Long term preservation

Im sure this thread has been done a trillion times on here, but until theres a sticky or lubegen, im forced to humanely dispatch a Ukraine thread to ask:

How do i safely preserve a gun for long term storage, specifically in adverse conditions?
I have picrel, and i never shoot it, and likely never will. I usually forget i even own it. So i figure it will be of more use to me if i can bury it somewhere, and use it as an up close assassination gun, in the event blue helmets catch me off guard and i have to surrender my guns.
(I know i know, im a BoogLARPer and nothing ever happens)
So, i currently have it soaked in RemOil, and plan on bagging it up soon, but if theres anything i can readily purchase that will prevent rust for even longer, id like to know now before i buy it.

Also, discuss best lubes ITT cuz why not

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You have irony poisoning and need to go outside. I really dont know what about this makes you think its a shitpost.
      You do know this board was originally for talking about weapons, right? Nobody talked about Ukraine since 2014

      your question killed this [...]. the most recent thread with good advice I can recall is this one: https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/60981611

      unless your criteria for "adverse conditions" are quite specific, it will be hard to need something fundamentally different.

      Ill take a look, thank you

      Cosmoline in a watertight container if you're burying it in your backyard.
      Eezox or Renaissance wax if you wanna actually be able to use it without having to bake it in the oven first. Absolute cheapest option for a lot of guns at once would probably be dunking stuff in Mobil 1 and sealing them up in a tote or drum.

      Will look into those, thank you

      Last year I fully worked on a product that absolutly slays rust protection for short and long term. Started with performance evaluation of of Ballistol, CorrosionX, Calcium Sulfonate gease, Eezox, RenWax and CLP. Release should be last week but USPS demaged the parcel, now it might by uploaded in 90min here at 2pm CST
      >https://mokasraifus.com/
      Thats 100% of our US stock we shipped under massiv shipping cost to Moka so the 1st release is for /k/ while the main release will be with a 1month delay but in much larger amounts and under normal export cost (same price, we ate up the uppricing for the /k/box). That spicy product wont cause cancer and doesnt contain solvents that cause headach or hurt animals in the house, Important tbh.
      Its not Cosmoline from back than, its rather similar to the current Cosmoline in military usage. That Cosmoline layer is thin, easy to remove and can be used without removing IMAO

      ?t=645
      Here a very short teaser, god bless him! I realy hope you guys like it, did my best and had a hard time with development 😀

      Very cool Lubeanon. Very tempted to give this a shot, if only to support the “home team” of /k/ommandos
      Would you say this + a ZipLoc bag + a plastic container would be enough? And for how long?
      What about preserving the ammunition without fouling the primers/gunpowder?

      • 1 month ago
        Lube

        You need to start to protect the inside which can be done with Grease like Calcium Sulfonate greae or Gold Guard. For the outside you can use a heave film of GG applied with a nylon or baby toothbrush and than let dry for 2-3 days inside a save before putting it in a ZIP bag. You can put the bag and ammo inside a ammo box and the ammo can be protected by adding a tiny dry bag. That should survive you or till something breakes the ammo box. Gold Guard was made for open or save storage, so its working exactly like cosmoline by providing a non-evaporating film to separate steel from air/humidity while inhibiting corrosion with inhibitors. I even stored steel that got misted with salt spray since last year, no fug given and still going

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Youre a pretty cool guy Lubeanon.
          The autism is greatly appreciated.
          Many thanks and much love from Weimerica
          Saving all this info, and will give this stuff a try.
          I also plan on buying 2 or 3 LEO surp Glocks and doing the same as im doing with this .25, and i think ill order some of your lube soon. Ill use it on the Glocks

          Glad we’re all havin a good time ITT

          • 1 month ago
            Lube

            No problem Sir, IDK why you put guns into long term sleep but I guess its based. Im working on gun cleaners and brass cleaners this year, not that exiting but its involving pretty cool tests and chemistry. So yeah, Im kind of cleaning brass just to discard it back into dirty brass bin,lol.
            When you try Coomoil, use small amounts so its lasting 1-2years. If you keep a home defence gun somewhere the Coomoil is pretty neat because you can ignore relubrication for >6months and protect with GG so its care free

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    your question killed this

    [...]

    . the most recent thread with good advice I can recall is this one: https://desuarchive.org/k/thread/60981611

    unless your criteria for "adverse conditions" are quite specific, it will be hard to need something fundamentally different.

