Lithuania wants 54 new tanks

what do you think they will be getting, Leo 2, Abrams, K2, something else?

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2023/03/15/lithuania-wants-54-new-tanks-in-tweak-to-land-forces-layout/

250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

LifeStraw Water Filter for Hiking and Preparedness

250 Piece Survival Gear First Aid Kit

  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Given that they are heavily partnered with Germany and also would really like a germen brigade permanently based in their country, Leo2.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They will more look at Poland than Germany I guess. Neighbour country with operational army, no need to wait 1 yr till germany would collect one brigade functional vehicles but still with no ammo.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Nope. Because Germanx actuall has factories as opposed to Poland. Poland may have a tank factory in the future. Also, the Lithuanian government actually asked Germany to permanently base a brigade in country.

        >its another irrelevant Baltic shitter thread

        Why do these microstates get talked up so much on /k/ while countries with actual militaries like Australia or South Korea get ignored?

        Because they are one of the focus points of yuro defensive policy.

        I hate that we're "partnered" with germoids so much. It takes FOREVER for them to supply the equipment we order.

        Yet your government keeps buying Boxers and will likely buy L2 aswell.

        Lithuania is twice as big, but in general I really dont understand why baltics are not doing procurements together to have lower costs and better interoperability...

        They absoluteyl should procure together and also pool certain resources. Its the way all of Europe (minus Poland) is going ahead.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      I hate that we're "partnered" with germoids so much. It takes FOREVER for them to supply the equipment we order.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah that's true. I would prefer ukrainian oplot built somewhere in kavarskas tank factory to those slow ass germans... Probably deliveries would be faster and much cheaper too.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        lmao, morons
        t.eesti

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Mongol hyperhorde rebuild?

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I think Leo2 for political reasons. K2 will probably win the trials though if there are any.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      K2 lost the Norwegian trials. It’s a dud

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Norwegian military recommended twice asiatics tank. Government give shit about that and suck tiny kraut wiener as usual. Worst norwegian prime minister Geir Store after elections will get new lucrative job outside Norway, remember my words

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Norwegian military recommended
          One guy who didn't want any tanks in the first place did, the army vastly preferred the Leo bid due to being built around Leos.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Love how you cant even get the name right in your sperging

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They will more look at Poland than Germany I guess. Neighbour country with operational army, no need to wait 1 yr till germany would collect one brigade functional vehicles but still with no ammo.

      Keep dreaming.

      Given the insane German influence in the region, it's gonna be Leopard.
      I mean the Norwegian Army recommended the K2 twice, Koreans keep the initial price despite initial order being reduced from 70 to 50; the delivery could be almost instant... All for nothing. The politicians are in bed with KMW.

      >the Norwegian Army recommended the K2 t
      One guy who didn't want any tanks did, the Norwegian armored forces have been built around Leo's for decades and they have no intention to change.

      I hate that we're "partnered" with germoids so much. It takes FOREVER for them to supply the equipment we order.

      Black person wtf has Lithuania even ordered and what makes you think any other country would deliver fresh vehicles faster?

      • 1 year ago
        T-I-G-E-R-S

        Is that so? Scroll to the bottom
        https://www.tu.no/artikler/forsvaret-anbefalte-koreanske-stridsvogner-likevel-valgte-regjeringen-a-kjope-tyske/528010?key=FmwLXVXl

        >with the exception of price and weight, there is little that separates them.

        >They point to the fact that the Ministry of Defense has stated on several occasions that the choice of supplier will be made on the basis of a broad evaluation of price, performance, operational, logistical and industrial cooperation, as well as security policy assessments.

        Nothing wrong with a purely political decision, let's just stop pretending the Leopard 2 provides any real advantage over the competition. It's not like WarThoonder, bub.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Nothing wrong with a purely political decision, let's just stop pretending the Leopard 2 provides any real advantage over the competition. It's not like WarThoonder, bub.
          it does. It's by far the most widespread MBT in Europe, which makes logistics and interoperability much easier.

          • 1 year ago
            T-I-G-E-R-S

            Idk anon, the readiness of Bundeswehr own Leopards tells different story.
            E.g. the Dutch were denied to buy dozen A6 for Ukraine, because that would strip joint DE-NL battlegroup from only tanks fitting NATO VJTF regime. Correct me if I'm wrong.

            >the Leopard 2 provides any real advantage over the competition
            There are several areas where keeping with the Leo has advantages, especially for a small country like Norway.
            Logistics-wise they get a lot of shared stuff with their new support fleet, which is especially important once you go from 70-80 down to 54, along with aprox 30 leo 2 support vehicles.
            They dont need to establish two seperate systems for STTE and spare parts. And they can keep working with sweden, germany, switzerland, austria etc using their training equipment.
            All of these are "soft factors" that can easily be set aside if a new system is several times more potent, but they come into play when you have two contenders ranked almost equal in performance and only differ in price.

