>Liberty ships were a class of cargo ship built in the United States during World War II under the Emergency Shipbuilding Program.

>Liberty ships were a class of cargo ship built in the United States during World War II under the Emergency Shipbuilding Program. Although British in concept,[3] the design was adopted by the United States for its simple, low-cost construction. Mass-produced on an unprecedented scale, the Liberty ship came to symbolize U.S. wartime industrial output.[4]
>The class was developed to meet British orders for transports to replace ships that had been lost. Eighteen American shipyards built 2,710 Liberty ships between 1941 and 1945 (an average of three ships every two days),[5] easily the largest number of ships ever produced to a single design.
What could be a modern day equivalent? Drone ships or cargo ships with container missile systems?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_ship

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Equivalent in which way?
    In amount of ships being produced in a short period of time?
    Under which circumstances anyways?

    Vague question is vague.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In terms of mass production and cost as the Liberty Ships (3 ships built every 2 days)

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        We'd just build the liberty ships with more modern specs and equipment. They were cargo ships primarily, not warships.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        A big part is about the state's willingness and ability to make people actually go back to manual jobs because in those orders of magnitude you're gonna need a shit load of welders etc. welders that don't exist anymore, so unless you're declaring martial law or something similarly drastic it's not gonna happen.
        We have sufficient amounts of ships, there's simply no demand for bulk ships right now.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Have you considered paying a fair middle class wage?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why attrition at American ship yards has yet to be explained. Not mentioned in any DOD or report to congress yet. I do know they are getting massive amounts of money.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >I do know they are getting massive amounts of money
              It's because like every western corporation they are bloated at the administrative and management levels. You'll have 2 to 4 "project managers" or other form of middle management/administrative staff for every 4 to 5 dock workers/tradesmen.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why would I pay John $60/ hr when Thomas is as good and will work for $40/ hr?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >Why would I pay John $60/ hr when Thomas is as good and will work for $40/ hr?

              Because in reality its between John and Cho or Paco and they never do the same work and theres always someone to work for even less with even worse quality and the industry will go for it and make worse and worse products.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Have you considered paying a fair middle class wage?
            what the frick does "fair" mean homosexual?
            God I hate shit-lib terms like "fair", its right up there with "equity"

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whatever the South Koreans and Chinese are building.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There are only 2 left floating. One in Greece and another in San Francisco. Nice.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Tampa has a Victory Ship thay last sailed under it owns power in 2019

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There's actually four left

      John W. Brown, which is based out of Baltimore, Maryland and is still operational
      Jeremiah O'Brien, which is based out of San Francisco, California and still operational
      Arthur M. Huddell, which is based out of Athens, Greece and could be operational (and was in fact the last Liberty ship used in any operational capacity by the US Navy, only retired in 1983) if it hadn't been cannibalized for parts to keep the John W. Brown running
      Albert M. Boe, which was the final Liberty ship ever built (being launched three weeks after Japan's surrender) and is based out of Kodiak, Alaska, unlike the others it was sold for conversion into a fish cannery ship and now serves as the corporate offices of Trident Seafoods.

      Depending on whether or not you consider derelict wrecks to be floating, there's two of those.

      Richmond P. Hobson, which was wrecked in the Bahamas and is still mostly intact.
      James Longstreet, which was damaged in a storm and subsequently converted into a target ship in Cape Cod, regularly being bombed by US Navy Aviation into the 1970s. The superstructure is gone but the hull itself is still intact, albeit riddled with holes and forbidden from diving due to UXO.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Turns out the ships were basically exactly what you would expect from a cheap as shit mass produced rush government contract.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    A cargo container ship. If it came down to it, since we have satellites and beyond-visual-range shit we'd probably just go with that and spend more on the escorts.
    Liberty ships were from a time where porters had to physically load and unload cargo whereas now we have international standard conexes that can offload with a gantry crane onto a truck or train at every port.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Chinese Junk

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Hermaphrodite brig

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >hermaphrodite brig
      Kinky.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >futanari brig

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >"Get the Brig in his ass!"
        >"Captain, don't you mean 'lock his ass in the brig?'"
        >"No, wake Yukiko up. This landlubber's getting hollowed out."

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I want if jaegt and yacht are the same word

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Sliding Gunter
      Ah yes, my nickname in highschool

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Mine was Hermaphrodite Brig

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Chinese RORO

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what are you laughing about?

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The US would not be able to build the liberty ships anymore.
    >not enough workers
    >not enough drydock space
    >not enough raw materials
    >hardly any sub-assembly manufacturers
    >too much corruption

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kek, what is this horeshit?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Our country has gone to shit, therefore others must have too
        sums it up pretty well.
        >The first result on Google I snipped was from some furgay/brony forum
        lel

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Delusional image lmao

          Kek, what is this horeshit?

          The US has been deindustrialized dumb ass. Do you not understand that industry is largely gone because of off-shoring?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not sure if bait, but I'll bite.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              15% of global manufacturing by 4% of global population, better ration then Chyna.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The US still makes many things, but large cargo ship's aren't one of them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I never said that, I was replying to a gay saying USA has deindustrialized. If he said "de-shipbuilding-industrialized", then I'd agree.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              https://i.imgur.com/2nM5yue.png

              15% of global manufacturing by 4% of global population, better ration then Chyna.

              Drive through almost any former industrial city. Almost all of that shit is closed down. There is very little heavy industry left in the US and the manufacturing that does still exist is largely boutique and niche manufacturing that can't be scaled up. The raw material supply is largely foreign as well

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you sounds like a "feels" guy, stfu. I've driven through Texas, heavy industries everywhere, stop been a doomer b***h chugging chink and vatBlack person propaganda?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Were you one of the people crying "racism" when Trump put tariffs on Chyana?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No. Trump b***hed out the most when it mattered on J6 so he is irrelevant. All foreign trade should be heavily tariffed at 80% to 90%

                you sounds like a "feels" guy, stfu. I've driven through Texas, heavy industries everywhere, stop been a doomer b***h chugging chink and vatBlack person propaganda?

                Oh wow you've driven through single parts of one state. Congrats.
                Check out this guys channel for the reality of what is going on in the country.

                https://www.youtube.com/@NickJohnson/videos

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yes i wish we were monumentally poorer and would totally shitcan our economy. Not to mention i hope the best paying jobs we have, aka value add jobs, mostly vanish that would be cool. Just because midwesterners and rust belters can’t compete internationally because they’re fricking losers, imagine not being able to compete and have more valuable skilled that some paneer street shitter who covers himself on cow shit for the holiday.

                We should drop tariffs to zero and let the border flow open so i could hire someone who actually works like a Pedro instead of some inbred.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You sound like a sub-human MBA that thinks collecting more slave tokens than the other slaves makes you a better person. You can't understand that there is more to life than corporate profit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I think Going all in on pure free trade is a race to the bottom and a surefire way to kill your nations native industry. Look at south korea or any other modern industrial prosperous nation they are all in essence protectionist. Look to Latin america to see what believing in free trade does to countries. It makes a country dependent on outside industry and ensures it does not create its own competing industry unless a foreign entity sets up shop there to exploit the cheap labor on the never ending race to the bottom.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Kek, what is this horeshit?

          Delusional image lmao

          [...]
          The US has been deindustrialized dumb ass. Do you not understand that industry is largely gone because of off-shoring?

          https://i.imgur.com/xOhkFQZ.png

          Not sure if bait, but I'll bite.

          First post in this thread, while the United States does have a lot of manufacturing, it is nothing compared to what it used to. Heavy industry is closing left and right. Bethlehem steel works which was the largest steel mill the world has ever seen has been closed for over 2 decades now. The United States used to be able to crap out ships like there was no tomorrow and now it takes years for anything to happen. In the time it takes today's united states to produce a single F-22 or F-35 the united states of 50 years ago could have manufactured 100 F-4 Phantoms. You don't even have to bring up WW2 industrial statistics to compare, even bringing up the 80's shows a massive difference. They still are a technological step ahead than China or Russia but not for long.

          This might just be the opinion of some moronic 22 year old leaf on PrepHole but the United States government needs to get their shit together if they wish to maintain their status as the worlds premier superpower.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the exact same autismo saying the exact same things for the hundredth time

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >everyone that disagrees with me is actually the same person
              Completely schizo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They didn't have that either back then. That's why there was an emergency shipbuilding program.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As I’ve explained many times shipbuilding has been captured by Asian slave labor. It’s actually a combination of mass numbers of peasants and corrupt business-connected governments colluding. Shipping cares about lowest-bidder PERIOD so in.a free-market economic system the Western world generally is destined to lose labor-intensive industries like shipbuilding. Japan hung on to a minority share through government intervention but look at their shit-tier economy as a result of that kind of practice generally — but at least they have a real industry left paying actual wages to non-slaves living in a high-IQ middle class society.

    So either we reign in and start going communist on industry or we just accept the fact that slave labor and corruption rules the industrial world and work within that regime to buy the stuff we want from it. We should stop pretending that there’s a policy or strategy choice we can make to bring back the golden age of Western industrialization.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2022/11/disney-cruise-line-announces-acquisition-of-ship-with-plans-to-visit-new-markets/

      they building 200,000ton cruise ships in Germany, AFAIK as a profit making business, but IIRC some govt guarantee was involved.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Liberty ships were designed and built to be expendable and were constructed using cheap outdated technology. For example, the engines were triple expansion steam engines because that was about the simplest thing that would move the ship and there were plenty of machine shops that could make those. Liberty ships were also known to break in half if the temperature got below a certain point due to cracks easily running through shitty welds.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >known to break in half
      This was fixed with a strip of steel running along the gunwales.
      And the welds were fine, but nobody understood brittle fracture then.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Probably SAFE boats international.
    They make everything from SURCs to defender class which are used by the USCG and a few other navies.
    They aren't huge but they're incredibly cheap and reliable.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Modern day equivalent would be the ESB which is based off cargo ship hulls

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