  3. 1 month ago
    Lube

    Give me a second, Im starting the PC

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Cosmoline in a watertight container if you're burying it in your backyard.
    Eezox or Renaissance wax if you wanna actually be able to use it without having to bake it in the oven first. Absolute cheapest option for a lot of guns at once would probably be dunking stuff in Mobil 1 and sealing them up in a tote or drum.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      just use a scanner and a cnc to replace every part in lc200n. you can toss it in saltwater after that and not worry about rust.

  5. 1 month ago
    Lube

    Last year I fully worked on a product that absolutly slays rust protection for short and long term. Started with performance evaluation of of Ballistol, CorrosionX, Calcium Sulfonate gease, Eezox, RenWax and CLP. Release should be last week but USPS demaged the parcel, now it might by uploaded in 90min here at 2pm CST
    >https://mokasraifus.com/
    Thats 100% of our US stock we shipped under massiv shipping cost to Moka so the 1st release is for /k/ while the main release will be with a 1month delay but in much larger amounts and under normal export cost (same price, we ate up the uppricing for the /k/box). That spicy product wont cause cancer and doesnt contain solvents that cause headach or hurt animals in the house, Important tbh.
    Its not Cosmoline from back than, its rather similar to the current Cosmoline in military usage. That Cosmoline layer is thin, easy to remove and can be used without removing IMAO

    ?t=645
    Here a very short teaser, god bless him! I realy hope you guys like it, did my best and had a hard time with development 😀

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >shilling this hard
      Nah homie, ballistol works fine.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        he is a German chemist that demands autistic performance from his chemical concoctions.
        The molecular and atomic interactions MUST proceed like clockwork for as long as possible to protect things.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I just keep all my guns preserved with Ballistol and 3 in 1 put inside some cheap gun sleeves. You sound like you need something a little more substantial. I'd recommend coating it (NOT SOAKING) it in the oil of your choice, putting it in a ridgid waterproof container (even some tupperware would work), and then bagging it and burying it in your place of choice.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Mummify it with grease and wax paper/tape

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    LPS #3 oxygen absorber in mylar bag sealed and placed in rigid container.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Lube vs. Hoppe's in 2030
    https://youtube.com/shorts/M84bfGHUHNo?si=wzQnR0xS_ii_UVle

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I used MMO cause my dad says that's what she was taught by her instructors for storing weapons in the early 80s at the chair force academy. Held up for 4 years for me and the guns I stored in bc barricade had spot rust so I think it should last a while and be easy to clean

    Also you can put it in your car and it smells amazing.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Is that a good idea to use it with something rust blued? I'm pretty sure MMO has a rust remover in it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >my dad says that's what she was taught by her instructors
      Deeb goncern
      >chair force
      Ah.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    thick sticky grease like cosmoline

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Grease and VCI paper you fricking moron.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >So, i currently have it soaked in RemOil, and plan on bagging it up soon
    >vintage plastic grips
    >with that many different god-knows-what chemicals coating it
    christ.

  14. 1 month ago
    ATF

    1. Clean the gun.

    2. Make sure the gun is coated in a thin layer of gun oil of your choosing.

    3. Place gun in zip lock bag with silica gel moisture absorbing packets. press air out of bag and zip. Do this with two or 3 bags. (you want a good thick layer of plastic over the gun so that the edges of the gun do not poke through the plastic in the next step)
    >https://dryndry.com/products/5-gram-aiwa-orange-indicating-packets-choose-size-quantity

    4. Wrap the gun in plastic wrap multiple times. At least 5 or 6 times and be liberal about it.
    >https://uspackagingandwrapping.com/plastic-wrap-w-cutter-box.html

    5. Seal the gun in two or three quart size mylar bags (inside each other) using a flat hair curler to melt the mylar bags shut.
    >https://packfreshusa.com/mylar-bags-quart/

    >https://www.remingtonproducts.com/products/hair-care/hair-care/flat-irons/s33a10-remington-one-flat-iron-and-curler.aspx

    6. repeat these steps for each box of ammo. Be sure to round off the corners of your cardboard ammo boxes by tapping the corners against the table so they won't poke through the plastic wrap.

    7. place it all in pic related, seal it with the included screws (and use a little epoxy around the rim as well), and bury it below the frost line (if applicable to your region). When it comes time to open it you will have to carefully use a handsaw to cut the top off around it's circumference because the lid will never separate (or leak) if you use epoxy as well as the screws. Avoid cutting it straight through so as to not damage the contents.
    >https://mtmcase-gard.com/products/survivor-ammo-can

    These ammo cans are pretty big compared to a .25acp pistol so be sure to go a little overboard on the packaging for the gun. What I have outlined may seem a little excessive, but it won't fail you over the years either.

    I highly advocate that people cache their extra guns as it makes you immune to red flag laws.

    • 1 month ago
      ATF

      The mylar bags, silica packets (if you buy food grade packets), and flat curling iron can be used to seal and store food as well once you are done with your gun project. A quart size mylar bag will hold 4 boxes of mac and cheese or 4 boxes of rice a roni with their respective flavor packets (provided that you dump the boxes into the bag and discard the boxes) and then you can stack the bags of food into a 5 gallon bucket, pop the lid on, and stack the buckets in your basement. For best results use oxygen absorbing packets as well, not just moisture absorbing packets.

      >https://www.futurepkg.com/oxygen-absorbers-300cc

      >https://totalprepare.ca/mylar-bags-101/

      Also, flatten one empty box of each food type you are storing and place the empty box into the 5 gallon bucket with the food bags so that you still have the cooking instructions and nutrition facts (if you care) when you open the bucket. The cooking instructions are just a convenience thing, but the nutrition facts and ingredient list could be useful if one of the people in your potential group has a food allergy or if you try to ration food based on calories.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >So i figure it will be of more use to me if i can bury it somewhere, and use it as an up close assassination gun, in the event blue helmets catch me off guard and i have to surrender my guns.

    Schizopost.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Schizopost.
      Not really, sadly. Red flags laws make weapons caching a necessity now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Red flags laws
        Couple years ago I was in downtown Seattle to witness a friend adopting a child
        > be me
        > waiting for judge, "it's gonna be another 20 or 30 minutes"
        > walk down the hall to kill time
        > notice on a random court room door
        > ERPO
        > in session
        > ERPO is Extreme Risk Prevention Order"
        > frick-it.jpg
        > walk in, sit down
        > every head turns
        > I nod
        > they continue
        > in the court room are a judge, a court reporter, and a city attorney
        > they're machine gunning through the process
        > call out a case, ask is the defendant present?
        > judge rambles a bit about having read the order (which I highly doubt)
        > "seeing no evidence presented blah blah blah"
        > judge issues the ERPO, another citizen just lost their gun rights
        > the amount of disinterest and zero-fricks-given was astounding

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Get an old shitty car that looks sort of normal to leave on your property. Disassemble the engine, remove the pistons and cut the crank off at the end of the first main bearing and right before the last. Obviously remove the oil pickup. The head doesn't matter. fill it with guns, reassemble it, pour as much used or new oil you can fit into the block. RTV the shit out of it and torque all the bolts properly, ugga dugga them if you want if its gonna be years. You can put plastic parts under the valve covers if you want but if someone removes them to check it they're gonna get curious.

    Do the same thing with the gas tank, removing the pump and filling it with oil. Let the car rot away, the block and gas tank will be okay for 40+ years

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      A simpler version of this would be to take the oil pan off the car, replace it with an extra deep "performance" oil pan, lay a small handgun with ammo sealed in a plastic bag into the deeper pan, reinstall the new pan and fill with oil. If you are lucky the deeper pan will have just enough space to fit the handgun and you might even be able to run the engine normally for a short time without the gun bag damaging the engine or the engine damaging the gun. Then simply park the car in a soft field and let it sink into the dirt down to the pan. Lift up the car years later and remove the pan to retrieve the weapon when needed, perfectly preserved in it's bag submerged in engine oil.

      Theoretically the same thing could be done with an extra deep "performance" transmission pan as well.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        you want anon to park a perfectly good car in the middle of nowhere, hope it doesn't get stolen in presumably a long lead up to instability and corruption where he'd need a hidden gun and then retrieve it? Are you fricking moronic?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    cosmoline has continued to exist for a very good reason. just spray it down and bury it.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://archive.org/details/WeaponsCaching

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >long term preservation
    I did something like this back in 2012
    >buy crate of sks
    >strip them of dried up cosmoline
    >heat up cosmoline bath
    >dunk individual parts
    >reassemble once cool
    >put in pvc tubes filled with more cosmoline and chemically close them
    >wrap each tube in vacuum bag
    >put into off brand pelican case
    >bury on property
    I bet some fricker is gonna have a field day whe he finds them in 500 years

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