            That's a lot of recovery vehicles.

            Let's hope the "established supply chains and interoperability" aren't the meme the "industrial powerhouse ready to remilitarise" turned out to be:
            https://www.ft.com/content/ec33afcb-0efb-473d-a38e-56a3f7f7c21d?mc_cid=d6bcb4203d&mc_eid=ad640e23d4

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >My board
              Hello Denis

              >shitposts about muh political decision
              >immediately BTFO with basic facts
              >runs and hides while trying to move goalposts
              lmao
              >That's a lot of recovery vehicles.
              >recovery vehicles
              You literally don't even know the wide range of tank-based, particularly leopard-based support vehicles.
              We have literal homosexuals and crossdressers who namegay here and you're still the greatest pussy of them all. You also know frick-all about tanks or warfare, but wanna know what's funny?
              You're still the most knowledgeable polish poster on this board.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >Correct me if I'm wrong.
              you are wrong. Leo 2 is by far the most widespread western MBT in Europe.

              • 1 year ago
                T-I-G-E-R-S

                Never say it isn't. But I find it worrisome there's not enough of
                >the most widespread western MBT in Europe
                to send a hundred or so into Ukrainian aid as soon as SHTF a year ago.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                there are like 3x the number of Abrams compared to the Leo 2 and the US sends even fewer Abrams than Leo 2s are being sent.

              • 1 year ago
                T-I-G-E-R-S

                True, but the Abrams' lacking European supply network & chain of users allowing for fast training and other synergies, that's been just mentioned. And God forbid return to manufacturer.

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >True, but the Abrams' lacking European supply network & chain of users allowing for fast training and other synergies, that's been just mentioned
                Literally none of that is true, you fricking moron.
                How do you think Americans operated their tanks in the middle east?
                What do you think all those bases of America in Europe are for?
                How are you always the least informed person in any tank thread?

              • 1 year ago
                T-I-G-E-R-S

                You might consider changing the script, these reddit tier insults are getting stale.

                >That's a lot of recovery vehicles
                6 ARV's, 6 AEV's, 6 AVLB's and it looks like it will be between 8-12 more. And what happens with the A4 we dont really know

                That makes sense.
                If a charity is out of question, You can sell A4 chassis to RHM :*~~

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >That pic
                I kek every time. Existed to see whatever the Kf51 ends up becoming

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >You might consider changing the script, these reddit tier insults are getting stale.
                >get everything wrong
                >don't understand the American supply system
                >still spend 12+ hours every day on /k/ to talk about warfare
                lmao

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >And God forbid return to manufacturer.
                Rheinmetall and KMW are building a facility in Lithuania for Boxer & PzH 2000 maintenance, I assume that could take care of Leo 2s too

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >countries don't want to give up good tanks for Ukraine
                There's a reason even Poland barely sent any. Contrary to old soviet shit they're actually useful.

              • 1 year ago
                T-I-G-E-R-S

                >Leopard 2 is the best tank available
                >Unless you need to stop horde of gay rußians pillaging the hood
                >Then it isn't available

                Are there any critical parts made exclusively by Swiss subcontractors, we should know about?

              • 1 year ago
                Anonymous

                >Unless you
                >you
                Ukraine isn't you, it's them.
                Keep seething like you always do, subhuman.

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              >That's a lot of recovery vehicles
              6 ARV's, 6 AEV's, 6 AVLB's and it looks like it will be between 8-12 more. And what happens with the A4 we dont really know

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >the Leopard 2 provides any real advantage over the competition
          There are several areas where keeping with the Leo has advantages, especially for a small country like Norway.
          Logistics-wise they get a lot of shared stuff with their new support fleet, which is especially important once you go from 70-80 down to 54, along with aprox 30 leo 2 support vehicles.
          They dont need to establish two seperate systems for STTE and spare parts. And they can keep working with sweden, germany, switzerland, austria etc using their training equipment.
          All of these are "soft factors" that can easily be set aside if a new system is several times more potent, but they come into play when you have two contenders ranked almost equal in performance and only differ in price.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >Is that so?
          Yes.
          >Nothing wrong with a purely political decision, let's just stop pretending the Leopard 2 provides any real advantage over the competition.
          Why do you insist on posting about topics you clearly have no idea about?
          >entire support vehicle fleet based on the Leo
          >entire maintenance apparatus based around the Leo
          >decades of experience with the Leo
          >doctrine based on the Leo
          >nearly all allies use the Leo
          All of that +

          >the Leopard 2 provides any real advantage over the competition
          There are several areas where keeping with the Leo has advantages, especially for a small country like Norway.
          Logistics-wise they get a lot of shared stuff with their new support fleet, which is especially important once you go from 70-80 down to 54, along with aprox 30 leo 2 support vehicles.
          They dont need to establish two seperate systems for STTE and spare parts. And they can keep working with sweden, germany, switzerland, austria etc using their training equipment.
          All of these are "soft factors" that can easily be set aside if a new system is several times more potent, but they come into play when you have two contenders ranked almost equal in performance and only differ in price.

