>literal who tier AR assembler company. >Bullpup 7.62x51 reveal

>literal who tier AR assembler company
>Bullpup 7.62x51 reveal

My guess is hype from NGSW program got these retards. Could it be any gud?

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Based off the PrepHole seethe from Sig winning they should have plenty of orders. Too bad PrepHole is full of a bunch of poor morons so it will fail spectacularly.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Too bad PrepHole is full of a bunch of poor morons
      including yourself

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Black Rain Ordinance
    >all employees are white

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >all employees white
      Good luck getting a DOD contract

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        What DoD contracts are worth its weight anymore, it's all DoS now.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      One of them looks like a Mexican.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    that's quite a long lop

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like the put an adjustable stock on it. Consoomers hate bullpups because then they can't have muh adjustable stocks but they're useless because bullpup LOP is already long enough. I was a VHS but will be immediately removing and modifying the butt to be shorter, I'd do the same with this if it's not short enough with the stock fully collapsed.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like the put an adjustable stock on it. Consoomers hate bullpups because then they can't have muh adjustable stocks but they're useless because bullpup LOP is already long enough. I was a VHS but will be immediately removing and modifying the butt to be shorter, I'd do the same with this if it's not short enough with the stock fully collapsed.

      I shoot almost exclusively "bladed" or whatever it's called (not the crazy highpower/USMC/etc stance, maybe more kinda like a modified "Weaver" stance almost maybe/perhaps?) and like running AR stocks at full extension, so maybe this would be decent for people that shoot like that?
      Fuck me if I put plates or something on though.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Also might just be a lanklet, not sure.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I'm a 6'2" lanket but shoot ARs with the stock fully collapsed or on the first setting back if it's a short buffer. You should also just shoot in a comfortable fighting stance. Trainings I've gone to dont focus on any particular stance anymore, just so long as it's stable. They now teach what's called a "tactical stance" and tell you just to take a stable fighting stance, and they'll fix it if it doesn't seem stable enough. If a trainwreck comes through that just has a really shitty fighting stance they'll teach them isoceles or weaver, idr.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I absolutely despise long stocks, which is strange because I have long spider arms. I like them to be tucked in close though. It may be a bias because my first guns were AKs, and with the downward angle you can't have a longer stock. The spot where your face goes ends up putting your face too low for your eyes to be in line with the sights. I could just get a straight stock if I wanted a longer one but the shorter ones are comfy to me now.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          My first 'k had (still has actually) a NATO-length stock before, and growing up, a lot of my family's rifles have those weird-ass Monte Carlo stocks with huge LOP's and stuff, so I think it's just force of habit for me to shoot like everything's a musket.
          I think one of the reasons I don't like the short "USW"-type stocked pistols, or bullpups in general is because I feel uncomfortably/unnaturally "cramped" when shouldering them, almost like you HAVE to square up, which I just don't shoot like normally.
          While other people said the Hellion's (extended) LOP is too damn long, I'm actually interested in trying it out to see if it changes my opinions on shitpups any.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I like the look of it but I'm gonna have to see some reviews of its accuracy, reliability, and trigger pull

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Details, links, videos? It could be good, I've been waiting for someone to make a bullpup AR10 that doesn't have retarded controls like the M17S.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >bullpup
    It's shit. I can't wait for this shit trend to finally die out.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Please go back to /v/

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I guarantee i have more range time and military experience than any of you tacticool memepup worshipping retards. There are very obvious reasons why rifles were designed the way they were, and why no serious military uses bullpup rifles.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >range time and military experience
          This sounds so USMC 1998-1999. have SWAT experience and have had to drive to emergency calls with a rifle pointed out my windshield. Bullpups are immensely valuable when clearing buildings (especially small tweaker houses or apartments) or otherwise in tight confined spaces. We chose to use 5.56, we need to keep those barrel lengths relatively long. I've also been continuously shot at while we full blown dumped on a guy hiding in a steel container and none of our fucking rounds went through, likely due to our cucked 10" barrels. Our armory bought some AUGs at one point for testing but never adopted them, those retards. My buddy's leg has a hole in it because of this AR fanboyism bullshit.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            When you're clearing buildings why not use an SMG or PDW? The MP-5 is the gold standard, but some use the P90 (body armor penetration and a 50 round mag are decent advantages) or the MP7.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              not him but I imagine the armorers, much like the army, would rather just have m4s for days rather than faff about with SMGs and PDWs that likely cost 2 or 3x as much

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >When you're clearing buildings why not use an SMG or PDW?
              Stopping power. Seriously.

              Also, the MP5 is crap. Source: I've shot one.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >When you're clearing buildings why not use an SMG or PDW?
              Stopping power. Seriously.

              Also, the MP5 is crap. Source: I've shot one.

              >When you're clearing buildings why not use an SMG or PDW?
              Because they have perfectly fine Mk18's and anon is lying/coping/etc.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              We actually just use handguns. SWAT uses rifles because that's what SWAT means. They also use far different tactics than a small clearing team (2-4 man but usually closer to 2) use. They're set up to be more like an unstoppable train that shoots an immense amount of firepower if it meets a threat. We still have to protect ourselves without shields and heavy armor, so our tactics are done much more safe, slow, and methodical. Handguns are hands down the best weapon for indoors tactics. It would take paragraphs to elaborate on SWAT tactics and indoor handgun tactics, but you can do this for yourself and see what I mean.

              Take a rifle and pretend a threat is standing at a 90° angle outside your bedroom doorway, he's about a hallway distance away. Do a lean and look, that means your rifle is shouldered ready to go on target to fire, and you're going to lean such that only the side/top corner of your head and the end of your barrel can be seen from the other side. The suspect isn't going to be able to shoot that, majority of the time even if they're waiting for you to pop out, they don't see the corner of your head before you see them, giving you time to shoot if you determine a threat. You'll find it's impossible to do with some rifles, you have to step out and expose half your body, then raise the rifle. You're behind on reaction time if he's already trained on the doorway waiting to fire, you lose that one. SBRs make it kind of possible but not really, you still have to step out in most confined spaces.

              Field too long, but you'll learn something highly useful I promise.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Now do the lean and look with a handgun. Pull it closer to your face if you need to. You'll see my point immediately, you can take better cover and see your target oftentimes before he sees you, meaning you shoot first, you live. You can see how good this lean and look thing works if you have a corner that's near a mirror, imagine trying to shoot that small of a target while it's blasting rounds back at you. That's why I'd switch to a handgun if going into a structure in most cases. You have less harder hitting of a round but you can utilize safer tactics that will be more likely to result in you living. Unless you're going up against known hard targets like a SWAT team would be, don't bother with rifles for indoor use. It's indeed overkill and you're forced to use worse tactics that could get you killed easier.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Unless your doorway is a box, you can back off from the frame, because unless you're a John Wick/Central Axis Relock stan, anything short of a pistol really isn't going to enable you to stand facing a door and peek just enough while getting a proper grip/stance on a shoulderable firearm (stocked pistols like the USW don't count), especially if kitted up.
                >t. household CQB larper
                Also, going DOWN stairs into a basement is fucking terrifying, but I guess at least SWAT could, in theory (dunno about practice too much, etc.), throw a flash or send a bot or something.
                I usually end up doing this weird tilted-crab-walk thing to try and see most of the basement from around the corner of the landing, but I'd probably be shot immediately lmaooo

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >you can back off from the frame
                You can't lmao, you didn't try it! If you back off the frame you run into the wall when trying to look out. You can pie to some degree with a rifle, but you can't peek into a deep corner (that 90° area) that you can't possibly see by pieing. You can peek your head out without being presented, and risk getting a corner of your head shot off while not being in a position to fire back. Or you can come out muzzle first and he sees your muzzle for a second and a half before you even know he's there, he's shooting at you before you're even presented. The best way to put yourself ahead in the gunfight is to present how I told you, how every agency and tactical training school will teach you. That's THE best way to put yourself ahead in reaction time, which is the secret to winning a gunfight without getting holes in you. Another secret is staying behind cover/concealment, any method of getting out of a single doorway and on target with a rifle requires you to expose nearly half your body to a potential shooter, and he'll see you seconds before you see him, and can react to get up on target and fire.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Unless it's another blind corner past that or you're fighting a child, no average-sized person can make themselves small enough to hide into a deep corner, OR, we're talking extended distances not applicable to an average household, as I was talking about.
                If I open my bedroom door right now and take one step right, I can see the hinges on the closet in the hallway, the moulding separating it and my cousin's bedroom door.
                Straight ahead is a wall with the bathroom door to the right in total view.
                The kitchen has a fridge you can see the back of from the hallway.
                Do you have a picture of what you mean? I find it hard to believe standing sideways into a door frame and trying to tilt just your head and arms (no shoulder) without getting immediately domed is ALWAYS the best approach or whatever and frankly just really strange-sounding.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Lolnotraining. I have a whole ass lamp in the corner of my bedroom and there's no way of seeing it without partially entering the room. Did you try entering a room as well or just exiting?

                The end of my hallways dumps out into an open living room. If the threat is standing in the living room along the edge of the hallway wall, partially covering himself, and I just flop out of the room all bad tactics-like he's going to have plenty of time to shoot me before I register what's 3 bedrooms away at the end of the living room. A relatively short 3 bedroom hallway, I can't see enough from inside the room to see what's at the end of it. There could be a fatass Samoan standing there taking up the whole end of the hallway and your untrained ass wouldn't know it. Invest in a mirror on a selfie stick to peek out with I guess.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Classes I went to all had you pie as much as you could and any section you couldn't see you might do a peek like you're describing or similar, but in nearly every case, the dude with the football gear on was pretty easy to spot given enough pie-ing space.
                >Exiting/Entering
                I can see almost the entire corner of the living room from my bedroom, and partially into my bedroom from that corner of the living room, if I stand there like a moron trying to peek the left-hand corner to my cousin's room, I'd be shot immediately.
                Depends on the house/layout I guess.
                The most nerve-wracking part of the house is the "T"-shaped end of the hallway where left goes to the front room and right goes to the kitchen, but there's an offset from my door to the entrance to the hallways, so I feel like if I ever had to actually "clear" the house like a moron, I'd at least be able to check some of the living room before moving down the hall and seeing part of the kitchen. The baddie would basically have to compress themselves against either corner and wait for me/know I'm coming for me not to see them unless they're at the door, where I get what you mean, because the hallway's only about as wide as my shoulders are, so I can't really "back up" there, but I have a feeling the drywall wouldn't stop anything anyways plus there's a camera on the door, so hopefully that gives enough of a "chance".

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Unless it's another blind corner past that or you're fighting a child, no average-sized person can make themselves small enough to hide into a deep corner, OR, we're talking extended distances not applicable to an average household, as I was talking about.
                If I open my bedroom door right now and take one step right, I can see the hinges on the closet in the hallway, the moulding separating it and my cousin's bedroom door.
                Straight ahead is a wall with the bathroom door to the right in total view.
                The kitchen has a fridge you can see the back of from the hallway.
                Do you have a picture of what you mean? I find it hard to believe standing sideways into a door frame and trying to tilt just your head and arms (no shoulder) without getting immediately domed is ALWAYS the best approach or whatever and frankly just really strange-sounding.

                I actually got up and tried it again)
                There's the hallway outside my room, if you look forward, there's the door to the upstairs, if you turn left, you can see the front door.
                From the archway between that hallway and the living room (where the door is), you MIGHT be able to hide a tweaker in the far corner (if the couch, cabinet, and chair weren't there), but I really wonder if I just couldn't recognize someone's there if I just took one or two steps back and pied through the archway.
                I'll try it some more tomorrow when my cousin's not home/sleeping.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >because unless you're a John Wick/Central Axis Relock stan
                This is why one handed pistol shooting is superior. Every airsofter knows this.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Now do the lean and look with a handgun. Pull it closer to your face if you need to. You'll see my point immediately, you can take better cover and see your target oftentimes before he sees you, meaning you shoot first, you live. You can see how good this lean and look thing works if you have a corner that's near a mirror, imagine trying to shoot that small of a target while it's blasting rounds back at you. That's why I'd switch to a handgun if going into a structure in most cases. You have less harder hitting of a round but you can utilize safer tactics that will be more likely to result in you living. Unless you're going up against known hard targets like a SWAT team would be, don't bother with rifles for indoor use. It's indeed overkill and you're forced to use worse tactics that could get you killed easier.

                Forgot to address PDWs/PCCs. They have the size of a rifle with the lessened power of a handgun. Their power is about the same as a handgun, but they have the advantage of being smooth shooting and higher capacity for full auto fire. Unless you can utilize that full auto fire, I wouldn't invest in them. Just get good with a handgun, there's more tactics you can utilize with it and it's the same caliber just slightly less velocity than a PCC.

                Part of the reason teams use shorty ARs is because though they're not giving the full power of 5.56, they're still giving more power than a 9mm PCC. Of course you're still losing the full potential of that round, and making lots more noise with a big blinding fireball.

                If you're not limited to certain platforms and calibers like government agencies are, might as well get a rifle caliber that does well out of shorter barrels. AK and VZfags this is where you get the win. Those are the highest performing intermediate cal rifles for confined spaces, unless you go bullpup 5.56 then it's comparable.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >AK/VZfags winning
                >Not a Rattlr rebarreled to .350 Legend/.300 Ham'r/etc.
                >Not a Six8/UCIW
                C'mon now...
                >Bullpups
                Not once.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Classes I went to all had you pie as much as you could and any section you couldn't see you might do a peek like you're describing or similar, but in nearly every case, the dude with the football gear on was pretty easy to spot given enough pie-ing space.
                >Exiting/Entering
                I can see almost the entire corner of the living room from my bedroom, and partially into my bedroom from that corner of the living room, if I stand there like a moron trying to peek the left-hand corner to my cousin's room, I'd be shot immediately.
                Depends on the house/layout I guess.
                The most nerve-wracking part of the house is the "T"-shaped end of the hallway where left goes to the front room and right goes to the kitchen, but there's an offset from my door to the entrance to the hallways, so I feel like if I ever had to actually "clear" the house like a moron, I'd at least be able to check some of the living room before moving down the hall and seeing part of the kitchen. The baddie would basically have to compress themselves against either corner and wait for me/know I'm coming for me not to see them unless they're at the door, where I get what you mean, because the hallway's only about as wide as my shoulders are, so I can't really "back up" there, but I have a feeling the drywall wouldn't stop anything anyways plus there's a camera on the door, so hopefully that gives enough of a "chance".

                Though this is also the part about pistols you mentioned.
                I agree, I'll leave it up to Mr. Smith & Mr. Wesson instead of a shorty AR or something. Besides, I'm not overly worried about armored nogs trying to bust down my door, and if they are A) The fuck did I do and B) I'll hopefully hit them in the non-armored sections
                Being deaf is better than being dead I suppose.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I really like the Commando setup they have on the right or whatever it is.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Black rain Ordinance
    I've finger fucked their AR rifles a few times when they've been in the gun library at Cabelas
    >very flimsy handguards
    Probably for weight saving but feels like it's going to break if you drop it
    >finish comes in a variety of vidya-esque colors and wacky patterns
    >chromoly barrels
    I'm admittedly ignorant on what that really entails even after looking it up but seems like they are neither nitride nor Chrome lined CHF so lolmao
    >receiver feels extremely cheap, likely because of some weight saving bs
    >overpriced to hell for some literal who company
    if anyone has really put one through some abuse please tell me because I was less than impressed.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Oh hey look! It Craig Sawyer! The most fucking annoying grifter in the industry.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    name my band

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The bullpups
      1st album includes songs such as;
      >(She said) It's all about length
      >Don't detonate my chamber
      >Terminal ballistic blues
      >A long long length-of-pull
      Best I got, sorry.

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      > name my band
      Hats & Tats

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Bull and the Puppers

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I will probably purchase this firearm.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Giving me sorta picrel vibes, so I might also purchase a fine Black Rain Ordnance(tm) product from a reputable dealer in my area.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Make the open area between the back of the thumbhole and end of the stock a suppressor storage bay. Kind of like the magpul backpacker stock but a suppressor fits in there. Why hasn't any dumb company thought of this?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          That's where the mag goes IIRC. It went through a few alterations between games if memory serves, but it's pretty "unique" AFAIK and OP's picture might be the closest I can think of atm.

      • 7 days ago
        Anonymous

        What the fuck is that? Vidya gun?

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >literal who tier AR assembler company
    I only know them by name and seeing them very rarely at my LGS, but they must be popular in some segment of the firearms community since they were relevant enough that the chinks produced licensed airsoft guns of their rifles. Perhaps they're popular in 2/3gun? I have no idea.

  13. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    A short vid for those interested

    ?t=1260

    • 7 days ago
      Anonymous

      Someone please tell them to fix that fuck ugly stock before full release. Seems like it could be shortened a few inches more if the stock were flat too.

  14. 7 days ago
    Anonymous

    >7.62 bullpup engineers are Slim and athletic
    >5.56 AR peddler in background, squirrel armed and obese

    Checks out

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