like the mammoth thing. i'm much more concerned with preservation of current biodiversity. but to voice this in the current zeitgeist would be to play useful idiot to groups that don't care about either pursuit.
as things stand, seems like the mammoth project is inevitable but everything else hangs in the balance of their results.
the pop culture meme that scientists don't think about the ethics or extended consequences of their work is basically just a lazy writing device, and an excuse for professional-managerial do-nothings to be employed by research institutions. bioethicists are uniformly terrible people.
>for select species after that
do you want killer whales anon? cause that's how you get killer whales
not the orca kind, the Moby Dick kind >i'm not involved in this stuff
not saying you are
it's a joke, lighten up >the pop culture meme that scientists don't think about the ethics or extended consequences of their work is basically just a lazy writing device
yes
scientists know it's a bad idea and go ahead with it anyway
>do you want killer whales anon? cause that's how you get killer whales
But orcas are man's best friend on the se- >not the orca kind, the Moby Dick kind
Oh
the algo is suggesting dino gun stuff to everyone in the community again.
trend in anything = google / facebook / apple / MS algo decided to recommend some obscure shit to 2 to 3 billion people over the course of a couple weeks = new "trend"
We all know how easy the average NPC is to manipulate.
remember that elephant that took like 93 rounds of small arms fire in hawaii?
i have a 12ga shotgun with a bunch of different rounds, but who's to say i can put out enough firepower before it reaches me?
>Crocodiles are archosaurs, but not dinosaurs
I know, and technically pterosaurs are not dinosaurs
practically speaking though I don't see the difference
Big fuck-off prehistoric lizard is a big fuck-off prehistoric lizard
I mean none of them are very similar to lizards at all evolutionarily or physiologically. The confusion ultimately is just a result of Linnaeus grouping reptiles together based on a handful of characteristics. Also a lot of dinosaurs were small, things like Velociraptor were only slightly larger than a house cat.
>none of them are very similar to lizards at all evolutionarily or physiologically
and I'm saying I don't care lol
proper science aside, to me a big scary scaly archosaur is a big scary scaly archosaur >Velociraptor
poor Deinonychus got cucked so hard tho
>Lists birds are living dinosaurs, but then claims crocodiles aren't dinosaurs, despite the fact that both birds and crocodiles are archosaurs
Also fun fact, crocodiles are more closely related to birds than lizards.
Yes, I'm aware of this, dinosaurs are a group of archosaurs and birds are a group of dinosaurs, crocodilians are another, separate lineage of archosaurs.
>Lists birds are living dinosaurs, but then claims crocodiles aren't dinosaurs, despite the fact that both birds and crocodiles are archosaurs
Also fun fact, crocodiles are more closely related to birds than lizards.
>Crocodiles are dinosaurs
I love crocs even more now
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No, crocodiles are a lineage of archosaurs, dinosaurs are a different lineage of archosaurs.
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The overall body plan of crocodiles has barely changed for over 80 million years, a few minor changes and size have changed over time but for the most part the overall design of crocodiles was so perfect that they basically didn't need to evolve to stay competitive.
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>admits the design is perfect >still believes in evolution
ngmi (into the Kingdom of Heaven)
Whats so fucking difficult to understand. Birds are dinosaurs because they descend from them crocodiles do not descend from dinosaurs and in fact predate them so they are not fucking dinosaurs.
>Crocodiles are archosaurs, but not dinosaurs
I know, and technically pterosaurs are not dinosaurs
practically speaking though I don't see the difference
Big fuck-off prehistoric lizard is a big fuck-off prehistoric lizard
Despite the name Dinosaurs are not lizards they are however reptiles (and so are you for that matter)
>a feathery beaky harmless chicken is descended from dinosaurs ie big scaly fuckoff lizardlike reptiles >a crocodile despite also being a big scaly fuckoff lizardlike reptiles are only distantly related to dinosaurs >crocodiles are actually more similar to said feathery beaky harmless chicken, the most widely eaten animal on the planet, despite the croc being a big scaly fuckoff lizardlike reptile
I hate this timeline.
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Feathers or proto-feathers of some form are probably an ancestral trait common to all dinosaurs, since they are also found in Pterosaurs, which branched off from the avian lineage before dinosaurs evolved and there is proof that dinosaurs from many very distantly related groups had feathers, and it's not very likely they evolved multiple times independently.
https://i.imgur.com/QRQotys.jpg
It's technically outdated now because we have skin impressions that show that T-Rex had scales over most of its body. Pic related is the most current interpretation of what it may have looked like.
[...]
I was watching that new The Rolling Giant video because I like analog horror. From there I got recommended another analog horror video called San Diego Incident, which happens during the end of The Lost World where the T-Rex is sperging out in San Diego. From there I got recommended a bunch of dinosaur videos with the call videos being a few of them.
A little simplified, Tyrannosaurus probably still had feathers, but they probably only covered some parts of the body, or they were very reduced feathers that don't show well on skin impressions. Feathers vs scales isn't necessarily an either-or situation, birds have scales too. We know that most of Tyrannosaurus' recent ancestors (e.g. Guanlong, Sinotyrannus, Yutyrannus) had feathers so it is all-but certain Tyrannosaurus had them in some capacity. It's also possible they had them as juveniles but lost them as adults. It's genuinely one of the evolutionary mysteries of Tyrannosaurs, that there is strong evidence early Tyrannosaurs had coats of feathers, but strong evidence against some of the later Tyrannosaurs having them. May also be some epigenetics going on in the same sense that birds today have the genes to produce teeth, but they're just deactivated.
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>Tyrannosaurus' recent ancestors (e.g. Guanlong, Sinotyrannus, Yutyrannus)
These animals are not recent ancestors of Tyrannosaurus rex, and as Tyrannosauroids, instead of Tyrannosaurids, they aren’t even actually as closely related to Tyrannosaurus rex as something like Pierolapithecus is to Human beings. More comparable to how related we are to something like a baboon.
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That's fair, but they're still recent enough to show that the existence of protofeathers was present in their evolutionary lineage.
Really doubtful that an adult Tyrannosaur would bother with a human as food. It's a 5-8 ton animal, a 160-240 lb average animal would not be terribly nutritious for it. It might go for you if you walk up to it or are just standing around, but I can't imagine one would expend effort to chase you down or anything
Perspective is making it look smaller than it is, but also there are different morphologies of Tyrannosaurus, some are much more gracile than others, it's not sexual dimorphism though, we don't know what caused it.
the obvious answer is just diversity between geographical or temporal space. different subspecies within the same species, or different species in the same related family, or even distant ancestors from each other
Salmon would average about 1.2% the weight of a bear (10lbs vs 850lbs). A human man would average about 0.9% of a Tyrannosaur's weight (180lbs vs 18,500 lbs). But you're missing a significant part of the equation for the bear, which is that salmon runs are annual, predicable events with massive amounts of salmon confined to a small area where bear can catch them with almost no effort. Bear don't have to chase salmon down.
Have you never seen the salmon run? The salmon are swimming to the bear, not away from it, and they are jumping out of the water. The bears just have to wait for them.
Bears can also catch salmon in the river
I dunno man I feel like a T-rex could be a pretty successful ambush predator of humans
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I think Tyrannosaurs evolved to prey on animals that were as big or even bigger than them and would pay little mind to a skinny little primate.
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I think Tyrannosaurs evolved to prey on animals that were as big or even bigger than them and would pay little mind to a skinny little primate.
Most current estimates don’t have full grown Rex’s being much of any faster than a typical human in a sprint, meaning a human isn’t going to be worth the caloric burn and potential failure of a hunt.
Juvenile Rex’s on the other hand are a whole different story, the size difference would make a human a much more worthwhile meal and it’s thought they were much faster than adults
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>Ambush predator that shakes the ground when it moves and breathes as loud as an idling tractor.
>not nutritious >but slow >plentiful >has hunted away most of the other prey >you try finding a herd of giraffe in a city >will snack on the old, fat, unwell, children, blissfully unaware etc etc etc
It could literally stroll through a street and eat while it walks
No it couldn’t cause you missed one important point >extremely dangerous and destructive when in large groups with access to weaponry
We’ve driven entire species of predators to near or total extinction because we found them to be a nuisance much less dangerous, that typically makes for a bad prey item, hooman big brain > size teeth or claws all day every day
>Really doubtful that an adult Tyrannosaur would bother with a human as food.
Are you high? Tyrannosaurs had vision on par with a hawk, a sense of smell on par with vultures and most likely topped out at over 20mph for short sprints with the ability turn on a dime. While I don't doubt that one would pick a cow over a human any day of the week, there's no way they'd pass up on a meal as easy as we are. Imagine that you haven't eaten all day and all of a sudden as you open your front door you smell something promising. You round the corner into your dining room and spot a some french fries on the table, which then start to scream and scuttle away at what is for you a fast walking pace. What would you do?
https://i.imgur.com/GN4yb38.jpg
[...] >TYRANNOSAURUS IN F-14s!
>They travel in squadrons
>You get your first visual contact over the with this "overpriced meme" as you're in international airspace over the Pacific >It's not too impressive, wobbly, odd shape; and you maintain your course because you think that they're not interested in you >Not the Raptor, you stare at it and the pilot stares right back >That's when the intercept comes - not from the front, but from the side, the other two Raptors you didn't even know where there >The Raptor is a pack hunter; she uses sophisticated stealth materials and systems integration and she's out in force today >As they fly over you they flash this, their primary weapons bay - six AIM-260s >They don't bother to wave, no, not like Europeans >They could target your tail, or maybe your engine, or maybe just blow off a wing and watch as you tumble into the ocean, but decide not to >The point is, you are alive when they humiliate your entire aviation industry >So, you know, try to show a little respect?
>You round the corner into your dining room and spot a some french fries on the table, which then start to scream and scuttle away at what is for you a fast walking pace. What would you do?
Wonder when I took a few tabs of acid.
>You round the corner into your dining room and spot a some french fries on the table, which then start to scream and scuttle away at what is for you a fast walking pace. What would you do?
brother if the french fries are crawling I'm sure as fuck not eating them
Salmon would average about 1.2% the weight of a bear (10lbs vs 850lbs). A human man would average about 0.9% of a Tyrannosaur's weight (180lbs vs 18,500 lbs). But you're missing a significant part of the equation for the bear, which is that salmon runs are annual, predicable events with massive amounts of salmon confined to a small area where bear can catch them with almost no effort. Bear don't have to chase salmon down.
Housecats (4-5kg) seem perfectly happy to hunt down mice (~40g). And presumably that's what ferals and farmcats do.
>that's what ferals and farmcats do
Can confirm
seen them at it
I've got a porch cat. He showed up in May out of nowhere and lives on my back deck. Cant bring him in,, already have three indoor cats. Helps keeps raccoons and rats out of my yard in the shithole city I live in.
Typical body mass to food weight ratio sits around 100-125. A 13,000 pound Trex would get a day and a half of calories from a single normal weight human male.
I wonder what is someone's reaction to something supernatural lika a dino, ghost or an alien. Do we just shit ourselves and go into frozen shock because our brain cant process it?
same as anything else, fight or flight with a small minority freezing up. the part of your lizard brain that floods you with adrenaline when shit gets spooky is really deeply hardwired into you and it does not wait for your conscious brain to process things before kicking in
Primates have been in an evolutionary arms race against snakes since primates have existed. Fun fact, after hominids gained the ability to throw objects, some snakes evolved the ability to spit venom to counteract it. The first snakes evolved this ability in Africa about the same time that hominids gained the ability to throw rocks at them. Other snakes in Asia independently evolved this ability as well a short time after homo erectus arrived.
The other guy is full of shit. There’s no way to know the exact timeline of events for sure. And yes, you are a heritage traitor. No mentally well person likes snakes. Promptly have a nice day.
t. heritage loyalist who hates snakes and snake enjoyers
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But milk snakes are so colorful and cute.
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>There’s no way to know the exact timeline of events for sure
True, but we can make some educated guesses. The ability to spit venom is pretty useless against animals like zebra that have side facing eyes, but effective against species with forward facing eyes like primates or most predators. The odds of it showing up several times around the time we think hominids arrived would be a massive coincidence.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abb9303
The other guy is full of shit. There’s no way to know the exact timeline of events for sure. And yes, you are a heritage traitor. No mentally well person likes snakes. Promptly have a nice day.
t. heritage loyalist who hates snakes and snake enjoyers
No way to confirm your theory but I like it. Snakes clearly hold a large part of our collective memory, I mean heck we even blame one for getting us kicked out of the Garden of Eden.
In a way I guess you could dissect that story and make it >dumb primitive humans >happy in their ignorance with their simple lives >snakes start killing dumb humans >humans forced to get smarter >learn to throw rocks, etc. >smarter humans realize they are naked and no longer content with their simple lives >human suffering begins
I read a fun article recently about how snake venom might have been one of the key origins of human consciousness that maps appealingly cleanly to a lot of humanity's oldest myths. https://www.vectorsofmind.com/p/the-snake-cult-of-consciousness
Obviously it's 99.7% guesswork and we'll probably never get anything even approaching real evidence once way or another but it's cute how well the guy ties it all together.
>snake venom helped ancient man evolve advanced prefrontal cortexes by hallucinating self-awareness into existence >proof: snake venom can cause hallucinations and snakes are revered in various religions around the world
This guy is so far up his ass he can probably orally masturbate his prostate >inb4 aha an ouroboros reference! proof that penises evolved from snakes or whatever
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it's anthropology, there is no such thing as proof
and if you'd actually read it you'd have known that it actually has almost nothing to do with physical evolution and is instead offered as a possible, if only 60% serious, explanation to the sapient paradox, or why anatomically modern humans were around for almost 200,000 years before suddenly developing much more complex behaviours and civilization in the last 10-20k
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>there is no such thing as proof
I use the word loosely as in that any theory must have some form of reasoning why >if you'd actually read it
I did >you'd have known that it actually has almost nothing to do with physical evolution
That is what I alluded to >only 60% serious
So it's very fanciful bar talk >why anatomically modern humans were around for almost 200,000 years before suddenly developing much more complex behaviours and civilization in the last 10-20k
Yes, I got that
Still an incredibly retarded proposition
A more serious answer is probably that we don't know quite as much about human anatomy 200 millennia ago as that statement asserts and we are building a lot of theories on theories on theories with so many possible alternatives that it renders the whole house of cards meaningless
>IIRC even parrots have less developed brains than a 3 year old
I said toddler because it's generally around the range of a 2 year old and that's fimly toddler age for me.
When you say to Tabaqui* "My brother!"
When you call the hyena to meat,
You may cry the Full Truce with Jacala*,
The Belly that runs on four feet!
-Kipling.
Have some more fun and hear the current scientific interpretation of what a Tyrannosaurus would sound like. It's somewhere between a murder goose and a horror movie soundtrack.
>the current scientific interpretation
SOMEBODY'S current scientific interpretation
one is rarely very sure how widely-accepted in the scientific community these things are
Barring alternative takes and depictions, I will continue to use this one. The supporting evidence provided seems as legit as can be expected for creatures that haven't existed for 65 million years and the results are satisfyingly spooky.
Especially the Dryptosaurus. The Dryptosaurus can fuck right off.
>Dryptosaurus >H-HUUUUUUUUUHHUAAAAAEEEEEEGHHUHUHUUUUEEEEEEEEEEE
It sounds like someone with a serious neurological disability being asked what a sheep sounds like.
Youtube really likes to recommend these to everyone in waves don't they. Whenever they pop up for me there's bound to be a thread on /k/ about dinosaurs with videos like this in it.
the thing my dino de-extinction bros don't seem to understand is that the little ones are gonna behave exactly like geese, once we have enough aDNA and trial&error to bring them back. lil shits
>make the ones small enough to enter our cars and houses smart on top of being the vicious cunts they are
are you auditioning for the role of the fucking retard scientist in the movie who does the thing that the whole audience knows is a stunningly bad idea? >we thought if we made them smart, they'd choose not to be evil!
What's next - "I heard a suHispanicious noise, let's split up"?
the stunningly bad idea is de-extinction in the first place. (whereas uplift is just a necessity, first for humans and TBD for select species after that.) i'm not involved in this stuff, i just know some people who work with church et al, on shit like the mammoth thing. i'm much more concerned with preservation of current biodiversity. but to voice this in the current zeitgeist would be to play useful idiot to groups that don't care about either pursuit.
as things stand, seems like the mammoth project is inevitable but everything else hangs in the balance of their results.
the pop culture meme that scientists don't think about the ethics or extended consequences of their work is basically just a lazy writing device, and an excuse for professional-managerial do-nothings to be employed by research institutions. bioethicists are uniformly terrible people.
Ideally i'd still have my old 7mm rem mag. But since I don't I am pretty confident I could kill that thing with my FAL. Or just close the door and ignore it.
>small colony of dinosaurs discovered innawoods >they look like a small T-Rex >only one is seen "by accident" at first >it bolts the second it sees a human >drone follows it to a heavily forested valley >to a pack of about 8-10 >scientists try to get close enough to see them >every time the scientists get within 500 yards they leave quickly and quietly without being seen by the team >turns out a theropod species survived chixulub >survived the ice age >and in that time learned to fear only one other predator in much the same way as great whites fear orcas
Anything with the right load. Black magic magnums will kill anything in North America. They will kill a rhino, hippo, or elephant too, but might not stop a charge. They should penetrate the skull but I’m not as confident against a rhino or hippo compared to a rifle with solids.
>scream at it to not trample on my lawn's minefield >dumb retarded dino can't understand >is blown up >I have to replace the mines because of some overgrown retard >even in victory I still face defeat.
>Any kind of dinosaur movie >Dinosaur sees the human >Makes a big angry roar before chasing after them, a behavior that literally no predator on Earth does if it's not trying to simple scare away another predator.
I wish we got more dinosaur movies where the dinosaurs were treated more like actual animals instead of movie monsters.
one thing i wonder about: how do you factor their stupefyingly primitive dino brains into expectations about animal behavior? does a predator with a super tiny, super primitive brain ever even stop to think? i mean, what's the evolutionary advantage of a t-rex that tries to resolve decisions in a way that would be familiar to us from watching apex predators stalk prey?
t-rex is probably a good enough example. it's hard to square their brains with their morphology. on one hand, you can't use their offensive tools without enough cognition to understand their potential. but having that amount of cognitive capacity, plus the skills to stalk prey etc., with absurdly tiny brains would imply functional efficiency far beyond the brains of many mammals. and that seems clearly all kinds of wrong.
but if their brains were nothing special, where does that leave them? all i can think of are some big flightless birds and fish, where most actions are more or less proximity-based reflexes, behaviorally hardcoded on an involuntary level.
>their stupefyingly primitive dino brains
Many dinosaurs most likely had pretty advanced brains, most paleontologists think something like a Tyrannosaur would be as smart or smarter than a dog. If they are anything like their avian descendants, their brains are significantly more dense than ours.
>their stupefyingly primitive dino brains
Many dinosaurs most likely had pretty advanced brains, most paleontologists think something like a Tyrannosaur would be as smart or smarter than a dog. If they are anything like their avian descendants, their brains are significantly more dense than ours.
any links? no real idea how you reason about the connectome of dino brains. last thing i saw was that dogshit paper claiming primate-like neuron composition.
the point of the post was that our expectations about land predator behavior are shaped by mammals, which predominate in the era we can directly observe, with greater brain volume and 66M+ years of further development than whatever a predator like t rex might have been working with, at lower body mass to boot.
you replied mentioning a non-predatory, non-mammalian, non-descendant of the non-avian dinos that snuffed it in the K–T. crows also have a remarkable encephalization quotient, on par with some primates. so i don't see how they're useful at all to think about when considering how a species like t rex might have solved the grey floor problem
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The point of my post is trying to deduce brain power from mammals, which dinosaurs were not, in an era we really know nothing about, is silly. You can make assumptions that are likely, but it’s not absurd that their brain makeup is different than mammals >but 65M years of evolution
It’s not always the smartest or strongest it’s the most adaptable to change
Where I live, a tyrannosaurus is not going to survive the weather and urban environment. Even if I would be in the countryside house, dino's going to catch a cold and die.
Anyway, 12 gauge is the king.
.22 derringer in one hand; burning laser pointer in the other >lase dino eyes >first bullet shot through the nostril and into the brain >second bullet shot through the eye and into the brain
Pft, nothing personal, dino.
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BIG DINO SO CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN I PET?????
CAN I RIDE??
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Didn't t-rex have hollow bones? Also 5.56 can still kill elephants and they have strong muscle fiber so dinos wouldn't be that hard to kill
> hollow bones
It doesn't matter, modern guns are OP.
>b-b-but elephants
anon a t-rex would pick up an elephant with its jaws and split it clean apart with 1 chew
I don't think it would pick one up, but a single bite from the jaws and it would be over. Elephants would be perfect prey for a Tyrannosaur.
Ordinarily your perfect prey isn't something that would shatter your bones instantly of it hit you, while being able to pivot faster than you.
Tyrannosaurus killed and ate shit as big or bigger than elephants all the time.
First, no he didn't. There's zero evidence Rexes predated on Triceratops.
Second, the elephant can turn faster.
Lions wouldn't eat wildebeest if they could out-turn them and shatter every bone in their body with a headbutt.
volume of fire m8. shoot the motherfucker enough and it will die. wildlife on our planet is extremely killable even under less than ideal conditions.
No it wouldn't you braindead cum guzzler. KYS now.
How do you know?
Do you have a video of a t-rex trying it and failing?
Do you have video of your mom trying to abord and failing? No? Doesn't mean it didn't happen
Abord doesn't fuggen exibst perkele
flesh is still flesh, tissues are still made of organic matter that follows the laws of physics, and the body also has to follow biological laws.
all Bullets will penetrate dinosaurs, and rifle calibers will penetrate deep enough to cause substantial tissue damage.
At the very least they will bleed out.
Now whether you survive and kill the dinosaur before it kills you is a different story.
>Nothing personal, mammal
>Dies trying to tip fedora because arms too short
5.56 is good for turkeys so basically it kills dinos
Hollow is relative, a tank is hollow, a steel lamp pole is hollow doesn't mean it's easily penetrated or broken when the sides are still an inch thick
Easily penetrated or broken compared to solid, absolutely.
Rifle Bullets have no problem punching through multiple inches of bone.
Unless you're suggesting a tank that had it's crew compartment filled with steel would be EASIER to penetrate, hollow means worse.
It's essentially a big lizard. Even a basic psa AR would probably do the job if you mag dumped it
It's more like a big bird than a lizard, both are easy to kill with modern guns.
Shoot knees full of 22
Don't even need to waste my ammo. Just wait inside until someone takes care of it.
It's still just an animal, not some horror monster.
i guess you can gun it down with a 9mm
>wait inside
>dinosaur doesn't like how your house looks because avian autism
>kicks your house down
i love birbs
A 9/11 bird
These autistic fuckers average 80 years in captivity...
They're just like me
Yeah but they’re also really easy to accidentally kill by using nonstick pans or whatever
Anyway I have a 12 gauge and slugs, should do the trick
>by using nonstick pans or whatever
teflon is poisonous to birds, yes
No way, you're full of shit.
Based. I should get a parrot.
The ones that talk tend to be characters. I heard of one that would mimic a noise it's owner's diabetic monitor made when there was something up with their blood sugar, prompting them to check it to make sure every time.
Or just shit like this
They can also, of course, be taught to say nagger.
don't unless you want a pet that is loud, smart, capable of depression, capable of grudges and has the emotional capacity of a lizard. taking care of them is a full time job pretty much and you always need to be on your toes.
I've got 4. They're a lot of work, messy, and loud so do your research before making that decision
>I should get a parrot.
Don't, they're a lot of work, NEED lots of socializing or they go insane and mutilate themselves, live for decades and absolutely WILL break your heart when they die.
I like how it smacks over the bigger towers, but just calmly dissembles the smaller ones.
>just casually knocks over the one on its own
Yes, imagine a toddler that stays a toddler until 80. That's the brain of these things
I thought it was the brain of a 7 year old, or is that corvids?
Corvids are some of the smartest non-human animals in the world, they figured out how to work vending machines even if they never quite figured out exact change
Corvids can't read, so no, not 7 years old
88% of the human population couldn't read in 1820.
Not because of lack of ability
You can spend the entire lifespan of a raven trying to teach it to read, good luck
They don't read either
When we compare intelligence, we don't really look at speaking, reading and gestures, since those are not binded to intelligence, we look at pattern recognition, problem solving, environment comprehension and stuff like that.
Collies can memorise far more names than a 7 year old child and New Caledonian crows probably can match their problem solving skills, not to talk about short-term memory of chimps which is superior to humans in all fields.
Alright, just gotta learn to speak crow first
>speak crow first
I don’t see what good a rain dance will do but have at it
I love these fuckers, the crest thing on their head that goes up when they're excited really adds to how based they are. I'd never get one with how they live and how much attention they need but I love watching videos of them and stuff.
The weak should fear the strong.
DON'T MESS WITH THE BIG BIRD
Allahu ackbird
> Just wait inside until someone takes care of it
Pussy. That’s a once in a lifetime opportunity. Why would you not take that?
You’re right, heres my chance to clap some dinussy
>once in a lifetime chance to kill a male tyrannosaurus buck extinct for 65 million years.
>the top terrestrial apex predator of all time
>let somebody else kill it
Lol what a pussy
>tyrannosaurus
>top terrestrial apex predator
There is no animal alive on earth that resembles the strength or ferocity of a t-rex.
>Headbutted by elephant
>Legs completely shattered.
This pose looks very bird like. Chickadees and jays will fly right up to me and lower their head like this and look for food
>gets killed, butchered and fried by some niggas
Smaller dinosaurs like Hesperonychus would be more of a threat than Tyrannosaurus because they would be harder to spot and would cause greater damage to livestock.
>Smaller dinosaurs like Hesperonychus would be more of a threat than Tyrannosaurus because they would be harder to spot and would cause greater damage to livestock.
Yeah, also could more easily navigate dense NA forests and built up areas. And just plain there'd be like 100x more of them, apex predators never have very much in the way of numbers.
> Hesperonychus
If there’s like 100 of them, sure. But it’s a 5lb bird with 1” claws. A couple could fuck you up but it’s hard to imagine those being a big threat to humans. A shotgun and pheasant loads would obliterate them. A semi auto .22 would work great also.
Is that supposed to be a mutant or one of those new t-rex visualizations where they think dinos had proto-feathers now?
Anyway, those things seem to have been in the same mass range as African Elephants, like 5-8 tons. Putting aside that the modern world doesn't have enough oxygen in the atmosphere to support their normal metabolism and that I live in the north where it's too cold for them, any round suitable for taking down an elephant should be fine for a rex, but also if we're talking defense vs hunting you could go somewhat lower since it's fine to dump rounds into it at closer range using structures.
So I think I'd be ok, lots of cover here, and 300wm or even 308 should have plenty of penetration at 100yd.
>one of those new t-rex visualizations where they think dinos had proto-feathers now?
Maybe 30 years ago this idea was new
It's technically outdated now because we have skin impressions that show that T-Rex had scales over most of its body. Pic related is the most current interpretation of what it may have looked like.
I was watching that new The Rolling Giant video because I like analog horror. From there I got recommended another analog horror video called San Diego Incident, which happens during the end of The Lost World where the T-Rex is sperging out in San Diego. From there I got recommended a bunch of dinosaur videos with the call videos being a few of them.
Cool. Feathers on a T-Rex always looked wrong.
Did't know it's been refuted.
>Did't know it's been refuted.
It was always a stupid meme; the chinks found a feathered tyrannosaurid from an unusually cold environment and """paleo artists""" went full retard putting feathers on T. Rex, which lived in a sauna. Just as a point of reference, it's estimated that when T. Rex was around the average sea surface temperature was around 35C globally, the poles had a climate comparable to New Zealand and it was warmer at the 45th parallel than it is at the equator today.
>35C
eurofag detected. for real people, that's 95 degrees in American units
>outdated now because we have skin impressions
>now
The publication of scaled skin impressions on crown Tyrannosaurids predates Yutyrranus and the other feathered stem tyrannosauroids by half a decade. Anyone who has even a modestly comprehensive understanding of Tyrannosaur scientific literature knew from the beginning of the feather-rex “debate” that it was a dumb joke. It was a non-controversy anywhere that wasn’t normie space.
I know nothing but I'm deeply interested in this refutation of the feathered T-rex stupidity
Redpill me about these here skin things please anon
Then why I see so many chicken rexs out there?
because for about a decade or so the completely unscientific fad was to add feathers to fucking everything regardless if any evidence actually existed for it or if it even made sense. Paleo artists are dumb.
Daily reminder most animal skull structures look extremely different from their face. Most Dinosaur depiction is just archaeologist merely putting skin around the bone.
So dinosaurs were probably ugly as sin
Along these lines, the way creatures on extreme environments look on earth, like deep sea or cave creatures, I bet there are environments on other planets with low gravity, darkness, weird situations, where the life looks like unimaginable horrors
Only further justification for exterminating any alien life.
We have a good idea about what trex looks like. No feather, at least in adult. Not skin and bone, but the face is generally the same, without the exposed teeth
It's the raptor and its family that have feathers
Is the T-Rex still a corpse eater or has that changed again?
the rough consensus was it operated like a polar bear, being an opportunistic predator that would gladly use its size to scare smaller predators off kills but being fully capable of actively hunting on its own
Seems sensible enough to me.
Many lizard are basically that though. They aren't like us mammals with lots of facial muscles and fat. And an artist making up random shit to put on the face is worse than putting on nothing at all.
Not really. They look quite similar actually
archaeologists don't fuck with dinosaurs you microcephalic tard. archaeology is about ancient human culture and animals related to it
Paleontologists deal with Dinos my guy. Clearly you were not into Dinos as a kid.
Eh I don't think it's too difficult to guess and be close enough
>don my loincloth
>saddle up my Triceratops
>whistle for my pack of loyle Utahraptors
>grab my shield and spear
prehistoric problems require prehistoric solutions
yabba dabba and find doo
Kids these days carry lots of useless stuff. All you need is an atlatl.
i don't think a t-rex is immune to claymores
My house is made from concrete and bricks. I'll be pretty safe here.
how about your roof?
my dick
>evolved too late to hunt dinosaurs
>evolved too early to hunt megacrabs
you arrived just in time to experience whatever social unrest factions will come to exist in this century
>tfw you'll never get to fight a mosquito with a 25 foot wing span
>FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK
>why live?
Hey, at least we got to btfo mammalian megafauna
Would you actually hunt elephant?
I don't see why
They're endangered and we don't need to eat them
>he doesn't know that the megacrabs are his great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandchildren
>retvrn to crab
Leaving the ocean was the greatest mistake ever made.
Thanks to this cunt we have to pay taxes.
Haha I thought the same, fuck that cunt, we could be blissfully unaware in the water
>I could be fucking squidgirls and octussy right now
>But this bastard decided he wants to breathe
Can someone set this to animal I have become and post on wsg?
Why did he do it?
Whales revrned, what's stopping you?
You can go back you know.
If you go back to the most disastrous global extinction event, every current living thing shares a common ancestor of warm/hot water bacteria.
>megacrab female with a time machine
>I'm your great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great grandchild
>megacrab male with a time machine
>?
right in the feelz tho.
if my ar10 and 12 gauge with slugs doesn't cut it i've got real big problems. im planning on using this thread as an excuse to my wife to buy a semi auto 50.
Why would you want to hunt megacrabs? Megacrabs are our friends. Megacrabs are the future. Megacrabs will solve all the problems of humanity, and finally bring about peace as well as the extinction of octopi.
They're starting to experiment with mycelium bricks for building structures, so you might have been born just in time to witness the great fungal jihad
>everyone gets mushroom lung because the bricks were made in some place like kyrgyzstan and are full of spores and it's the black death all over again
We can only hope
>click click click
>hunt megacrabs
EY WHAT CHU SAY WHITE BOY?!
Duh. Any centerfire rifle with soft points or FMJs can kill it. A mag dump from any semi auto should do it safely.
I’d pick my M1 because it would be cool with an AR backup.
Yeah i have a 100k lumen strobe light attached to a crossbow i doubt the lizard would be interested in proceeding with its advances.
I saw how my hens hunt and eat mice and they're like killer robots with lightning fast reflexes. If a t-rex is only half as aggressive as those it would already be terrifying.
IT'S A KING TIGER, RUUUUN!
600 Nitro Express to the head should do the trick! Worked for Roland will work for me.
But you will have damaged the trophy organ and your Great One will just be a mere diamond.
Actually thanks to Van dipshit, it never worked for Roland. He took the buck down with the Swedish penis pump rifle.
I keep a .357 magnum next to my desk (work from home). I don’t keep 200gr soft tip in it though, it’s loaded with 125gr hollow points and I don’t think those would penetrate to vitals.
I’d try my best but would probably die.
Why are there so many dinosaur threads lately? Not that I mind, I'm just wondering if it's the same autist
dinos are based
Fair enough
Simple as
>TYRANNOSAURUS IN F-14s!
>They travel in squadrons
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K e K
Calvin 🙂
Also picrel is literally me
>Calvin 🙂
😉
>for select species after that
do you want killer whales anon? cause that's how you get killer whales
not the orca kind, the Moby Dick kind
>i'm not involved in this stuff
not saying you are
it's a joke, lighten up
>the pop culture meme that scientists don't think about the ethics or extended consequences of their work is basically just a lazy writing device
yes
scientists know it's a bad idea and go ahead with it anyway
>do you want killer whales anon? cause that's how you get killer whales
But orcas are man's best friend on the se-
>not the orca kind, the Moby Dick kind
Oh
it's the One Joke
CUM HISTROAAAAARIA
The Jurassic Park movie was released 30 years ago
>It can't be thirty years ago I was just a wee lad but I remember my parents buying me more dino books what with all the hype and
Oh
Fuck
the algo is suggesting dino gun stuff to everyone in the community again.
trend in anything = google / facebook / apple / MS algo decided to recommend some obscure shit to 2 to 3 billion people over the course of a couple weeks = new "trend"
We all know how easy the average NPC is to manipulate.
speak for yourself, this is the only dino-related post I've seen all year anywhere
I wonder how many 9mm to the kneecap(s) would be required to render it immobile enough to fuck it.
This, anyone can kill a t Rex but how many can say they've fucked a live one
>
HNNGGGG
run it over with a car or open a gas leak on my house and bait it inside to make giant kfc
remember that elephant that took like 93 rounds of small arms fire in hawaii?
i have a 12ga shotgun with a bunch of different rounds, but who's to say i can put out enough firepower before it reaches me?
Most of those were pistol rounds though. If memory serves it went down pretty quick when hit by a .30-30 a few times
also, it's rampage stopped once it got hit a few times, just took a while to die
>thinking guns would work on dinosaurs, especially a FUCKING TYRANNOSAURUS REX!
Unless you have a battalion of Tanks with Armor Piercing rounds. Guns will just piss it off more.
Am I the only one who would protect the dinosaur?
Dinosaurs are based and there are only a few left no need to kill then.
>only few left
Care to elaborate on which dinosaurs are somehow still alive after all these years?
NAYRT but crocodiles
Birds.
Crocodiles are archosaurs, but not dinosaurs.
>Crocodiles are archosaurs, but not dinosaurs
I know, and technically pterosaurs are not dinosaurs
practically speaking though I don't see the difference
Big fuck-off prehistoric lizard is a big fuck-off prehistoric lizard
I mean none of them are very similar to lizards at all evolutionarily or physiologically. The confusion ultimately is just a result of Linnaeus grouping reptiles together based on a handful of characteristics. Also a lot of dinosaurs were small, things like Velociraptor were only slightly larger than a house cat.
>none of them are very similar to lizards at all evolutionarily or physiologically
and I'm saying I don't care lol
proper science aside, to me a big scary scaly archosaur is a big scary scaly archosaur
>Velociraptor
poor Deinonychus got cucked so hard tho
>Lists birds are living dinosaurs, but then claims crocodiles aren't dinosaurs, despite the fact that both birds and crocodiles are archosaurs
Also fun fact, crocodiles are more closely related to birds than lizards.
Yes, I'm aware of this, dinosaurs are a group of archosaurs and birds are a group of dinosaurs, crocodilians are another, separate lineage of archosaurs.
>Crocodiles are dinosaurs
I love crocs even more now
No, crocodiles are a lineage of archosaurs, dinosaurs are a different lineage of archosaurs.
The overall body plan of crocodiles has barely changed for over 80 million years, a few minor changes and size have changed over time but for the most part the overall design of crocodiles was so perfect that they basically didn't need to evolve to stay competitive.
>admits the design is perfect
>still believes in evolution
ngmi (into the Kingdom of Heaven)
Birds are part of the dinosauria clade. Crocodilians are not.
Whats so fucking difficult to understand. Birds are dinosaurs because they descend from them crocodiles do not descend from dinosaurs and in fact predate them so they are not fucking dinosaurs.
Despite the name Dinosaurs are not lizards they are however reptiles (and so are you for that matter)
if birds evolved from crocodiles then why come theres still croc ?
>a feathery beaky harmless chicken is descended from dinosaurs ie big scaly fuckoff lizardlike reptiles
>a crocodile despite also being a big scaly fuckoff lizardlike reptiles are only distantly related to dinosaurs
>crocodiles are actually more similar to said feathery beaky harmless chicken, the most widely eaten animal on the planet, despite the croc being a big scaly fuckoff lizardlike reptile
I hate this timeline.
Feathers or proto-feathers of some form are probably an ancestral trait common to all dinosaurs, since they are also found in Pterosaurs, which branched off from the avian lineage before dinosaurs evolved and there is proof that dinosaurs from many very distantly related groups had feathers, and it's not very likely they evolved multiple times independently.
A little simplified, Tyrannosaurus probably still had feathers, but they probably only covered some parts of the body, or they were very reduced feathers that don't show well on skin impressions. Feathers vs scales isn't necessarily an either-or situation, birds have scales too. We know that most of Tyrannosaurus' recent ancestors (e.g. Guanlong, Sinotyrannus, Yutyrannus) had feathers so it is all-but certain Tyrannosaurus had them in some capacity. It's also possible they had them as juveniles but lost them as adults. It's genuinely one of the evolutionary mysteries of Tyrannosaurs, that there is strong evidence early Tyrannosaurs had coats of feathers, but strong evidence against some of the later Tyrannosaurs having them. May also be some epigenetics going on in the same sense that birds today have the genes to produce teeth, but they're just deactivated.
>Tyrannosaurus' recent ancestors (e.g. Guanlong, Sinotyrannus, Yutyrannus)
These animals are not recent ancestors of Tyrannosaurus rex, and as Tyrannosauroids, instead of Tyrannosaurids, they aren’t even actually as closely related to Tyrannosaurus rex as something like Pierolapithecus is to Human beings. More comparable to how related we are to something like a baboon.
That's fair, but they're still recent enough to show that the existence of protofeathers was present in their evolutionary lineage.
taxonomy do be like that
Nobody tell this guy about fish; it'd break him.
This sent me down a rabbit hole and I learned about tuataras. A fascinating animal
h e h
My house is made from bricks and reinforced concrete and it doesn't fit through any doors or windows so I just go back to playing Heroes 3.
Really doubtful that an adult Tyrannosaur would bother with a human as food. It's a 5-8 ton animal, a 160-240 lb average animal would not be terribly nutritious for it. It might go for you if you walk up to it or are just standing around, but I can't imagine one would expend effort to chase you down or anything
No way that skeleton belongs to an adult T-Rex.
Perspective is making it look smaller than it is, but also there are different morphologies of Tyrannosaurus, some are much more gracile than others, it's not sexual dimorphism though, we don't know what caused it.
the obvious answer is just diversity between geographical or temporal space. different subspecies within the same species, or different species in the same related family, or even distant ancestors from each other
Have we ruled out that an Adult male Rex couldn't possibly be a Rexlet? Or a Twinkosaurus Rex?
> but I can't imagine one would expend effort to chase you down or anything
famous last words
what's the relative weight ratio of a salmon to a bear?
Salmon would average about 1.2% the weight of a bear (10lbs vs 850lbs). A human man would average about 0.9% of a Tyrannosaur's weight (180lbs vs 18,500 lbs). But you're missing a significant part of the equation for the bear, which is that salmon runs are annual, predicable events with massive amounts of salmon confined to a small area where bear can catch them with almost no effort. Bear don't have to chase salmon down.
Salmon swim faster relative to a bear than humans run to a T-rex
Have you never seen the salmon run? The salmon are swimming to the bear, not away from it, and they are jumping out of the water. The bears just have to wait for them.
Bears can also catch salmon in the river
I dunno man I feel like a T-rex could be a pretty successful ambush predator of humans
I think Tyrannosaurs evolved to prey on animals that were as big or even bigger than them and would pay little mind to a skinny little primate.
Most current estimates don’t have full grown Rex’s being much of any faster than a typical human in a sprint, meaning a human isn’t going to be worth the caloric burn and potential failure of a hunt.
Juvenile Rex’s on the other hand are a whole different story, the size difference would make a human a much more worthwhile meal and it’s thought they were much faster than adults
>Ambush predator that shakes the ground when it moves and breathes as loud as an idling tractor.
Bears don’t run to catch salmon. They stand there and grab them as the salmon go by
More importantly, salmon don't shoot back at bears. People do.
>not nutritious
>but slow
>plentiful
>has hunted away most of the other prey
>you try finding a herd of giraffe in a city
>will snack on the old, fat, unwell, children, blissfully unaware etc etc etc
It could literally stroll through a street and eat while it walks
No it couldn’t cause you missed one important point
>extremely dangerous and destructive when in large groups with access to weaponry
We’ve driven entire species of predators to near or total extinction because we found them to be a nuisance much less dangerous, that typically makes for a bad prey item, hooman big brain > size teeth or claws all day every day
missed the points
>Really doubtful that an adult Tyrannosaur would bother with a human as food.
Are you high? Tyrannosaurs had vision on par with a hawk, a sense of smell on par with vultures and most likely topped out at over 20mph for short sprints with the ability turn on a dime. While I don't doubt that one would pick a cow over a human any day of the week, there's no way they'd pass up on a meal as easy as we are. Imagine that you haven't eaten all day and all of a sudden as you open your front door you smell something promising. You round the corner into your dining room and spot a some french fries on the table, which then start to scream and scuttle away at what is for you a fast walking pace. What would you do?
>You get your first visual contact over the with this "overpriced meme" as you're in international airspace over the Pacific
>It's not too impressive, wobbly, odd shape; and you maintain your course because you think that they're not interested in you
>Not the Raptor, you stare at it and the pilot stares right back
>That's when the intercept comes - not from the front, but from the side, the other two Raptors you didn't even know where there
>The Raptor is a pack hunter; she uses sophisticated stealth materials and systems integration and she's out in force today
>As they fly over you they flash this, their primary weapons bay - six AIM-260s
>They don't bother to wave, no, not like Europeans
>They could target your tail, or maybe your engine, or maybe just blow off a wing and watch as you tumble into the ocean, but decide not to
>The point is, you are alive when they humiliate your entire aviation industry
>So, you know, try to show a little respect?
>You round the corner into your dining room and spot a some french fries on the table, which then start to scream and scuttle away at what is for you a fast walking pace. What would you do?
Wonder when I took a few tabs of acid.
5 shots of 8mm should do the trick.
>You round the corner into your dining room and spot a some french fries on the table, which then start to scream and scuttle away at what is for you a fast walking pace. What would you do?
brother if the french fries are crawling I'm sure as fuck not eating them
Housecats (4-5kg) seem perfectly happy to hunt down mice (~40g). And presumably that's what ferals and farmcats do.
>that's what ferals and farmcats do
Can confirm
seen them at it
I've got a porch cat. He showed up in May out of nowhere and lives on my back deck. Cant bring him in,, already have three indoor cats. Helps keeps raccoons and rats out of my yard in the shithole city I live in.
Typical body mass to food weight ratio sits around 100-125. A 13,000 pound Trex would get a day and a half of calories from a single normal weight human male.
You're definitely worth it.
I wonder what is someone's reaction to something supernatural lika a dino, ghost or an alien. Do we just shit ourselves and go into frozen shock because our brain cant process it?
same as anything else, fight or flight with a small minority freezing up. the part of your lizard brain that floods you with adrenaline when shit gets spooky is really deeply hardwired into you and it does not wait for your conscious brain to process things before kicking in
I never heard of a dinosaur that had level III armor scales. I'll turn these overgrown lizards back into fossils ASAP.
Repeated shots of 30.06 to the kneecaps.
Hell, aiming for the kneecaps in general seems like the best option.
Sauropods still exist in the Congo and their existence is being hidden so people don't hunt them to extinction
My house is pretty sturdy, all I'd have to do is not leave it.
Don't even need guns. You can just pluck its feathers, like a chicken.
Front facing predators aren't too scary to me, but sometimes about dinosaurs facing you head on is positively terrifying.
Your primate brain is wired to give your full attention to predatory reptiles.
I don't get why reptiles specifically, lions and tigers front facing are definitely not as scary, but scaly fucks? Terrifying.
Primates have been in an evolutionary arms race against snakes since primates have existed. Fun fact, after hominids gained the ability to throw objects, some snakes evolved the ability to spit venom to counteract it. The first snakes evolved this ability in Africa about the same time that hominids gained the ability to throw rocks at them. Other snakes in Asia independently evolved this ability as well a short time after homo erectus arrived.
Fuck... But I love snakes. Am I a heritage traitor?
No, it just means you give snakes a lot of attention. Other primates will sit and watch snakes for hours too
The other guy is full of shit. There’s no way to know the exact timeline of events for sure. And yes, you are a heritage traitor. No mentally well person likes snakes. Promptly have a nice day.
t. heritage loyalist who hates snakes and snake enjoyers
But milk snakes are so colorful and cute.
>There’s no way to know the exact timeline of events for sure
True, but we can make some educated guesses. The ability to spit venom is pretty useless against animals like zebra that have side facing eyes, but effective against species with forward facing eyes like primates or most predators. The odds of it showing up several times around the time we think hominids arrived would be a massive coincidence.
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abb9303
Based snake enjoyer.
Get slithered on, fag.
Snakes know we won and they're just coping
No way to confirm your theory but I like it. Snakes clearly hold a large part of our collective memory, I mean heck we even blame one for getting us kicked out of the Garden of Eden.
In a way I guess you could dissect that story and make it
>dumb primitive humans
>happy in their ignorance with their simple lives
>snakes start killing dumb humans
>humans forced to get smarter
>learn to throw rocks, etc.
>smarter humans realize they are naked and no longer content with their simple lives
>human suffering begins
heh heh, you said homo
I read a fun article recently about how snake venom might have been one of the key origins of human consciousness that maps appealingly cleanly to a lot of humanity's oldest myths. https://www.vectorsofmind.com/p/the-snake-cult-of-consciousness
Obviously it's 99.7% guesswork and we'll probably never get anything even approaching real evidence once way or another but it's cute how well the guy ties it all together.
>snake venom helped ancient man evolve advanced prefrontal cortexes by hallucinating self-awareness into existence
>proof: snake venom can cause hallucinations and snakes are revered in various religions around the world
This guy is so far up his ass he can probably orally masturbate his prostate
>inb4 aha an ouroboros reference! proof that penises evolved from snakes or whatever
it's anthropology, there is no such thing as proof
and if you'd actually read it you'd have known that it actually has almost nothing to do with physical evolution and is instead offered as a possible, if only 60% serious, explanation to the sapient paradox, or why anatomically modern humans were around for almost 200,000 years before suddenly developing much more complex behaviours and civilization in the last 10-20k
>there is no such thing as proof
I use the word loosely as in that any theory must have some form of reasoning why
>if you'd actually read it
I did
>you'd have known that it actually has almost nothing to do with physical evolution
That is what I alluded to
>only 60% serious
So it's very fanciful bar talk
>why anatomically modern humans were around for almost 200,000 years before suddenly developing much more complex behaviours and civilization in the last 10-20k
Yes, I got that
Still an incredibly retarded proposition
A more serious answer is probably that we don't know quite as much about human anatomy 200 millennia ago as that statement asserts and we are building a lot of theories on theories on theories with so many possible alternatives that it renders the whole house of cards meaningless
Crocs can move surprisingly fast.
They leap surprisingly high too
>a toddler
IIRC even parrots have less developed brains than a 3 year old
>IIRC even parrots have less developed brains than a 3 year old
I said toddler because it's generally around the range of a 2 year old and that's fimly toddler age for me.
>IIRC even parrots have less developed brains than a 3 year old
Border Collies are apparently around the age of 7 in terms of human intelligence.
That little slide he does after building up some momentum is kinda cute
When you say to Tabaqui* "My brother!"
When you call the hyena to meat,
You may cry the Full Truce with Jacala*,
The Belly that runs on four feet!
-Kipling.
>*the jackal
>*the crocodile
that croc would be absolutely gassed after that, unironcally cruel chasing it with a drone like that when they can't hide in water.
I was about to post the same thing. Something about it is way scarier than the Jurassic Park-style look with the big angry eyebrows
>big angry eyebrows
This is how I know dinosaurs are real, I feel strong fear at this shit. My distant ancestors did too
Have some more fun and hear the current scientific interpretation of what a Tyrannosaurus would sound like. It's somewhere between a murder goose and a horror movie soundtrack.
And this one to hear some other species.
>the current scientific interpretation
SOMEBODY'S current scientific interpretation
one is rarely very sure how widely-accepted in the scientific community these things are
Barring alternative takes and depictions, I will continue to use this one. The supporting evidence provided seems as legit as can be expected for creatures that haven't existed for 65 million years and the results are satisfyingly spooky.
Especially the Dryptosaurus. The Dryptosaurus can fuck right off.
>Dryptosaurus
>H-HUUUUUUUUUHHUAAAAAEEEEEEGHHUHUHUUUUEEEEEEEEEEE
It sounds like someone with a serious neurological disability being asked what a sheep sounds like.
lmao seriously
Imagine getting chased by some spergy retard dino bird who gets overly stimulated when hunting
Youtube really likes to recommend these to everyone in waves don't they. Whenever they pop up for me there's bound to be a thread on /k/ about dinosaurs with videos like this in it.
I'm not getting any
The algorithm works in mysterious ways.
What a ridiculous turkey.
biggest I got is 7.5 swiss gp90
do you think it'd work?
Will 8mm Mauser do it? Cause it's the heaviest hitting rifle I have.
I don't think any animal that ever walked on this planet will appreciate rapid fire 8mm to the genitals. You would be fine.
i would mount my bred giga
Wonder why there's trees outside when I live in the desert...
Muh dick
the thing my dino de-extinction bros don't seem to understand is that the little ones are gonna behave exactly like geese, once we have enough aDNA and trial&error to bring them back. lil shits
other way around; geese behave like dinosaurs
>the fucking cunts
maybe once we've gotten the basics down, we can afford to give the little ones better brains so they aren't just complete retard pests
>make the ones small enough to enter our cars and houses smart on top of being the vicious cunts they are
are you auditioning for the role of the fucking retard scientist in the movie who does the thing that the whole audience knows is a stunningly bad idea?
>we thought if we made them smart, they'd choose not to be evil!
What's next - "I heard a suHispanicious noise, let's split up"?
the stunningly bad idea is de-extinction in the first place. (whereas uplift is just a necessity, first for humans and TBD for select species after that.) i'm not involved in this stuff, i just know some people who work with church et al, on shit like the mammoth thing. i'm much more concerned with preservation of current biodiversity. but to voice this in the current zeitgeist would be to play useful idiot to groups that don't care about either pursuit.
as things stand, seems like the mammoth project is inevitable but everything else hangs in the balance of their results.
the pop culture meme that scientists don't think about the ethics or extended consequences of their work is basically just a lazy writing device, and an excuse for professional-managerial do-nothings to be employed by research institutions. bioethicists are uniformly terrible people.
fuckin love geese, mischievous little fuckers
I'd lick it's cock so it doesn't attack me
>Check safe
>.375 H&H
No problem
That's just Kevin. He's a bit self conscious so be nice.
Ideally i'd still have my old 7mm rem mag. But since I don't I am pretty confident I could kill that thing with my FAL. Or just close the door and ignore it.
>small colony of dinosaurs discovered innawoods
>they look like a small T-Rex
>only one is seen "by accident" at first
>it bolts the second it sees a human
>drone follows it to a heavily forested valley
>to a pack of about 8-10
>scientists try to get close enough to see them
>every time the scientists get within 500 yards they leave quickly and quietly without being seen by the team
>turns out a theropod species survived chixulub
>survived the ice age
>and in that time learned to fear only one other predator in much the same way as great whites fear orcas
Are you guys fucking serious? Not a single mention of 45-70? Its the only round that is officially rated to hunt t rex. I am disappointed in you /k/
>not .577 T-rex
>not using a 20mm anzio
NGMI
Or a .950jdj fat mac
What would be the best dinos to make rooster fights rings for?
Roosters
I aint scared of no scalienagger
What's the biggest animal I could down with a slug from a 12 gauge shotgun?
probably a big game elk or moose if you hit it in the right spot.
Anything with the right load. Black magic magnums will kill anything in North America. They will kill a rhino, hippo, or elephant too, but might not stop a charge. They should penetrate the skull but I’m not as confident against a rhino or hippo compared to a rifle with solids.
>thing
That's not very nice, anon. He has a name.
I think either a 30-06 mag dump or a few shots from the M82 should do the trick
I think the PTR91 is more than enough here.
Pity its not one of the tiny raptors, or else I would try to make friends with it.
More importantly, any ideas on what T-Rex steak would taste like after I've downed this behemoth with my AR? Duck?
>meateater
Probably not great. Compare to bear that doesn't get a diet of berries but rather fish and other small animals.
>scream at it to not trample on my lawn's minefield
>dumb retarded dino can't understand
>is blown up
>I have to replace the mines because of some overgrown retard
>even in victory I still face defeat.
I live in a 3 storey house, I simply do not go downstairs.
AR10 in 308 is ideal for dinos
>AR10 in .500 auto-max is ideal for dinos
FTFY
chkd dubs
>not .375 raptor
Ngmi
how many gallons of cum do you guys think he made
I cast nerve gas
22 LR. Just don't miss
>Any kind of dinosaur movie
>Dinosaur sees the human
>Makes a big angry roar before chasing after them, a behavior that literally no predator on Earth does if it's not trying to simple scare away another predator.
I wish we got more dinosaur movies where the dinosaurs were treated more like actual animals instead of movie monsters.
one thing i wonder about: how do you factor their stupefyingly primitive dino brains into expectations about animal behavior? does a predator with a super tiny, super primitive brain ever even stop to think? i mean, what's the evolutionary advantage of a t-rex that tries to resolve decisions in a way that would be familiar to us from watching apex predators stalk prey?
t-rex is probably a good enough example. it's hard to square their brains with their morphology. on one hand, you can't use their offensive tools without enough cognition to understand their potential. but having that amount of cognitive capacity, plus the skills to stalk prey etc., with absurdly tiny brains would imply functional efficiency far beyond the brains of many mammals. and that seems clearly all kinds of wrong.
but if their brains were nothing special, where does that leave them? all i can think of are some big flightless birds and fish, where most actions are more or less proximity-based reflexes, behaviorally hardcoded on an involuntary level.
>their stupefyingly primitive dino brains
Many dinosaurs most likely had pretty advanced brains, most paleontologists think something like a Tyrannosaur would be as smart or smarter than a dog. If they are anything like their avian descendants, their brains are significantly more dense than ours.
Crows have tiny brains yet are incredibly smart. It’s not just size. Size matters if construction is the same.
>corvids
>mammals
any links? no real idea how you reason about the connectome of dino brains. last thing i saw was that dogshit paper claiming primate-like neuron composition.
this one
https://doi.org/10.1002/cne.25453
>dinos
>mammals
the point of the post was that our expectations about land predator behavior are shaped by mammals, which predominate in the era we can directly observe, with greater brain volume and 66M+ years of further development than whatever a predator like t rex might have been working with, at lower body mass to boot.
you replied mentioning a non-predatory, non-mammalian, non-descendant of the non-avian dinos that snuffed it in the K–T. crows also have a remarkable encephalization quotient, on par with some primates. so i don't see how they're useful at all to think about when considering how a species like t rex might have solved the grey floor problem
rawr
The point of my post is trying to deduce brain power from mammals, which dinosaurs were not, in an era we really know nothing about, is silly. You can make assumptions that are likely, but it’s not absurd that their brain makeup is different than mammals
>but 65M years of evolution
It’s not always the smartest or strongest it’s the most adaptable to change
Dont move, he can't see us if we don't move
Yes.
Where I live, a tyrannosaurus is not going to survive the weather and urban environment. Even if I would be in the countryside house, dino's going to catch a cold and die.
Anyway, 12 gauge is the king.
>inherited memories are not real
>looks at this image
I call the cops and make them deal with it
I'll tell them the scary dinosaur was saying nagger while doing the hitler salute
.22 derringer in one hand; burning laser pointer in the other
>lase dino eyes
>first bullet shot through the nostril and into the brain
>second bullet shot through the eye and into the brain
Pft, nothing personal, dino.
O M G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IS
THAT
A
DINO????????????????????????
BIG DINO SO CUTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN I PET?????
CAN I RIDE??
I WANNA BE DINO RIDER!
By myself? questionable. If this thing is outside then all my 2A neighbors see it too and probably started shooting before I knew it was there.
I love my neighborhood.
>Hon. Did you let our t-rex out off leash again?
>You know he just terrorizes the neighbor's pitbulls.
BIG
DINO
SO
AWESOME!!
DINO
BIG!!
DINO
RAWRR!!
DIIIIIIINOOOOO MONSTER!!