          No matter how much you moronic noguns polacks cope and shit up my board, it still wasn't a "purely political" decision. It was the objectively right decision and your moronic point of
          >hurr durr it doesn't really make a difference in actual use
          Only supports that.
          have a nice day you attention seeking fricktard. Don't namegay if you have nothing to contribute.

          >Black person wtf has Lithuania even ordered
          >barges into discussion knowing jack shit about the subject matter
          Turi būti aštuoniolikos metų, kad galėtum naudotis šia svetaine

          >makes dumb shit up about delivery times while being small, irrelevant and not ordering any real numbers of anything
          Do you think the world revolves around you? Your country has less people than plenty of cities.

          • 1 year ago
            T-I-G-E-R-S

            >My board
            Hello Denis

            • 1 year ago
              Anonymous

              You only started posting here in 2018, have never contributed anything that would make a name on PrepHole useful or meaningful, literally spend every single day on this board begging for the attention of strangers and your compatriots invaded /k/ last year to shit it up even more.
              Poles are on average among the worst posters on /k/ and you're a perfect representation for them.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Black person wtf has Lithuania even ordered
        >barges into discussion knowing jack shit about the subject matter
        Turi būti aštuoniolikos metų, kad galėtum naudotis šia svetaine

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >gets asked a question
          >pretends people have a duty to know about his country
          >refuses to elaborate further
          So it's safe to say you made that shit up?
          Good to know.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >the K2 trial meme appears

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    I know a person who would be happy to provide T55 Obr. 2023 with crews

  4. 1 year ago
    T-I-G-E-R-S

    Given the insane German influence in the region, it's gonna be Leopard.
    I mean the Norwegian Army recommended the K2 twice, Koreans keep the initial price despite initial order being reduced from 70 to 50; the delivery could be almost instant... All for nothing. The politicians are in bed with KMW.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >the delivery could be almost instant
      Those would have been SK versions tho. Actuall K2NO would still be around 2025/26 and onwards

      • 1 year ago
        T-I-G-E-R-S

        A gap filler is a gap filler. In meantime, Leo2A4 could've been donated to Ukraine

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          True

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Lithuania is based.
    I only wish my country (Estonia) would be as serious about building up our forces.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lithuania is twice as big, but in general I really dont understand why baltics are not doing procurements together to have lower costs and better interoperability...

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >procurements together
        we do or in estonias case with finland aswell

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You guys are alright. It's the L*tvians I'm worried about. They keep making moronic procurement decisions

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Suck my balls mate

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >moronic procurement decisions
        This is what just 25% Russian population does to a country...

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >its another irrelevant Baltic shitter thread

    Why do these microstates get talked up so much on /k/ while countries with actual militaries like Australia or South Korea get ignored?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Baltics are majority conscripts, yet /k/ likes to wank them off as if they were superior to much more powerful countries like Finland and Poland

      These fricks can field at most three brigades of troops, use hand me downs like Galils and CVRTs from the Bongs yet they are delusional enough to larp and believe they are among the most powerful countries in the world

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Baltics are majority conscripts, yet /k/ likes to wank them off as if they were superior to much more powerful countries like Finland and Poland

      These fricks can field at most three brigades of troops, use hand me downs like Galils and CVRTs from the Bongs yet they are delusional enough to larp and believe they are among the most powerful countries in the world

      because zisters, they are the next warzone after ukraine ends in whatever way and Belarus gets officially occupied. Also nothing wrong with a reservist based army using conscription to train said reserves while maintaining a professional core that will form the nervous system of the mobilized army. Very cost efficient while tying the entire society into the military shell. Something pure mercenary armies like western ones fail at and thus right now are having recruitment problems. While majority of investment money goes into personal costs like salaries for private grunts.

      Finns use it very successfully and it is only the broken africa level russhitia that is giving it a bad name now.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        I forget, was that a t-72 the BTR-4 took out? I haven't gotten into that War Thunder bracket yet to visually ID...

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          One took out a BMP-2 as well.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >they are the next warzone after ukraine ends in whatever way

        Do you really think people will start believing this bullshit only because you keep repeating it every day?

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >posting bunker troony leftist memes on /k/
    Poles are something else.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    not a fan of jannies

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      He was probably the guy who started spamming blacked porn when he was BTFO so for this brief instance I support them.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        No, that was me you moron

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    They should get a neo-T-64 with 120mm gun and bustle-mounted autoloader.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >neo T-64
      That sounds sexy.

  12. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Knowing our doctrine perfect one would be Merkava (due capability to carry troops in the back and its a light tank) or a K2 (light tanks also maintainace hub right next door no need to send to Germans or Americans when some serious shit breaks) when we get the tests from the Poles

Leave a Reply to Anonymous Cancel reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *